Irish drugs 'mule' dies in Venezuela after condoms full of cocaine burst

bobmalooka · 23-03-2012 9:57pm

Riddle101 wrote: »

Why feel sorry for him? He was part of a crime family in Sligo that's responsible for distributing cocaine throughout the North West. He died because he was stupid enough to put a condom full of Cocaine in his stomach. On top of that, we don't even know what this guy was like only that he's a criminal, he could have been a cold hearted murderer for all we know as well. So yeah, I think i'll reserve my sympathy for him tbh.

Is he?

The lad used to sleep rough in sligo, I'd expect a crime family distributing coke to afford somewhere to live.

SteoL · 23-03-2012 9:57pm

gustafo wrote: »

there's another episode sorted for banged up abroad in a few years time

I knew someone on that! Couldn't believe what I was watching the night it was on. Hadn't seen her since we were in our early teens about 20 years ago.

barney4001 · 23-03-2012 10:06pm

ITS WORSE THAN A DOSE

Show Time · 23-03-2012 10:14pm

He must have had some buzz before he dropped.

Jess16 · 23-03-2012 10:16pm

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Sad tho for anyone to die like this

Sad my ass, if you're stupid enough to play with fire, you're gonna get burned. Natural selection at it's finest

EGAR · 23-03-2012 10:16pm

Does anyone know what a massive overdose of the ****e causes? I.e. was it quick or painful?

JONJO THE MISER · 23-03-2012 10:23pm

Steven81 wrote: »

In the paper it said that another 2 people from Athlone were caught and would be going to Jail in Venezuela, after watching Banged up Abroad in Venezuela they are going to have a tough time but following the saying" do the crime and do the time".

We will see how tough they are over there:D

SteoL · 23-03-2012 10:24pm

EGAR wrote: »

Does anyone know what a massive overdose of the ****e causes? I.e. was it quick or painful?

From what I've read/heard it's a horrifically painful death.

JONJO THE MISER · 23-03-2012 10:27pm

Hope the lads get a good night's sleep;)

Venezuela and its capital, Caracas, are reported to both have among the highest per capita murder rates in the world. Most murders and other violent crimes go unsolved. Armed criminal gangs often operate with impunity throughout the urban areas. The poor neighborhoods that cover the hills around Caracas are extremely dangerous. U.S. travelers have reported robberies and other crimes committed against them by individuals wearing uniforms and purporting to be police officers or National Guard members. Police investigations into kidnappings have revealed that police officers are often involved. Caracas tops list of murder capitals of the world

JONJO THE MISER · 23-03-2012 10:30pm

Prison Life in Caracas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCghBN_o4kM

Super-Rush · 23-03-2012 10:31pm

I knew the chap very well.

I feel so sorry for his family.

hondasam · 23-03-2012 10:34pm

EGAR wrote: »

Does anyone know what a massive overdose of the ****e causes? I.e. was it quick or painful?

I would imagine slow and painful.

JONJO THE MISER · 23-03-2012 10:34pm

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/que-pasa/over-500-deaths-last-year-at-venezuelas-notorious-prisons

CARACAS, Venezuela — With inmates wielding machine guns, rifles and grenades and guards often unwilling to enter the overcrowded buildings for fear of their own death, jails in Venezuela have become a lawless territory that magnify the violence outside their walls. More than 500 people were killed in Venezuela’s notoriously dangerous prisons last year, according to a local charity.

partyatmygaff · 23-03-2012 10:36pm

I've little sympathy for cocaine dealers and those who work for them. Even less so when they're stupid enough to think that ingesting a relatively huge amount of cocaine with nothing protecting it from their body but a thin layer of plastic is a good idea.

Fiona · 23-03-2012 10:46pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Even less so when they're stupid enough to think that ingesting a relatively huge amount of cocaine with nothing protecting it from their body but a thin layer of plastic is a good idea.

Yup cos they have yet to develop a morning after pill to deal with the issue of a split condom full of cocaine.....

Nasty.

westernventure · 24-03-2012 12:43am

they thought they were big boys dealing the yaya in sligo! haha wait until they meet some of the gentlemen who await them in a caracas jail,

I have no sympathy for the fcuking scum.

starch4ser · 24-03-2012 1:01am

EGAR wrote: »

Does anyone know what a massive overdose of the ****e causes? I.e. was it quick or painful?

I've heard of a few people over the years dieing in similar circumstances. Seems they start having mad fits like they're a transformer changing figure and black foam comes out of their mouths. Lucky it didn't happen on the plane. Imagine if you were sitting next to the guy when it all kicks off.

booboo88 · 24-03-2012 2:11am

hondasam wrote: »

This is a very good point problemchimp, people who take drugs don't see themselves as bad as the ones who sell them, without a buyer there would be no need for a seller.

whether you buy or sell drugs, you're the lowest of the low.

Jess16 wrote: »

Sad my ass, if you're stupid enough to play with fire, you're gonna get burned. Natural selection at it's finest

Seconded.

policarp · 24-03-2012 2:29am

Condom burst.
Morning after pill.

Ilovemyusername · 24-03-2012 2:41am

Jesus get over yourselves "whether you use drugs or sell them you're the lowest of the low" Are you having a laugh? What about murderers and pedophiles? A person has died have a bit of respect for them and their family, just because someone does drugs doesn't mean they're the lowest of the low. I'm sure a lot of people on here have done drugs and most of you probably drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes which are also drugs so cop on and get a grip for Gods sake.

aquaman · 24-03-2012 2:46am

"Irish drugs 'mule' dies in Venezuela after condoms full of cocaine burst"

Can that happen?

I'm never doing that again!

westernventure · 24-03-2012 2:46am

Ilovemyusername wrote: »

Jesus get over yourselves "whether you use drugs or sell them you're the lowest of the low" Are you having a laugh? What about murderers and pedophiles? A person has died have a bit of respect for them and their family, just because someone does drugs doesn't mean they're the lowest of the low. I'm sure a lot of people on here have done drugs and most of you probably drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes which are also drugs so cop on and get a grip for Gods sake.

ohh shut up ya old clown...they deserve what they get

Stained Class · 24-03-2012 2:48am

booboo88 wrote: »

He is the lowest of the low.

Nah. Whoever sent him to do it is though.

I hope they die roaring, just like he did.:mad:

omck80 · 24-03-2012 2:49am

My first post on boards

God love him no matter who he was. Just goes to show what this country is forcing people to do. Even if he was from big drug dealing family thats a horrible death.

booboo88 · 24-03-2012 2:50am

Stained Class wrote: »

Nah. Whoever sent him to do it is though.

I hope they die roaring, just like he did.:mad:

Yea cause he's the innocent one in all of this:rolleyes:

Ilovemyusername · 24-03-2012 2:51am

Ehh no need for the name calling and I'm most likely a lot younger than you. How do they get what they deserve you know nothing about them or their life. There's absolutely no need for half the horrible comments on here, bunch of snobs thinking they're better than everyone else.

EGAR · 24-03-2012 2:51am

omck80 wrote: »

My first post on boards God love him no matter who he was. Just goes to show what this country is forcing people to do. Even if he was from big drug dealing family thats a horrible death.

I am calling BS on that one, no one forced him to do this and drug mules exist in good and bad times. His choice, his life.

I have no sympathy for drug couriers, sellers AND buyers.

Stained Class · 24-03-2012 3:01am

Ilovemyusername wrote: »

Ehh no need for the name calling and I'm most likely a lot younger than you. How do they get what they deserve you know nothing about them or their life. There's absolutely no need for half the horrible comments on here, bunch of snobs thinking they're better than everyone else.

And your'e most likely less intelligent than most of us.

Drugs, Drug dealing & Drug use has caused an unholey anount of misery for people & their families in this country.

Cop on!:mad:

policarp · 24-03-2012 3:02am

Ilovemyusername wrote: »

Jesus get over yourselves "whether you use drugs or sell them you're the lowest of the low" Are you having a laugh? What about murderers and pedophiles? A person has died have a bit of respect for them and their family, just because someone does drugs doesn't mean they're the lowest of the low. I'm sure a lot of people on here have done drugs and most of you probably drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes which are also drugs so cop on and get a grip for Gods sake.

Sly go. . .

Ilovemyusername · 24-03-2012 3:07am

Ha what is your problem why do you feel the need to keep trying to insult me? I know what they've caused that's why I'm saying have some respect you've clearly never lost anyone to drugs and I hope you never do but then you would have a different outlook. You don't know anyone's circumstances or how they end up involved with drugs and they are more to be pitied than to be called the lowest of the low and all this s**t.

Riddle101 · 24-03-2012 3:15am

bobmalooka wrote: »

Is he?

The lad used to sleep rough in sligo, I'd expect a crime family distributing coke to afford somewhere to live.

I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from?.Are you justifying his his actions in regards to drugs?

Stained Class · 24-03-2012 3:19am

Ilovemyusername wrote: »

Ha what is your problem why do you feel the need to keep trying to insult me? I know what they've caused that's why I'm saying have some respect you've clearly never lost anyone to drugs and I hope you never do but then you would have a different outlook. You don't know anyone's circumstances or how they end up involved with drugs and they are more to be pitied than to be called the lowest of the low and all this s**t.

Look Mate. I don't know if this rant is directed at me,but...................

I'M PAYING MY TAXES TO KEEP THIS COUNTRY RUNNING.

I DUNNO WHY, WHEN IT'S KEEPING WASTERS ON THE DOLE, GRASPING FOR EVERMORE 'ENTITLEMENTS' THAT THEY FEEL ACCOUSTOMED TO.

Why bother?:rolleyes:

Ilovemyusername · 24-03-2012 3:22am

I'm not your mate

What's the dole got to do with any of this? Haha go on the dole and stop paying taxes then if that's the way you feel.

Stained Class · 24-03-2012 3:26am

Ilovemyusername wrote: »

I'm not your mate What's the dole got to do with any of this? Haha go on the dole and stop paying taxes then if that's the way you feel.

Nah 'Mate', I feel a responsibility to my family, so I'll stay working.

Thanks for the advice though.

I won't become one of the 'Entitled Ones' thanks.

ColeTrain · 24-03-2012 3:30am

Stained Class wrote: »

Look Mate. I don't know if this rant is directed at me,but...................

I'M PAYING MY TAXES TO KEEP THIS COUNTRY RUNNING.

I DUNNO WHY, WHEN IT'S KEEPING WASTERS ON THE DOLE, GRASPING FOR EVERMORE 'ENTITLEMENTS' THAT THEY FEEL ACCOUSTOMED TO.

Why bother?:rolleyes:

TBF it's not just people on the dole that are dealing or using drugs.
See Montana, Tony. Ryan, Gerry etc.

Stained Class · 24-03-2012 3:34am

ColeTrain wrote: »

TBF it's not just people on the dole that are dealing or using drugs.
See Montana, Tony. Ryan, Gerry etc.

True. Supply & demand & all that.

I hate anybody feeling sorry for anybody stupid enough to get involved in the 'trade' though.

It's a cancer on Irish society.

SeanW · 24-03-2012 3:35am

hondasam wrote: »

This is a very good point problemchimp, people who take drugs don't see themselves as bad as the ones who sell them, without a buyer there would be no need for a seller.

And without stupid Prohibition laws there would be no need for this black market.

It's like the American 1920s all over again, but unlike the repeal of the Volstead Act, our governments do not have the sense to realise that THEY are the ones fundamentally causing this problem with their idiotic laws that do so much more harm than good.

jased10s · 24-03-2012 3:54am

the lenghts some people will go to pay the household charge

Kurz · 24-03-2012 4:01am

EGAR wrote: »

no one forced him to do this

Seriously? Drug mules are only ever in that situation because they're being forced to. It's not exactly a business venture.

Rolli · 24-03-2012 4:01am

ColeTrain wrote: »

Should have went for 'extra safe'.

strobe · 24-03-2012 4:05am

gustafo wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/irish-drugs-mule-dies-in-venezuela-after-condoms-full-of-cocaine-burst-3059357.html

Ohh dear god will these clowns ever learn

High risk, high reward. Roll of the dice, sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. Better luck to the next runner hopefully.

saywhatyousee · 24-03-2012 4:27am

Sad to hear and the ironic thing is he probably was not being paid anything to do it he was a well know user.Probably getting his tick sheet shortened.Oh and that "Sligo based crime family" does not exist anymore is was disbanded over a year ago most of the members retired to Spain.It was replaced 4 or 5 smaller gangs which ironically has driven prices down as they all compete with each other.

Mr. Loverman · 24-03-2012 4:49am

I've read many books on criminals and one of the things which comes up again and again is that the average criminal has low intelligence.

I cannot believe they still use this method to import drugs. It may be "quicker" but it requires a constant supply of mules and there is a high risk that you will lose your shipment (never mind the mule).

Why don't they just get organised and figure out a secure, reusable route? Off the top of my head, you get the drugs from Columbia into Brazil. You pay off someone who works on a tanker (e.g. banana boat) to allow one crate of your product on every trip. The boat then arrives in Spain or where ever and then the product is distributed. To get it into Ireland you simply need to go via Irish Ferries as they have no security checks between France and Ireland.

Obviously the above would take a bit of effort but surely it is doable especially with the kind of money these guys have.

Or perhaps this sort of thing already exists and the condoms-in-the-stomach guys are the equivalent of the lads who sell bananas on Moore Street whereas the scenario above is Tesco...

old_aussie · 24-03-2012 4:54am

ROF LMAO

Aoifey! · 24-03-2012 4:58am

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Or perhaps this sort of thing already exists and the condoms-in-the-stomach guys are the equivalent of the lads who sell bananas on Moore Street whereas the scenario above is Tesco...

I'd say that's most likely. If not we'd have much more cases of people dying like this man. There are probably much more organised imports of cocaine and other drugs but they are so well organised most people have no idea they even exist.

Whatever about whether he was forced into it or did it of his own free will, a man still died and I still feel sorry for him and his family. RIP.

deisebiker · 24-03-2012 6:56am

Good riddance to the scum bag. Delighted for him

Mr. Loverman · 24-03-2012 6:57am

Emberly Wailing Oncology wrote: »

Yes because thats how all the cocaine gets into the country. No one ever thinks of checking there.

Another one bits the dust.....i'll get my coat.

I travel via Irish Ferries a lot and there are no security checks (for foot passengers).

darced · 24-03-2012 11:08am

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booboo88 · 24-03-2012 11:30am

Ilovemyusername wrote: »

Ehh no need for the name calling and I'm most likely a lot younger than you. How do they get what they deserve you know nothing about them or their life. There's absolutely no need for half the horrible comments on here, bunch of snobs thinking they're better than everyone else.

I know they were involved in drugs, and in my view any one dealing with that muck is the lowest of the low, and yes I do have experience of the horrible cruel nature of drugs.
And how do you have the right to call people a bunch of snobs, you know nothing about me, Im assuming anyone else.
And I will stand by my comments that he is the lowest of the low, he knew what he was dabbling in.
And yes I do feel sympathy for his family, as they've lost a loved one.

Kurz wrote: »

Seriously? Drug mules are only ever in that situation because they're being forced to. It's not exactly a business venture.

And how would one be forced to do it? And why?
Im assuming he owed a debt to some pusher,

Reamer Fanny · 24-03-2012 11:32am

He should have double bagged it

Irish drugs 'mule' dies in Venezuela after condoms full of cocaine burst

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