Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

Kirby · 17-06-2013 5:56pm

Kerrigooney wrote: »

In what way?

In worldwide audience figures and public consciousness. People outside of Germany only pay attention to the Bundesliga when the champions league semi's roll around every year and they realise the Germans have a team or two in them. It's sad but true.

Money too. I'd wager the average player wage in the EPL is higher than it is in Germany.

plannerscanner · 17-06-2013 6:07pm

MD1990 wrote: »

Eriksen i feel is very overated imo
whenever ive seen for Denmark or in the CL he hasn't impressed me at all
Coutinho is a much better player imo

Fully agree with you here. Have seen Eriksen at the WC 2010 (I know he was only 18) and he looked completely lost. Same again at the European champs. Happened to catch Denmark v Czech Rep last September and he was anonymous. From what I have heard he wasn't much better in the return which Denmark won comfortably. 3 goals in 35 apps for Denmark (all against poor opposition) does not speak volumes. As for Mickey Ryan - from the few clips I've seen he is a far more dynamic player across the front. He was impressive home and away against ROI a few years back and has managed to find the net against some high profile opponents Internationally. Here's hoping to see him in red next season.

jcsoulinger · 17-06-2013 6:08pm

Kirby wrote: »

In worldwide audience figures and public consciousness. People outside of Germany only pay attention to the Bundesliga when the champions league semi's roll around every year and they realise the Germans have a team or two in them. It's sad but true.

Money too. I'd wager the average player wage in the EPL is higher than it is in Germany.

And the pl is more competitive its not good when you sell your best players to your arch rival who battered you in the league I would be very surprised if b Munich don't win the league by a mile again next year

T-K-O · 17-06-2013 6:12pm

plannerscanner wrote: »

Fully agree with you here. Have seen Eriksen at the WC 2010 (I know he was only 18) and he looked completely lost. Same again at the European champs. Happened to catch Denmark v Czech Rep last September and he was anonymous. From what I have heard he wasn't much better in the return which Denmark won comfortably. 3 goals in 35 apps for Denmark (all against poor opposition) does not speak volumes. As for Mickey Ryan - from the few clips I've seen he is a far more dynamic player across the front. He was impressive home and away against ROI a few years back and has managed to find the net against some high profile opponents Internationally. Here's hoping to see him in red next season.

I have to agree. He looks a decent player but IMO a player we do not need. He also failed to impress every time I saw him play. Maybe his rep was too big, I dont know.

Another thing that surprised me was the apparent lack of interest from other clubs.

Anyway good luck to him.

mike65 · 17-06-2013 6:13pm

nucker wrote: »

What's the latest on Iago Aspas?

His twitter account declares

Former celta de vigo and currently in liverpool football club!

I think we'll finally see him and Toure and hopefully a couple more on July 1st, in a massive picture with Ian Ayre and Zafar Iqbal!

Hidalgo · 17-06-2013 6:38pm

jcsoulinger wrote: »

And the pl is more competitive its not good when you sell your best players to your arch rival who battered you in the league I would be very surprised if b Munich don't win the league by a mile again next year

There's been seasons where the EPL has been won well in advance of the season's end.
In the last 10 years Werder Bremen, Stuttgart, Wolfsburg, Dortmund and Munich have all won the Bundeliga.
Back to back titles is the most that's been done in that time frame, no 3 in a row.

In England in the corresponding period, the EPL has been won by Arsenal, Chelsea Utd and City.

Yes Goetze to Munich isn't good for competition, Dortmund's efforts to try and sell Lewendaski to anyone but Munich is a good sign for the league.
The idea that Munich are going to dominate the Bundesliga forever isn't a new one. Hasn't really came to fruition yet

asdfgh86 · 17-06-2013 6:46pm

After the Suarez-Evra debacle, should we be really be signing a guy with Aryan in his name?

Vicxas · 17-06-2013 7:02pm

asdfgh86 wrote: »

After the Suarez-Evra debacle, should we be really be signing a guy with Aryan in his name?

Aryan Von Racist

Jason Todd · 17-06-2013 7:11pm

mike65 wrote: »

I think we'll finally see him and Toure and hopefully a couple more on July 1st, in a massive picture with Ian Ayre and Zafar Iqbal!

He any good? Both-footed I hear.

Joking!

opr · 17-06-2013 7:29pm

Football player, "Miner" Henrik Mkhitaryan medical examination will be held in the "Liverpool"

MOSCOW, June 17

Armenian Ukrainian footballer, "Miner" / Donetsk / Henrik Mkhitaryan in the next two days will pass medical examination in English "Liverpool". The correspondent of ITAR-TASS has learned from sources in the Donetsk team.

Mkhitaryan will fly to England. Liverpool officially announce the signing of a contract with the player closer to the end of the week. The amount of compensation for the top scorer in the championship of Ukraine will be about 30 million euros.

In the previous season in the "Miner" Mkhitaryan Ukrainian champion and winner of the National Cup. During this time the midfielder has played 41 matches, scoring 29 goals.

http://www.itar-tass.com/c20/774548.html

Opr

daithijjj · 17-06-2013 7:32pm

As sources go that's fairly solid ^^^

Vicxas · 17-06-2013 7:33pm

Doesnt look like the Daily Mail of Russia...

anirishlad · 17-06-2013 7:34pm

He scored an upsetting goal against the republic of Ireland in which he ended Irelands 8 game clean sheet record. Although Armenia did not advance past the qualifying stage for UEFA Euro 2012,

:pac:

Knex* · 17-06-2013 7:34pm

€30m is around £25m I think. What was the rumoured fee all along, 22?

I'll be delighted if we have a good chunk of business completed by July 1st.

MD1990 · 17-06-2013 7:35pm

he would be a really great signing
if we could keep Suarez too we would have a real chance at the top 4

barone · 17-06-2013 7:40pm

bit bemused why carroll needs a medical now after playing for them all season,surely they will know if he's a crock by now..

ive a feeling that all our transfer dealings will be done before suarez is let leave, and that the money spent will be recouped by his and ac's sales.

unless there is a surprise instore for us and we sign someone not yet linked with, cant see a huge outlay being made, mingolet fee will be cancelled out with pepe's departure i think, would be great to keep pepe for one more season and have great cover in mingolet but cant see that happening..

as for suarez, there are ways to do things if you wish to leave in good standing with the supporters you claim to love, and it aint the way your doing things.. i thought myself it would be a once bitten twice shy scenario after torres left , but i fell for luis... ya bollix.

djPSB · 17-06-2013 7:45pm

Signing Micky and keeping Suarez would mean our starting attack would only be marginally inferior to United, Chelsea and City.

Probably better than Spurs and Arsenals.

~Rebel~ · 17-06-2013 7:45pm

barone wrote: »

bit bemused why carroll needs a medical now after playing for them all season,surely they will know if he's a crock by now..

A requirement for insurance purposes I'd say.

Courtesy Flush · 17-06-2013 7:51pm

barone wrote: »

as for suarez, there are ways to do things if you wish to leave in good standing with the supporters you claim to love, and it aint the way your doing things.. i thought myself it would be a once bitten twice shy scenario after torres left , but i fell for luis... ya bollix.

We will just have to get used to the idea that these days any top quality player a team like Liverpool have will be tempted to leave. Torres, Suarez and the like have no real connection to the club. Unlike Gerrard

Luap · 17-06-2013 7:53pm

Is the Mkhitaryan signing because of Suarez or Carroll?

Or both.

barone · 17-06-2013 7:55pm

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

We will just have to get used to the idea that these days any top quality player a team like Liverpool have will be tempted to leave. Torres, Suarez and the like have no real connection to the club. Unlike Gerrard

wont ever get used to seeing lfc as a stepping stone for any player

Bobeagleburger · 17-06-2013 7:56pm

djPSB wrote: »

Signing Micky and keeping Suarez would mean our starting attack would only be marginally inferior to United, Chelsea and City.

Probably better than Spurs and Arsenals.

I'm still holding out some hope he'll stay.

Keeping him please would be the best move of the summer for us.

NukaCola · 17-06-2013 7:59pm

daithijjj wrote: »

Erriksen seems to have signed for Dortmund for 15m.

15m euro? Less than AC to West Ham.......British players eh!? When will people learn?

I am pie · 17-06-2013 8:07pm

Knex. wrote: »

€30m is around £25m I think. What was the rumoured fee all along, 22?

I'll be delighted if we have a good chunk of business completed by July 1st.

Seriously, is nobody else worried about blowing that amount of cash on a lad from the Ukrainian league?

I pray this works out.

Bobeagleburger · 17-06-2013 8:08pm

So Mkhitaryan is valued at double what Errikson is?

That's mad Ted

klose · 17-06-2013 8:09pm

I am pie wrote: »

Seriously, is nobody else worried about blowing that amount of cash on a lad from the Ukrainian league?

I pray this works out.

Made the last 16 of the cl and put it up to dortmund in that game.

City paid 35 mill for a dm from them, i wouldnt be too worried the reports on him are all very good from what ive seen.

Hidalgo · 17-06-2013 8:10pm

Luap wrote: »

Is the Mkhitaryan signing because of Suarez or Carroll?

Or both.

I'm guessing a replacement for Suarez in sorts.
Can't see over £20m spent on the Armenian, then the Suarez money spent on a replacement striker.
The Carroll money would cover Alberto & Aspas

Knex* · 17-06-2013 8:12pm

Was always going to cost a lot when doing business with Shakatar.

Hidalgo · 17-06-2013 8:14pm

klose wrote: »

Made the last 16 of the cl and put it up to dortmund in that game.

City paid 35 mill for a dm from them, i wouldnt be too worried the reports on him are all very good from what ive seen.

British tax is sooooo last year,
Shakter tax is the new thing dontcha know

Dub13 · 17-06-2013 8:15pm

I am pie wrote: »

Seriously, is nobody else worried about blowing that amount of cash on a lad from the Ukrainian league?

I pray this works out.

I am, but like any singing its a risk.

5starpool · 17-06-2013 8:21pm

rarnes1 wrote: »

So Mkhitaryan is valued at double what Errikson is?

That's mad Ted

Eriksen only had a year left on his contract. That's reduced his price considerably I'd say.

willowthewisp · 17-06-2013 8:24pm

Dub13 wrote: »

I am, but like any singing its a risk.

Well anyone who's heard yours will testify to that!

Bobeagleburger · 17-06-2013 8:24pm

5starpool wrote: »

Eriksen only had a year left on his contract. That's reduced his price considerably I'd say.

Is that all? Didn't realise that.

I wonder were we in for him? In fairness, Dortmund are much more appealing than us atm.

Wages might be something we could match or better them on though.

marno21 · 17-06-2013 8:25pm

In terms of the UEFA co-efficients the Dutch league is rated two places below the Ukrainian league.

It was before my time but was there people concerned about "blowing that amount of cash" on Suarez?

5starpool · 17-06-2013 8:26pm

rarnes1 wrote: »

Is that all? Didn't realise that.

I wonder were we in for him? In fairness, Dortmund are much more appealing than us atm.

Wages might be something we could match or better them on though.

I'd guess we were, but it would have a stretch to think he would have come to us as he wouldn't have been short of offers from CL clubs I'd imagine.

Dub13 · 17-06-2013 8:28pm

marno21 wrote: »

In terms of the UEFA co-efficients the Dutch league is rated two places below the Ukrainian league.

It was before my time but was there people concerned about "blowing that amount of cash" on Suarez?

Feel old now.

Knex* · 17-06-2013 8:37pm

Dub13 wrote: »

Feel old now.

I presume he meant before his time on boards. Least I hope so!

marno21 · 17-06-2013 8:40pm

Knex. wrote: »

I presume he meant before his time on boards. Least I hope so!

Yes I did, sorry

Anyone who knows the lad from watching him seems to be genuinely excited about him (look at John Bradley on Twitter). Just cos he plays in a weaker league doesn't make him automatically poor. So far this window has been genuinely exciting and it looks like quality and value for money being signed so far

5live · 17-06-2013 8:49pm

gafferino wrote: »

No you wont.....this has been shown with stats...i.e. i think we have a higher win % without him. Thats been seen before when Gerrard was out too.

Thing is its a small window which those stats are based on. As in right lads Luis is banned again for killing a unicorn with unicorn repellent so you lads need to step it up for the next 10 games.....and they do. Probably wouldnt be the same over a whole season.

Fact is he is world class. I would have him 1st name on the team sheet every week. World class is world class.

First the Evra debacle...

Then the Ivanovic bite debacle...

And now the fekker is killing unicorns....

Now i REALLY dont want this guy at the club:(

mike65 · 17-06-2013 8:52pm

Luap wrote: »

Is the Mkhitaryan signing because of Suarez or Carroll?

Or both.

Carroll maybe, it was made clear that the summer attacking options were not dependent on the sale of anyone player (though clearly the money has to come from sales as well as fresh capital). When Suarez is sold LFC be all out to land the best striker that will be willing to play for LFC.

Leiva · 17-06-2013 8:57pm

mike65 wrote: »

Carroll maybe, it was made clear that the summer attacking options were not dependent on the sale of anyone player (though clearly the money has to come from sales as well as fresh capital). When Suarez is sold LFC be all out to land the best striker that will be willing to play for LFC.

Or we could be just flushed due to our new middle eastern investor

Strongbow10 · 17-06-2013 8:57pm

The cynic in me says we only made a move to sign Mhytarayan because we know we will be well capitalised with the Suarez sale. Same with Suarez coming in for Torres.

Its all well and good saying the intention is to partner them, when you know full well that its not going to be the case.

Bobeagleburger · 17-06-2013 8:59pm

Strongbow10 wrote: »

The cynic in me says we only made a move to sign Mhytarayan because we know we will be well capitalised with the Suarez sale. Same with Suarez coming in for Torres.

Its all well and good saying the intention is to partner them, when you know full well that its not going to be the case.

The Suarez saga could go on until August.

I'd say it's the Carroll move that will make or break the Micky deal

mike65 · 17-06-2013 9:00pm

Carroll is off to West Ham, and only his medical can stop him! :eek: :pac:

Mickalus · 17-06-2013 9:01pm

Strongbow10 wrote: »

The cynic in me says we only made a move to sign Mhytarayan because we know we will be well capitalised with the Suarez sale. Same with Suarez coming in for Torres.

Its all well and good saying the intention is to partner them, when you know full well that its not going to be the case.

Suarez was coming in anyway wasn't he?

mosstin · 17-06-2013 9:04pm

marno21 wrote: »

Yes I did, sorry

Anyone who knows the lad from watching him seems to be genuinely excited about him (look at John Bradley on Twitter). Just cos he plays in a weaker league doesn't make him automatically poor. So far this window has been genuinely exciting and it looks like quality and value for money being signed so far

Um, we've signed a little known Spaniard and a free transfer from City. The talk may well be exciting but that's all it remains for now.

Strongbow10 · 17-06-2013 9:07pm

Mickalus wrote: »

Suarez was coming in anyway wasn't he?

I think it was always with an eye on using the Torres cash

opr · 17-06-2013 9:21pm

Barret now reporting in The Times that we're willing to pay Mkhitaryan £22m release clause to bring him to Liverpool.

Opr

I am pie · 17-06-2013 9:26pm

klose wrote: »

Made the last 16 of the cl and put it up to dortmund in that game.

City paid 35 mill for a dm from them, i wouldnt be too worried the reports on him are all very good from what ive seen.

I wouldn't use city as the barometer of sensible transfer fees...I accept he had a good season last year.

Still worried. Hope to be proved wrong.

opr · 17-06-2013 9:30pm

It's such a pity this Suarez thing is ongoing. It's great to see how active we seem to be in the market but any emotion is currently being heavily tempered by the whole Suarez saga to the point that hearing about a potentially massive signing like this actually looking like it will happen isn't really causing any major excitement level for me at the moment.

If the whole Suarez thing wasn't in the background I can only imagine how stoked I'd currently be around the kind of business we seem to be doing.

Opr

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