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Embrace the Absurd-Street Portraits of strangers.

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  • #102
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    zootshooter wrote: »
    Thanks for the compliment about my pics, but I don't really see how they don't belong here. They are all street shots of people. Shots of people to me are called portraits, whether they are face on, or just a shot of their back, and also if they dominate the frame or do not. Maybe others would disagree?

    To me a portrait must capture the facial expression of the subject.


  • #103
    pullandbang
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭pullandbang


    zootshooter wrote: »
    Shots of people to me are called portraits, whether they are face on, or just a shot of their back, and also if they dominate the frame or do not. Maybe others would disagree?

    So a shot like this is a portrait?

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    Most of them are face on and they certainly dominate the frame. Don't know about you but I would not call that a portrait.
    In the same way a photo of the back of someone sitting on a bench is not a portrait.
    Nice set of shots you have, but they don't belong in a thread of "Street Portraits"


  • #104
    IamBlip
    Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭IamBlip


    zootshooter wrote: »
    Thanks for the compliment about my pics, but I don't really see how they don't belong here. They are all street shots of people. Shots of people to me are called portraits, whether they are face on, or just a shot of their back, and also if they dominate the frame or do not. Maybe others would disagree?


    I think this thread is more for asking a stranger in the street "can you take their photo". They are more candid than contrived.


  • #105
    zootshooter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭zootshooter


    IamBlip wrote: »
    I think this thread is more for asking a stranger in the street "can you take their photo". They are more candid than contrived.

    What a foolish comment to make. The definition of candid is:

    "relating to or being photography of subjects acting naturally or spontaneously without being posed."

    The moment you ask someone to pose for a photo it is no longer a candid shot. Therefore your statement is utterly nonsensical.

    What exactly is contrived about shooting somebody from behind? Contrived is definied as:

    "having an unnatural or false appearance or quality"

    How exactly are my photos contrived simply because I prefer not to shoot somebody face on?

    I've heard it said that psychoanalysts don't look at their patients in the face because people use their facial expressions to lie. I'm not sure I agree with this, but there are plenty of worthwhile portraits of people out there that don't include their facial expression.

    As for comparing my shots to shots of thousands at a football match, well I think it's pretty obvioius that there is a difference. In my pictures there is one person that is clearly the focus of my shot, unlike the sea of faces that you posted.

    I still think that my photos belong here until somebody convinces me otherwise.


  • #106
    jpb1974
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    The definition of candid is:

    "relating to or being photography of subjects acting naturally or spontaneously without being posed."

    Greetings zootshooter

    Can I just say that in relation to your comment above I'm not sure this is where the problem lies when it comes to the photos you posted.

    Can you dig us up the definition of portrait whilst you're at it and if you hear a noise that might be the penny dropping.

    Cheers


  • #107
    zootshooter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭zootshooter


    jpb1974 wrote: »
    Greetings zootshooter

    Can I just say that in relation to your comment above I'm not sure this is where the problem lies when it comes to the photos you posted.

    Can you dig us up the definition of portrait whilst you're at it and if you hear a noise that might be the penny dropping.

    Cheers

    por·trait/ˈpôrtrət/

    Noun:
    • A painting, drawing, photograph, or engraving of a person.
    • A representation or impression of someone or something in language or on film.
    All's still silent on my end.


  • #108
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    zootshooter wrote: »
    por·trait/ˈpôrtrət/

    Noun:
    • A painting, drawing, photograph, or engraving of a person.
    • A representation or impression of someone or something in language or on film.
    All's still silent on my end.

    Where did that come from?


  • #109
    jpb1974
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    All's still silent on my end.

    I expected as much :D


  • #110
    zootshooter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭zootshooter


    Kenny Logins wrote: »
    Where did that come from?

    Google portrait definition, it's the very first answer you'll get.


  • #111
    zootshooter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭zootshooter


    jpb1974 wrote: »
    I expected as much :D

    I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong, but you really haven't provided much in the way of valuable guidance here.


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  • #112
    jpb1974
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    zootshooter wrote: »
    Google portrait definition, it's the very first answer you'll get.

    OK..

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/portrait

    1. A likeness of a person, especially one showing the face, that is created by a painter or photographer, for example


  • #113
    zootshooter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭zootshooter


    jpb1974 wrote: »
    OK..

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/portrait

    1. A likeness of a person, especially one showing the face, that is created by a painter or photographer, for example

    note the use of the word ESPECIALLY, not EXCLUSIVELY.


  • #114
    OldGoat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,637 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    FFS.
    Can we have some more photographs before people start posting Facepalms and keyboard warrior cartoons.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • #115
    jpb1974
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    note the use of the word ESPECIALLY, not EXCLUSIVELY.

    :) Absolutley...

    But if there's one thing we can agree on it's the fact that the definition of portrait really can be stretched.

    Wikipedia's version would sit a lot more comfortably with me -

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait
    A portrait is a painting, photograph, sculpture, or other artistic representation of a person, in which the face and its expression is predominant.


  • #116
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    zootshooter wrote: »
    Google portrait definition, it's the very first answer you'll get.

    Should I stop there, or carry on reading?


  • #117
    zootshooter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭zootshooter


    jpb1974 wrote: »
    :) Absolutley...

    But if there's one thing we can agree on it's the fact that the definition of portrait really can be stretched.

    Wikipedia's version would sit a lot more comfortably with me -

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrait

    You can cherry pick definitions as much as you like, it still doesn't convince me that my photos don't belong here. Some people seem to believe a portrait must have include the face, others don't. This isn't the most enlightening of arguments really.


  • #118
    zootshooter
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭zootshooter


    Kenny Logins wrote: »
    Should I stop there, or carry on reading?

    Why should I give a toss what you read?


  • #119
    jpb1974
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    You can cherry pick definitions as much as you like, it still doesn't convince me that my photos don't belong here. Some people seem to believe a portrait must have include the face, others don't. This isn't the most enlightening of arguments really.

    :D You're a gas man... fight the power!


  • #120
    the_tractor
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭the_tractor


    OldGoat wrote: »
    FFS.
    Can we have some more photographs before people start posting Facepalms and keyboard warrior cartoons.
    :P

    zootshooter - I think you are maybe getting a little wound up over this.

    There are two threads:
    One for Street protraits, this one.
    One for Candid street photos, the other one.

    All I am saying is that those shots you posted fit better in the candid thread.

    Read the 1st post, and comment #79 of this thread, hopefully that will explain what this thread is about.

    Also reading comment comment #104, it looks like IamBlip was trying to say that your shots are more candid than contrived, not the other way around as you seem to have taken it.

    This thread is more for the 'contrived' shots, when you ask (or not ) to take someones photo, and they are aware that you are taking a photo, and maybe even pose for the photo - i.e. more contrived, not candid.

    Hopefully that clears up any confusion, and please don't feel offended as that is not anyones intent.


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  • #121
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    zootshooter wrote: »
    You can cherry pick definitions as much as you like, it still doesn't convince me that my photos don't belong here. Some people seem to believe a portrait must have include the face, others don't. This isn't the most enlightening of arguments really.

    You seem to be a little confused here, it was you that 'cherry picked' the definition.
    zootshooter wrote: »
    Why should I give a toss what you read?

    Your trolling is just becoming dull now. Shame really, great pics, just in the wrong thread (deliberately?).


  • #122
    EyeBlinks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭EyeBlinks


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  • #123
    jpb1974
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,027 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    It was a field... not a street... but I was on the village street just above the field when they asked me... I didn't ask them -

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  • #124
    EyeBlinks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭EyeBlinks


    jpb1974 wrote: »
    It was a field... not a street...

    Street is much broader than street :p


  • #125
    the_tractor
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭the_tractor


    With Ginger or Cola?

    Tough choices.

    :D

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    Would you like one? by TBSteve, on Flickr


  • #126
    bullpost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭bullpost


    tbh I think everything would be more straightforward if there was a single thread for street.

    Not like there is tons of stuff to moderate.

    the_tractor wrote: »
    :P

    zootshooter - I think you are maybe getting a little wound up over this.

    There are two threads:
    One for Street protraits, this one.
    One for Candid street photos, the other one.

    All I am saying is that those shots you posted fit better in the candid thread.

    Read the 1st post, and comment #79 of this thread, hopefully that will explain what this thread is about.

    Also reading comment comment #104, it looks like IamBlip was trying to say that your shots are more candid than contrived, not the other way around as you seem to have taken it.

    This thread is more for the 'contrived' shots, when you ask (or not ) to take someones photo, and they are aware that you are taking a photo, and maybe even pose for the photo - i.e. more contrived, not candid.

    Hopefully that clears up any confusion, and please don't feel offended as that is not anyones intent.


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  • #127
    EyeBlinks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭EyeBlinks


    bullpost wrote: »
    tbh I think everything would be more straightforward if there was a single thread for street.

    I wouldn't be of that opinion. Chalk and Cheese :cool:


  • #128
    EyeBlinks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭EyeBlinks


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  • #129
    EyeBlinks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭EyeBlinks


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  • #130
    EyeBlinks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭EyeBlinks


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  • #131
    okmqaz42
    Registered Users Posts: 612 ✭✭✭okmqaz42


    A couple of lads on Grafton Street. For me this was a bit of a return to the scene of the crime. This is the same area that I first started to make an effort with street portraits of strangers. I am still enjoying it....

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  • #132
    rvasli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭rvasli


    Just started a new blog for portraits of strangers i meet. Please check it out.
    www.cupofpea.com

    Cheers,
    Rasmus

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  • #133
    xcandyflossx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭xcandyflossx


    First of all, boards is gr8! All this information for free!
    If anyone here could point me in the right direction of becoming a model it would be fantastic ! I cannot believe I didn't sign up to boards.ie before this !!!!
    Any information is a help guise!

    this is copied from another thread because I think I put it in the wrong place :P


  • #134
    pullandbang
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭pullandbang


    xcandyflossx wrote: »
    First of all, boards is gr8! All this information for free!
    If anyone here could point me in the right direction of becoming a model it would be fantastic ! I cannot believe I didn't sign up to boards.ie before this !!!!
    Any information is a help guise!

    this is copied from another thread because I think I put it in the wrong place :P

    Try here http://www.modelmayhem.com/


  • #135
    anto2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭anto2


    I now live in Thailand full time and love to take street shots .I do not ask permission and use a 50-200 lens .I have been verbally abused on two occasions by Westerners for doing so but Thais love to have their photo taken .Some shots from Pattaya above .IMG_4048.JPGIMG_4034.JPGIMG_4074.JPGIMG_4076.JPGIMG_4292.JPGIMG_4267.JPGIMG_4257.JPGIMG_3977.JPG


  • #136
    kelly1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,026 ✭✭✭kelly1


    Here's an old one:

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  • #137
    FlipperThePriest
    Subscribers Posts: 693 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


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  • #138
    angeleyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭angeleyes


    I would ask permission of people for street portraits - ok I might have to throw something into their collection box but I have no problem with that. Love doing street photography in Dublin. So many wonderful characters.

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  • #139
    pixbyjohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    angeleyes wrote: »
    I would ask permission of people for street portraits - ok I might have to throw something into their collection box but I have no problem with that. Love doing street photography in Dublin. So many wonderful characters

    But do you take street type photos of people who don't have a collection box also ?


  • #140
    angeleyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭angeleyes


    pixbyjohn wrote: »
    But do you take street type photos of people who don't have a collection box also ?

    Yeah I do - but I would be more comfortable asking for permission and throwing something into the box.


  • #141
    GoldenTickets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭GoldenTickets


    anto2 wrote: »
    I now live in Thailand full time and love to take street shots .I do not ask permission and use a 50-200 lens .I have been verbally abused on two occasions by Westerners for doing so but Thais love to have their photo taken .Some shots from Pattaya above .

    Could have done without seeing that homeless guys pecker to be honest (sadly there is no vomiting smilie for me to insert here).


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  • #142
    anto2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭anto2


    GoldenTickets wrote: »
    Could have done without seeing that homeless guys pecker to be honest (sadly there is no vomiting smilie for me to insert here).


    I honestly never noticed that .He was a German speaking man who lived rough on the streets of Pattaya for many months .People offered him fresh clothes but he refused them .A German newspaper got involved in high lighting his plight .They asked me for permission to use any photos i had of him .
    I believe that he has since been deported back to Germany .Its very unusual to see a street sleeping Westerner over here .


  • #143
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    anto2 wrote: »
    I honestly never noticed that.

    Sure you didn't :D


  • #144
    MiskyBoyy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,799 ✭✭✭MiskyBoyy


    GoldenTickets wrote: »
    Could have done without seeing that homeless guys pecker to be honest (sadly there is no vomiting smilie for me to insert here).

    I was going through the posts after the picture thinking "SURELY someone has to have seen that and said something!" - and sure someone did, thankfully, as I thought I was the only one! My eyes have been permanently scarred!

    After going through this thread, I have suddenly gained an interest in street portraits. Thanks to everyone for all their great photographs! :)


  • #145
    Effects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Can someone post the homeless knob again? I can't be bothered looking for it myself.


  • #146
    Kenny Logins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Effects wrote: »
    Can someone post the homeless knob again? I can't be bothered looking for it myself.

    Yeah, sure. PM your address there.


  • #147
    pullandbang
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 4,948 ✭✭✭pullandbang


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  • #148
    anto2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭anto2


    Effects wrote: »
    Can someone post the homeless knob again? I can't be bothered looking for it myself.


    Its on page 9 .


  • #149
    Effects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Got it. Not offended.


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    BigDaddyCan
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭BigDaddyCan


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  • #151
    okmqaz42
    Registered Users Posts: 612 ✭✭✭okmqaz42


    Easy targets, still absurd, still fun.

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