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thecommander · 27-11-2008 4:58pm

King Mob wrote: »

Dude, have you not read anything in here?

Was just looking for some to admit it though

King Mob · 27-11-2008 5:00pm

thecommander wrote: »

Was just looking for some to admit it though

Some of us point out that fact. It usually just gets ignored.

javaboy · 27-11-2008 5:06pm

thecommander wrote: »

Was just looking for some to admit it though

Won't mean much getting me to admit it!

As RTDH will tell you, I'm the last person to hop aboard the conspiracy train.

I still recognise that this is the conspiracy theories forum. That by definition necessitates a lot more leeway as far as proof goes.

thecommander · 27-11-2008 5:12pm

javaboy wrote: »

I still recognise that this is the conspiracy theories forum. That by definition necessitates a lot more leeway as far as proof goes.

Isn't the point of a having such a forum to discuss the possibilities of proof and evidence, not just coming up with new theories to support other ones.

Or is it just a playground for people to dream up wild ideas and get narky when others dont agree with them?

King Mob · 27-11-2008 5:13pm

javaboy wrote: »

Won't mean much getting me to admit it! As RTDH will tell you, I'm the last person to hop aboard the conspiracy train.

I still recognise that this is the conspiracy theories forum. That by definition necessitates a lot more leeway as far as proof goes.

Still a little logic and reason won't kill anybody.

GhostInTheRuins · 27-11-2008 5:56pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Non Christian stuff even mentions the Verichip as the "Mark of the Beast".

I've been meaning to ask this for a while.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was always under the impression that christians awaited 'rapture' and thought it was a good thing, so by that logic shouldn't you be embracing the verichip if you believe it to be 'the mark of the beast'?

Run_to_da_hills · 27-11-2008 6:17pm

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

I've been meaning to ask this for a while.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I was always under the impression that Christians awaited 'rapture' and thought it was a good thing, so by that logic shouldn't you be embracing the verichip if you believe it to be 'the mark of the beast'?

Some believe in the "Rapture" ie all believers leave the scene before Mr 666 gets elected and controls the earth with the mark of the beast. Others believe they have to live through it and resist the mark. Pre tribulation and post tribulation.

Seat no 666 in the Tower Building that holds the Current EU Parliament at Strasbourg has NEVER been occupied to this day. :eek:

Google the subject.

(Contains some scripture)
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/seat_666.htm

thecommander · 27-11-2008 6:23pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Some believe in the "Rapture" ie all believers leave the scene before Mr 666 arrives on the scene and controls the earth with the mark of the beast. Others believe they have to live through it and resist the mark.

Seat no 666 in the Tower Building that holds the Current EU Parliament at Strasbourg has NEVER been occupied to this day. :eek:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/seat_666.htm

I lived in an apartment block where they skipped apartment 13. it was 11, 12, 12a, 14, 15....

Was there a conspiracy?

Run_to_da_hills · 27-11-2008 6:32pm

thecommander wrote: »

I lived in an apartment block where they skipped apartment 13. it was 11, 12, 12a, 14, 15....

Was there a conspiracy?

They skipped the offending number didn't they,

They could have omitted seat no 666 in the EU Parliament but no they left it vacant as if they are expecting someone to fill it. :eek:

Could be an interesting thread.

oscarBravo · 27-11-2008 6:50pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They could have omitted seat no 666 in the EU Parliament but no they left it vacant as if they are expecting someone to fill it. :eek:

Really? What seat is assigned to Béatrice Patrie in Brussels? And to Sebastien Musumeci in Strasbourg?

Answers on a postcard...

thecommander · 27-11-2008 6:50pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They could have omitted seat no 666 in the EU Parliament but no they left it vacant as if they are expecting someone to fill it. :eek:

Could be an interesting thread.

The architect/designer realised that if he/she removed the seat it would throw off the arrangement of the seating. In cinemas, conferance centres etc the number 7 seat, usually sits in front of 17, and 27 etc. So if you removed one, then you upset the flow.

Or

The EU have decided the devil is going to come back and sit with politicians in public to work out how to implant chips in people.

oscarBravo · 27-11-2008 7:31pm

thecommander wrote: »

The architect/designer realised that if he/she removed the seat it would throw off the arrangement of the seating. In cinemas, conferance centres etc the number 7 seat, usually sits in front of 17, and 27 etc. So if you removed one, then you upset the flow.

Or

The EU have decided the devil is going to come back and sit with politicians in public to work out how to implant chips in people.

...or, the seat isn't actually vacant.

Run_to_da_hills · 27-11-2008 7:52pm

oscarBravo wrote: »

...or, the seat isn't actually vacant.

Perhaps you as a Political Mod could raise the question in the EU politics forum.? "Who is designated to seat number 666 in the Tower Building at Strasbourg?"

Rev Ian Paisley raised the question almost a decade ago and couldn't get a positive answer.

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=666

oscarBravo · 27-11-2008 7:53pm

oscarBravo wrote: »

And to Sebastien Musumeci in Strasbourg?

Sebastien ought to be popular around here. He asked this question in the parliament a while back...

oscarBravo · 27-11-2008 7:55pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Perhaps as a Mod you could raise the question in the EU political forum.? "Who is designated to seat number 666 in the Tower Building at Strasbourg?"

Even Rev Ian Paisley raised the question almost a decade ago and couldn't get a positive answer.

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=666

If you were paying attention, you'll notice that my question was rhetorical, and I actually answered it.

In case that wasn't clear: seat 666 in the European Parliament in Strasbourg is currently assigned to Sebastien Musumeci of Italy. Your claim that it is vacant is, to put it politely, false.

javaboy · 27-11-2008 8:05pm

oscarBravo wrote: »

If you were paying attention, you'll notice that my question was rhetorical, and I actually answered it.

In case that wasn't clear: seat 666 in the European Parliament in Strasbourg is currently assigned to Sebastien Musumeci of Italy. Your claim that it is vacant is, to put it politely, false.

:eek: Sebastien Musumeci is the antichrist! :eek:

Looks like you're wrong on this one RTDH. And besides even if at some stage in the past the seat 666 was unoccupied is it that big of a surprise? When so many hotels around the world don't have a floor 13 because of superstition would it be that big of a shock that nobody wanted seat 666?

It doesn't necessarily mean that the EU is reserving a seat for Satan. They could just all be religious or superstitious.

Now a better question is who sits in seat 616!?! :rolleyes:

Run_to_da_hills · 27-11-2008 8:14pm

javaboy wrote: »

:eek: Sebastien Musumeci is the antichrist! :eek:

Looks like you're wrong on this one RTDH. And besides even if at some stage in the past the seat 666 was unoccupied is it that big of a surprise? When so many hotels around the world don't have a floor 13 because of superstition would it be that big of a shock that nobody wanted seat 666?

It doesn't necessarily mean that the EU is reserving a seat for Satan. They could just all be religious or superstitious.

Now a better question is who sits in seat 616!?! :rolleyes:

Still dosn't answer the question, why is it there if it is not being used? Paisley saw it first hand and raised the question and couldn't get a positive answer.

Unless its reserved for a Pope. :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gdREMz_w9I

GhostInTheRuins · 27-11-2008 8:16pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Still dosn't answer the question, why is it there if it is not being used?

OB has just confirmed that it is being used

oscarBravo · 27-11-2008 8:36pm

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

OB has just confirmed that it is being used

One of these days he's going to surprise me by saying "oh look, I was wrong."

One of these days...

Diogenes · 27-11-2008 8:45pm

oscarBravo wrote: »

One of these days he's going to surprise me by saying "oh look, I was wrong."

One of these days...

Arguing with RtdH is spiritually the closest thing a man can get to appearing in the dead parrot sketch.

javaboy · 27-11-2008 8:58pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Still dosn't answer the question, why is it there if it is not being used? Paisley saw it first hand and raised the question and couldn't get a positive answer.

A couple of points:
It is being used
If it wasn't used in the past it may have been due to superstition. The person that was supposed to sit in it might have refused. Then when someone else was told to sit there they said "I'm not sitting there if he doesn't have to sit there." And so on. So it just ended up vacant for a while. That's my guess on what happened.

I'm sure similar things happened with hotels in the past. They built the hotel with all floors named sequentially including 13 but found that some guests were reluctant to stay on that floor. So they copped on that it makes better business sense not to label one of their floors 13.

Out of interest RTDH if you were elected and your assigned seat was 666, would you sit in it?

Another thing I'm curious on when it comes to these kind of conspiracies is why they would make it so blatantly obvious? Why would they print clues alluding to 666 on credit cards and barcodes and deliberately leave that seat number empty in the EU parliament? It doesn't make sense for them to be so overt about it.

Mahatma coat · 27-11-2008 11:32pm

Diogenes wrote: »

I wasn't calling someone an idiot, I was however suggesting that they had trouble confusing reality with fiction.

And that in NOOOOOOOOO Way implies that you think the person is an Idiot :rolleyes: stop doing it please, stop trying to skirt around the charter

The next time I think you are belittling a poster here you will be Banned

Run_to_da_hills · 27-11-2008 11:48pm

javaboy wrote: »

A couple of points:
It is being used
If it wasn't used in the past it may have been due to superstition. The person that was supposed to sit in it might have refused. Then when someone else was told to sit there they said "I'm not sitting there if he doesn't have to sit there." And so on. So it just ended up vacant for a while. That's my guess on what happened.

There is quite a lot of hits in Google on the subject, The culprit could be sitting in the offending seat for quite a while unknowing to us before Satan enters him to make him into an evil dictator. :eek:

Hitler was in power from 1933 to 1939, It took several years before he showed his evil colours across Europe.

javaboy wrote: »

I'm sure similar things happened with hotels in the past. They built the hotel with all floors named sequentially including 13 but found that some guests
were reluctant to stay on that floor. So they copped on that it makes better business sense not to label one of their floors 13.
:

My Brothers birthday falls on the 13th, he hated it as a kid.
Had 666 at the end of an 087 for years, it was an easy number to remember.

javaboy wrote: »

Out of interest RTDH if you were elected and your assigned seat was 666, would you sit in it?:

It probably wouldn't bother me to sit there. I am aware of the number 666 and what it represents. I cannot understand why people are so afraid of it. The number is mentioned once in Revelations and it is associated with economics and an evil Satan possessed world dictator.

javaboy wrote: »

Another thing I'm curious on when it comes to these kind of conspiracies is why they would make it so blatantly obvious? Why would they print clues alluding to 666 on credit cards and bar codes and deliberately leave that seat number empty in the EU parliament? It doesn't make sense for them to be so overt about it.

George J. Laurer invented the UPC/EAN bar code in 1973, he denies it having anything to do with revelation when it was developed, My guess is that the code was computer generated. It was almost 7 years after its invention that 666 was discovered in the guide bars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_J._Laurer

Did the guy that developed RFID implantible chip know that the product may eventually develop into the Mark of the Beast?

oscarBravo · 27-11-2008 11:51pm

You forgot to admit that you were wrong about it being vacant.

Run_to_da_hills · 28-11-2008 12:02am

oscarBravo wrote: »

You forgot to admit that you were wrong about it being vacant.

I said that I was only going by google reports that this seat was vacent, I am looking for answers from a reliable source.

meglome · 28-11-2008 12:06am

Mahatma coat wrote: »

And that in NOOOOOOOOO Way implies that you think the person is an Idiot :rolleyes: stop doing it please, stop trying to skirt around the charter

The next time I think you are belittling a poster here you will be Banned

I consider myself a pretty reasonable person but some days I just can't even bring myself to waste the energy replying here as some of the posts are so full of utter rubbish. This is supposed to be the Conspiracy Theories forum but mostly it's seems to be the Fantasy and Paranoia forum.

You don't like Diogenes, that seems obvious but I'll argue for his right to imply to people that they may have some problems with reality, as I honestly think they do as well. What other forum on this entire site would you see so many people with obvious multiple logins allowed to post such fantasy and demand that we believe it, just cause. I mean how many times have I been called a sheeple with my silly need for fact and logic.

javaboy · 28-11-2008 12:06am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I said that I was only going by google reports that this seat was vacent, I am looking for answers from a reliable source.

Actually you stated it as fact:

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Seat no 666 in the Tower Building that holds the Current EU Parliament at Strasbourg has NEVER been occupied to this day. :eek:

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They skipped the offending number didn't they,

They could have omitted seat no 666 in the EU Parliament but no they left it vacant as if they are expecting someone to fill it. :eek:

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Still dosn't answer the question, why is it there if it is not being used?

Run_to_da_hills · 28-11-2008 12:18am

javaboy wrote: »

Actually you stated it as fact:

Rephrased.
According to several websites seat number 666 is still vacant at the EU tower building in Strasbourg.

I couldn't find any answers to tell me that this seat is now occupied.

javaboy · 28-11-2008 12:21am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Rephrased.
According to several websites seat number 666 is still vacant at the EU tower building in Strasbourg.

I couldn't find any answers to tell me that this seat is now occupied.

That'll do me but I think oscarBravo wants his pound of flesh!

Diogenes · 28-11-2008 12:23am

Mahatma coat wrote: »

And that in NOOOOOOOOO Way implies that you think the person is an Idiot :rolleyes: stop doing it please, stop trying to skirt around the charter

The next time I think you are belittling a poster here you will be Banned

RtdH claims seat 666 on the European parliament is being reserved for Anti Christ, despite the fact the seat is being filled by Italian MEP, but RtdH ignores this fact and keeps claiming that seat 666 is being kept warm for satan.

I've never called RthD an idiot but someone who makes a claim, which is exposed as factual inaccurate, but then RtdH without a shred of evidence to support his claim keeps claiming is true, I politely suggested that someone who makes a claim despite the fact that the claims RtdH run contrary to reality.

But hey I'm getting threatening, again with a banning... Keep it up MC

Run_to_da_hills · 28-11-2008 12:27am

Diogenes wrote: »

RtdH claims seat 666 on the European parliament is being reserved for Anti Christ, despite the fact the seat is being filled by Italian MEP,

Do you know this guy personally :eek:

Diogenes · 28-11-2008 12:35am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Do you know this guy personally :eek:

Yeah an Italian MEP who used to be journalist and tables questions about UFOs, the Omen 3 like totally lied to me.

Run_to_da_hills · 28-11-2008 12:38am

Diogenes wrote: »

Yeah an Italian MEP who used to be journalist and tables questions about UFOs, the Omen 3 like totally lied to me.

Dose he wear a pointed fish tail hat with the title "Vicarius Fili Dei" inscribed in it? :P

Mahatma coat · 28-11-2008 12:54am

a quick Google brings up a lot about the seat being Vacant, can you link to somewhere that shows it is occupied as described Oscar?

Diogenes · 28-11-2008 1:20am

Mahatma coat wrote: »

a quick Google brings up a lot about the seat being Vacant, can you link to somewhere that shows it is occupied as described Oscar?

Do you want to look more silly then usual?

Mahatma coat · 28-11-2008 1:26am

care to explain what you mean.

can you answer the question

Diogenes · 28-11-2008 1:39am

Mahatma coat wrote: »

care to explain what you mean.

can you answer the question

Mahatma has demonstrated that he knows this isn't true. are you calling him a liar?

Mahatma coat · 28-11-2008 1:42am

answer the question please

Run_to_da_hills · 28-11-2008 3:36am

oscarBravo wrote: »

If you were paying attention, you'll notice that my question was rhetorical, and I actually answered it.

In case that wasn't clear: seat 666 in the European Parliament in Strasbourg is currently assigned to Sebastien Musumeci of Italy. Your claim that it is vacant is, to put it politely, false.

I checked it up and cannot find any reference to this name or even a connectionn at all with the EU parliment. I do believe that you could be making this up.

I have started a seperate thread on this important matter in the hope of achieving positive results.

javaboy · 28-11-2008 3:48am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I checked it up and cannot find any reference to this name and I do believe that you are making this up.

I have started a seperate thread on this important matter in the hope of getting positive positive answers with links.

If you clicked the link in oscarBravo's first post about the guy you might have seen that he misspelled him in his post. His name is Sebastiano Musumeci and here's his Wikepedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nello_Musumeci

Haven't found a source to tie him to seat 666 yet.

Mahatma coat · 28-11-2008 4:39am

yeah I looked at that, and his official website, dont say what seat he's in tho

WhaLofShi · 28-11-2008 10:02am

javaboy wrote: »

Won't mean much getting me to admit it! As RTDH will tell you, I'm the last person to hop aboard the conspiracy train.

I still recognise that this is the conspiracy theories forum. That by definition necessitates a lot more leeway as far as proof goes.

It looks like someone finally understands what this forum is really all about.

WhaLofShi · 28-11-2008 10:54am

javaboy wrote: »

If you clicked the link in oscarBravo's first post about the guy you might have seen that he misspelled him in his post. His name is Sebastiano Musumeci and here's his Wikepedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nello_Musumeci

Haven't found a source to tie him to seat 666 yet.

Is this oscarBravo's first post regarding this subject? There's no link.

oscarBravo wrote:

Really? What seat is assigned to Béatrice Patrie in Brussels? And to Sebastien Musumeci in Strasbourg?

Answers on a postcard...

As for the Ian Paisley reference; surely when the page was being written, the writer had a list of names and seat numbers in front of him. I'd find it hard to believe that someone of Ian Paisley's stature would allow something untrue to be put on his web site. Having said that, he does go on about the potential for the anti-christ to take the seat later.

javaboy · 28-11-2008 10:57am

WhaLofShi wrote: »

Is this oscarBravo's first post regarding this subject? There's no link.

No he had an earlier post where he named him.

oscarBravo · 28-11-2008 11:27am

I've taken this up on the other thread.

Run_to_da_hills · 18-12-2008 11:48pm

thecommander wrote: »

Quote : You may get away with tampering with your chip for smaller commercial activities like shop purchases and local transit travel but if you wanted to cross a border, make a bank transaction, enter a federal building, travel on a plane you would be caught out as these may require additional finger / retina security scans. The authorities may then have the power to check your implant against a thumb / retina scan at any time.

That isnt fact, its something you made up. Made Up = Fiction

I am not making it up.

Technology released to_day 18th December. Combined Thunbprint / RFID card reader / writer.

FS82 The Futronic FS82 Fingerprint Smart Reader combines USB2.0 Fingerprint Scanner and an RFID smart card reader into one device

It can be used as purely fingerprint scanner with all Futronic's standard software. The smart card reader in FS82 can handle any ISO7816compatible smart card and can also be used as a standalone smart card reader

http://www.contactlessnews.com/2008/12/18/futronic-launches-fingerprint-mifare-card-reader-writer

thecommander · 18-12-2008 11:53pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I am not making it up.

Technology released to_day 18th December. Combined Thunbprint / RFID card reader / writer.

FS82 The Futronic FS82 Fingerprint Smart Reader combines USB2.0 Fingerprint Scanner and an RFID smart card reader into one device

It can be used as purely fingerprint scanner with all Futronic's standard software. The smart card reader in FS82 can handle any ISO7816compatible smart card and can also be used as a standalone smart card reader

http://www.contactlessnews.com/2008/12/18/futronic-launches-fingerprint-mifare-card-reader-writer

Just because it can be done doesn't mean that it will become law to do.

King Mob · 18-12-2008 11:58pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I am not making it up.

Yes you are.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Technology released to_day 18th December. Combined Thunbprint / RFID card reader / writer.

FS82 The Futronic FS82 Fingerprint Smart Reader combines USB2.0 Fingerprint Scanner and an RFID smart card reader into one device

It can be used as purely fingerprint scanner with all Futronic's standard software. The smart card reader in FS82 can handle any ISO7816compatible smart card and can also be used as a standalone smart card reader

http://www.contactlessnews.com/2008/12/18/futronic-launches-fingerprint-mifare-card-reader-writer

You do know thumbprint scanners have been around for ages right?
And that they explicitly say that the fingerprint isn't stored in any database but rather on the card?
Nor is there any indication that this system will be used by anyone other than private companies.
But hey that wouldn't fit into your conspiracy theory would it?

humanji · 19-12-2008 12:10am

thecommander wrote: »

Just because it can be done doesn't mean that it will become law to do.

You obviously haven't been paying attention to this forum. If it's possible or is you can imagine it, then it must happen.

Run_to_da_hills · 19-12-2008 12:29am

Both the Smart Card and the subdermal chip must be verified by biometric identification.

True identification of an individual today consists of a two part system two different ID Systems confirming one another. One system is a biological identifier ( fingerprint, iris scan ) and the other system is an arbitrarily assigned unique number implanted in the right hand or forehead or embedded within a smart card.

A scan across the chipped-hand or chipped-card must match up with one's digital fingerprint already stored in a prearranged database and thus be confirmed. Or else, a scan across the chipped-forehead or chipped-card must match up with one's iris print stored in a database. Together, the two different identification systems must match up in order for verification, authentication or substantiation can be confirmed.

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