Best vehicle

Valmont · 17-08-2009 10:43pm

_SONIC_ wrote: »

probably a humvee could ram down the zombies!!!

sadly petrol is a big problem but you could drive around ireland kiling zombies and draining petrol pumps!!!

They would be drained very quickly in the event of a nation wide outbreak.

Kiith · 17-08-2009 11:21pm

Bike for me. Get yourself a good, tough mountain bike, and it can last you a long time. Granted you can't carry much on it, but its durable, light and can get you across most/if not all terrains. Use it for scouting, or quick runs to nearby locations where speed is important.

karlog · 18-08-2009 12:54am

If gas mileage isn't an issue then

armored bulldozer FTW

_SONIC_ · 18-08-2009 1:27pm

karlog wrote: »

If gas mileage isn't an issue then

armored bulldozer FTW

thats total badass. im pretty sure i want one of them for christmas!!!!

Kromdar · 18-08-2009 6:18pm

karlog wrote: »

If gas mileage isn't an issue then

...

armored bulldozer FTW

needs moar machineguns.

ScumLord · 18-08-2009 6:37pm

Valmont wrote: »

They would be drained very quickly in the event of a nation wide outbreak.

I really don't think that's going to happen here. How often do Irish people fill up their cars? I fill mine about once every two weeks. My car will go from Dublin to Galway, back to Galway and half way to Dublin again, probably more if I took it easier.

There's a hell of allot of diesel out there in private tanks on farms, in homes and at any business that has it's own fleets of vehicles. There isn't a culture of hoarding things during a crisis or natural disaster like their is in the states. Our natural disasters are usually over in the space of a day and any crisis that lasts longer Irish have a tendency to try and leave the country rather than stock up and stick it out.

Agent J · 19-08-2009 12:39am

The bike is the best option for long term transport.

Any kind of car risks running into jams of other cars, running out of fuel.

If you are moving in the early stages of an attack then a Jeep or something with enough open space to have a bike prepped and ready to go.

The other thing to consider about any sort of mechanised transport. They make noise. Noise tends to attrack them or other people desperate for a lift.

BaconZombie · 12-11-2009 2:42pm

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Evolute · 15-11-2009 1:21am

Agent J wrote: »

The bike is the best option for long term transport.

Any kind of car risks running into jams of other cars, running out of fuel.

If you are moving in the early stages of an attack then a Jeep or something with enough open space to have a bike prepped and ready to go.

The other thing to consider about any sort of mechanised transport. They make noise. Noise tends to attrack them or other people desperate for a lift.

The bike is the worst option going all it has for it is it doesnt use petrol. It offers no protection and is the most stupid option to be picked to date!!!.

Lets face it anyone who said a bike thought about it too much and there is a high chance that they have terrible cardio and will get tired and stop and be eaten.
Yes a car can breakdown but there are hundreds of thousands of cars so getting another one is not going to be a problem.
A small engined car is the best plan for milege protection.

Micky Dolenz · 15-11-2009 11:07am

Evolute wrote: »

The bike is the worst option going all it has for it is it doesnt use petrol. It offers no protection and is the most stupid option to be picked to date!!!.

Lets face it anyone who said a bike thought about it too much and there is a high chance that they have terrible cardio and will get tired and stop and be eaten.
Yes a car can breakdown but there are hundreds of thousands of cars so getting another one is not going to be a problem.
A small engined car is the best plan for milege protection.

Cars can only be driven on roads though, There will be sections of roads that will be completely impassable. A motorbike, off road type may be a good option, I wouldn't discount a push bike either, silent and can be carried up stairs etc.

Evolute · 15-11-2009 11:32pm

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Cars can only be driven on roads though, There will be sections of roads that will be completely impassable. A motorbike, off road type may be a good option, I wouldn't discount a push bike either, silent and can be carried up stairs etc.

A push bike is a silly choice its grand for short sprints but I still think that a car or an off road jeep is the best choice. Motorbikes are and option but anything that is powered by your own kinetic energy is a silly option and yeh push bikes can be brought up stairs but what use is that your not gonna cycle around the second or third story of a building.

Micky Dolenz · 16-11-2009 9:04am

Evolute wrote: »

and yeh push bikes can be brought up stairs but what use is that your not gonna cycle around the second or third story of a building.

I was thinking more of steep steps that connect streets, or stairs upto bridges etc. A push bike can be carreid over/around obstacles.

Frank Drebin · 16-11-2009 4:32pm

karlog wrote: »

If gas mileage isn't an issue then

armored bulldozer FTW

Can't compete with that... :cool:

Could do with one of these in Dundrum shopping centre on a Saturday afternoon though

GavRedKing · 16-11-2009 4:57pm

A push bike is one of the easiest options, yes we all want armoured 4x4 flame throwing,chainsaw mounted, gun touret, 6 tonne beasts but the we dont have any in this country and to maintain and to run some of the more extreme things mentioned here is just not possible to 99% of the popluation.

My first option would be a quad bike or dirt bike with a few cans of petrol and failing that a push bike, as Mickey said its easy to bring with you should you need to get out of harms way and get to a barricade or upper floors.

Push bike and energy bars FTW

ScumLord · 16-11-2009 5:06pm

I'd have many concerns over the use of a motorbike. Firstly I can't really ride a bike, I did try riding a trials bike off-road and it didn't go well. The main point being if you can't currently ride a bike don't choose one as your mode of transport during an outbreak, they require skill to ride and even more skill to ride off-road. The other thing is they may not be that great at dealing with the knee deep muck you'll come across in the wet Irish countryside. The only vehicles suitable for off-road in Ireland IMO are tractors, quads or proper work land rovers like the ESB or old farmers would have.

It's also worth having a look at google earth to see just how many roads there are in Ireland. There's always at least 4 or 5 ways to get to the same place. Everyone should invest in a good detailed map, most Irish road maps don't show half the roads in the country.

Evolute · 19-11-2009 3:33am

Everyone who said push bike will probably die in the first 5 months because of stupidity the whole point of using a car is you can ditch it and find another one if your trying to get up steps lets face it if your running from zombies your not going to pick up a bike and run up steps your gonna leave that there and run for your life.

Zulu · 19-11-2009 8:12am

In fairness, bikes are a great idea - they'll keep the competition down!

ScumLord · 19-11-2009 2:12pm

If your working out of a base location a bike would be a good idea though. You'll know the area your travelling through, it's quiet, easy to dump and most of all will keep you fit and reserve fuel for more critical tasks.

Over long distances and when travelling through unknown areas an enclosed vehicle. It'll provide cover when sleeping, allow you to carry the supplies you'll need and possibly extra supplies to deal with emergencys.

Zulu · 19-11-2009 2:39pm

ScumLord wrote: »

If your working out of a base location a bike would be a good idea though. You'll know the area your travelling through, it's quiet, easy to dump and most of all will keep you fit and reserve fuel for more critical tasks.

Over long distances and when travelling through unknown areas an enclosed vehicle. It'll provide cover when sleeping, allow you to carry the supplies you'll need and possibly extra supplies to deal with emergencys.

Ok, this I can kinda accept, only one thing though: if you were coming from a base location, travelling through an area you know, what would you be doing that would warrant taking the risk of a bike? Don't get me wrong, keeping fit is a major positive, but the risk...
Way I reckon it, you'd be on a supplies run - why else risk leaving the base - so you'd want a boot. You wouldn't be carrying much on a bike.

...stealth & fitness though. Very positive points.

ScumLord · 19-11-2009 2:52pm

Zulu wrote: »

Ok, this I can kinda accept, only one thing though: if you were coming from a base location, travelling through an area you know, what would you be doing that would warrant taking the risk of a bike? Don't get me wrong, keeping fit is a major positive, but the risk...
Way I reckon it, you'd be on a supplies run - why else risk leaving the base - so you'd want a boot. You wouldn't be carrying much on a bike.

...stealth & fitness though. Very positive points.

Bikes where used for transporting goods before the car came along, it all depends how precious you want to make your diesel and petrol, remember the only fuel you'l have access to is whatever on this island so making it last is essential.

I think it's likely people will be spread out, manning century posts, on patrol, tending food crops.

aaronjumper · 19-11-2009 2:56pm

How about a solar powered car?

Aodan83 · 19-11-2009 11:20pm

Warthog. Mini gun or Gauss cannon attached. Only takes 3, or 2 and supplies in the passenger seat, but it would be damn handy in a tight spot.

Cianos · 20-11-2009 1:48am

Everyone saying that a car is better than a bicycle are probably forgetting that most roads out of any population centre are going to look like this. What use is a car then? A bicycle will let you zip in and out of the cars in silence. You can turn 180 if needs be in a second, with minimal turning radius...something you can't do on a motorbike. Plus with the noise of the motorbike you'll be attracting every zombie close by.

Kiith · 20-11-2009 4:18am

Evolute wrote: »

Everyone who said push bike will probably die in the first 5 months because of stupidity the whole point of using a car is you can ditch it and find another one if your trying to get up steps lets face it if your running from zombies your not going to pick up a bike and run up steps your gonna leave that there and run for your life.

When your stuck in a traffic jam with the zombie horde shambling towards you, i'll be off road cycling at a few miles an hour faster then they are. You can go for hours at an easy pace on a bike, which is a hell of a lot faster then you suckers in cars will be going once the panic starts.

Plus, assuming you do manage to survive, good luck keeping your car's fueled up. All i need is a puncture repair kit and a pump. Bike all the way for me.

S9M95 · 21-11-2009 7:34pm

A Smart Car,low milage and very agile,good for swerving around crowds of zombies.

Valmont · 21-11-2009 8:39pm

Think of the rate at which the main roads will decay after Z day. Trees will fall across roads and cars will pile up. A car may be advantageous to some extent but face it; you're not going to be travelling all over the country having a grand old time. I really think a mountain bike or a proper off road vehicle is the only way to go.

Manic Moran · 22-11-2009 1:15pm

Seems like people are missing the obvious. Get a Hummer and put a bike rack on it. As long as you've got gas, you can drive around almost anywhere. If, for some reason, you run out of fuel, ditch the truck and go with the bike.

Where's the problem?

NTM

Ginja Ninja · 22-11-2009 2:50pm

I don't suppose anyone has taken the fuel economy of a hummer into account,have they?

I'm not 100% sure on this but as I last heard it was ~3-5 miles to the liter/gallon[my have been american measurement].

these things eat fuel

Micky Dolenz · 22-11-2009 2:57pm

Manic Moran wrote: »

Seems like people are missing the obvious. Get a Hummer and put a bike rack on it. As long as you've got gas, you can drive around almost anywhere. If, for some reason, you run out of fuel, ditch the truck and go with the bike.

Where's the problem?

NTM

Nearly all of us don't live on an army base where Hummers are plentiful. Finding a Hummer in Ireland may be difficult. Now tractors could be a soloution, all terrain and plentiful....mmm, worth a thought.

Gourmet · 14-01-2010 4:29pm

What if we could combine the safety of a heavy vehicle with the endurance of a bicycle?

What if we could combine a civilian vehicle available almost everywhere with a ersatz zombie incineration system?

Well, the long lasting, zombie crushing and toasting future is here already.

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Get yourself down to a furl distribution depot at the nearest port and get a 28000 litre tanker of diesel.

The cab will get between 2 and 3.5 km per litre so you can keep going for perhaps 75000km which should be enough to keep one step ahead of the zombie hoards.

Best of all with a little MacGyvering you'll have a mobile flame thrower as well.

Zombie advice centre - There for you when they're after you.

Zulu · 14-01-2010 4:45pm

Just be bloody careful with that flame thrower!!! :eek:

geeky · 14-01-2010 11:10pm

Would any badass car (naturally, with run-flat tires) and a bike in the boot not be the best compromise? Or is that just cheating?

geeky · 14-01-2010 11:17pm

Gourmet wrote: »

What if we could combine the safety of a heavy vehicle with the endurance of a bicycle?

What if we could combine a civilian vehicle available almost everywhere with a ersatz zombie incineration system?

Well, the long lasting, zombie crushing and toasting future is here already.

Get yourself down to a furl distribution depot at the nearest port and get a 28000 litre tanker of diesel.

The cab will get between 2 and 3.5 km per litre so you can keep going for perhaps 75000km which should be enough to keep one step ahead of the zombie hoards.

Best of all with a little MacGyvering you'll have a mobile flame thrower as well.

Zombie advice centre - There for you when they're after you.

Masses of petrol and a flame thrower. What could possibly go wrong?!

Mahatma coat · 15-01-2010 11:54am

sorta like this Badboy

I love the bonnet details

ScumLord · 15-01-2010 1:22pm

Manic Moran wrote: »

Seems like people are missing the obvious. Get a Hummer and put a bike rack on it. As long as you've got gas, you can drive around almost anywhere. If, for some reason, you run out of fuel, ditch the truck and go with the bike.

Where's the problem?

NTM

If you get the early military spec ones they might be worth getting but the civilian ones are absolute shyte, a joke of a car by all accounts. There just not really suited to Irish roads either, their gigantic, have poor visibility and aren't particularly good off road. If you want a good off roader go for a land rover.

Encoder1970 · 15-01-2010 1:32pm

Casspir APC, used in ZA for over 20 years.
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Mahatma coat · 15-01-2010 2:25pm

Oh another handy source of Diesel would be Home heatin systems, although the more modern ones run on kerro there are still al lot of diesel ones ot there, most would have a few hundred litres in the tanks

ScumLord · 15-01-2010 2:36pm

Encoder1970 wrote: »

Casspir APC, used in ZA for over 20 years.

Is that the yolk they had in district 9? Looks awesome, only problem being it probably uses huge amounts of fuel. You have to keep it's fuel consumption in mind because while there'll be loads to begin with it's a finite resource.

Green Back · 15-01-2010 2:45pm

S9M95 wrote: »

A Smart Car,low milage and very agile,good for swerving around crowds of zombies.

You don't have to worry about petrol with this beauty

Siegfried · 15-01-2010 3:39pm

Jeez before i enter in this topic i was imagening a Hummer or somethings like that, not these bad fellows up there.

Mahatma coat · 16-01-2010 12:57am

Just to go a littl emor Lo tech again

What about a Horse??

Pete M. · 16-01-2010 1:16am

efla wrote: »

Its the only guaranteed sustainable option

Think sustainability will have been replaced as a priority consideration during the zombocalypse.

Me, I'd go for a Mowag if there happened to be one standing around Finner. Would pick it up while collecting arms, or a custom armoured land rover defender like what the psni have or the unimog. They are surely an animal of a yolk.

Would carry a bike on board though, for exercise like when away from population centres and hordes of zeds. Definitely wouldn't want to be looking over me shoulder, peddlin like the clappers with some sprinters after me and glass all over the place, never mind the potholes there are knocking around these days.
Some are so big you could drown an ass in them as a roscommonese friend of mine said the other day.

Encoder1970 · 17-01-2010 5:41pm

ScumLord wrote: »

Is that the yolk they had in district 9? Looks awesome, only problem being it probably uses huge amounts of fuel. You have to keep it's fuel consumption in mind because while there'll be loads to begin with it's a finite resource.

The very same. Your right about the fuel being a problem.
Fuel/consumption: 220 litre fuel tank / 25 litres per hour www.casr.ca/bg-casspir.htm
Maybe a forerunner in a convoy with fuel trucks or hook a trailer with an fuel tank onto it?

ScumLord · 17-01-2010 7:21pm

All military vehicles have terrible fuel economy it's just the nature of the military better sure than sorry. Overall I think this makes them useless as a transport vehicle but you can't overlook the armour and weapons. If I did get my hands on some, after the fact, I'd scavenge them for the turret and guns and put the armour to other uses.

Ginja Ninja · 17-01-2010 11:27pm

if you're lucky enough to get a military vehicle My plan would be to place it behind the barricaded exit to my base,is we're breached hop in the fully gassed up tiger II tank and GTFO in epic style,it'd attract too much attention/be too wasteful except as a last resort

Mahatma coat · 18-01-2010 5:41am

Ah yes the Aul King Tiger

So Long as the Hordes dont get their paws on 5-7 Shermans / 2-3 T32's at the same time you should be fine

:D:D

Coriolanus · 26-06-2011 8:17pm

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Just to go a littl emor Lo tech again

What about a Horse??

Can you ride one, well? If not your as liable to get yourself killed on it. I can't imagine the horse will take too well to the Zs, it's going to be spooked, hard to control etc.

Carter P Fly · 27-06-2011 4:07pm

I'd be collecting me a fleet of 90's model diesel stationwagons especially volvos!!!!!!!

Id have a bike and a moped stashed in the back, plenty of those will be lying around.

Reason for the old diesels is they will run off veg oil, any diesel or home heating oil.

Bike for reasons discussed and mopeds because they can be fast enough to outrun zeds and they are common enough to gather up a fair few and use them as required.

Blitzkrieger · 28-06-2011 12:52pm

After Sunday night's Top Gear I'm going to say the Marauder. The thing drove through a wall without a scratch, and drove away from having 7 pounds of C4 detonated under it. It had a tyre blown off the rim, but it drove away.

Sticky_Fingers · 28-06-2011 7:47pm

Well the choice of transport will depend on a lot of factors, the main one for me beings: slow or fast initial infection, projected length of outbreak and where you are in it.

If the outbreak is rapid and catches the majority of the population unawares then expect here to be large caches of fuel and food ripe for the pickings. Assuming you have a safe unobstructed route out of the city/town then I would take a large 4WD vehicle (and as per Manic Morans suggestion strap a bicycle to the back). It would be important to ensure that this vehicle had some sort of winch on it to help clear the inevitable wrecks and obstacles that you will encounter. It is important to note that in such a situation the undead will not be your only concern, desperate panicking people will more than likely try and relieve you of your transport which would be another plus for a large vehicle over a bike in this regard.

For a slow slid into social collapse I would choose a bike if I was stupid enough not to have gotten out earlier. In this situation the resources needed to fuel a vehicle will more than likely will have been depleted around the country. While not an ideal situation since it leaves you vulnerable to human scavengers and the undead (particularly in an urban environment) it would beat the hell out of walking and would allow you to carry far more gear a much longer distance faster then you would on foot.

Some of the previous points will lead into the second vital criteria that must be looked at and that is the length of the expected outbreak and how far you are actually along in it. For the early stages of an outbreak, slow or fast, a 4WD is ideal since there should be still some fuel left and you are hopefully ahead of the masses evacuating the towns and cities leading to less congestion on the roads. If it is in the later stages then a bike will probably be you only option given the lack of fuel and the state of the roads. Forget about abandoning your vehicle in the hopes of picking up a new one down the road or finding a fresh source of fuel, cars will only have been abandoned for a very good reason, because there is no fuel nearby or there is an impassible obstacle in the way. Without a backup bike you are now walking, the worst of all possible situations to find yourself in.

It is also important to note that if the outbreak lasts more than 12-18 months it really doesn't matter what the initial conditions were like or the remaining fuel supply, you are going to be pedaling everywhere by this stage. This is because the fuel in the tanks/petrol stations/depots will have gone bad (yes, petrol and diesel do have a use by date) so make sure to factor this into your plans.

To summarise:
Slow infection/early stages: get into your 4*4 and away from the major cities before the masses

Slow decline/middle to late stages: Only viable option is a bicycle due to lack of fuel and road conditions.

Fast infection early stage/middle stages: 4*4 once again

Anything over 12-18 months: Unlikely any motorised transport will work after regardless of volume of remaining stocks (unless you are able to make fresh bio diesel)

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