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BOOK CLUB - Galway

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Hi Guys
    unfortunatly I cant make it this evening - something came up last minute. Its a shame because I was looking forward to venting my disgust at the book! It has been wierdest thing ever read.
    Also may be the first time since my joining that ladies outnumber the men!
    Anyway have fun - and look forward to seeing the opinions on book


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Tawny


    Hi - after last nights meet the idea of a Halloween book was mentioned again.

    The suggestions so far were Dracula or Frankenstein, Dracula is pretty short and they should both be relatively easy to get.

    Does anyone want to do it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    I'd love to read Frankenstein. I have read Dracula before. I think it would be great to read somethinh Halloweeney :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Yep +1 for Frankenstein.
    What were the reveiws Choke?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    All in favour of reading Frankenstein for next BookClub for Halloween?

    please let me know if this is a problem. I know it's short notice.


    Only Tristan C managed to finish Choke but I will put up datails of it tomorrow. I should be finished it by then too :)
    so I can give my own rating of it. Feel free to put up your own thoughts Pseudonym1 etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Pinkshoes


    Frankenstein sounds good to me. Was looking up scary reads on the internet and it appears in pretty much all the top tens!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Tawny


    So is Frankenstein the book for the next meet instead of Factotum, or are we reading both?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    I think just Frankenstein


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    Yeah, just Frankenstein for the 28th. We can discuss Factotum at the following meeting. It should be easy to get in town. Think I'll take a walk in now and look for it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Get me a copy T!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Tawny


    Ok cool :) looking forward to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    I bought Frankenstein yesterday in Dubray books for €2.85. Not bad huh?


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Angelandie


    I didnt manage to make it for the last meeting but i did manage to finish Choke! It was undoubtly the wierdest book i have ever read! I'm not sure I would bother to read any of his other books! Looking forward to frankenstein.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Ms. Ka


    Can anyone join the book club?
    If so whats the next book and where are you meeting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    Yip, anyone can join the club :)

    Our next meeting is next Tuesday evening at 8pm in Bar No. 8 on the docks. We are reading Frankenstein at the moment...in celebration of Halloween.

    Look forward to seeing you there Ms. K


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭rumplestiltskin


    hey there.this sounds like a great idea. can i join please?? where and when do ye meet??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Hi Rumple... see the post above yours!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    Hello Everyone,

    Just a few words in relation to Choke, the last book we discussed at BookClub. I know this is late, but as they say better late than never!

    Ok, from what I could gather no one was to keen on the book at all. Tristan C finished it on time. I finished it a few days later and apart from us two, I'm not sure who else read the whole thing. I don't think anyone was to bothered about finishing it anyway.

    I thought it was ok. Nothing special at all really. Lots of shock value used in it and none of the characters in it were really that likable. The Mother was an annoying bi**h especially. In all I think the whole thing was a bit childish, and trying too hard to be too cool for school. I don't know if there was any point to the book either. The plot was very thin in my opinion ans as I expected there was a twist at the end. I only expected it to be honest because I thought the book was basically a copy of FightClub, just with different scenarios. It's interesting that on the cover, there is a critique that says 'Choke is FightClub for sex addicts'. I get the impression that this wasn't necessarily meant as a "good" criticism, but those clever marketing people decided to make it into one by turning it around and putting it on full view...in a way letting this book ride on the coat tails of success of FightClub. As I felt myself, this was just a copy of FightClub but in a different situation and that's what I believe the critic was getting at when he wrote the review displayed on the cover.

    The film will be out fairly soon. I'm kind of interested in seeing it because in my opinion the film FightClub was better that the book, so I'm wondering if they will manage to do the same here. Plus, Kelly McDonald (from Trainspotting is in it :) ). I think that's her correct name.

    In all, I would give the book 5/10. The characters were too annoying, especially their dialogue. The plot was too thin and the whole shock value gimmick doesn't really work. Bit of a cheap trick. But having said that, some of it was kind of funny.

    One question...is the main character a "sex addict" or is he just a regular young male doing what lots of regular young males do? Maybe this is one of the points of the book...to point fingers at percieved stereotypes. As in, if you go to the bar once a week, you're obviously an alco. If you like having sex, you're a sex addict? Political correctness gone too far. I know the book is an exaggeration and somewhat of a satire but is this the reasoning behind it?

    The discussion was attended by:
    Sec
    Brian O' S
    Pinkshoes
    Tawny
    Pope Buckfast
    Tristan C (who wrote a review which I can't find at the moment :confused:)
    myself
    Think that's everyone who attended


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    Hi Everyone,

    Our Halloween Bookclub will take place this evening in Bar No. 8 at 8pm. Feel free to dress up in a Halloween costume :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Pinkshoes


    Hey guys!

    I was thinking of 'On the Road' by Jack Kerouac as the next book choice. Any objections? Let me know if ye have already read it.

    Pinkshoes :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    I think there was a question in yesterday's Irish Times cross-word about that book. Hmmm, interesting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Pinkshoes wrote: »
    Hey guys!

    I was thinking of 'On the Road' by Jack Kerouac as the next book choice. Any objections? Let me know if ye have already read it.

    Pinkshoes :)

    Sounds Good :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Yep I wouldn't mind giving that a go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Ms. Ka


    cool that sounds like an interesting book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Hello All :)

    In honor of Halloween we read Frankenstein, the popular novel by Mary Shelly written in 1818. Although I didn’t yet finish it, found this one of the most enjoyable and interesting book club discussions so far.

    Whilst the book is not scary the issues it addresses are haunting; it questions mans attempt to control and create nature - poignant topics of the time
    The authenticity and references in the story brought perspective to our discussion.
    I am not going to give a synopsis of the tale. We all know the gist but surprisingly enough the popular image of Frankenstein is not as documented in the book.

    Disappointingly there wasn’t a detailed description of and how the monster was created. He was however 8 foot tall could speak different languages (not sure how many?!) and graciously visited Ireland.


    We discussed the ethics and topics the book posed and it brought up subjects that seem more relevant today than would have been 190 years ago.
    Some of the interesting ones I remember

    Who is to blame for the actions of Frankenstein?
    Was Victor really the monster?
    The ethic responsibility that needs to go hand and hand with science
    Was it Victor’s responsibility to teach morals and code of ethics to his creation?

    Enough of my ramblings here is how those who attended rated it:

    TristanPeter = 8/10 Amazing original concept for its time, very well written but dialouge a little heavy. Poses interesting ethical questions..

    Sec = 7/10 Not finished yet

    Pinkshoes = 8/10 Very good. Well written and easy to read

    Pseudonym1 = looking forward to finishing it

    Mrs Ka = 6.5/10 Surprised enjoyed but wouldnt read it again - glad I did read it

    Twany = 9/10 Brillaint ideas and themes. Really made me think

    PopeBuckFastXVI = Didnt finish it, but enjoyed as far as I got

    Sorry couldnt manage the link for the pic. Overall good meeting nobody dressedup though! :(

    Think thats all. Those who didnt attend were sorely missed and see ye all Tuesday week!

    Till then
    :)
    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    Great post Pseudonym! You can do it more often :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    And...Frankenstein was a vegetarian, living on a diet of coarse foods, berries and nuts. He could also survive on less food than a human and withstand much higher extremes in temperature than a human!

    Just thought that was interesting :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    Hi Everyone,

    Just to remind you that we will be discussing Factotum by Charles Bukowski tomorrow evening at 8:00/8:30 in Bar No. 8.

    Looking forward to seeing you there :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Tawny


    Sorry for the delay in getting this done - but better late than never and all that!

    Factotum, Charles Bukowski, 11th November 2008

    Most people finished the book, and everyone enjoyed it for being something a bit different. It’s well written, easy to read and very funny when describing the situations Chinaski finds himself in.

    Factotum is an account of a drifter, drinking and working (occasionally) his way across America. Getting drunk, arrested, sacked and womanising throughout the book, it’s a life of few achievements or successes, but somehow the main character, Chinaski, seems resigned to his fate, and determined to enjoy it as much as possible.

    It sounds depressing, but in a strange way it’s quite uplifting. To see a character drift through from one strange situation or dysfunctional relationship to another, without having learned any lessons, and seemingly content to carry on, perhaps makes us all feel a little better about ourselves.

    The discussion mainly focused on Chinaski, and how he felt about his situation. He did have some motivation; his dream of becoming a writer, but otherwise seemed to quite enjoy his position as a drifter. Or perhaps he didn’t, but couldn’t quite be bothered to pick himself up and settle down to a ‘proper’ job.

    But maybe the whole point is that the idea of the ‘proper job’ doesn’t exist, it is simply what society expects of us, and through Chinaski the author is showing there is as much point and fun in having a crappy life as living the good life and the ‘American dream’.

    There’s no revelations at the end of the book, nothing has changed for Chinaski and there’s no great eureka moment where he is inspired to join society as a respectable functioning citizen. This is good, as an ending like that would have made the whole point of the book null and void.

    The group couldn’t decide what was meant by the last few lines in the book. Either it was a reflection on his life of dissipation and lethargy, or it was simply that this was just one more thing he couldn’t be bothered doing.

    TristianPeter: Brilliant book. Very funny at times but bleak also. I find it hard to know if Chinaski has a great life in the book, or a sh*t one. Perhaps both.

    Erika: I really enjoyed the book and it was an easy read and funny. Interesting to realise that there are people who have little or no ambition who seem content to drift through life.

    James:
    Best book of the two I’ve done so far for the club and it is the kind of book I’d read myself and really enjoy. The repetitive, cyclical nature of his alcoholism and wildness was refreshing because no big lesson was forced at the end. Great!

    Anne:
    Different to what I would usually read but found it all the more enjoyable because of that.

    Damien:
    Book sounds great. Definitely reading it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    I heard a short review of the film Choke on The Last Word last Thursday evening. I thought it was interesting that the woman reviewing it (from Crimealwayspays.com or Hot Press ???) said she thought that the film itself thought it was much funnier and smarter than it actually was. That's exactly how I felt about the book. The authoe was definitely trying to be to-cool-for-school. She didn't think it was a great film overall either. Still, I might go to see it just to see how it compares to the book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    Hello Everyone,


    The BookClub will be meeting this evening in Bar No.8 around 8:00/8:30 where we will be discussing Tender is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald (even though I don't have it finished yet :o ).

    Again, all new mwmbers are welcome so come along :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Yeah!! my book choice- It is heavy going to read it in 2 weeks though!
    Really hope someone has finished it as the end is the best bit - I ll bring questions and a couple of notes!

    See you all this evening :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭coconut5


    Hi everyone!

    This is Marie here, just want to say thanks for a great first meeting. Going to get my copy of 'On the Road' today and get started!

    I am now officially nominating 'Oryx and Crake' by Margaret Atwood as my book choice. It's a really good one, and it gives plenty of scope for lengthy discussions.

    Anyway, looking forward to seeing you in a fortnight, happy reading!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Ms. Ka


    Hey everyone,

    Ok, so as was revealed last night the Christmas book that we will be discussing on the 23rd of Dec. is A Christmas memory by Truman Capote. Its short and sweet and hopefully festive.

    Please bring mince pies and all things that are edible/drinkable and christmassy!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    I'll bring a turkey (I don't mean you Pope Buckfast :D).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    I'll bring a turkey (I don't mean you Pope Buckfast :D).

    Why I oughta...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Hi Guys

    We discussed "Tender is the Night" byF Scott Fitzgerald – The American author who also wrote The Great Gatsby at the last meeting.
    The book is supposedly based on Fitzgerald’s and his wife Zelda.

    The main character Dick Diver is a charming impressive physciatrist when meets Nicole Warren a wealthy heiress who is a mental patient at his clinic. They fall in love and marry.

    Whilst holidaying on the French Rivera the couple meet Rosemary – A young charming beautiful actress destined for Hollywood stardom. Rosemary falls in love with Dick and eventually Dick with Rosemary (although love is debatable). Rifts seep into the Diver’s marriage and we see the characters develop weaknesses and strengths. Dick begins drinking excessively (never a good idea when books are involved!) and loses his business and friends.
    Gradually the characters are unveiled and removed from how we first perceived them.

    Fitzgerald depicts a fabulous stylish image of the roaring 20’s –
    They live between ostentatious wealth style and glamour and in the reality of complication and heartfelt relations.

    Ending far from happy after – it unfolds into a realistic character rendering novel. It addresses many issues of the Great Gatsby- all the social trappings …. And others I can’t remember! Please add for those who can
    I loved the prose and I thought the composition was in places quite beautiful.

    Oh and Alcoholism and its effects were a memorable theme!!:p

    TristinPeter: Didn’t finish but I’d like to. I’m finding it more interesting further I get into it. Tough going though!

    Damien: Nice cover!

    Pinkshoes: Didn’t enjoy it all! :rolleyes:

    Mrs. K: Didn’t read it - probably not going to !

    Pseudonym1: (as written on the night) I liked it! Glad I chose it! Feck the begrudges! standby that

    MAire :First time here – but I ll read the next one!

    Welcome new member Maire and those who did't attend were missed

    Next book is Tuesday week On the Road by JAck Kerouac
    Then A christmas memory by Truman Copote
    Oryx and Crake by MArgeret Atwood

    Our Christmas Book club social is on the 23rd December where we will Drink and be merry

    Untill next week
    :)
    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Nice writeup Pseudonym, sorry I missed the meeting, but I didn't even come close to finishing the book... feckin work! Did pinkshoes really put down the :rolleyes: in her comment, or was that perhaps a little editorialising on behalf of the moderator hmmm? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Nope - have to be there . good book think I am the only one who really enjoyed it though!probably a bit much to get through in 2 weeks.

    Chat ya next week :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    Hello Everyone,

    BookClub will be meeting this evening around 8/8:30 to discuss Pink Shoe's nomination, On The Road by Jack Kerouac. Venue as usual is Bar No. 8.

    See you then :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Pinkshoes


    Hi guys
    I know its bad form seeing as it my book choice but I wont make it this evening. Hope ye have fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 290 ✭✭Tawny


    Hey all,

    Heres hoping you have a lovely meet tonight. I'm not gonna make it either, and the next one is very close to Christmas so I'm not sure about that one either, so see you all in 2009??

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Hey did anyone go? :( Sorry 2got dragged for booze qnd food!

    Great choice of book pinkshoes and although laboured through it at begining (and not yet finished ) enjoing it.Great to read things ordinarily would'nt . Oh ya :rolleyes: was in jest as am sure you recognised! :)

    Anyhooo all -I insist we should all make extra efoort for xmas book1 and drinks!

    Laters - hangover started


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    Hello Everyone,

    I was supposed to nominate the next book for BookClub but seeing as I have been up to my ears in study for exams, I have asked Pope Buckfast to nominate instead for me. So, as soon as I have further info. I'll post up the nomination, or Pope B will do it.

    Thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 damogood


    Galway Book Club 09–12-2008

    On the Road
    by jack Kerouac


    Hi everyone. Its great to have this opportunity to write the report for this weeks Galway Book Club meeting. Late as usual, but what do you expect? It was a great night, as usual. Not as mad as the week before I should mention. It was also Sarah’s birthday last Tuesday, so just like to say “Happy Birthday’ Sarah!

    I’m afraid I’ll have to keep this short (very). It was over 10 years ago or more when I read On the Road by Jack Kerouac. It is book I have always loved and should have read again for the book club to refresh the auld grey matter, but unfortunately wasn't’ to be. On the Road is a great American novel written in the 1950’s that came to epitomise the ‘Beat’ generation in America. It was not wrote as an ‘anti-establishment’ novel which it is often viewed as, but came more out of the authors’ quest to invent a new ‘spontaneous prose’ that reflected more the real world that the author existed in. The bulk of the novel was wrote in just 30 days, but was the culmination of 7 years of anguish and torment for the writer. kerouac struggled mainly with style and trying to find his own ‘voice’, to free himself from the influences of writers he admired such as Thomas Wolfe and FS Fitzgerald.

    Most if not all of the characters in the book are based on his real friends, with even passages of text quoted verbatim from their personal letters to him. He was to use such personal correspondence from friends as a model to base his new writing style on. The free and powerful prose style Kerouac uses gives the story an energy that thrusts the reader along the highways and by-ways crisscrossing the American continent. The language is colloquial and ‘of its’ time’, which probably makes it sound very dated now to the modern reader. It has an honesty and straight-forwardness. The narrator Sal has a strong reverence and respect for his mentors, companions and his family. This could be due to the Author’s own religious and cultural beliefs and upbringing, coming from a strong Catholic and French Canadian background.

    Kerouac never really had trouble finding material to write about, as most of it was taken from his own life and the lives of friends around him. Hard travelling, heavy drug-taking and alcoholism which devastated the narrator Sal Paradise on numerous occasions, was a major contributing factor in the author’s own early demise at the age of 47. There is no moral message about drug-taking or the consequences of a person’s actions contained in the novel. If anything, the writer wants the reader to live life and experience as much as possible. Although, I do believe the author not so much as has a change of heart at the end of the book, but comes to a great and truly sad revelation.

    On the Road has set thousands of young people on the road travelling and looking for adventure and self discovery. It is probably Keroauc’s best known novel.

    Marie: Half way through. Not really my thing, but I can see why people like it.

    Tristan-Peter: Didn't get to read it. Exams! Listened to two thirds of the audio book though. Its’ good, but also a bit annoying at times. Not finished, so cant’ really rate the book out of ten.

    Damien: For once I have actually read the book. This book might have had more of an influence on my life than I would like to think. 8/10.

    Miss Ka: Didn't’ finish the book, but seemed to be interesting enough.

    Looking forward to the next book club on the 23rd. Should be very good. I hope the Christmas book ‘A Christmas Memory’ by Truman Capote (who had bad things to say about Keroauc's style of writing) is a short one, because I haven't’ started it yet. Hopefully see ye all there...
    Damogood


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭coconut5


    Great report Damien. I am nearly finished the book now, it's getting a bit 'Requiem for a Dream' on me now, with everyone falling to pieces, but I've actually really gotten into it.

    And on a completely separate note, I watched Wall-E at the weekend, best film ever! I highly recommend it to everyone. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭pseudonym1


    Nice review Damo- Thanks a mill had a great day/night/hangover.
    Yep ought to be a merry Christmas book club.

    oh - Extra luck for Tristianpeter and Pinkshoes in their exams.

    :)
    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    Fantastic Writeup Damo!

    OK all as you may have read earlier TristanP wants me to pick a book in his stead, as he is busy with exams, so after some deliberation I'd like to pick:

    'Slaughterhouse 5' by Kurt Vonnegut
    Amazon Link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TristanPeter


    pseudonym1 wrote: »
    Nice review Damo- Thanks a mill had a great day/night/hangover.
    Yep ought to be a merry Christmas book club.

    oh - Extra luck for Tristianpeter and Pinkshoes in their exams.

    :)
    ;)

    Thanks Pseudonym. Only 2 to go!

    By the way, whoever is attending the Christmas BookClub meeting next Tuesday, don't forget to bring something festive (hopefully the staff will allow us to brring in some food?). Leave the cars at home too so that we can have a bit of an ould session :)

    Great review Damo. I like the Truman Capote tie-in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Ms. Ka


    "I hope the Christmas book ‘A Christmas Memory’ by Truman Capote"

    Its really short as its a short story rather than a book so hopefully everyone can get to finish it in time for next meeting.
    I think Marie said that she found it on the web, it so short you could just print it off.


    Good review too!


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