Future Merc Ringer

johnos1984 · 16-02-2012 9:26pm

f4fay wrote: »

johnos1984 wrote: »

I suppose the rest of us who try and highlight people damaging the classic car scene in Ireland should go stand in the corner and hang our heads in shame then?

I highlighted what appeared to be something shabby taking place. Also I don't understand why he would buy a car like this and then scrap it for very little.

Too much here doesn't make sense

Sorry but that's how it appears to me

It Really does'nt matter how it appears to you !!!! I dont condone people ringing cars but i think the acquisations that are made by certain people on here are disgraseful and as i've said before it is bringing unwanted attention and before anyone comes back with do we just ignore it ? NO but get some facts and not just what appears to you !!!! before a thread heading like Future Merc Ringer is displayed !!!

The fact is he bought a merc he claims is dodgy and he is now selling it minus it's papers.

He is even going to have it scrapped now.

I know the car and it wasn't dodgy. It's funny how he supplies nothing to the contrary other than his word. Not a pic nothing.

He is just going to clean up the classic scene by buying one car at a time and scrapping them if they are ringers

Tzar Chasm · 16-02-2012 10:07pm

That's the point I was trying to make, the photos on done deal make the car seem very tidy I can see no rust anywhere in them

If matt were to simply post some photos of the rust which led him to decide on scrapping the car this whole thing could be quickly put to rest

galwaytt · 16-02-2012 10:39pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

Wha? I have a great name thank you very much;)

Indeed you do: it took me a few saying-it-out-louds to twig it !

unkel · 16-02-2012 11:58pm

carchaeologist wrote: »

Hello Matt, and since no one has said it already because of all the banter welcome to boards. Don't be too put off by all this chat on this particular thread, ringing cars is a subject dear to our hearts on here and we tend to get fairly animated about it sometimes..
Usually we all get along just fine!!:D
We would appriciate your 70+ years of motoring experience and knowledge of all things W123 if you wish to stick around for a bit!

+1

Well said, and welcome, Matt.

Jammy Donut · 17-02-2012 1:03am

Just a quick question, What colour is the car? Can't find it on any charts/

mattroche · 17-02-2012 2:04am

Thank you TZAR, but my photographic skills are very limited, but I will try to put them on Done Deal over the next few days. However, if anyone wishes to examine the car on MON.20th at my house they are more than welcome, provided they phone first and make an appointement, with a proper name and phone NO. to satisfy themselves that the car as bad as I have said. Now, either PUT UP OR SHUT UP. Have a nice day

johnos1984 · 17-02-2012 2:18am

mattroche wrote: »

to satisfy themselves that the car as bad as I have said. Now, either PUT UP OR SHUT UP. Have a nice day

Are you trying to turn this thread into an ad?

The car was fine and isn't scrap. You took pictures for donedeal so take a few to help yourself here. Where is the corrosion? How bad is it? How much to fix it?
With your experience of buying and selling them you should of easily spotted that before buying

And why should anybody shut up? I'm certain I've grabbed you by the short and curlies with this thread.........

mattroche · 17-02-2012 2:38am

Hi UNKEL, I may be 70, and I know the many of the comments quoted are probably libel, but its like water off a ducks back, what do I care what other people, whom I do not know think about me? Again I would like to state that I am NO EXPERT on classic cars, just enjoy dabbling in them,and going to various rallys during the Summer, it is great fun, nearly as good as responding to various comments about me, GOOD and BAD on BOARDS. I hope all you Classic Car bods will get away from your P.C. and go out and have some fun at these Rallys during the summer. If I can be of any help,in this regard, please contact me, or you can get Irish Vintage Scene from most good newsagents every Month, where you will get everything that is going on. Please, have a nice day, otherwise be miserible all day!! Go on, SMILE for a change, it will reduce your blood pressure!

johnos1984 · 17-02-2012 2:50am

mattroche wrote: »

Hi UNKEL, I may be 70, and I know the many of the comments quoted are probably libel!

Show me one

mattroche · 17-02-2012 2:52am

Hi Johnos, there is an old saying, " when you are in a hole, STOP DIGGING. so I suggest you stop digging.

johnos1984 · 17-02-2012 2:57am

mattroche wrote: »

Hi Johnos, there is an old saying, " when you are in a hole, STOP DIGGING. so I suggest you stop digging.

I've asked a simple question. What has been said that is libilous?

Nothing. Nobody, including me has accused you of ringing cars. I hilightedthe reg number could appear again and that the car is in better shape than you claim.

Good luck Matt

Just to add: a cheaper way then hiring a solicitor is to ask a mod to lock or delete the thread

Jammy Donut · 17-02-2012 4:22am

Anyway I do hope what you are saying is true and that useful parts will be used and the rest along with the book scraped.

BUT how can you scrap a car with a non matching book? How can the original car be declared as scraped when in reality its not the one meeting the crusher and the original could be undergoing resto right now?

I don't understand that bit, would it not be illegal to issue a destruction cert when the car is not destroyed by the person issuing the cert?

Not having a go just a genuine question.

thewintermute · 17-02-2012 9:41am

I normally just lurk on here, but I feel it's only right to decloak as I think it's a little unfair to cast so much doubt on Matts motives with so little information to back it up.I've looked at a couple of W123s that looked pretty sweet (One barn find springs to mind) but on closer inspection I found places I could put my hand right through that were eaten by the tinworms.So I'm prepared to believe Matts version, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary.I don't approve of ringing and I don't like seeing cars being scrapped either. I fail to see how Matt could be making a lot of money from his hobby and wish him luck with it.

davoxx · 17-02-2012 11:40am

if it was a ringer, should the gardai not be involved?

johnos1984 · 17-02-2012 12:05pm

I've contacted the last two owners:

The owner Matt bought it from has given a word for word account identical to Matts

The one before it who recommissioned it years ago has given a word for word rebuff of the other two accounts.

It would appear Matt's version adds up.........but I make no apologies for highlighting the issue that I and he, both claim to dislike.

Big Nasty · 17-02-2012 12:30pm

mattroche wrote: »

Hi MCMLXXV, What part of taking the Car AND Tax Book out of Circulation do you not understand? You still have NOT answered my question, what would you do under the same circumstances? I am NEW to Boards .IE. I am curious, did your Parent give you such HORRIBLE NAMES that you are embarrased to use them, and use anonynous names instead. My Name is nothing special, but I am quite happto use it.

I think you're confusing me with someone who gives a fcuk another poster as 'then why did you buy it' was my first comment on this thread.

bbsrs · 17-02-2012 12:36pm

johnos1984 wrote: »

Hey folks,

I'm keeping this here for future viewers.

This car was sold by my neighbour about a week ago. I never said anything at the time as the car isn't to my tastes. the reg number is 831 BZD

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/vintagecars/2932740

Now the car has appeared for sale minus it's plates and logbook :rolleyes: which are staying with it's new owner

I know for a fact the car was actually sound although not original everything could have easily been reversed.

Here is the car now

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/vintagecars/3007381

So whenever Matt Roche goes to sell his original Irish Merc we'll be able to here it RINGING alarm bells in our heads

Things like this make me ****ing sick that an ORIGINAL car is scrapped[/Quote

Maybe should change the text in the original post in case some one doesn't get to page 6 to see you were wrong and Matt Roche is a genuine classic car enthusiast.

Kenny Logins · 17-02-2012 12:47pm

Quoting the post doesn't help..

johnos1984 · 17-02-2012 12:49pm

bbsrs wrote: »

Maybe should change the text in the original post in case some one doesn't get to page 6 to see you were wrong and Matt Roche is a genuine classic car enthusiast.

I've highlighted the reg may reappear in the opening post which is still important.

Mods can make decisions on the rest

corktina · 17-02-2012 1:01pm

i think its best to remember that boardsies can have multiple IDs too.i think that is the case on this thread!

Kenny Logins · 17-02-2012 1:24pm

corktina wrote: »

i think its best to remember that boardsies can have multiple IDs too.i think that is the case on this thread!

Really? Where?

I think this thread should be moved to CT.

davoxx · 17-02-2012 2:02pm

corktina wrote: »

i think its best to remember that boardsies can have multiple IDs too.i think that is the case on this thread!

that's against the rules ... :rolleyes:

Max Power1 · 17-02-2012 4:08pm

davoxx wrote: »

that's against the rules ... :rolleyes:

And so is ringing

thewintermute · 17-02-2012 8:01pm

I'm glad our courts don't operate to the same standards as the Kangaroo Court on here.

I hope the days where folks have to defend themselves against random public accusations on the interweb are limited.

There's still nothing amounting to anything that even looks like evidence being put forward here, and yet a man has had to defend his reputation and his good name.

Shameful.

f4fay · 18-02-2012 1:01am

Shame on all of you people trying to save the "Classic Car Scene " !!!!!!!!!!

Gene Hunt · 18-02-2012 2:07am

thewintermute wrote: »

I'm glad our courts don't operate to the same standards as the Kangaroo Court on here.

I hope the days where folks have to defend themselves against random public accusations on the interweb are limited.

There's still nothing amounting to anything that even looks like evidence being put forward here, and yet a man has had to defend his reputation and his good name.

Shameful.

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Ah listen lads this isn't fair on the man, none of us know the real story here with that merc and maybe he doesn't know the truth about it either ,anyway it's his now he paid for it and probably only good for parts now anyhow cos she's a marked car now in the classic cars scene......so can we let the man get on with his life:)

unkel · 18-02-2012 2:36am

Gene Hunt wrote: »

so can we let the man get on with his life:)

I don't feel we can expect plenty more worthy contributions to this thread. So closed it will be. If anyone feels I should re-open it, PM me with your reasoning.

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