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Dreamer of the year (Arcade Edition)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    All you are getting is the cab itself, flat packed, fittings included but, as the azd says, everything electrical is not included, including the controller and the monitor.
    Just as well really...

    edit...
    These are the same cabs that the Gremlin Solutions are selling,
    http://www.gremlinsolutions.co.uk/xarcade.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Wow, so it's just some wood cut in a shape to resemble a cab? What a rip off.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Wow, so it's just some wood cut in a shape to resemble a cab? What a rip off.

    Not even a good looking cab in fairness, ive seen better flatpacks available.


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    o1s1n wrote: »
    Wow, so it's just some wood cut in a shape to resemble a cab? What a rip off.

    Do you think you could build something that's cut and finished to a similar standard, sell it for cheaper and still make enough to cover your materials, manhours and also make a profit on top?

    If you can't then its not really fair to call it a rip-off. If you build one for yourself at the weekend then you're not thinking of the manhour costs and the need to make a profit.

    Not to mention ebay and paypal both rape you with fees so the seller isn't going to be getting anywhere near that price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Do you think you could build something that's cut and finished to a similar standard, sell it for cheaper and still make enough to cover your materials, manhours and also make a profit on top?

    If you can't then its not really fair to call it a rip-off. If you build one for yourself at the weekend then you're not thinking of the manhour costs and the need to make a profit.

    Not to mention ebay and paypal both rape you with fees so the seller isn't going to be getting anywhere near that price.

    You'd build something like this for one of two reasons -

    For the love of it.
    To make a profit.

    If you're building it for the love of it (manhours aside) you can make something far better than that for far less.

    If you're building them to make a profit, that's a completely different story. Just because something takes a lot of man hours to put together does not mean the end product is worth the asking price. I could spend weeks building Brian Cowen's face out of match sticks. Does that mean the end product is worth the man hours I put into it?

    It all comes down to whether or not people want such a product (and are willing to pay accordingly) This item (it's basically a glorified shelf) costs almost 450 euro. For that you could get a real fully functioning arcade machine.

    Maybe the phrase 'waste of money' is more apt than 'rip off'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,885 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    o1s1n wrote: »
    You'd build something like this for one of two reasons -

    For the love of it.
    To make a profit.

    If you're building it for the love of it (manhours aside) you can make something far better than that for far less.

    If you're building them to make a profit, that's a completely different story. Just because something takes a lot of man hours to put together does not mean the end product is worth the asking price. I could spend weeks building Brian Cowen's face out of match sticks. Does that mean the end product is worth the man hours I put into it?

    It all comes down to whether or not people want such a product (and are willing to pay accordingly) This item (it's basically a glorified shelf) costs almost 450 euro. For that you could get a real fully functioning arcade machine.

    Maybe the phrase 'waste of money' is more apt than 'rip off'.

    You're damn right, I though i was the only one looking at and thinking "it's a funking shelf, WTF!".
    And you could definitely pick up some sort of real arcade machine for that kind of money.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I'm surprised someone call Serge in Ikea hasn't made one yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭martineatworld


    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/games/4048420

    The condition of this makes me sad :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/games/4048420

    The condition of this makes me sad :(

    Jesus thats rough :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭CosmicSmash


    "Pristine" Zelda with ripped manual and marked box only 90 euro.

    http://www.adverts.ie/2208102

    Four boxed Pokemon games and a small assortment of other loose gameboy stuff, yours for only 800.:eek:

    http://www.adverts.ie/2208218


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 743 ✭✭✭ahyeahok


    Monkeykube wrote: »
    Four boxed Pokemon games and a small assortment of other loose gameboy stuff, yours for only 800.:eek:

    http://www.adverts.ie/2208218

    Thinly veiled make me an offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭CosmicSmash


    ahyeahok wrote: »
    Thinly veiled make me an offer.

    Maybe so, but give your self a chance of getting an offer by asking even 250 for the lot. Would it even be worth 150?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/games/4048420

    The condition of this makes me sad :(

    Not a bad price though, the monitor, psu and board is worth more than €50 alone and it does say make me an offer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,253 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Not a bad price though, the monitor, psu and board is worth more than €50 alone and it does say make me an offer

    Exactly what I was thinking. If I had the space and a van I'd be all over it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭martineatworld


    Not a bad price though, the monitor, psu and board is worth more than €50 alone and it does say make me an offer
    Yeah this probably isn't the thread for it, it was more the condition than the price I was posting it for...!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    Yeah this probably isn't the thread for it, it was more the condition than the price I was posting it for...!
    Pretty sure he had that up for 300 at first. I remember thinking it was a ridiculous price. Any ideas what that cab was originally?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭martineatworld


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Pretty sure he had that up for 300 at first. I remember thinking it was a ridiculous price. Any ideas what that cab was originally?
    Yup, it was 300 when I posted it. Didn't realise it had changed, and as I'm not too knowledgable about cab pricing I thought the two lads were justifying that original pricetag...!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    yeh i was thinking, its a bargain at 50 if the board and screen etc work.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Would you look at this cowboy, 35 quid for a zelda cart? Good luck with that.

    http://www.adverts.ie/2209455

    :p:p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Would you look at this cowboy, 35 quid for a zelda cart? Good luck with that.

    http://www.adverts.ie/2209455

    :p:p

    I reckon €25 is the price for it, but god forbid I put that price on Adverts with all the "offer 10" crap that goes on.

    As I said in the other thread, prices adjusted for advertsitus where applicable :p I'll drop it down to €30 actually, there's a fair few boxed ones on ebay for good money


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I reckon €25 is the price for it, but god forbid I put that price on Adverts with all the "offer 10" crap that goes on.

    As I said in the other thread, prices adjusted for advertsitus where applicable :pI'll drop it down to €30 actually, there's a fair few boxed ones on ebay for good money

    Jeebus no don't do that I was only joking dude. You have to price things high to counter the inevitable idiotic low bids. I have no clue what those are really worth anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Jeebus no don't do that I was only joking dude. You have to price things high to counter the inevitable idiotic low bids. I have no clue what those are really worth anyway.

    Cart only I'd guess at €20/25, boxed ones more obviously. Not this much more though - http://www.adverts.ie/nintendo/zelda/2208102 :D

    Few boxed ones on Ebay for around the £35/40 mark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    yeah, Majora's mask is one of those games where the box and manual don't seem to add much value (unless in A1 mint condition).
    €20-€25 is about right, so €30 leaves some nice haggling room.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    yeah, Majora's mask is one of those games where the box and manual don't seem to add much value (unless in A1 mint condition).

    Yeah bit weird like that, especially given its a Zelda title :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    $17,900 for a limited edition Pac-Man watch.. nice but damn that's pricey

    Romain-Jerome-Pac-Man-watch-7.jpg

    http://www.ablogtoread.com/romain-jerome-pac-man-watches/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,885 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    $17,900 for a limited edition Pac-Man watch.. nice but damn that's pricey

    Romain-Jerome-Pac-Man-watch-7.jpg

    http://www.ablogtoread.com/romain-jerome-pac-man-watches/

    Nice, very pricey though!
    Chinese knock-off in 3....2....1...GO!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Just commented on the manky Snes, probably get myself a warning but, glob damn it, my natural sense of justice and fair play must have an outlet!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Ciderman, Ciderman, about to get him-self a ban ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭CosmicSmash


    Ciderman, Ciderman, about to get him-self a ban ;)

    It was a fair comment, he was trying to off load that Snes a while ago. I just can understand why there was no takers:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Ciderman, Ciderman, about to get him-self a ban ;)
    Got my post on the ad removed. :(
    I feel just terrible...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭CosmicSmash


    I'm no longer suprised at the amount of bad PS2 games on Adverts. There can be bundles of over fifty games with not one decent one among them. I have a small enough collection of ps2 games myself but I enjoyed them all. I wish I could set a filter on adverts blocking ads that contained the words Fifa, Buzz and 50Cent the game not the coin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭CosmicSmash


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Got my post on the ad removed. :(
    I feel just terrible...

    No ya don't:pac:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    EnterNow wrote: »
    hang on
    "AV Multi Out Very Rare SNES Super Nintendo"?
    Pretty much every snes I've seen has that AV out?
    And you can pick up several snes's with more games on adverts for around half that price? So basically jacked up price for something that's allegedly a rare feature but isnt? Surely that needs reporting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    hang on
    "AV Multi Out Very Rare SNES Super Nintendo"?
    Pretty much every snes I've seen has that AV out?
    And you can pick up several snes's with more games on adverts for around half that price? So basically jacked up price for something that's allegedly a rare feature but isnt? Surely that needs reporting?

    I've yet to see ANY Snes without that port! And as for reporting it? I don't think much action can/would be taken. Caveat Emptor after all :(


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I've yet to see ANY Snes without that port! And as for reporting it? I don't think much action can/would be taken. Caveat Emptor after all :(
    Surely by that logic I could claim that any of the games I'm selling on adverts are super rare and jack up the pri.....er.....heh ..back in a minute!


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    Surely by that logic I could claim that any of the games I'm selling on adverts are super rare and jack up the pri.....er.....heh ..back in a minute!
    I should add that the one game on adverts I have marked as rare ('D' on the PS1) actually is :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    Surely by that logic I could claim that any of the games I'm selling on adverts are super rare and jack up the pri.....er.....heh ..back in a minute!

    Yep, because I would imagine the mods would be asking you to define 'rare'. Label them how you want & charge what you want seems to be the order of the day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    is there much wiggle room on that €25 btw? I was looking at getting it on the Saturn via ebay, but might buy yours for the right price.


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    Dr Bob wrote: »
    hang on
    "AV Multi Out Very Rare SNES Super Nintendo"?
    Pretty much every snes I've seen has that AV out?
    And you can pick up several snes's with more games on adverts for around half that price? So basically jacked up price for something that's allegedly a rare feature but isnt? Surely that needs reporting?

    If its priced too high it won't sell. Who cares?

    Nobody gets ripped off on something that doesnt sell. If the seller wants to waste his time with a daft price then good luck to him.

    So long as they're not constantly bumping the item or interfering with other peoples ads I couldn't give two hoots about it. Winding the seller up just creates more work and hassle for the mods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭MontgomeryClift


    keithgeo wrote: »
    Pretty sure he had that up for 300 at first. I remember thinking it was a ridiculous price. Any ideas what that cab was originally?
    I'd guess it was Arkanoid.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    is there much wiggle room on that €25 btw? I was looking at getting it on the Saturn via ebay, but might buy yours for the right price.
    I'd consider going 20 + postage (or collection)
    Its over at :
    http://www.adverts.ie/playstation/rare-playstation-game-d-warp/2222831
    if you're interested


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    If its priced too high it won't sell. Who cares?

    Nobody gets ripped off on something that doesnt sell. If the seller wants to waste his time with a daft price then good luck to him.

    So long as they're not constantly bumping the item or interfering with other peoples ads I couldn't give two hoots about it. Winding the seller up just creates more work and hassle for the mods.
    you have a point , there is the idea that something is worth exactly what people will pay for it.
    The other side of the coin is that most of the lads here would have a rough idea whats rare and what isnt, and you hate to see someone unwittingly spending way over the odds on something .
    Caveat emptor I guess ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    you have a point , there is the idea that something is worth exactly what people will pay for it.
    The other side of the coin is that most of the lads here would have a rough idea whats rare and what isnt, and you hate to see someone unwittingly spending way over the odds on something .
    Caveat emptor I guess ;)

    Not only that but when people are paying over the odds for stuff like retro games, it fukcs up the real pricing for actual collectors. Anyone remember the boxed PS1's for €35? Yeah, thought so :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,829 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    These over priced games and consoles are giving people the wrong perception of what they are worth. They haven't a clue what their SNES is worth but when they see battered old SNES, yellowed as Steptoe's teeth and not even with all the cables for 150 stingers they get cash in the attic fever and think that theirs is worth more even though that first one will never sell. Pretty much all the fair priced stuff on adverts has dried up because of this.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    These over priced games and consoles are giving people the wrong perception of what they are worth. They haven't a clue what their SNES is worth but when they see battered old SNES, yellowed as Steptoe's teeth and not even with all the cables for 150 stingers they get cash in the attic fever and think that theirs is worth more even though that first one will never sell. Pretty much all the fair priced stuff on adverts has dried up because of this.

    It makes no difference if someone sees an overpriced ad and thinks their SNES is worth 150.

    If something is overpriced it won't sell. The seller will either have to drop the price, or it'll sit there unsold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    If something is overpriced it won't sell

    If only that were true. You see dirt being bought every day for over odds money, & once an item sells for over the odds, it affects what relative items are worth. It all has a knock on affect.

    Your right in that the likes of that filthy rare av port Snes won't sell at that money, but there are many other examples of stuff that has sold over the odds.

    RAGE for example get over the odds, near retail prices for games don't they? In such a case, thats going to affect peoples perception of what those games are actually worth


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