County Club championships 2011

patmac · 19-09-2011 3:29pm #1

We usually do one of these every year.
So in Roscommon this year:
October 9th SFC Final: St Brigid’s vs Elphin (a repeat of last year’s final, Brigids are red hot favourites)
October 2nd IFC Final: Padraig Pearses vs St Dominics (Pearses will be favourites having been county finalists in 2008)
October 2nd JF A Final: Clan na Gael vs Creggs (Creggs will be favourites here)
Sept 25th Senior Hurling Championship Semi-Finals:
Four Roads vs Padraig Pearses (Four Roads red hot favourites to win championship)
Oran vs Athleague (Athleague Favourites)

Stevecw · 19-09-2011 9:10pm

Ah wud u look at this lad, winning the pools has gone to his head it seems!! Off he goes starting threads etc

haha

Only messing, this will be a good thread, always nice to follow whats going on in every co. Can be a good way to beat the bookies.
In Carlow The qfs were played at weekend and Tinryland (who i'm told are being followed by John Murray Radio show each week on radio 1) beat O'Hanrahans 3-16 to 0-10. Most predictable result of the wkend. Tinryland at 2/7 saw lots of my mates lump on that.

2nd qf was great game Eire Og, who in 90s were one of best clubs in Ireland, won 5 leinsters in 7 years, but once that team got old have suffered since. They won co title in 08 only one since that great side, last year ended in relegation play offs. This year they with seriously young side won 3-11 to 2-8. Semis are nxt wkend, Rathvilly v Tinryland & Eire Og v Old Leighlin.

From a betting angle, I reckon Rathvilly with Brendan Murphy playing great stuff will take Tinryland...and might win it out. See what the odds are, but worth a few quid on Rathvilly winning it out.

Eo v OL is a toss up, 2 good teams, will be a point in it either way. Can't see either beat Rathvilly in final.

Wow that went on a bit!

Deise 2012 · 19-09-2011 9:26pm

Waterford Senior Hurling Semi Finals

Ballygunner V De La Salle
Ballyduff Upper V Tallow.

Games to be played first weekend of October

Football quarter Finals
The Nire V An Rinn
Stradbally V Ardmore
Ballinacourty V Gaultier
Brickeys V Kilrossanty
Games to be played this weekend.

aidan24326 · 20-09-2011 3:22pm

Galway:

Football is at semi final stages. One semi is Corofin v Milltown. This one could be close, Corofin favourites but beatable. Defence includes Damien Burke, Kieran Fitzgerald and Alan Burke. Gary Sice is there aswell. Forward line not that great though. Kinda fancy Milltown to take them.

The other semi is Salthill/Knocknacarra vs either Tuam Stars or the winners of Mountbellew/Moylough vs Cortoon replay. Salthill have been going very well and look the most likely to come through this side of the draw.

The hurling championship isn't even at the quarter final stage yet so not much to report there. Portumna the team to beat again with Joe Canning, Damien Hayes, Andy Smith and Kevin Hayes giving them a very powerful forward line at this level.

theoneeyedman · 20-09-2011 10:30pm

St Mary's carrick try to prevent glencar/manorhamilton a 3 in a row in leitrim while tourlestran face coolers /strandhill in sligo. Former kingpins easkey and tubbercurry face off to see who drops to intermediate

blackbelt · 21-09-2011 3:25pm

Dublin

A total free for all. A huge fixture congestion now ensues.

Hurling has been proposed to revert to knockout rather than group and knockout.Football is up in arms too with the next 5 weeks set to see at least one game on per evening and in a lot of cases,double headers in Parnell Park.

ROBBO7 · 21-09-2011 3:57pm

Stevecw wrote: »

Ah wud u look at this lad, winning the pools has gone to his head it seems!! Off he goes starting threads etc haha

Only messing, this will be a good thread, always nice to follow whats going on in every co. Can be a good way to beat the bookies.
In Carlow The qfs were played at weekend and Tinryland (who i'm told are being followed by John Murray Radio show each week on radio 1) beat O'Hanrahans 3-16 to 0-10. Most predictable result of the wkend. Tinryland at 2/7 saw lots of my mates lump on that.

2nd qf was great game Eire Og, who in 90s were one of best clubs in Ireland, won 5 leinsters in 7 years, but once that team got old have suffered since. They won co title in 08 only one since that great side, last year ended in relegation play offs. This year they with seriously young side won 3-11 to 2-8. Semis are nxt wkend, Rathvilly v Tinryland & Eire Og v Old Leighlin.

From a betting angle, I reckon Rathvilly with Brendan Murphy playing great stuff will take Tinryland...and might win it out. See what the odds are, but worth a few quid on Rathvilly winning it out.

Eo v OL is a toss up, 2 good teams, will be a point in it either way. Can't see either beat Rathvilly in final.

Wow that went on a bit!

Howya as you seem to go to a lot of these matches how did Palatine look this year and who knocked them out?

ROBBO7 · 21-09-2011 4:00pm

Kildare SFC Semi Finals

Athy Vs St Laurences
carbury vs Celbridge

Big shocks for punters in QFS as reigning champions Moorefield knocked out along with fancied Sarsfields outfit.

Bookies have Laurences slight favourites but Athy are 2nd favourites to win it out so thats the match to go to.
Carbury with the 2 O'Flahertys against the 2008 winners Celbridge who are a bit big at 9/1 should be a good one too. Both matches on at weekend preceded by both minor Semi Finals.

Stevecw · 21-09-2011 11:42pm

ROBBO7 wrote: »

Howya as you seem to go to a lot of these matches how did Palatine look this year and who knocked them out?

Pal came 2nd in their group this year, but were in by far the weakest one. It was them that lost to Eire Og on Saturday, 3-11 to 2-8 in quarter final.

They looked ok, but still relying on too many guys who are well into their 30's by now...Brian Farrell, Joe Byrne, most of the Reids etc.

Need to find a mf as Murtagh Ware & Eoghan Ruth destroyed them there at wkend.

Kojak · 22-09-2011 2:01am

blackbelt wrote: »

Dublin

A total free for all. A huge fixture congestion now ensues.

Hurling has been proposed to revert to knockout rather than group and knockout.Football is up in arms too with the next 5 weeks set to see at least one game on per evening and in a lot of cases,double headers in Parnell Park.

Is there a chance that Dublin won't have representation in the Leinster club championships this year?

Galway may not have one in Connacht after all the problems with the SFC and now there is a replay this weekend..

Kerrydude1981 · 22-09-2011 9:11am

Kerry County Championship will be kicking back into action in the next few weeks.

02/10/2011
East Kerry vs Dingle

08/10/2011
West Kerry vs Kerins O Rahillys

09/10/2011
Rathmore vs Mid Kerry
Dr Crokes vs Austin Stacks

Few interesting matches,Tommy Walsh back for Kerins O Rahillys,big boost for them

blackbelt · 22-09-2011 1:18pm

Kojak wrote: »

Is there a chance that Dublin won't have representation in the Leinster club championships this year?

Galway may not have one in Connacht after all the problems with the SFC and now there is a replay this weekend..

No,Dublin will just about have a representative but the only problem is that the champions will have to play the following week against the Meath Champions.I can only imagine should a game end in a draw that extra time periods will have to be played as a replay is not viable if we want Leinster representation.

DoctaDee · 22-09-2011 1:45pm

blackbelt wrote: »

No,Dublin will just about have a representative but the only problem is that the champions will have to play the following week against the Meath Champions.I can only imagine should a game end in a draw that extra time periods will have to be played as a replay is not viable if we want Leinster representation.

Yeah 3rd round is being run next weekend ... nice double header in PP on the Saturday .. Kickhams v Isles and Brigids v Na Fianna. All matches go to extra time - I have a feeling they're cutting out a round to get it finished in time ?

premierstone · 23-09-2011 4:13pm

Quarter Finals in the Tipp senior Hurling take place this weekend the line-up is

Thurles v Loughmore
Drom v Toomevara
Clonoulty v Nenagh
Borrisoleigh v Mullinahone

The first one will be a cracker and IMO is the county final, Thurles looked very good the last day against a Kildangan team who had won the AI sevens just two weeks previous, they were 6 points down after 20 mins playing against a very strong wind but then scored 1-11 unanswered either side of HT time to win by 8 eventually, on paper they have a team capable of wining an AI but there are always question marks about their mentality and their appetite for a battle, winter hurling doesnt really suit them, Loughmore will be no pushover and are a very very strong outfit with such hurlers as Noel McGrath, Michael Webster, Liam McGrath, Tom King, Evan Sweeney, David Kennedy etc. I think Thurles will just about have enough but the 3/1 about Loughmore is way overpriced and actually downright ludicrous.

Second game is just as intriquing and I actually predict a bit of an upset here, Drom are 13/8 and I think have enough to get past an ageing Toom team who havent played in nearly two months and are without John O'Brien who is suspended and their best hurler so far this year Joey McLoughney who has emigrated. The key battle I guess will be Benny Dunne v Seamus Callinan, Seamie has been on fire for the club this year and I expect Drom to come out on top.

Clonoulty v Nenagh is a tough one to call, Nenagh have a number of injury worries and the most notable been the loss of Kevin Tucker who is the leader of their team, however Clonolty havent played in along time and their division is by far the weakest in Tipp so they havent really been tested yet, that said I fancy them to win this one with Timmy Hammersley and John O'Neill doing the damage against a suspect Nenagh FB line.

The last one is a real toss of a coin, Borris are just so hard to play against they are very good defensively and off course have the great talent that is Brendan Maher, however they do struggle to put up big scores and the rest of their forwards are relatively poor. Mullinahone on the other hand have Eoin Kelly, Paul Kelly, Niall Curran, Paul Curran and Sean Curran to call upon, they havent really impressed this year so far but one would feel as has happened in the past they will improve when they get to Semple Stadium, the key to this game will be the match ups between Paddy Stapelton and Eoin Kelly and Brendan Maher and Paul Curran, whoever wins these battles will have a big bearing on the final outcome.

From a betting perspective I would reccomend a nice double on Drom and Clonoulty @ 3/1 with PP.

dartbhoy · 23-09-2011 8:24pm

Cork County SFC Semi Finals Saturday September 24th Pairc Ui Rinn

6 15pm Avondhu v UCC.
7 45pm Carbery Rangers v Castlehaven.

Avondhu dethroned reigning and Munster champions Nemo Rangers in the quarter final but I think they might come a cropper here against an improving UCC who'll welcome back players to the panel after the summer break.

The 2nd game is a West Cork derby and promises to be a tough hard fought affair but I give Castlehaven the nod here over the Ross boys.

25-09-2011 6:06pm

Tipp senior hurling semis will include CJ Kickhams Mullinahone, Clonoulty-Rossmore, Thurles Sarsfields, and Drom-Inch. Open draw tomorrow night. Long term dominators Toomevara knocked out today by Drom-Inch by 10 points.

Football im not sure of thus far but will post it up as soon as i know

mrgaa1 · 25-09-2011 7:50pm

Crossmaglen and Ballymacnab to contest armagh senior county final after beating Pearse Og and Granemore respectively.

theoneeyedman · 25-09-2011 9:43pm

Glencar /manorhamilton beat carrick in leitrim final for their 4th senior title in a row. Melvin Gaels won intermediate for a swift return to senior ranks. In Longford St Bridget's (killashee/clondra) won their first intermediate since 03 beating ballymore by a point

25-09-2011 11:06pm

In Tipperary football championship, Arravale Rovers and Clonmel Commercials are through to the county semis after winning the west and south finals repectively.

In the quarters are JK Brackens (Mid champions), Thomas Mcdonaghs (North champions - combo team), and i think but im not sure, Galtee Rovers and Moyle Rovers (both via qualifiers)

cruiserweight · 26-09-2011 2:10am

Wexford hurling semi finals were on Sunday, Rathnure and Oulart both made the final. The football semi finals are next weekend, with Horeswood playing St Mogue's Fethard and Castletown-Liam Mellows playing Sarsfields.

Speak Now · 26-09-2011 12:53pm

Ballyhale and Carrickshock drew the weekend in the Kilkenny S.H.C Quarter Final.

St.Martins and James Stephens won their Quarter finals.

Dicksboro won their replay and will play O'Loughlins in the remaining Q.F.

premierstone · 26-09-2011 1:03pm

premierstone wrote: »

I think Thurles will just about have enough but the 3/1 about Loughmore is way overpriced and actually downright ludicrous.Thurles won by 4 in a cracker, they will take some stoping now

The key battle I guess will be Benny Dunne v Seamus Callinan, Seamie has been on fire for the club this year and I expect Drom to come out on top. Seamie scored 12 points as Drom upset the odds

I fancy them to win this one with Timmy Hammersley and John O'Neill doing the damage against a suspect Nenagh FB line. John o'Neill scored 2-3 as Clonoulty won handy enough

The last one is a real toss of a coin, Mullinahone won in extra time

From a betting perspective I would reccomend a nice double on Drom and Clonoulty @ 3/1 with PP. Easy money

If only all weekends were this easy!

razor425 · 26-09-2011 4:28pm

Anyone have any info on the Clare senior football championship. I know Kilmurray are odds on favourites but have any of the others got a chance?

User Friendly · 26-09-2011 5:48pm

razor425 wrote: »

Anyone have any info on the Clare senior football championship. I know Kilmurray are odds on favourites but have any of the others got a chance?

Kilmurray are sh1te hot favs according to the bookies.

They play Dual club Cratloe,who are also in the county snr hurling semi final,Next weekend in the county semi final in Lissycasey, 13 of the Cratloe players who took part in their quarter final 7pt win took to the field last sat eve to play with the hurlers in their hurling qfinal victory.
i Have no doubt that the bookies will make Kilmurray Ibricken favourites in their clash next weekend but my money will be on Cratloe! these 2 teams met in last years Qfinal with Kilmurray coming out on top after a disputed point clinching victory,that winning score was a sore point for Cratloe and honest Kilmurray Ibricken supporters will tell you the ball was wide:) i will be attending this game like i did the Qfinals where i saw a classy bunch of intelligent footballers win handily at odds of 8/11:D:D get in!! i also saw Kilmurray grind out a 1 point win in their match,There is something lacking in this Kilmurray team and i dont believe they will beat Cratloe the one concern i have is the venue,Cratloe seem to play all their games in Cusack park ennis,the venue for this clash is Lissycasey,im not sure if any of their players have ever played at this venue,Kilmurray would be comfortable with the venue.

The other semi final sees St josephs doora barefield play Wolfe tones of shannon in cusack park ennis.
Josephs had a 1 point win over county champions Doonbeg in the qfinal last time out,All Ireland and former kerry goalkeeper Declan of keefe contributed 2 points from frees for his side,this was a very physical contest played in wintry conditions hence the low scoreline of 7 points to 6,but Fair play to barefield,they stuck to their task and despite going 4 points down in the 2nd half the edged their way back and in the final minute of normal time,the winning score came,the victory was helped by Doonbegs wayward shooting in front of goal,both from 21yrd frees and from play,to be honest doonbeg would have been kicking themselves after throwing it away imo.
Wolftones entered this years snr championship as underdogs in every group game,i saw them leave the field of play,after allowing Kilkee to claw back a 4point lead in the closing stages a week ago,utterly disgusted with themselves,it was like a defeat and many felt they had left their chance to advance to the county semi final behind them,but No,they had a 4 point victory over the same opposition yesterday,at 1 stage they lead kilkee 1-7 v 0-2pts.

Tones v barefield is a hard one to call,barefield will be favs but only a fool would back against a team who have thrived on their underdog tags all year,what a reward it would be for Patsy Keys an co to get to a county snr football final,for what many regard as a hurling club,then again,the same could be said of the once crowned all ireland club champions,st josephs doora barefield

Fr D Maugire · 26-09-2011 10:07pm

In Donegal, its Glenswilly v St.Michaels in the Senior final, a novel pairing even though they have been challengers in recent times. Give the nod to Glenswilly though might be tight.

Intermediate final is St.Nauls v Naomh Columba or Naomh Colmcille,

St.Nauls will be looking to break their hoodoo as they have lost so many Intermediate finals its unreal.
Naomh Colmcille surprisingly held Naomh Columba in the other semi-final so a replay is required. Naomh Colmcille were probably the worst team in Donegal not that long ago so to see then close to an Intermediate final is impressive.
Still fancy Naomh Columba to win the replay and then prolong the Nauls misery.

Not sure about the Junior or Hurling finals yet.

Well done to County Board or whoever for getting the Championship played even though Donegal reached an All-Ireland semi-final this year. Quite a few other counties who didnt get as far as Donegal seem to be further behind in their club championships. Proof that Club football doesnt need to stop just because the County team is doing well.

27-09-2011 3:05pm

Confirmation from Tipperary.gaa.ie

COUNTY SENIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

The county senior football championship quarter final draws and fixtures were made on Monday night last. On Saturday October 1 Moyle Rovers will play Galtee Rovers / St. Pecaun at 1.30pm at Leahy Park, Cashel. On Sunday October 9, JK Brackens will play Thomas MacDonaghs at Toomevara at 3pm. Arravale Rovers and Clonmel Commercials have already qualified for the semi-finals.

COUNTY SENIOR HURLING CHAMPIONSHIP SEMI-FINALS

The county senior hurling semi-finals will take place next Sunday at Semple Stadium. Drom and Inch will play Mullinahone at 2pm with Fergal Horgan in charge and Thurles Sarsfields will play Clonoulty Rossmore at 3pm with John Cleary as referee. Thurles Sarsfields defeated Clonoulty Rossmore in last year’s county final and they last met at semi-final stage in 2008 when Sarsfields won a replay after extra time. It’s interesting to note that Clonoulty Rossmore are coached this year by former Sarsfields player, Liam Cahill. Drom and Inch and Mullinahone have never met at semi-final stage but Mullinahone won their earlier round clash in last year’s championship. It is interesting to note that this is the first time since 1997 and only the second time since 1959 that no team from the North Division qualified for the semi-finals. The county senior hurling final will be played at Semple Stadium on October 16.

castletownman · 28-09-2011 5:21pm

Wexford senior football semi-finals on this Sunday

Horeswood v Fethard contest the first. Horeswood are hot favourites to make it to the final again and will be looking to win their fourth title since 2005. Fethard may be underdogs but have scraped back to back one-point victories against both Shelmaliers and Gusserane, who were both favourites going into the match. The fact that they are district rivals means that it'll be close and tight but on paper Horeswood should have too much firepower, with PJ Banville to the fore.

The other semi consists of defending champions Castletown and another of the season's surprise packets Sarsfields. Castletown have built up a ten match unbeaten championship run but survived by the skin of their teeth when forced to extra time by Shelmaliers in the last round. While Sarsfields scored an odd score of 4-2 in the quarter to beat Adamstown by three, they have notched some high scores all year and will certainly relish the chance to knock the champs off the perch. Castletown have injury doubts over two key forwards James Holmes and Anthony Masterson and may be vulnerable in their absence. But should they be fit, they should have the experience and tactical nous to account for Sarsfields.

Hammer Archer · 29-09-2011 1:47pm

Meath Senior Football final is on Sunday between Dunshaughlin and Summerhill in Navan.
Both weren't expected to win their respective semi finals. Summerhill beat Wolfe Tones and Dunshaughlin beat Donaghmore/Ashbourne.
Summerhill are 1/2 favourites to win on Sunday.

DoctaDee · 29-09-2011 2:09pm

Latest courtesy of DCB (hill16.ie)

The eventual Dublin county club champions of 2011 in both football and hurling will get to play in the Leinster club championship after the Leinster Council on Wednesday night voted unanimously to accept a proposal to alter the dates of their competitions in order to facilitate Dublin’s championship.
The eventual football champions will play the Meath representatives (final this Sunday, Dunshaughlin v Summerhill) in Navan on November 13 while the Dublin hurling champions will face Westmeath’s representatives November 6.
The Dublin county board will now form a sub-committee which will forumulate new proposal over the scheduling of both the football and hurling championships in order to avoid such delays in the future.

AGC · 29-09-2011 2:27pm

Good to see although they should put in place a rule where club championship should be played once there is more than 2 weeks between inter county matches.

The idea of playing a match in April and next round is October is crazy.

keane2097 · 29-09-2011 2:33pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Kerry County Championship will be kicking back into action in the next few weeks.

02/10/2011
East Kerry vs Dingle

08/10/2011
West Kerry vs Kerins O Rahillys

09/10/2011
Rathmore vs Mid Kerry
Dr Crokes vs Austin Stacks

Few interesting matches,Tommy Walsh back for Kerins O Rahillys,big boost for them

Barry John Walsh out for the rest of the year now though, along with David Moran obv.

keane2097 · 29-09-2011 2:34pm

DoctaDee wrote: »

Latest courtesy of DCB (hill16.ie)

The eventual Dublin county club champions of 2011 in both football and hurling will get to play in the Leinster club championship after the Leinster Council on Wednesday night voted unanimously to accept a proposal to alter the dates of their competitions in order to facilitate Dublin’s championship.
The eventual football champions will play the Meath representatives (final this Sunday, Dunshaughlin v Summerhill) in Navan on November 13 while the Dublin hurling champions will face Westmeath’s representatives November 6.
The Dublin county board will now form a sub-committee which will forumulate new proposal over the scheduling of both the football and hurling championships in order to avoid such delays in the future.

That's a bit of a joke tbh.

antoobrien · 29-09-2011 2:47pm

aidan24326 wrote: »

Galway:

The hurling championship isn't even at the quarter final stage yet so not much to report there. Portumna the team to beat again with Joe Canning, Damien Hayes, Andy Smith and Kevin Hayes giving them a very powerful forward line at this level.

Joe Canning & Andy Smith are suspended for getting straight red cards in a brawl in the match at the weekend. They will miss at least the 1/4 final and possibly the semi as well if the dates fall wrong.

Preliminary 1/4 finals on this weekend:
Mullagh v Liam Mellows
Loughrea v Tommie Larkins
Tynagh Abbey Duniry v St.Thomas
Sarsfields v Craughwell

Portumna, Carnmore, Clarinbridge & Gort get a bye into the 1/4 final as group winners. 1/4 final draw is group winners vs preliminary round winners.

Kojak · 30-09-2011 11:15am

AGC wrote: »

Good to see although they should put in place a rule where club championship should be played once there is more than 2 weeks between inter county matches.

The idea of playing a match in April and next round is October is crazy.

Spot on there AGC, but isn't it always the same year in, year out? If a county is going well (take Dublin for example this year) the all game in case the players get injured, tired etc.

Galway stopped their SHC back in May to facilitate the seniors who were knoced out before the Galway races, yet the hurling only started up last weekend. Ridiculous. :rolleyes:

DoctaDee · 30-09-2011 11:31am

keane2097 wrote: »

That's a bit of a joke tbh.

Our's is not to wonder why .. tho in fairness no provincial club could call themselves Leinster champions without beating Dublin champions ... bit like beatin Kerry to win an All Ireland

... jaysis you were very quiet post-match

keane2097 · 30-09-2011 11:42am

DoctaDee wrote: »

Our's is not to wonder why .. tho in fairness no provincial club could call themselves Leinster champions without beating Dublin champions ... bit like beatin Kerry to win an All Ireland ... jaysis you were very quiet post-match

I asked to be banned for a few days before and after the match.

The Dublin teams should have to play the games at the time they were originally scheduled just like every other team always has to.

Kerins O'Rahilly's from Tralee had to play a Munster Final against Nemo Rangers in 2008 in between a drawn County Final and the replay, which they subsequently lost to Mid-Kerry (divisional side who are ineligible to play in the All Ireland series). A Dublin team winning the All Ireland this year would leave a sour taste in the mouth as they've been helped along in an extraordinary way by the Leinster Council.

DoctaDee · 30-09-2011 12:40pm

keane2097 wrote: »

I asked to be banned for a few days before and after the match.

The Dublin teams should have to play the games at the time they were originally scheduled just like every other team always has to.

Kerins O'Rahilly's from Tralee had to play a Munster Final against Nemo Rangers in 2008 in between a drawn County Final and the replay, which they subsequently lost to Mid-Kerry (divisional side who are ineligible to play in the All Ireland series). A Dublin team winning the All Ireland this year would leave a sour taste in the mouth as they've been helped along in an extraordinary way by the Leinster Council.

The only thing I can say in reply Keane is that the decision was taken unanimously by the 13 county delegates plus the executive of the Council ..

keane2097 · 30-09-2011 12:42pm

DoctaDee wrote: »

The only thing I can say in reply Keane is that the decision was taken unanimously by the 13 county delegates plus the executive of the Council ..

Similar to my line on Mr. Connolly, if this is the new default stance nationwide then great, if it's a once-off to help out the Dubs then fuck it.

Orizio · 30-09-2011 12:56pm

Senior Hurling final in Cork in on this Sunday, Carrigtwohill versus C.I.T.; C.I.T. are probably favourites, pretty much the entirety of their team has played underage inter-county, although their best known players are Lorcan McLoughlin (Cork Senior hurler), Aidan Walsh (Cork Senior footballer) plus loads of Cork U-21s. Carrig will be reliant on Noel Furlong, Niall McCarthy and Robert White, plus they have a very strong midfield pairing.

premierstone · 30-09-2011 1:25pm

DoctaDee wrote: »

The only thing I can say in reply Keane is that the decision was taken unanimously by the 13 county delegates plus the executive of the Council ..

Begs the question at what price

antoobrien · 30-09-2011 3:02pm

Kojak wrote: »

Galway stopped their SHC back in May to facilitate the seniors who were knoced out before the Galway races, yet the hurling only started up last weekend. Ridiculous. :rolleyes:

The real problem this year was the way the minor & U21 fixtures fell (and the fact that neither were knocked out before a final). There was very little room for playing matches after the seniors went out because most of the fixtures has somebody involved in either grade. The clubs are entitled not to play a championship match if a senior team member is on all-ireland duty (no matter what grade).

Kerrydude1981 · 30-09-2011 4:25pm

Orizio wrote: »

Senior Hurling final in Cork in on this Sunday, Carrigtwohill versus C.I.T.; C.I.T. are probably favourites, pretty much the entirety of their team has played underage inter-county, although their best known players are Lorcan McLoughlin (Cork Senior hurler), Aidan Walsh (Cork Senior footballer) plus loads of Cork U-21s. Carrig will be reliant on Noel Furlong, Niall McCarthy and Robert White, plus they have a very strong midfield pairing.

Quick question who is in the final of the Cork Intermediate hurling final this year,the winners play the Kerry Senior County Champions in the Munster Intermediate Championship,Kerry final is between Ballyduff and Crotta

Hammer Archer · 30-09-2011 4:56pm

DoctaDee wrote: »

The only thing I can say in reply Keane is that the decision was taken unanimously by the 13 county delegates plus the executive of the Council ..

I made the point in the separate thread that 3 times in the past 4 years, clubs have asked for a delay but were denied. Why should this change and so drastically seeing as the Meath champions will have a 6 week wait between their final on Sunday and their first round game against the Dublin champions.
And Meath didn't object but did raise concerns about the double standards. No doubt if we did object the usual suspects would call it unsportsmanlike. As I said, the Dublin teams' progress this year was unprecedented but other county champions shouldn't have to suffer as a result.

Orizio · 30-09-2011 5:17pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Quick question who is in the final of the Cork Intermediate hurling final this year,the winners play the Kerry Senior County Champions in the Munster Intermediate Championship,Kerry final is between Ballyduff and Crotta

Final hasn't been decided yet, Courcies are there, Youghal/Newceston have to play a replay. I'm thinking Youghal are faves to win it out.

DoctaDee · 30-09-2011 8:50pm

keane2097 wrote: »

Similar to my line on Mr. Connolly, if this is the new default stance nationwide then great, if it's a once-off to help out the Dubs then fuck it.

Again as with the DC issue, couldn't agree more withcha - the only proviso I'd have here would be that it was a Leinster Council decision - so the precedent should certainly apply within Leinster

premierstone wrote: »

Begs the question at what price

Yeah this is a hard one to gauge - all delegates had a vested interest insofar as the Leinster championship has yet to begin and their respective representaives are still involved. I'd like to think it was just a common sense decision and pays recognition to the success of both our IC teams

Hammer Archer wrote: »

I made the point in the separate thread that 3 times in the past 4 years, clubs have asked for a delay but were denied. Why should this change and so drastically seeing as the Meath champions will have a 6 week wait between their final on Sunday and their first round game against the Dublin champions.
And Meath didn't object but did raise concerns about the double standards. No doubt if we did object the usual suspects would call it unsportsmanlike. As I said, the Dublin teams' progress this year was unprecedented but other county champions shouldn't have to suffer as a result.

The same argument can be made for AI provincial champions and their undue layoff before their quarter final action. Without meaning to sound cocky, I'm sure you'd agree the Leinster Club Championship would be diminished without a Dublin involvement in both codes. There were 32 teams involved in SFC and 24 in SHC in Dublin

Hammer Archer · 30-09-2011 11:02pm

DoctaDee wrote: »

The same argument can be made for AI provincial champions and their undue layoff before their quarter final action. Without meaning to sound cocky, I'm sure you'd agree the Leinster Club Championship would be diminished without a Dublin involvement in both codes. There were 32 teams involved in SFC and 24 in SHC in Dublin

Yes. But rarely would a provincial champion have a 6 week layoff.
OK, I really don't want to make this sound anti-Dublin, but are you suggesting that Dublin clubs should be favoured over other counties' clubs just because they are historically more successful in the competition?

As I said, three clubs (or County Boards) recently (Seneschalstown, Baltinglass and Kilanerin) have asked for delays and all three requests were denied. This led to Baltinglass and Kilanerin pulling out of the club championship in their respective years and Seneschalstown having to play Portlaoise less than 3 days after their Meath SFC final replay. Does it seem fair that another request for a (much much longer) delay has now been granted?
It was clear months ago that the Dublin football and hurling teams were going to have a special year so the DCB should have had a plan in place to get the county championships played, without the clubs' county players if necessary. Look at the Pro 12, Aviva Premiership and Top 14 all continuing while the Rugby World Cup is on.

I would say it leaves a bit of a bitter taste in the mouth of these clubs who were denied a fair shot at Leinster (or any shot at all) to see what looks like double standards in the Leinster Council.

howiya · 01-10-2011 11:17am

Hammer Archer wrote: »

It was clear months ago that the Dublin football and hurling teams were going to have a special year so the DCB should have had a plan in place to get the county championships played, without the clubs' county players if necessary. Look at the Pro 12, Aviva Premiership and Top 14 all continuing while the Rugby World Cup is on.

The same Official Guide does not apply to the Pro 12, Aviva Premiership and Top 14 as far as I am aware so your comparison is stupid and pointless. Also I doubt the participants in these professional competitions are prepared to forego revenue during the world cup. The same commercial realities do not apply to club championships. Again making your comparison even less valid

What needs to be done is very simple. Official Guide (part 1) 6.23 provides for maximum time frames players can be away from their clubs and not expected to fulfil club championship games in the run up to an inter county match.

County Boards (and not just Dublin, look at the hurling in Galway only at 1/4 final stage) need to pass bye laws reducing these time frames away from the maximum length and stand up to inter county managers who seem to be dictating club fixtures

01-10-2011 12:41pm

Orizio wrote: »

Senior Hurling final in Cork in on this Sunday, Carrigtwohill versus C.I.T.; C.I.T. are probably favourites, pretty much the entirety of their team has played underage inter-county, although their best known players are Lorcan McLoughlin (Cork Senior hurler), Aidan Walsh (Cork Senior footballer) plus loads of Cork U-21s. Carrig will be reliant on Noel Furlong, Niall McCarthy and Robert White, plus they have a very strong midfield pairing.

Not sure i agree with college participation in a club championship as CIT and UCC would have a massive advantage over a small parish like say Newtownshandrum but at the same time its good to see classy hurlers like Aidan Walsh and Lorcan Mcloughlin with the opportunity to win a county medal.
I think Colin Fennelly would be eligible to line up for CIT although id imagine the Kilkenny quarter final replay with Carrickshock will be Colin's priority the weekend

howiya · 01-10-2011 12:57pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure i agree with college participation in a club championship as CIT and UCC would have a massive advantage over a small parish like say Newtownshandrum but at the same time its good to see classy hurlers like Aidan Walsh and Lorcan Mcloughlin with the opportunity to win a county medal.
I think Colin Fennelly would be eligible to line up for CIT although id imagine the Kilkenny quarter final replay with Carrickshock will be Colin's priority the weekend

How does that work? Would the Cork lads not have played for their clubs in the competition already making them ineligible?

01-10-2011 1:51pm

howiya wrote: »

How does that work? Would the Cork lads not have played for their clubs in the competition already making them ineligible?

I think their club Kanturk are intermediate as they are more demographically a football area.

DoctaDee · 01-10-2011 7:57pm

A not unexpected big win for Ballymun Kickhams against their near neighbours and rivals Erins Isle in Parnell Park today 3-13 to 0-7 and in a closely fought 2nd match St. Brigids got home with 3 points to spare over Na Fianna 0-14 0-11

County Club championships 2011

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