TR072 Pharmacy

Scortho · 21-04-2013 2:28pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Out of interest... did Gilmer cover benzene metabolism last year in PH2001?

I remember a good chunk of stuff was on benzene and in his lecture outline it mentions benzene metabolism.
But I just had a quick look at his lectures from last year and nothing was In the actual lectures on its metabolism. Just the reactions benzene undergoes and substituent effects. Did he send around his lecture slides? Should be 60 something pages so Id say you'd be fine with that.
I just stuck to his slides last year and it went fine.
His question was a joke though. Two of his questions were missing on the day of the exam so made his other question into three questions. The question that he made into 3 was the one I had planned on not answering. Somehow passed but a few didn't.

FaoiSin · 21-04-2013 11:06pm

Well I suppose there's always August..

Scortho · 21-04-2013 11:19pm

JeaicMaG wrote: »

Well I suppose there's always August..

Waste of a day like myself? I read 10 pages today:eek:

FaoiSin · 21-04-2013 11:58pm

Scortho wrote: »

Waste of a day like myself? I read 10 pages today:eek:

There's just so much to get through :P Tomorrow's another day though!

Scortho · 22-04-2013 12:03am

JeaicMaG wrote: »

There's just so much to get through :P Tomorrow's another day though!

Yeah about 100 pages of radomski stuff tomorrow:rolleyes:
The exam is an mcq. Pot luck on the day so it is. and a lot of guessing

FaoiSin · 22-04-2013 12:11am

Scortho wrote: »

Yeah about 100 pages of radomski stuff tomorrow:rolleyes:
The exam is an mcq. Pot luck on the day so it is. and a lot of guessing

I have it all to look forward to so! :P Best of luck

partyatmygaff · 24-04-2013 8:31pm

Scortho, by any chance do you have or know anyone in the year who still has any PH2006 MCQs lying around?

Or if not that... what's the MCQ like?

Scortho · 24-04-2013 9:19pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Scortho, by any chance do you have or know anyone in the year who still has any PH2006 MCQs lying around?

Or if not that... what's the MCQ like?

Mcq was tough. A few of hooks questions came up! I and many others had forgotten that we had lectures with the lovely ingrid last year! And then the usual is answer 1 true but answer 2 false kind of crap that they put on.

Some people came out negative in the mcq!
That said if you covered the lectures very basically you were fine. A lot got thrown by Tammys question and ended up doing henmans. While henmans was Easy enough (copd) as you know hes a tough marker.

I don't think anyone has it unfortunately. Ill have a few of them next year though for the 3rd year modules.
Might be able to get my hands on the 2010 mcq though if that's any good to you?
Have biochem stuff somewhere as well.

partyatmygaff · 24-04-2013 9:44pm

Scortho wrote: »

Mcq was tough. A few of hooks questions came up! I and many others had forgotten that we had lectures with the lovely ingrid last year! And then the usual is answer 1 true but answer 2 false kind of crap that they put on.

I know it's hard to remember a whole year on but was it completely off the wall stuff from those massive tables and pathways in her notes or questions like "Which patient group is EPA supplementation contraindicated in?" (Which is one of things she underlined in her notes).

Some people came out negative in the mcq!
That said if you covered the lectures very basically you were fine. A lot got thrown by Tammys question and ended up doing henmans. While henmans was Easy enough (copd) as you know hes a tough marker.

To be fair, they're all hard markers in PH2006. I just hope we don't get a vitamins question like you guys did, that question looked absolutely horrific.

I don't think anyone has it unfortunately. Ill have a few of them next year though for the 3rd year modules.
Might be able to get my hands on the 2010 mcq though if that's any good to you?
Have biochem stuff somewhere as well.

Yeah if you can send on a PH2010 MCQ, that'd be fantastic. Biochem's all up on the site so that's grand.

Thanks man.

Scortho · 24-04-2013 9:56pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

I know it's hard to remember a whole year on but was it completely off the wall stuff from those massive tables and pathways in her notes or questions like "Which patient group is EPA supplementation contraindicated in?" (Which is one of things she underlined in her notes).

To be fair, they're all hard markers in PH2006. I just hope we don't get a vitamins question like you guys did, that question looked absolutely horrific.

Yeah if you can send on a PH2010 MCQ, that'd be fantastic. Biochem's all up on the site so that's grand.

Thanks man.

I can barely remember the stuff I studied yesterday never mind last year! I hadn't studied her stuff so I skipped it in the mcq!

I loved the vitamins question. I knew going in I wasn't goin to do henmans long question so had focused most of my effort on Tammys and rossi's. that said id have probably done a lot better had enteral feeding came up. Tammy and Rossi are grand I've found. Ryder can be tricky, but sometimes Henman takes the biscuit like....case in point was a lecture we had on the morning after pill this year. Spc says caution if the patient had a history of thromboembolism.
Henman says no, I rather cheekily asked what's it doing in the spc then....
His reply
they just put that in to cover themselves!
Like come on imb has approved it, spc says it, surely you can at least say oh ill check that out for you!
All said he is a great lecturer just too hard to get marks out off which is a pity because I had more interest in copd than enteral feeding.
Anyway rant over!:D

TLDR version; I can't remember the mcqs

FaoiSin · 24-04-2013 10:00pm

So what your saying id if I have a choice between answering a Henman essay or anybody else's essay I should go with anyone else? :P

Practice of Pharmacy is a hard module to study for. I mean a lot of the stuff is common sense but it's hard to put it in words..

Scortho · 24-04-2013 10:22pm

It depends on the question really if there are two questions that I know well and one is Henman ill do the other.
If there are two questions but I know Henman really well and the other ok ill do henmans.
Henman isn't the hardest to get a pass mark out of. It's when it comes to touching the 60+ level that things start to prove difficult with him.
This doesn't happen to the same extent with the other lecturers. While its still hard to get a good mark of them, it isn't as hard.

partyatmygaff · 24-04-2013 10:40pm

Scortho wrote: »

I can barely remember the stuff I studied yesterday never mind last year! I hadn't studied her stuff so I skipped it in the mcq!

Considering I usually forget the contents of an exam a minute or two after I leave the hall, can't say i'd blame you :P

Scortho · 28-04-2013 9:22pm

Abdul check your email.

abdul20013 · 28-04-2013 9:28pm

made a new account :cool:

abdul20013 · 28-04-2013 9:36pm

by the way best of luck to everyone ( maybe partyatmygaff wont need it

) but i sure do!

Scortho · 28-04-2013 9:54pm

So do I! Partyatmygaff can you gift us some of your unneeded percentages to us?
It shall be a long night!:(

FaoiSin · 28-04-2013 11:25pm

I don't usually question spot but for Biology I think I'll make an exception

Best of luck

Hopefully I can fit some sleep in tonight :P

partyatmygaff · 29-04-2013 1:50pm

Microbio went off without a hitch... sweet. How did you guys get on?
Time to dump those microbio notes somewhere far far away and move on.

FaoiSin · 29-04-2013 2:33pm

Retrovirus came up as predicted and an essay on classes of Lipids. Nice short questions so it wasn't too bad!

A_nannymoose · 29-04-2013 2:43pm

Guys what would you say is the answer to: whats the most abundant biochemical in the world and how many tonns of it are produced each year?
we got that in the biology exam today

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FaoiSin · 29-04-2013 2:56pm

A_nannymoose wrote: »

Guys what would you say is the answer to: whats the most abundant biochemical in the world and how many tonns of it are produced each year?
we got that in the biology exam today .

Cellulose and 100 billion tonnes :P Don't worry about it it's over!

A_nannymoose · 29-04-2013 2:57pm

JeaicMaG wrote: »

Retrovirus came up as predicted and an essay on classes of Lipids. Nice short questions so it wasn't too bad!

Did you get the questions about the embryo and all it's external sources of this and that, I only got the first: Amnion. Dont tell me I'm wrong!

FaoiSin · 29-04-2013 2:58pm

A_nannymoose wrote: »

Did you get the questions about the embryo and all it's external sources of this and that, I only got the first: Amnion. Dont tell me I'm wrong!

If I remember correctly "Amnion" was the answer to the first one

A_nannymoose · 29-04-2013 2:58pm

JeaicMaG wrote: »

Cellulose and 100 billion tonnes :P Don't worry about it it's over!

I was thinking cellulose but then i was like isn't that a carbohydrate....guess it's both then, I think i passed and thats all i care about tbh so I'm happy

partyatmygaff · 29-04-2013 3:12pm

Carbohydrates are biochemicals though...

(PH2008's going to be great fun next year

)

A_nannymoose · 29-04-2013 3:17pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Carbohydrates are biochemicals though...

(PH2008's going to be great fun next year )

yeah thats what i didn't relise it mixed me up at least next year when i do 2008 ill know the difference!

Scortho · 29-04-2013 5:33pm

3006 out of the way! Lovely question. misuse of drugs act. The legislation for opioid drugs is not sufficiently adequate except for methadone.
Compare the regs for methadone with that for morphine sulphate in terms of prescribing dispensing recording and storage.
Mcqs were iffy but always are at the best of times with 06.

Scortho · 29-04-2013 5:35pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Microbio went off without a hitch... sweet. How did you guys get on?
Time to dump those microbio notes somewhere far far away and move on.

Fire sounds good to me!:) or shredder! More fun with fire

FaoiSin · 03-05-2013 12:22pm

Any chance ye remember when they let people know about Physiology vivas?

Scortho · 03-05-2013 12:40pm

JeaicMaG wrote: »

Any chance ye remember when they let people know about Physiology vivas?

I think we had two exams left when the results came out.

Was it that bad???:D

FaoiSin · 03-05-2013 1:42pm

Nah I thought it went pretty well but at the same time ya never know! Only 6 more :P

partyatmygaff · 03-05-2013 4:47pm

JeaicMaG wrote: »

Any chance ye remember when they let people know about Physiology vivas?

Last year it was a bit over a week when they sent the email.

7 more exams, the first three were the nice modules... 02 and biochem/microbio.

This weekend's gonna be fun.

FaoiSin · 05-05-2013 4:45pm

How important is Sasse's stuff for 2nd year? (Spectroscopy). I'll be leaving it out for the exam I reckon because it doesn't click with me at all but would it be recommended to go over it before 2nd year?

partyatmygaff · 05-05-2013 5:21pm

Very important.

I wouldn't even leave it out of PH1003, it's potentially the most straightforward question on the paper and you'll be doing a lot of spectroscopy in the labs next year.

FaoiSin · 05-05-2013 5:59pm

That's what I feared

I don't really get the concept from her lectures. I might try the textbook so. Otherwise I'll go over it during the summer

Scortho · 05-05-2013 7:19pm

JeaicMaG wrote: »

That's what I feared I don't really get the concept from her lectures. I might try the textbook so. Otherwise I'll go over it during the summer

I passed it without it. There is a large percentage of people who don't do it....her notes are really unclear.
Even now when I read over them in asking what the hell am I reading.

I found these useful:http://astro.temple.edu/~debrosse/Lecture9.ppt they're a bit clearer.

From memory in 1st year half her marks went for knowing and understanding the beer lambert and how to use it, as well as limitations.

If you do decide to do it, I'd use anything but her notes.

FaoiSin · 06-05-2013 12:04am

I think I'll give the Fabio and Quigley question a go over it if I can :P I know how to do her calculations but the theory goes over my head. I'll catch up over the summer..

Scortho · 06-05-2013 12:24am

JeaicMaG wrote: »

I think I'll give the Fabio and Quigley question a go over it if I can :P I know how to do her calculations but the theory goes over my head. I'll catch up over the summer..

I know our year most of the question was on the beer lambert. It's fairly easy to get decent marks from that if you understand it and its limitations.

FaoiSin · 07-05-2013 10:25pm

Is the mark for first year just an average of all our marks? (PH1003 and Biology worth twice as much as the rest?)

And then we get that percentage of the 10% going for first year? Like a 50% average gives you 5% etc.?

Scortho · 07-05-2013 10:31pm

JeaicMaG wrote: »

Is the mark for first year just an average of all our marks? (PH1003 and Biology worth twice as much as the rest?)

And then we get that percentage of the 10% going for first year? Like a 50% average gives you 5% etc.?

Yep. 10% first year, 15 second year, 25 third year and 50% fourth year!
So no 1:1 for me. Will need to pull the socks up next year for sure!:)

Speaking of double weighting, you'd think they'd have the subject most relevant to what were studying...practice of pharmacy as a 10 ects but no!:(

partyatmygaff · 08-05-2013 1:23am

I'd be thankful it's not 10ECTs. The papers and all the CA are marked fairly hard relative to other modules.

partyatmygaff · 09-05-2013 5:51pm

How hard is PH2009 marked?

If the schols results are anything to go by, the standard needed for a good answer in PH2009 is sky-high. I wrote (what I thought) was a very good essay and almost (but not quite) made 60%. How did people fare last year?

Scortho · 09-05-2013 6:59pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

How hard is PH2009 marked?

If the schols results are anything to go by, the standard needed for a good answer in PH2009 is sky-high. I wrote (what I thought) was a very good essay and almost (but not quite) made 60%. How did people fare last year?

What's 2009 again? Harkin?
My trouble last year was with 3 and 4.

Therefore not too hard, but it depends what mark you're looking for!

partyatmygaff · 09-05-2013 7:27pm

Scortho wrote: »

What's 2009 again? Harkin?
My trouble last year was with 3 and 4.

Therefore not too hard, but it depends what mark you're looking for!

Harkin yeah.

04 went by without a hitch on Tuesday. 03's on Monday, should be interesting... The entire class was terrified of biotech and a good of few us pulled all-nighters (i've been awake since 7AM yesterday and i'm studying PH2009 now). Turns out there was no need as all the material on the exam was material i'd studied at the start of April. Feel like such an idiot, wasted so many hours on that module for no good reason.

Anyway... he gave most of the people who got schols in 40s-50s and very low 60s. I've got a feeling he marks the annuals a bit easier? Hopefully anyway, otherwise he must have impossibly high standards.

Scortho · 09-05-2013 7:46pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Harkin yeah.

04 went by without a hitch on Tuesday. 03's on Monday, should be interesting... The entire class was terrified of biotech and a good of few us pulled all-nighters (i've been awake since 7AM yesterday and i'm studying PH2009 now). Turns out there was no need as all the material on the exam was material i'd studied at the start of April. Feel like such an idiot, wasted so many hours on that module for no good reason.

Anyway... he gave most of the people who got schols in 40s-50s and very low 60s. I've got a feeling he marks the annuals a bit easier? Hopefully anyway, otherwise he must have impossibly high standards.

Oh I feel your pain. I've had 2 hours sleep since yesterday. Studying radomski and Frankish in one day ain't good! Got a bit of s fright in thecq when i saw more frankish to radomski. Just had a sleep there now though before sitting into sasses 02 for the evening.
Ah sure that's always the case with any study you do. Not everything will come up. In fact most of it won't. They're really unpredictable as well.

On Hawkins stuff, I knew the first 8 lectures going into the morning of the exam. Read the next few before the exam started at 2 o clock.
I was only able to answer 2 of the 3 essays (due to lack if study) and the mcqs and left after an hour.
Somehow ended up with 55. Not bad for a mornings work.

Tip for the mcq. It's true or false, so 50:50 chance of getting the mark. However examiners don't like asking negative questions in mcqs, especially true or false. It's easier for them to make up 7 false answers and mix them up amongst the paper. So if you don't know the answer guess true, as statistically it'll be in your favour.

partyatmygaff · 09-05-2013 7:51pm

Scortho wrote: »

Oh I feel your pain. I've had 2 hours sleep since yesterday. Studying radomski and Frankish in one day ain't good! Got a bit of s fright in thecq when i saw more frankish to radomski. Just had a sleep there now though before sitting into sasses 02 for the evening.

I can only imagine how horrible all that must be. Course handbook doesn't make it sound all that appealing!

On Hawkins stuff, I knew the first 8 lectures going into the morning of the exam. Read the next few before the exam started at 2 o clock.
I was only able to answer 2 of the 3 essays (due to lack if study) and the mcqs and left after an hour.
Somehow ended up with 55. Not bad for a mornings work.

That's pretty damn good for 2/3 essays and the MCQ. Each essay worth something like 18% of your total grade so you technically could've got a first had you done the third essay.

Tip for the mcq. It's true or false, so 50:50 chance of getting the mark. However examiners don't like asking negative questions in mcqs, especially true or false. It's easier for them to make up 7 false answers and mix them up amongst the paper. So if you don't know the answer guess true, as statistically it'll be in your favour.

Hopefully won't need that! Questions seem nice enough.

Scortho · 09-05-2013 7:55pm

partyatmygaff wrote: »

I can only imagine how horrible all that must be. Course handbook doesn't make it sound all that appealing!

That's pretty damn good for 2/3 essays and the MCQ. Each essay worth something like 18% of your total grade so you technically could've got a first had you done the third essay.

Hopefully won't need that! Questions seem nice enough.

It was the true false that helped me. Had I not answered the ones I didn't know I'd have been borderline pass.

Yeah her stuff isn't nice this year, not that sasse stuff ever is nice!:( I've left it to last though and quigs has 2 questions. Exam not for another week so if I can scrape a few marks from her question should be fine!

partyatmygaff · 09-05-2013 8:06pm

Two Quigley questions usually spells a pass!

(Although looking at those PH3002 papers is quite scary, it looks hellish)

FaoiSin · 09-05-2013 9:40pm

For the PH1006 MCQs what does it mean by "2nd statement is a correct explanation of the 1st". For example:

First statement:
The EU has a policy of supporting the development of Orphan Medicinal Products.

Second statement:
Orphan Medicinal Products are used in the management of rare diseases and it would not be profitable for companies to develop them without support.

I think both are true but would the second be considered an explanation?

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