VDSL Stats - Whats yours?

gambeta_fc · 23-03-2014 2:23pm

Thanks for the feedback.

Using runkeeper app on my phone it's bang on 650m from cabinet to front door but I suspect the cabling takes the scenic route around the estate.

Will hold off for vectoring to be enabled to see where that gets me.

Cheers.

Vico1612 · 23-03-2014 7:22pm

My stats after getting Vectoring enabled

Vico1612 · 24-03-2014 11:12am

Played around a little more with the HG hidden menus and got extra info for Stats lovers
Good to see Upload attainable speed could still be pushed ...

Nonoperational · 24-03-2014 12:24pm

How did you do that?

Vico1612 · 24-03-2014 12:31pm

Nonoperational wrote: »

How did you do that?

Hi Nonoperational,

I followed the same methodology described in the bridging the HG658 thread.
In a nut shell, the items which are hidden have a 'style = display none '
So I found an item which is visible, found the attainable entries and replaced the style values from a visible entry

Hope this makes sense ...
Vico

Mickalus · 24-03-2014 12:36pm

How'd you get vectoring enabled? Is that a Vodafone only thing at this stage? (I'm with eircom)

Nonoperational · 24-03-2014 12:38pm

Ya I got it there. Very cool, thanks.

Vico1612 · 24-03-2014 12:45pm

Mickalus wrote: »

How'd you get vectoring enabled? Is that a Vodafone only thing at this stage? (I'm with eircom)

I asked a Vodafone rep on the official vodafone community site [ not on boards ] if he could check my profile and if possible bump it up as I had read that my town had been enabled.
I noticed the increase yesterday , so don't know if it's thanks to the VF rep or if they have bumped up other users too ...

seanp_25 · 24-03-2014 12:48pm

My router config with Magnet got a bump in SNR margin a few days ago (increased from ~14dB to 21dB). (It's hard to post a comparison with the stats from VF or other routers, this Magnet one is fairly basic) I'm on 70MB already, does that mean there should be room to move up to 100MB?

leigh852 · 24-03-2014 7:36pm

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 2 days: 0 hour: 23 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 71.812 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 71.672 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 13.6 dB 21.9 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 7 ms
Transmit Power: - 9.9 dBm 14.4 dBm
Receive Power: -21.4 dBm 4.2 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 11.4 dB 10.1 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 36.100 Mbps 134.616 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 1.9 18.9 12.9 N/A 7.3 20.5 24.2
Signal Attenuation(dB): 1.9 19.4 12.6 N/A 8.0 20.8 24.2
SNR Margin(dB): 13.9 13.6 13.6 N/A 21.6 21.6 21.7
Transmit Power(dBm):-21.8 -12.8 -13.9 N/A 12.1 7.9 7.1
============================================================================

Weird thing is i'v had these stats since early December when I got it installed. Looking at the Attainable Net Data Rate you'd think vectoring was enabled but they hardly have it enabled on our cabinet since December.

Nonoperational · 24-03-2014 8:40pm

That's a good line you have there.

ED E · 24-03-2014 10:14pm

leigh852 wrote: »

VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 71.812 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 71.672 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 13.6 dB 21.9 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 7 ms
Transmit Power: - 9.9 dBm 14.4 dBm
Receive Power: -21.4 dBm 4.2 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 11.4 dB 10.1 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 36.100 Mbps 134.616 Mbps

Where's the cabinet, in your front garden?

leigh852 · 24-03-2014 10:40pm

ED E wrote: »

Where's the cabinet, in your front garden?

About 50 meters away if even that. The apartment complex is only about 3 years old so im guessing good cable was used!

fat-tony · 24-03-2014 11:32pm

But the attenuation is quite high, even though the SNR's are excellent, which would indicate a further distance. My attenuation is 8.3dB down and 2.5dB up on a 350m distance from the cabinet. i had a 15dB SNR down at install (Nov 2013) which briefly improved to 17.3dB mid February, but has since dropped back to 13dB.

domeld · 25-03-2014 9:09am

Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
None
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 51197
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 20479
Downstream SNR (dB) 20.4
Upstream SNR (dB) 9.8
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 10.3
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 3.4
Downstream output power (dBmV) 11.2
Upstream output power (dBmV) -9.1
Downstream CRC 31
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 7
Upstream FEC 53

PeadarB · 25-03-2014 11:21am

============================================================================

Status 15.40pm 24/03/2014

============================================================================

VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 18.181 Mbps 71.821 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 18.146 Mbps 71.677 Mbps
SNR Margin: 6.1 dB 6.4 dB
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 2.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 10.8 dB 14.2 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 19.065 Mbps 83.192 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 2.3 13.5 19.8 N/A 8.0 18.4 29.6
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.3 12.8 18.4 N/A 10.4 18.3 29.7
SNR Margin(dB): 6.2 6.1 6.0 N/A 6.4 6.4 6.4
Transmit Power(dBm):-25.2 -16.4 -19.2 N/A 7.9 7.9 7.0
============================================================================

Status 10am 25/03/2014

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 3 hours: 30 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 71.812 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 71.672 Mbps
SNR Margin: 8.3 dB 18.8 dB
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 10.6 dB 14.0 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 28.007 Mbps 128.492 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 2.3 13.5 19.6 N/A 8.0 18.4 29.4
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.3 12.8 18.6 N/A 10.4 18.3 29.4
SNR Margin(dB): 8.1 8.3 8.3 N/A 18.8 18.8 18.6
Transmit Power(dBm):-24.8 -16.2 -19.3 N/A 8.2 7.8 6.9
============================================================================

Nice lift overnight. SNR has increased nicely. Attainables are well up. Attenuation remains as is - I still believe there is a poor physical line to the cab from my house.

lmimmfn · 25-03-2014 12:23pm

PeadarB wrote: »

============================================================================

Status 15.40pm 24/03/2014

============================================================================

VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 18.181 Mbps 71.821 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 18.146 Mbps 71.677 Mbps
SNR Margin: 6.1 dB 6.4 dB
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 2.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 10.8 dB 14.2 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 19.065 Mbps 83.192 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 2.3 13.5 19.8 N/A 8.0 18.4 29.6
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.3 12.8 18.4 N/A 10.4 18.3 29.7
SNR Margin(dB): 6.2 6.1 6.0 N/A 6.4 6.4 6.4
Transmit Power(dBm):-25.2 -16.4 -19.2 N/A 7.9 7.9 7.0
============================================================================

Status 10am 25/03/2014

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 3 hours: 30 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 71.812 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 71.672 Mbps
SNR Margin: 8.3 dB 18.8 dB
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 10.6 dB 14.0 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 28.007 Mbps 128.492 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 2.3 13.5 19.6 N/A 8.0 18.4 29.4
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.3 12.8 18.6 N/A 10.4 18.3 29.4
SNR Margin(dB): 8.1 8.3 8.3 N/A 18.8 18.8 18.6
Transmit Power(dBm):-24.8 -16.2 -19.3 N/A 8.2 7.8 6.9
============================================================================

Nice lift overnight. SNR has increased nicely. Attainables are well up. Attenuation remains as is - I still believe there is a poor physical line to the cab from my house.

that looks very promising, i have similar attainable data rates as you had( my attenuation & SNR are better ), hoping i can hit the 100Mb or better when vectoring is enabled.

Mickalus · 25-03-2014 6:45pm

Mickalus wrote: »

Approx 180-200 metres away as the car drives.

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 0 hour: 26 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 10.298 Mbps 41.116 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 10.238 Mbps 40.956 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 20.6 dB 20.7 dB
Actual Delay: 7 ms 8 ms
Transmit Power: 1.7 dBm 14.3 dBm
Receive Power: -17.0 dBm -1.5 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 18.6 dB 15.8 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 29.792 Mbps 96.432 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 5.1 27.1 40.2 N/A 14.2 34.4 52.3
Signal Attenuation(dB): 5.1 26.4 38.5 N/A 14.1 34.4 52.3
SNR Margin(dB): 20.9 20.2 20.8 N/A 20.7 20.7 20.7
Transmit Power(dBm):-12.2 - 2.9 - 0.5 N/A 12.5 7.8 4.8
============================================================================

Got my profile changed today - extra 10 up and down.

Will try and get a speedtest later when wired directly into the router

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 1 hour: 32 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 51.280 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 51.197 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 8.2 dB 18.8 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 8 ms
Transmit Power: 2.0 dBm 14.3 dBm
Receive Power: -17.9 dBm -3.1 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 19.9 dB 17.4 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 28.464 Mbps 99.680 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 5.0 26.9 40.0 N/A 13.9 34.0 52.2
Signal Attenuation(dB): 5.0 26.3 38.9 N/A 15.6 33.7 52.2
SNR Margin(dB): 8.5 8.3 8.2 N/A 18.5 18.6 18.6
Transmit Power(dBm):-13.3 - 3.2 0.2 N/A 12.4 7.5 5.9
============================================================================

KeRbDoG · 25-03-2014 9:46pm

Freaking Sweet!

I'm very far from the cab

============================================================================
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   0 day: 0 hour: 3 minutes
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:      4.272 Mbps       30.795 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:      4.245 Mbps       30.720 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:        6.1 dB            7.9 dB
            Actual Delay:          7 ms              8 ms
          Transmit Power:        7.2 dBm          14.1 dBm
           Receive Power:       -8.6 dBm         -17.7 dBm
              Actual INP:        2.0 symbols       3.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:       15.9 dB           31.8 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:      4.474 Mbps       40.048 Mbps

Nonoperational · 25-03-2014 10:00pm

30Mbit at an attenuation of 31.8? That seems very impressive.

Bog Standard User · 25-03-2014 10:02pm

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Freaking Sweet!

I'm very far from the cab

============================================================================
    VDSL Training Status:   Showtime
                    Mode:   VDSL2 Annex B
            VDSL Profile:   Profile 17a
            Traffic Type:   PTM Mode
             Link Uptime:   0 day: 0 hour: 3 minutes
============================================================================
       VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream
               Line Rate:      [COLOR="red"]4.272[/COLOR] Mbps       30.795 Mbps
    Actual Net Data Rate:     [COLOR="Red"] 4.245 Mbps [/COLOR]      30.720 Mbps
          Trellis Coding:         ON                ON
              SNR Margin:       [COLOR="Red"] 6.1 dB[/COLOR]            7.9 dB
            Actual Delay:          7 ms              8 ms
          Transmit Power:        7.2 dBm          14.1 dBm
           Receive Power:       -8.6 dBm         -17.7 dBm
              Actual INP:        2.0 symbols       3.0 symbols
       Total Attenuation:       15.9 dB           31.8 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate:      [COLOR="red"]4.474 Mbps[/COLOR]       40.048 Mbps

call tech support you have a short on one leg of your line

Bog Standard User · 25-03-2014 10:05pm

Mickalus wrote: »

Got my profile changed today - extra 10 up and down.
Will try and get a speedtest later when wired directly into the router

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 1 hour: 32 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 51.280 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 51.197 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 8.2 dB 18.8 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 8 ms
Transmit Power: 2.0 dBm 14.3 dBm
Receive Power: -17.9 dBm -3.1 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 19.9 dB 17.4 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 28.464 Mbps 99.680 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 5.0 26.9 40.0 N/A 13.9 34.0 52.2
Signal Attenuation(dB): 5.0 26.3 38.9 N/A 15.6 33.7 52.2
SNR Margin(dB): 8.5 8.3 8.2 N/A 18.5 18.6 18.6
Transmit Power(dBm):-13.3 - 3.2 0.2 N/A 12.4 7.5 5.9
============================================================================

with those stats

60/20mb should be possible
70/20mb if there is no line faults

KeRbDoG · 25-03-2014 10:08pm

Nonoperational wrote: »

30Mbit at an attenuation of 31.8? That seems very impressive.

Yup, its amazing really

Bog Standard User wrote: »

call tech support you have a short on one leg of your line

I'm just far from the cab, about 1500m

anotherposter · 25-03-2014 10:08pm

100mb/20mb sync

Nenagh - go vectoring

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 1 day: 7 hours: 6 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.542 Mbps 102.571 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 102.398 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 9.3 dB 13.6 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 5 ms
Transmit Power: -20.3 dBm 13.0 dBm
Receive Power: -26.7 dBm 4.8 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 2.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 6.4 dB 8.1 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 29.639 Mbps 140.996 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 1.2 7.7 10.8 N/A 5.3 11.6 18.7
Signal Attenuation(dB): 1.2 7.1 9.8 N/A 5.3 11.5 18.7
SNR Margin(dB): 9.2 9.4 9.3 N/A 13.3 13.4 13.3
Transmit Power(dBm):-31.1 -21.7 -27.5 N/A 9.4 8.0 7.1
============================================================================

ED E · 25-03-2014 10:20pm

KeRbDoG wrote: »

I'm just far from the cab, about 1500m

He might be right. Its worth a call to have them test it.

KeRbDoG · 25-03-2014 10:23pm

ED E wrote: »

He might be right. Its worth a call to have them test it.

Cool, will call tomorrow so

AlanS181824 · 25-03-2014 11:11pm

anotherposter wrote: »

100mb/20mb sync Nenagh - go vectoring

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 1 day: 7 hours: 6 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.542 Mbps 102.571 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 102.398 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 9.3 dB 13.6 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 5 ms
Transmit Power: -20.3 dBm 13.0 dBm
Receive Power: -26.7 dBm 4.8 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 2.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 6.4 dB 8.1 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 29.639 Mbps 140.996 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 1.2 7.7 10.8 N/A 5.3 11.6 18.7
Signal Attenuation(dB): 1.2 7.1 9.8 N/A 5.3 11.5 18.7
SNR Margin(dB): 9.2 9.4 9.3 N/A 13.3 13.4 13.3
Transmit Power(dBm):-31.1 -21.7 -27.5 N/A 9.4 8.0 7.1
============================================================================

140mb???
Seriously! That's seriously impressive.

Mickalus · 25-03-2014 11:41pm

Bog Standard User wrote: »

with those stats

60/20mb should be possible
70/20mb if there is no line faults

Paying for up to 50 with Eircom. Must look into the other packages and see if I can get that wee bit extra.

AmilcarAlho · 26-03-2014 11:07am

Something not right with a recent standalone install, waiting for update from Eircom. Last week engineer showed me the line tested at 140 down, 35 up. When sorted, will make a lot of my users happy, going from 12/2 on a 18/2 adsl.

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 3 hours: 0 minute
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 15.418 Mbps 14.893 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 15.358 Mbps 14.842 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 5.7 dB 4.4 dB
Actual Delay: 6 ms 8 ms
Transmit Power: 9.8 dBm 12.6 dBm
Receive Power: -24.3 dBm -11.8 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 2.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 34.0 dB 24.4 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 16.579 Mbps 12.372 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 24.5 41.3 52.1 N/A 25.4 47.4 62.6
Signal Attenuation(dB): 24.5 40.9 51.4 N/A 22.6 47.1 62.8
SNR Margin(dB): 5.8 5.6 5.7 N/A 4.4 4.5 4.4
Transmit Power(dBm):- 0.3 5.9 6.6 N/A 10.7 7.3 - 0.8
============================================================================

JWRyan · 26-03-2014 1:30pm

Before being upgraded to efibre this mourning

After being upgraded

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 2 hours: 46 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 61.527 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 61.428 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 11.7 dB 6.6 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 8 ms
Transmit Power: 8.6 dBm 14.5 dBm
Receive Power: -8.6 dBm -3.1 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 2.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 17.1 dB 17.6 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 33.036 Mbps 66.632 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 4.5 32.9 35.4 N/A 12.9 31.6 48.4
Signal Attenuation(dB): 4.5 33.1 34.4 N/A 15.6 31.5 48.4
SNR Margin(dB): 12.0 11.6 11.7 N/A 6.6 6.5 6.5
Transmit Power(dBm):- 4.2 3.5 6.5 N/A 12.4 7.9 6.8
============================================================================
Pinging boards.ie with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 89.234.66.108: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=60
Reply from 89.234.66.108: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=60
Reply from 89.234.66.108: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=60
Reply from 89.234.66.108: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=60

Ping statistics for:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 24ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 24ms

Signed up for up to 70Mb with eircom. Distance by road from nearest cab is 450m although from what I've read on here attenuation seems very high for that distance.

anotherposter · 26-03-2014 10:20pm

AmilcarAlho wrote: »

Something not right with a recent standalone install, waiting for update from Eircom. Last week engineer showed me the line tested at 140 down, 35 up. When sorted, will make a lot of my users happy, going from 12/2 on a 18/2 adsl.

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 3 hours: 0 minute
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 15.418 Mbps 14.893 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 15.358 Mbps 14.842 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 5.7 dB 4.4 dB
Actual Delay: 6 ms 8 ms
Transmit Power: 9.8 dBm 12.6 dBm
Receive Power: -24.3 dBm -11.8 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 2.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 34.0 dB 24.4 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 16.579 Mbps 12.372 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 24.5 41.3 52.1 N/A 25.4 47.4 62.6
Signal Attenuation(dB): 24.5 40.9 51.4 N/A 22.6 47.1 62.8
SNR Margin(dB): 5.8 5.6 5.7 N/A 4.4 4.5 4.4
Transmit Power(dBm):- 0.3 5.9 6.6 N/A 10.7 7.3 - 0.8
============================================================================

log a fault with eircom

you have a crappy install if the tech got 140mb outside

likely a bad ntu

anotherposter · 26-03-2014 10:21pm

leigh852 wrote: »

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 2 days: 0 hour: 23 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 71.812 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 71.672 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 13.6 dB 21.9 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 7 ms
Transmit Power: - 9.9 dBm 14.4 dBm
Receive Power: -21.4 dBm 4.2 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 11.4 dB 10.1 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 36.100 Mbps 134.616 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 1.9 18.9 12.9 N/A 7.3 20.5 24.2
Signal Attenuation(dB): 1.9 19.4 12.6 N/A 8.0 20.8 24.2
SNR Margin(dB): 13.9 13.6 13.6 N/A 21.6 21.6 21.7
Transmit Power(dBm):-21.8 -12.8 -13.9 N/A 12.1 7.9 7.1
============================================================================

Weird thing is i'v had these stats since early December when I got it installed. Looking at the Attainable Net Data Rate you'd think vectoring was enabled but they hardly have it enabled on our cabinet since December.

call to get yourself on a vectoring profile

with your stats you should be able to get 90mb/20mb

KeRbDoG · 26-03-2014 10:23pm

anotherposter wrote: »

likely a bad ntu

What's an NTU?

Nonoperational · 26-03-2014 10:27pm

Network termination unit. The new phone point on the wall.

allen175 · 26-03-2014 10:28pm

KeRbDoG wrote: »

What's an NTU?

Network Termination Unit aka the main phone socket.

HellboundIRL · 27-03-2014 4:32pm

How long can it take for a profile change to take effect? I rang Eircom 3 hours ago about possibly being bumped up to 70mb and was informed my line could take it and it could be 15-20min before I would see a change and my modem would reset but there's been no change on my line at all since.

It can be hard enough to get an agent who knows what you're asking for so hoping I won't have to call them back again.

domeld · 27-03-2014 4:40pm

It is up to 24 hours for change, usually straight away.

jmcc · 27-03-2014 4:56pm

Will Eircom change the profile/bandwidth automatically or is it necessary to ring them?

Regards...jmcc

ED E · 27-03-2014 5:24pm

HellboundIRL wrote: »

How long can it take for a profile change to take effect? I rang Eircom 3 hours ago about possibly being bumped up to 70mb and was informed my line could take it and it could be 15-20min before I would see a change and my modem would reset but there's been no change on my line at all since.

It can be hard enough to get an agent who knows what you're asking for so hoping I won't have to call them back again.

If the port sees a high level of activity it will delay disconnecting the link to change profile. If it hasnt pushed within 20 minutes power cycle the modem.

HellboundIRL · 27-03-2014 5:39pm

I got the change a 30min ago

Before:

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 14 days: 21 hours: 41 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 51.280 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 51.197 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 10.0 dB 17.4 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 8 ms
Transmit Power: -16.1 dBm 12.0 dBm
Receive Power: -25.5 dBm 1.7 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 9.4 dB 10.2 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 31.330 Mbps 99.484 Mbps
============================================================================

After:

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 0 hour: 21 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.549 Mbps 71.812 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 71.672 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 9.1 dB 12.1 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 7 ms
Transmit Power: -16.2 dBm 13.1 dBm
Receive Power: -25.8 dBm 2.5 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 9.7 dB 10.5 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 29.786 Mbps 105.412 Mbps
============================================================================

(no vectoring btw)

I'm not getting the 70mb in speed or download tests though, speeds are the same as before.

tdonegan1990 · 27-03-2014 5:43pm

HellboundIRL wrote: »

I got the change a 30min ago

Before:

After:

(no vectoring btw)

I'm not getting the 70mb in speed or download tests though, speeds are the same as before.

Ring em

PeadarB · 27-03-2014 5:47pm

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 23 hours: 40 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 20.540 Mbps 87.211 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 20.479 Mbps 87.041 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 9.4 dB 12.2 dB
Actual Delay: 5 ms 6 ms
Transmit Power: -14.0 dBm 12.3 dBm
Receive Power: -24.7 dBm -2.1 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 2.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 10.6 dB 14.5 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 23.579 Mbps 111.928 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 2.3 13.6 20.0 N/A 8.1 18.6 29.7
Signal Attenuation(dB): 2.3 12.6 18.3 N/A 10.6 18.4 29.7
SNR Margin(dB): 9.5 9.4 9.4 N/A 11.9 12.0 11.9
Transmit Power(dBm):-25.0 -16.1 -19.3 N/A 7.7 7.9 7.1
============================================================================

On a fixed rate 85/20 profile.

KeRbDoG · 27-03-2014 6:16pm

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Cool, will call tomorrow so

Working with a very helpful Eircom tech support lad, I've had a lines technician check my line and it turns out that I have some sort of noise on my line.
Another person coming tomorrow/Monday to hopefully ID the interference source. If that source is found/removed/fixed then my SNR stats will get better so hopefully my upload will improve. More as I know

GLCC · 27-03-2014 7:58pm

lads,

I was switched to a 100/20 profile earlier this week as vectoring was enabled om my line. I am getting speeds of 90 / 18 on a fixed line but only 30/17 on wireless ( on 3 different devices )Do you think that the router just isnt capable of anything higher wirelessy and do i need to think about changing it for something a bit better ?

fat-tony · 27-03-2014 8:16pm

Wireless speeds are dependant on the capability of the router and the devices. I know that the VF router is theoretically capable of "N" grade but the best we have seen is 50Mb download on wireless. Other devices will bring speeds down to the lowest common denominator, so cheapie tablet or phone will degrade wireless speeds for all. You have to question though, whether you actually need really high speeds on most wireless devices unless you are downloading huge files. Streaming of full HD should be possible using 10-12 Mb/s of bandwidth. The problem with wireless is its "bursty" nature so it's difficult to guarantee continuous uncontested downloads when other devices are calling for attention. If you spend serious money on a wireless router you may well get better performance but you need to plan your configuration and ensure all devices are up to scratch.

GLCC · 27-03-2014 8:25pm

cheers fat-tony. I am very happy with current speed. Just being a bit greedy I suppose knowing that is is capable of more....

AlanS181824 · 27-03-2014 8:42pm

The main reason I'm choosing Fibre over UPC is that most of my devices get around 40Mb on wireless so 200Mb would be pointless to me. I wonder when the Carlow cabinets will be Vector enabled.

crawler · 27-03-2014 8:59pm

fat-tony wrote: »

Wireless speeds are dependant on the capability of the router and the devices. I know that the VF router is theoretically capable of "N" grade but the best we have seen is 50Mb download on wireless. Other devices will bring speeds down to the lowest common denominator, so cheapie tablet or phone will degrade wireless speeds for all. You have to question though, whether you actually need really high speeds on most wireless devices unless you are downloading huge files. Streaming of full HD should be possible using 10-12 Mb/s of bandwidth. The problem with wireless is its "bursty" nature so it's difficult to guarantee continuous uncontested downloads when other devices are calling for attention. If you spend serious money on a wireless router you may well get better performance but you need to plan your configuration and ensure all devices are up to scratch.

The HG658c has indeed 802.11n with mimo but you need 802.11n with mimo on the client side too....

crawler · 27-03-2014 9:01pm

AlanS181824 wrote: »

The main reason I'm choosing Fibre over UPC is that most of my devices get around 40Mb on wireless so 200Mb would be pointless to me. I wonder when the Carlow cabinets will be Vector enabled.

Witihn the next week all cabinets should be done.

OneEightSeven · 27-03-2014 9:11pm

crawler wrote: »

Witihn the next week all cabinets should be done.

What about the cabinets constructed in the future, do you know how long it will take for vectoring to be enabled when they go live?

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