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Samsung 55”UE55HU6900 Ultra HD tv 4K

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    Wow, nice choice, 65" must be a killer. Keep us posted. I was thinking of 55HU7500, but considering lack of 4K content decided to go for cheaper version for the moment, hopefully the "one connect" can later be upgraded to do what 7500 does. Did you buy in store?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 cyklo


    FYI Samsung has released firmware update 1003.0 (28th May 2014)
    Sadly, I can not find any changelog or information about improvements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Denisoftus wrote: »
    Wow, nice choice, 65" must be a killer. Keep us posted. I was thinking of 55HU7500, but considering lack of 4K content decided to go for cheaper version for the moment, hopefully the "one connect" can later be upgraded to do what 7500 does. Did you buy in store?

    From what I read, the one connect box is upgradable. The HU7500 is equipped to use any future one connect box also, so that was a big selling point for me too. Samsung seem to be the only manufacturer with a clear upgrade path for customers.

    I bought in power city. Got a good discount on it too. Went to all the main dealers to try and get the lowest price possible by playing them off each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    techdiver wrote: »
    Got a good discount on it too.

    Just out of curiosity, can you reveal how much did you get it for, no worries if you can't :) I was bargaining with power city re UE8500, curved one, and only got €180 drop, which makes it still too expensive for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    cyklo wrote: »
    FYI Samsung has released firmware update 1003.0 (28th May 2014)

    Which TV are you referring to?
    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 cyklo


    UE55HU6900
    I can not post link , but it's easy to find.

    BTW for those who have 4k tellys equipped with HEVC and want some 4k content, there is a test FTA satellite transmission

    Eutelsat Hot Bird 13C (13,0°E)
    tp. 121 (10,930 GHz, pol. H, SR: 27500, FEC: 2/3; DVB-S2/8PSK)

    ID: 4kTV HEVC 50 fps
    PID V: 257 (HEVC/UHDTV)
    PID A: 258 (AAC)
    PID PCR: 257
    SID: 1
    PID PMT: 256

    3840x2160 (50 fps), 16:9, Video bitrate 29,6 Mbit/s
    Audio 256 kbit/s, stereo, ADTS AAC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    cyklo wrote: »
    UE55HU6900
    I can not post link , but it's easy to find.

    BTW for those who have 4k tellys equipped with HEVC and want some 4k content, there is a test FTA satellite transmission

    Eutelsat Hot Bird 13C (13,0°E)
    tp. 121 (10,930 GHz, pol. H, SR: 27500, FEC: 2/3; DVB-S2/8PSK)

    ID: 4kTV HEVC 50 fps
    PID V: 257 (HEVC/UHDTV)
    PID A: 258 (AAC)
    PID PCR: 257
    SID: 1
    PID PMT: 256

    3840x2160 (50 fps), 16:9, Video bitrate 29,6 Mbit/s
    Audio 256 kbit/s, stereo, ADTS AAC

    Some bit rate.

    Reminds me of the BBC HD trial channel when it first started, the bit rate was that high and the picture quality was far superior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭johnj1969


    techdiver wrote: »
    I just pulled the trigger and bought the UE65HU7500.

    Should have it in 2 weeks. I will update you all when I get it with a report.

    It has gotten great reviews across the board. The avforums review even states that it is plasma like in its contrast and screen uniformity with excellent black levels.

    http://www.whathifi.com/review/samsung-ue65hu7500

    http://www.avforums.com/review/samsung-ue-55-48-65-hu7500-4k-ultra-hd-led-television-review.10361

    http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue55hu7500-201405083761.htm
    Fair play & congrats on your new TV: Looks the dogs, nice one.;) The days of Pioneer LX50/6090 & KRP 500/600 owners saying their 6-7 year old Pioneer Kuro are still better than todays TVs are long gone. Panasonic have been putting out better ST/VT & ZT for the last couple of years. There was actually a time in 2008 when Sonys W4500/Z4500 LCD range came close to the Kuro in almost every dept, although they had a bad batch of S-PVA panels which clouded the situation shall we say...

    No doubt it was the killer TV was the Kuro & fully deserves its legendary classic status.

    I don't own a 4k screen at the moment, but i'm sure Netflix 4k must be amazing quality. Even 1080p converted to Youtube 4k looks truly stunning on my 1080p panel, using the oppo blu-ray picture processor. Its streets ahead of any other picture source i own for colour & detail, & thats 4k down converted to 1080p. It will surely be a huge step forward esp. when content becomes readily available & TBH I would love native 4k blu-ray movies if it happens. Tell me then theres not much difference between 2k & 4k...

    Of course the marketing hype behind it is over-hype but if they are investing billions on getting these TVs to the market of course they are going to say they are made of gold.

    I'm really looking forward to a nice 4k tv when they become more pocket friendly. Eventually i would love a 4k projector though, that would be my killer display!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you have received the set and managed to use Netflix 4K? I'm getting reports it doesn't work yet on any UHD samsung sets, also some Panasonics affected. And how's 24p playback after all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Denisoftus wrote: »
    Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you have received the set and managed to use Netflix 4K? I'm getting reports it doesn't work yet on any UHD samsung sets, also some Panasonics affected. And how's 24p playback after all?

    My 65" 7500 is due to arrive on Saturday. I'll report back on netflix. From reading the online forums netflix works fine on the 7500 and 8500, but according to reviews of the 6900, it has been removed due to issues.

    I'll update the thread when I receive mine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    techdiver wrote: »
    I bought in power city. Got a good discount on it too. Went to all the main dealers to try and get the lowest price possible by playing them off each other.
    thumbs up to this, NEVER pay list price for anything, you'll almost always get a discount on practically any electronics if you barter a bit and get better prices from other retailers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    techdiver wrote: »
    My 65" 7500 is due to arrive on Saturday. I'll report back on netflix. From reading the online forums netflix works fine on the 7500 and 8500, but according to reviews of the 6900, it has been removed due to issues.

    I'll update the thread when I receive mine.

    Cheers mate, also I would like to hear about viewing angle and black levels, after being using plasma in this room for 3 years, I'm very suspicious, thought all the reviews and reports say F9000 has almost reference level for viewing angle and black level, I still think its not the case :), bearing in mind LED will never come close to plasma black/angels - I'm comparing with my other Panasonic 42" LED.

    The only think I must agree with all the reviews Motion Clarity, even with Motion - OFF still it is much better then my other 42" Panny, almost as good as plasmas.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    johnj1969 wrote: »
    Fair play & congrats on your new TV: Looks the dogs, nice one.;) The days of Pioneer LX50/6090 & KRP 500/600 owners saying their 6-7 year old Pioneer Kuro are still better than todays TVs are long gone. Panasonic have been putting out better ST/VT & ZT for the last couple of years. There was actually a time in 2008 when Sonys W4500/Z4500 LCD range came close to the Kuro in almost every dept, although they had a bad batch of S-PVA panels which clouded the situation shall we say...

    As an owner of a Pioneer LX5090, who has been looking to upgrade to a 60 or 65" TV I have to respectively disagree.

    Not willing to step back in picture quality for larger size, I've been desperately reading reviews of every high end "reference" TV and checking them out in person myself. Unfortunately non come close to matching my 6 year Pioneers.

    The Panasonic ST/VT come close, but they still don't have quite the same deep blacks, nor the same overall build quality.

    I've sadly come to the conclusion that I will just have to wait for OLED to go mainstream and come down in price before a TV comes out that matches my Pio and I can upgrade.

    On the other hand I suppose I'm lucky to have bought such a superb TV, that has lasted so well and so long, something unique in the electronics industry.

    But it also shows how bad the TV industry is, focused on selling cheap crap and focused on selling marketing gimmicks like curved TV's, smart TV's over quality :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    bk wrote: »
    something unique in the electronics industry.

    My 20 years old Thomson 14" CRT TV, my first colour one, still works well in my father-in-law's shed :) Some electronics are last forever :), but we change them 10 times quicker then theirs life-span.

    I looked at the Pan. 50gt60b (HDTVTest gave it "Reference Level") in store and wasn't really impressed, but I have heard many times about this mysterious Pioneer plasma which isn't possible to buy anymore for like 5 years? I wish I was in the market of top of the range TVs 6 years ago :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭rightman


    I find this thread very interesting and informative too.

    I have to say something I noticed myself here. As I'm currently looking for a 55" TV I'm familiar with current models (and legends too).

    I was convinced to buy Panasonic VT 55" and realized that I can't afford to have the bloody thing left up and running for the whole day - this is how it is being used at my place. It is like 300W sucking the meter allnday long compared to 70-80W for modern LED. The difference in the cost of running it will buy me some quality time with my family watching movies in a REAL cinema ☺
    My 6 yo 39" Sony LCD was also award winning at the time and cost me over a 1000e. It makes sense to go for some top products that will give you for example 4 x HDMI ports and no 1 or 2 like other "pro" models. The only pain is 12 months warranty on some TVs - joke like for a 1.5K purchase...

    My mother in law says: "Cheap things are not for poor people". 😅


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Denisoftus wrote: »
    My 20 years old Thomson 14" CRT TV, my first colour one, still works well in my father-in-law's shed :) Some electronics are last forever :), but we change them 10 times quicker then theirs life-span.

    The point is not that it still works (my parents have a 40 year old TV that still works!) the point is that the picture quality offered by this TV, 7 years later, is still superior to any TV made today.

    Usually technology advances and gets better. That hasn't happened in the TV industry. TV's did get cheaper, but the quality of the picture they deliver hasn't improved in 7 years!

    They have improved in other ways, getting cheaper and more energy efficient, but picture quality hasn't improved and that is the most important thing a TV is supposed to do.
    rightman wrote: »
    The only pain is 12 months warranty on some TVs - joke like for a 1.5K purchase...

    My Pioneer came with a 5 year guarantee, you are right, you pay for high quality and service, it was an expensive TV.

    However FYI, under Irish consumer law, a product is supposed to last as long as is typical for that product category.

    I know someone whose Sony TV broke after 5 years, Sony wouldn't repair it, he brought it to the small claims court and won, Sony replaced it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Rsaeire


    bk wrote: »
    ...the point is that the picture quality offered by this TV, 7 years later, is still superior to any TV made today.

    That's not quite true as both Samsung and LG's OLED TVs have been reported to surpass even the might Kuro with Panasonic's 2014 Plasma range beating the Pioneer in a number of areas too.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Rsaeire wrote: »
    That's not quite true as both Samsung and LG's OLED TVs have been reported to surpass even the might Kuro with Panasonic's 2014 Plasma range beating the Pioneer in a number of areas too.

    Haha, you are right, these two OLED TV's finally (after 7 years!) surpass the Pioneer. But then they cost €8600 and €10000 respectively!!

    That is a hell of a lot more then €2000 I paid for my Pioneer. Also the Pioneer surpasses both of these TV's in one important area, gaming. The Pioneer has superb low lag, while these two TV's have unacceptably high lag for gaming.

    Also they are disappointingly curved TV's a very bad thing IMO.

    So yes, OLED will finally surpass Pioneer, us enthusiasts have always known that, but it looks like there are still a few snags to work out of OLED (lag) and a lot of price reduction to come yet.

    OELD still looks to be 4 to 5 years off from coming down to a reasonable price where it can replace my Pioneer. My patient wait goes on. The Kuro really was the best purchase I've ever made. Hell I could sell it second hand now and actually make a profit!!

    As for the Panasonics, yes they certainly are the best "reasonably" priced TV you can currently buy, but they aren't quite better then the Pioneers, which have deeper blacks still and go brighter, so they would be a questionable "upgrade" for a person who already has a Pioneer. But well worth pointing them out to anyone looking to buy a new TV. They are superb.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    For those interested, I just came across a shoutout (they were all in the same room) of all the top TV's (Plasma, OLED, 4K LEDs) currently available:

    http://www.whathifi.com/forum/tvs-and-projectors/the-ultimate-shoot-out?page=3#comment-2966526

    Unsurprisingly, the Panasonic 1080P Plasma came out on top, easily beating the 4K TV sets and even beating the OLED (which in fairness has better picture quality, but overall is still a bit buggy).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭techdiver


    bk wrote: »
    For those interested, I just came across a shoutout (they were all in the same room) of all the top TV's (Plasma, OLED, 4K LEDs) currently available:

    http://www.whathifi.com/forum/tvs-and-projectors/the-ultimate-shoot-out?page=3#comment-2966526

    Unsurprisingly, the Panasonic 1080P Plasma came out on top, easily beating the 4K TV sets and even beating the OLED (which in fairness has better picture quality, but overall is still a bit buggy).

    Well my Sammy (HU7500) came third behind a plasma and an OLED, so that's a respectable result. I'm glad I didn't spring for the curved one as it is 1K more expensive and doesn't seem to perform as well as the flat one.

    Regarding the comment of netlfix not "popping", I wouldn't really expect it to pop like a true 4K source due to compression. My current experience of Netflix 1080p is the same in comparison to blu-ray. I would still bet netflix 4k beats netflix 1080p. I will test this when I get the set. :D

    Also I would bet with true 4K source (not just pretty demos) it would score far higher and since I bought the TV to last me a good number of years I will bet that the availability of 4K material will increase over time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 cyklo


    Did anybody get tracking number or tv delivered?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dos29


    cyklo wrote: »
    Did anybody get tracking number or tv delivered?

    Got in touch with DHL to arrange meeting delivery, no info without tracking number. Mailed ibood for tracking number and got auto response of "we'll get back to you in 1-2 days"
    Bit messy to dispatch without sending tracking numbers- that is if there IS any and it IS dhl.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 cyklo


    Good news. I just got a tv delivered 15 minutes ago, but no warning call from dhl crowd beforehand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    cyklo wrote: »
    Good news. I just got a tv delivered 15 minutes ago, but no warning call from dhl crowd beforehand.

    Waiting on your feedback mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dos29


    Raging. Missed delivery by 20 minutes. All I got was a slip to say I wasn't home and an empty voicemail from courier, who won't now answer to me or DHL. Fcuk sake- is it too much for a courier to ring ahead? Specially with an oversized package like this?
    Also poor show from iBood. Tracking numbers assigned and they can't even get them out to customers? I'd be less pissed if they weren't tracked!
    Have to wait til Monday now.
    TV forever tainted!
    Rant over.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    dos29, if you have a big enough car, I think you can collect it directly from DHL facility somewhere around long mile road, if I remember correctly, on Saturday, which saves you two days waiting. I hope you have your tracking number now, you will need it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    Hey guys, any feedback yet :) I can't wait to check what I missed :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭rightman


    Hi there,
    There is another UHD Samsung TV on offer from iBood - every region except Ireland again!

    Copy this to your address bar =>
    ibood.com/extra-de/de/

    It is Samsung 55 " LED-Smart-TV-UHD (Typ: UE55HU7500).

    If you know how to use a cheap courier from France, Belgium, Germany etc it might be a good value at 1699e.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 cyklo


    Is is possible to order from ibood.de with ROI address?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    Its an extra €500 than the original offer plus extra postage to Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Barr wrote: »
    Its an extra €500 than the original offer plus extra postage to Ireland.

    It's a vastly superior set than the HU6900.


  • Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭rightman


    techdiver wrote: »
    It's a vastly superior set than the HU6900.

    Exactly
    In this case it is you get what you pay for.

    Regarding the courier I know companies transporting TVs like this from 70e up...
    It can be sent from Germany, Netherlands, Poland (every courier has their own list of origin countries they serve) and extra insurance is also available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    Hey owners of 6900, can you share your opinion on the set please, how does it handle 24p, any issues with black, motion blur?
    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    Some UHD tests on Eutelsat already up, needs HEVC

    http://www.eutelsat.com/en/services/broadcast/ultra-hd-channel.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dos29


    I am moving into a new build soon, so had been watching ibood for tv offers for a long while for a 50/55 incher but nothing seemed to be coming.
    Was looking at a clearance model 55F6400 in harvey norman for €1100 the week before this came up, but had decided on a 50H6400 for about €950 and was about to order the day the ibood came out.
    Grabbed the 55HU6900 and have to say, delighted with it. I'm no pro when it comes to tv's but as far as I can see the HD absolute crystal and I see no issues with SD. Problems listed like moving images falling apart and soap opera effect are things I haven't noticed. Watching some of the world cup, if I really look for it I can see a bit of trailing with VERY fast movement, but generally I'm not gonna notice this.
    The issue with 24p is with blu ray if I'm not mistaken? Don't have one hooked up yet, so haven't looked into it.
    Smart wise I don't have internet hooked up yet either so can't judge really, also having never had a smart tv before.
    The menu didn't have Ireland to select as country, but saorview works on whichever I put it on, Finland I think. There is an update for the software but I couldn't download it when I hooked up to my phones hotspot.
    The manual does say it has the ability to be upgraded with an evolution kit, so thats another bonus I wasn't expecting.
    Obviously haven't watched anything UHD yet, but it's nice to know I can once it goes more mainstream.
    For the price, your not gonna get an all singing all dancing top shelf UHD tv. They say its only a bargain if you were gonna buy it anyway, and this is so far above what I was gonna get for similar money, I consider it a complete bargain. Those in the market for the all singing all dancing like the 7500/8500 are obviously going to have to pay more, which I couldn't.
    Only real thing I'm anyway not happy with is iboods service. I posted already on the delivery issue, but iboods "uncontactability" is sbsurd. One of the emails received after ordering refers to a UK plug being included. I only got a European one. Sent an email querying over a week ago and once again I'm hearing nothing back.
    Have others received a UK lead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dos29


    I am moving into a new build soon, so had been watching ibood for tv offers for a long while for a 50/55 incher but nothing seemed to be coming.
    Was looking at a clearance model 55F6400 in harvey norman for €1100 the week before this came up, but had decided on a 50H6400 for about €950 and was about to order the day the ibood came out.
    Grabbed the 55HU6900 and have to say, delighted with it. I'm no pro when it comes to tv's but as far as I can see the HD absolute crystal and I see no issues with SD. Problems listed like moving images falling apart and soap opera effect are things I haven't noticed. Watching some of the world cup, if I really look for it I can see a bit of trailing with VERY fast movement, but generally I'm not gonna notice this.
    The issue with 24p is with blu ray if I'm not mistaken? Don't have one hooked up yet, so haven't looked into it.
    Smart wise I don't have internet hooked up yet either so can't judge really, also having never had a smart tv before.
    The menu didn't have Ireland to select as country, but saorview works on whichever I put it on, Finland I think. There is an update for the software but I couldn't download it when I hooked up to my phones hotspot.
    The manual does say it has the ability to be upgraded with an evolution kit, so thats another bonus I wasn't expecting.
    Obviously haven't watched anything UHD yet, but it's nice to know I can once it goes more mainstream.
    For the price, your not gonna get an all singing all dancing top shelf UHD tv. They say its only a bargain if you were gonna buy it anyway, and this is so far above what I was gonna get for similar money, I consider it a complete bargain. Those in the market for the all singing all dancing like the 7500/8500 are obviously going to have to pay more, which I couldn't.
    Only real thing I'm anyway not happy with is iboods service. I posted already on the delivery issue, but iboods "uncontactability" is sbsurd. One of the emails received after ordering refers to a UK plug being included. I only got a European one. Sent an email querying over a week ago and once again I'm hearing nothing back.
    Have others received a UK lead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭techdiver


    Hey,

    I thought I'd just share my experience of the UE65HU7500 here.

    I received the set a couple of weeks ago and set it up in no time. The TV did have the WOW factor and the picture was fabulous on HD and blu-ray, and even coped admirably with SD, considering the amount of pixels it had to make up. 1080p movies were up-scaled excellently also. Black levels were fantastic.

    I was truly chuffed with it and when if was fed with 4K content like House of Cards on Netflix, it really stood out. I will state for the record now that 4K does improve over 1080p and it is a visible difference.

    Unfortunately the fairytale ended when watching sport (the world cup), where I noticed some of the dreaded vertical banding. Once I noticed it it got "worse" (i.e. I knew it was there and it was distracting). I immediatley contacted Samsung, who after two calls told me to request a replacement form my retailer, which I did.

    A couple of days later, my replacement arrived an the "old" one was removed. Once again I set it up and put on the world cup again to test and low and behold this replacement set was significantly worse than the first one. I'm talking at least 7 - 8 visible line in motion shots across the entire screen! I was crest fallen as, apart from the banding issue, this set is amazing!

    I did all the usual grey scale tests and that really showed the issue to the fullest extent. I have now returned the second one and am contemplating what to do. I'm amazed that so many years down the line, that manufacturers still release TV's with such bad vertical banding. I know it's a lottery at times, but I don't want that when spending the guts of €4,000 on a TV!

    What to do, what to do??:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    The TV has come up again on this site for £999, not sure how it would work with parcel motel etc

    http://www.sonicdirect.co.uk/4K-Ultra-HD-TVs/Samsung-UE55HU6900-55-4K-Ultra-HD-Smart-LED-TV-200Hz-Freeview-HD?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    techdiver wrote: »
    What to do, what to do??:confused:

    Quick, get a Panasonic Plasma before supplies all dry up!

    This is what I've been trying to tell people all throughout this thread. LED/LCD, even, 4k TV, are far inferior to a good plasma.

    Yes, it is incredibly sad how bad the TV industry is and how there are more interested in selling inferior technology and focusing on immature features like 3D, Smart TV, curved TV and now 4k for purely marketing purposes, over quality.

    Spend your money on a quality plasma, plasmas have by far the best picture quality, while also having the best SD upconverting and superb for sports and gaming due to low lag, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭techdiver


    bk wrote: »
    Quick, get a Panasonic Plasma before supplies all dry up!

    This is what I've been trying to tell people all throughout this thread. LED/LCD, even, 4k TV, are far inferior to a good plasma.

    Yes, it is incredibly sad how bad the TV industry is and how there are more interested in selling inferior technology and focusing on immature features like 3D, Smart TV, curved TV and now 4k for purely marketing purposes, over quality.

    Spend your money on a quality plasma, plasmas have by far the best picture quality, while also having the best SD upconverting and superb for sports and gaming due to low lag, etc.

    There have been plenty of cases of vertical banding with plasma's too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Rsaeire


    I think the point bk is trying to make is that the 2014 Panasonic plasma TVs are currently the best TVs available. Also, it doesn't say a lot that you've had two of the same TV and they've both had the same issue, albeit the 2nd being worse than the 1st. I wouldn't put much faith in the 3rd being much better.

    With that said, whatever choice you make, let us know how you get on :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 cyklo


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    Rsaeire wrote: »
    I think the point bk is trying to make is that the 2014 Panasonic plasma TVs are currently the best TVs available.
     
    There is no such a thing as 2014 Panasonic plasma tv as Panasonic has ceased production of plasma TV's last year. Perhaps you're talking about 2013 Panasonic's plasma TV's.
    Speaking about Samsung 55HU6900 as  user I can confirm that is quite Ok as for an entry model. UHD and FHD content looks stunning, unless there is a heavy grain in the picture . As Samsung used 60 Hz LCD panel, fast moving objects can seem a little blurry. There is no advanced de-blurring system implemented. In Motion Plus Menu you'll find only LED Clear Motion Mode (kind of BFI ??) along with de-judder (Off, Standard,Smooth and Custom mode, adjustable in 10 steps ), however both functions can not work simultaneously.
    Measured contrast is 2400 (factory settings ) and 3000 after calibration, which is not too bad for   LED entry model, but it's far behind the last Panasonic's plasma tellys. In this field cheaper Samsung UE55H6400 scores astonishingly 4000/4500, reaching the level of contrast reserved until now only for the best LED premium models.
    Undoubtedly,  the best feature of UE55HU6900 is its SMART Hub along with the multimedia player which can play almost anything and make your streamer redundant . It's able to decode m2ts, mkv files with DD , DTS and DTS-MA (core), switching between subtitles and audio streams muxed -in (if file is played from LAN,  subject to DLNA server compatibility/settings) and most important, files encoded with x.265/h.265 codecs.
    Personally I think is a little bit to early for 4k tv and  model H6400 will be better choice for your money. Unless you're a geek who wants to test or use tv as a 4k monitor ( Lag 46ms). The latest Nvidia drivers allows to set 4k resolution trough the HDMI 2.0 although only  with 8-bit colour space, regardless description. But again 55" it's a bit to big for monitor while 40" model is a little bit pricey, especially in a wake of cheap Chinese monitors European expansion. Seiki has  just announced the second generation 4k TV's and 4k monitors.

    edit: I'm sorry, I was posting on small tablet and as it's always been a challenge for me,
    somehow I've missed important part.
    There should be: the latest Nvidia drivers allow to work with 4k resolution at 60 Hz through the HDMI and this TV can do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    cyklo wrote: »
    the best feature of UE55HU6900 is its SMART Hub along with the multimedia player which can play almost anything and make your streamer redundant

    And same time the worse feature of this and others Smart Hub enabled Samsung TVs. It will not let you fast forward, skip to, anything but pause/play doesn't work - which makes it completely useless for me as I never watch a movie without an interruption :))))) Some people probably don't care if they have time to watch a movie/home video from the start to the end uninterrupted.

    I will stick with my old "dinosaur" popcorn hour, until samsung implements this features


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Rsaeire


    cyklo wrote: »
     
    There is no such a thing as 2014 Panasonic plasma tv as Panasonic has ceased production of plasma TV's last year. Perhaps you're talking about 2013 Panasonic's plasma TV's.

    Yes, I meant to say 2013.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    Plasmas have prons and cons same as LEDs, OLEDs, LCD. Some people likes plasmas some LED, I have had LG plasma for 4 years and its cons I started to hate recently, "burn in effect" became unbearable to see, especially after PS4 game left on pause for a while, dither I started to notice even from the distance; now with all LED cons I still prefer LED vs Plasma. You can't expect everyone like plasmas. I think the future is OLED and if you have budget for it this is a TV to choose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 cyklo


    Denisoftus wrote: »
    And same time the worse feature of this and others Smart Hub enabled Samsung TVs. It will not let you fast forward, skip to, anything but pause/play doesn't work - which makes it completely useless for me as I never watch a movie without an interruption :))))) Some people probably don't care if they have time to watch a movie/home video from the start to the end uninterrupted.

    I will stick with my old "dinosaur" popcorn hour, until samsung implements this features

    You're completly wrong about this. You can FF to any moment . Single press will give you 10sec jump but you can press and hold or simply catch the time progress indicator and drag it to the point which you're looking for. Also it can work with chapters if the played file has muxed-in meta data. Searching in Netflix or YouTube applications is easier as it allows you to see picture frame on the time scale, like in PS3 playback. If you don't like to control playback with a new gyroscope RC you can use tablet or smartphone. You can find a few apps which will allow you to do this. There is even application DSVideo for Synology's NAS users
    Btw I did not mean to praise Samsung player, as using it obviously is not convenient as using any well developed standalone NMT's such as PCH or Dune, but none of these can play HEVC or 4k files :). In these field Samsung is winning with the other brands. Superior Panasonic 800series can't do this, not mention it has no Netflix. The other 4k tv's can't play at the moment TV-Sat 4k HEVC streams on their own without using external equipment. This makes Samsung's HU tv's special.

    Edit: BTW I'm a plasma lover. Watching movies only on PJ or plasma, and using LCD''s only for watching television, playing games or in the bedroom. But for the last couple of weeks I'm using this one for movies as well and I'm not unhappy about this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭Sam Mac


    cyklo wrote: »
    You're completly wrong about this. You can FF to any moment . Single press will give you 10sec jump but you can press and hold or simply catch the time progress indicator and drag it to the point which you're looking for. Also it can work with chapters if the played file has muxed-in meta data. Searching in Netflix or YouTube applications is easier as it allows you to see picture frame on the time scale, like in PS3 playback. If you don't like to control playback with a new gyroscope RC you can use tablet or smartphone. You can find a few apps which will allow you to do this. There is even application DSVideo for Synology's NAS users
    Btw I did not mean to praise Samsung player, as using it obviously is not convenient as using any well developed standalone NMT's such as PCH or Dune, but none of these can play HEVC or 4k files :). In these field Samsung is winning with the other brands. Superior Panasonic 800series can't do this, not mention it has no Netflix. The other 4k tv's can't play at the moment TV-Sat 4k HEVC streams on their own without using external equipment. This makes Samsung's HU tv's special.

    Edit: BTW I'm a plasma lover. Watching movies only on PJ or plasma, and using LCD''s only for watching television, playing games or in the bedroom. But for the last couple of weeks I'm using this one for movies as well and I'm not unhappy about this.

    I have the 55inch 2013 VT65 Panny plasma, and its good, but I do have issues with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 cyklo


    Sam Mac
    Do you want to swap? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭Sam Mac


    cyklo wrote: »
    Sam Mac
    Do you want to swap? ;)

    Looking to sell it, throw me a PM if interested


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Denisoftus


    cyklo wrote: »
    You're completly wrong about this. You can FF to any moment . Single press will give you 10sec jump but you can press and hold or simply catch the time progress indicator and drag it to the point which you're looking for.

    Maybe it improved in 2014 model, I have 2013 F9000 and I cannot do anything with the movie (mp4 downloaded from youtube) but pause or play. Also same with my home videos recorded with Sony Handycam.

    When I get 2014 evolution kit, which will upgrade my TV to 2014 models, I will let you know if it changed. I hope it will, very irritating to watch movies like that :)

    And of course you right, none of my media boxes, PCH or Apple TV can play any of UHD content, I will rely on tele for that, thought none still available to play :)

    By the way, does 4K Netflix work on your set?


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