Dark Souls

Mickeroo · 23-06-2014 9:58am

The sword Stone Deaf tells you how to get is a great early game weapon, used it myself, but you grow out of it quickly once you start being able to upgrade your weapons. Even the most basic of regular swords will outperform it once it's been reinforced.

Look up scaling on the wikis, if you're planning on staying as a melee character decide whether you want to wield big powerful weapons like great swords or faster ones like katanas or the Balder Side Sword (which can be found early in the game but will require some farming). You're better off putting your stats into one of Strength or Dexterity not both. Also don't waste souls on levelling up resistence, it's useless.

stuchyg · 23-06-2014 10:04am

Starting playing thanks to GWG. Level 21 now and only just defeated my mate on the bridge. Nearly crapped myself with a warning afterwards so knocked it off last night before proceeding further.

Can someone please tell me what exactly is the point of humanity

noodler · 23-06-2014 10:12am

You can Either be human (with your body) or hollow (without your body).

If you consume a piece of humanity (i.e. your counter on top left of screen goes up to 1) then you can 'use' this by selecting the 'reverse hollowing' option at any bonfire.

Once human you are free to be invaded but also free to summon help for boss fights.

23-06-2014 10:14am

Mickeroo wrote: »

The sword Stone Deaf tells you how to get is a great early game weapon, used it myself, but you grow out of it quickly once you start being able to upgrade your weapons. Even the most basic of regular swords will outperform it once it's been reinforced.

Look up scaling on the wikis, if you're planning on staying as a melee character decide whether you want to wield big powerful weapons like great swords or faster ones like katanas or the Balder Side Sword (which can be found early in the game but will require some farming). You're better off putting your stats into one of Strength or Dexterity not both. Also don't waste souls on levelling up resistence, it's useless.

Yes I just did a bit of research on this, I upgraded my weapon and its nearly 150 DM already. The thing I don't like about that sword (from what I'm reading now) is you can't upgrade it.

I have been putting my stats upgrades into strength and vitality.

I'm stuck on some big bastard in a church kind of an area now, he's got a huge shield. He's very near where you first find the blacksmith.

Think there also is some kind of electric boss that I haven't gone near yet...(I ran down some steps and he fired a bolt of electricity so I ran back up :P

Mickeroo · 23-06-2014 10:28am

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Yes I just did a bit of research on this, I upgraded my weapon and its nearly 150 DM already. The thing I don't like about that sword (from what I'm reading now) is you can't upgrade it.

I have been putting my stats upgrades into strength and vitality.
I'm stuck on some big bastard in a church kind of an area now, he's got a huge shield. He's very near where you first find the blacksmith.

Think there also is some kind of electric boss that I haven't gone near yet...(I ran down some steps and he fired a bolt of electricity so I ran back up :P

Draw him outside,

his attacks are very slow and easy to dodge and there's more space out there to strafe around him. I think I killed they guy firing magic at you with a bow and arrow, he could one shot you if you're not careful. another good reason to draw the knight outside before you fight him.

basically make your way towards the roof of the cvhurch, you're on the right track anyway.

Digital Solitude · 23-06-2014 11:09am

Is there much activity on the PS3 version? I should have just bought a 360 when I was going console for this

2smiggy · 23-06-2014 11:44am

i'd imagine there would be alot more action on the PS3 version, even with given free/discount ? on the xbox.

I think i might go back and start another character soon for it. Nearly know it off by heart at this stage :eek:

23-06-2014 11:59am

Mickeroo wrote: »

Draw him outside,
his attacks are very slow and easy to dodge and there's more space out there to strafe around him. I think I killed they guy firing magic at you with a bow and arrow, he could one shot you if you're not careful. another good reason to draw the knight outside before you fight him.

basically make your way towards the roof of the cvhurch, you're on the right track anyway.

Sound will give this a try this evening and let you know

To note there is another guy close buy at the top of spiral stairs that has a similar sword. It's like a massive hammer. I tried to run away but he killed me in one hit :P

Mickeroo · 23-06-2014 12:06pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Sound will give this a try this evening and let you know
To note there is another guy close buy at the top of spiral stairs that has a similar sword. It's like a massive hammer. I tried to run away but he killed me in one hit :P

Was it just before where you meet the big armoured boar? If so it was a black knight. They're tough that early in the game, there is a cheap way to kill that one though

if you have killed all the hollows around where the armoured boar was get the black knights attention and get him to after you. Go to the fire on the left, keep the fire between you and him and he will kill himself trying to get to you

23-06-2014 12:10pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Was it just before where you meet the big armoured boar? If so it was a black knight. They're tough that early in the game, there is a cheap way to kill that one though
if you have killed all the hollows around where the armoured boar was get the black knights attention and get him to after you. Go to the fire on the left, keep the fire between you and him and he will kill himself trying to get to you

Yep, that's the one

I killed the boar with firebombs

I presume you mean the dude tied to a stick on fire? Does he respawn if you use a campfire?

I will give that a go this evening too.

Mickeroo · 23-06-2014 12:14pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Yep, that's the one
I killed the boar with firebombs

I presume you mean the dude tied to a stick on fire? Does he respawn if you use a campfire?

I will give that a go this evening too.

I mean the fire in the left of this pic:

I don't think the black knights respawn but I can't remember.

derfderf · 23-06-2014 12:18pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

I mean the fire in the left of this pic:

I don't think the black knights respawn but I can't remember.

They only respawn at the klin

Mickeroo · 23-06-2014 12:19pm

Black Knight Shield is also one of the best in the game btw, so hold on to it if they drop one.

23-06-2014 12:24pm

derfderf wrote: »

They only respawn at the klin

The klin

Mickeroo · 23-06-2014 12:26pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

The klin

Think they meant Kiln, long long way to go before you have to worry about that

Stone Deaf 4evr · 23-06-2014 12:54pm

was picking up moss for my journey back into the depths last night and ended up heading down into darkroot basin. I ended up stumbling across a dark knight but was able to easily defeat him. I dont know if this tactic will work for others but might be worth a shot.

was fighting him on a hill and managed to get downhill of him, from there, by keeping my distance slightly, most of his attacks went over my head. i ended up with a spear or halberd thats well above my level to wield, - need 35 strength

M!ck - might be worth putting some points into endurance - I've done so and reckon its a good way to go for a melee build as I was finding it frustrating to be out of gas after 2 or 3 sword swings / shield blocks.

Mickeroo · 23-06-2014 12:58pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

M!ck - might be worth putting some points into endurance - I've done so and reckon its a good way to go for a melee build as I was finding it frustrating to be out of gas after 2 or 3 sword swings / shield blocks.

Points in VIT and END are never a waste. Also once you hit 40 STR or DEX it's diminishing returns and won't increase your damage output much after that.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 23-06-2014 1:01pm

I did something that surprised myself at the weekend, i went away and bought a brand new wireless controller - solely for playing this - the one I have is there since I got the 360 and the bumper for blocking occasionally wouldnt register.

I felt it was the least I could do when i got the game for free!

calex71 · 23-06-2014 2:07pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

was picking up moss for my journey back into the depths last night and ended up heading down into darkroot basin. I ended up stumbling across a dark knight but was able to easily defeat him. I dont know if this tactic will work for others but might be worth a shot.
was fighting him on a hill and managed to get downhill of him, from there, by keeping my distance slightly, most of his attacks went over my head. i ended up with a spear or halberd thats well above my level to wield, - need 35 strength

M!ck - might be worth putting some points into endurance - I've done so and reckon its a good way to go for a melee build as I was finding it frustrating to be out of gas after 2 or 3 sword swings / shield blocks.

He was guarding a pretty valuable shield so hopefully you picked it up, very useful when two handing weapons as even if its on your back it gives a stamina regen buff.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 23-06-2014 2:41pm

calex71 wrote: »

He was guarding a pretty valuable shield so hopefully you picked it up, very useful when two handing weapons as even if its on your back it gives a stamina regen buff.

yup, got it and equipped it.

as a matter of interest, how do you know that the shield boosts stamina? I can see under the health/stamina bar a shield icon with a series of arrows, but how do you tell what they actually boost?

Mickeroo · 23-06-2014 2:53pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

yup, got it and equipped it.

as a matter of interest, how do you know that the shield boosts stamina? I can see under the health/stamina bar a shield icon with a series of arrows, but how do you tell what they actually boost?

It should say it in the item description in your inventory if I'm not mistaken. There should be a way to change view or something so you can see it.

You could spend a whole evening reading item descriptions as a lot of the back story to certain characters is filled in that way.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 23-06-2014 3:21pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

It should say it in the item description in your inventory if I'm not mistaken. There should be a way to change view or something so you can see it.

You could spend a whole evening reading item descriptions as a lot of the back story to certain characters is filled in that way.

I can honestly say, that beyond what pops up in the loading screens, I have seen zero descriptions. must browse a bit deeper later. :rolleyes:

Stone Deaf 4evr · 23-06-2014 11:47pm

Made good progress tonight, got through the depths - the boss there was a bit of a letdown, I managed to defeat it first time round. Have to start pumping points into strength I think, starting to come across a few weapons I'm not able to wield now.

calex71 · 24-06-2014 12:04am

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Made good progress tonight, got through the depths - the boss there was a bit of a letdown, I managed to defeat it first time round. Have to start pumping points into strength I think, starting to come across a few weapons I'm not able to wield now.

Two handing will reduce the requirements needed in many cases.

Cravez · 24-06-2014 8:25am

calex71 wrote: »

Two handing will reduce the requirements needed in many cases.

For Strength, definitely, unfortunately if a weapon has a high Dexterity requirement you can't two-hand it to wield effectively.

What weapon are you currently using Stone Deaf?

Stone Deaf 4evr · 24-06-2014 9:01am

Cravez wrote: »

For Strength, definitely, unfortunately if a weapon has a high Dexterity requirement you can't two-hand it to wield effectively.

What weapon are you currently using Stone Deaf?

Currently using the drake sword but I have the great axe I got from that last boss's tail and also have a halberd or spear I picked up from a black night. It was getting late when I stopped so I didn't try either out yet. I also have a zweihander that looks gas.

Cravez · 24-06-2014 9:05am

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Currently using the drake sword but I have the great axe I got from that last boss's tail and also have a halberd or spear I picked up from a black night. It was getting late when I stopped so I didn't try either out yet. I also have a zweihander that looks gas.

The Drake sword loses it's effectiveness pretty soon, you'll most definitely want to change weapon and upgrade it with titinate. The Zweihander is one of the best weapons in the game in regards damage output once it's fully upgraded so it might be worth giving it a try. The only downside is it is heavy&slow but it's normal attack is a large arc swipe which would take out most things in a 180 degree radius.

The Black Knight Halberd if you do indeed have it would be a very good weapon to use throughout the game. I think it upgrades with either Twinkling or Demon Titinate however.

24-06-2014 10:39am

Mickeroo wrote: »

Was it just before where you meet the big armoured boar? If so it was a black knight. They're tough that early in the game, there is a cheap way to kill that one though
if you have killed all the hollows around where the armoured boar was get the black knights attention and get him to after you. Go to the fire on the left, keep the fire between you and him and he will kill himself trying to get to you

So here's the update.

I managed to kill

The large guy that fires the electricity last night, the guy in the church, the priest thing in the church, the dude at the top of the spiral stairs by leading him out to the fire and also the other guy at the bottom of the spiral stairs leading towards the large green area with all the dudes that look like bushes!

So now I'm stuck again

There's a bird type boss at the end of the green forest area and he's out of range so no idea what I'm supposed to do. Also that dragon on the bridge is pissing me off :mad:

noodler · 24-06-2014 10:44am

M!Ck^ wrote: »

So here's the update.

I managed to kill
The large guy that fires the electricity last night, the guy in the church, the priest thing in the church, the dude at the top of the spiral stairs by leading him out to the fire and also the other guy at the bottom of the spiral stairs leading towards the large green area with all the dudes that look like bushes!

So now I'm stuck again
There's a bird type boss at the end of the green forest area and he's out of range so no idea what I'm supposed to do. Also that dragon on the bridge is pissing me off :mad:

The Butterlfy does land eventually and will go down incredibly easily.

Failing that, buy a cheap bow and arrows.

Cravez · 24-06-2014 11:06am

M!Ck^ wrote: »

So now I'm stuck again
There's a bird type boss at the end of the green forest area and he's out of range so no idea what I'm supposed to do. Also that dragon on the bridge is pissing me off :mad:

You can

summon Witch Beatrice before the boss fight, her sign is located under a shrub under the stairs just before the boss fog. She does magic damage and makes the fight alot easier.

Digital Solitude · 24-06-2014 11:07am

M!Ck^ wrote: »

So here's the update.

I managed to kill
The large guy that fires the electricity last night, the guy in the church, the priest thing in the church, the dude at the top of the spiral stairs by leading him out to the fire and also the other guy at the bottom of the spiral stairs leading towards the large green area with all the dudes that look like bushes!

So now I'm stuck again
There's a bird type boss at the end of the green forest area and he's out of range so no idea what I'm supposed to do. Also that dragon on the bridge is pissing me off :mad:

Did you kill the blacksmith or am I reading that wrong? He's massive, with long dirty black hair and a similar beard. If you killed him start again, it won't take so long the second time.

For the Red dragon on the bridge, run up, and then down so he kills the hollows, and then stand behind the wall as close to where the bridge narrows as possible. When he jumps LEG IT! And pull into the right or left as soon as the bridge widens again, to avoid his fire breath. And then you can stroll into the bonfire.

If you time your rolls properly with high magic resistant gear, the moonlight butterfly shouldn't hit you much, if at all. When it lands go to town on it, and when it starts making a noise, back way up, as it causes a magic explosion or something

24-06-2014 11:20am

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Did you kill the blacksmith or am I reading that wrong? He's massive, with long dirty black hair and a similar beard. If you killed him start again, it won't take so long the second time.

For the Red dragon on the bridge, run up, and then down so he kills the hollows, and then stand behind the wall as close to where the bridge narrows as possible. When he jumps LEG IT! And pull into the right or left as soon as the bridge widens again, to avoid his fire breath. And then you can stroll into the bonfire.

If you time your rolls properly with high magic resistant gear, the moonlight butterfly shouldn't hit you much, if at all. When it lands go to town on it, and when it starts making a noise, back way up, as it causes a magic explosion or something

No the Blacksmith is alive and kicking (been upgrading my weapons) I was talking about

the other way to enter the green area on the opposite side, I used the master key on the door.

Ok I will give the above a try this evening.

Mickeroo · 24-06-2014 11:22am

Did you fight the boss on the roof of the church?

calex71 · 24-06-2014 11:27am

For the moonlight butterfly summon witch beatrice, her sign is difficult to spot its under the stairs before you go up the tower for the fight, she'll make bits of that pesky moth.

If you are looking to progress the story you need to set about ringing those bells mentioned at the start of the game. Roof of the church as Mickeroo suggests.

Also there really is no need to be looking to kill the hellkite right now , her tail will suffice if you didn't get the drake sword yet and want one.

Edit: Actually I would highly recommend summoning witch b for the butterfly fight, as she may be useful cannon fodder later but only if you summon her for that fight first.

24-06-2014 12:00pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Did you fight the boss on the roof of the church?

Hmm no, how do you get up there?

There was somebody locked in a cell at the top of the church area (Past the priest kind of mini-boss), I opened it and they promised a reward but said I had to wait.

24-06-2014 12:01pm

calex71 wrote: »

For the moonlight butterfly summon witch beatrice, her sign is difficult to spot its under the stairs before you go up the tower for the fight, she'll make bits of that pesky moth.

If you are looking to progress the story you need to set about ringing those bells mentioned at the start of the game. Roof of the church as Mickeroo suggests.

Also there really is no need to be looking to kill the hellkite right now , her tail will suffice if you didn't get the drake sword yet and want one.

Edit: Actually I would highly recommend summoning witch b for the butterfly fight, as she may be useful cannon fodder later but only if you summon her for that fight first.

Story progress?? :pac::pac::pac:

It's very unclear what your actually supposed to be doing other than fighting.

Mickeroo · 24-06-2014 12:03pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Hmm no, how do you get up there?

There was somebody locked in a cell, I opened it and they promised a reward but said I had to wait.

The opposite end of the 2nd floor to the cell you'll find a ladder up, basically rather than looping around to where the cell is go straight on from the place the mob of hollows attack you.

You'll see a fog gate, when you go through there'll be a cut scene and then a boss fight. If you're in human form you should be able to summon Solaire (who gave you the white soap stone) and the guy you freed from the cell, their signs should be on the ground outside the gate.

Oh and don't listen to Calex, I always kill the dragon on the bridge at the start of the game :P

GK1001 · 24-06-2014 1:35pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

No the Blacksmith is alive and kicking (been upgrading my weapons) I was talking about
the other way to enter the green area on the opposite side, I used the master key on the door.

Ok I will give the above a try this evening.

Fair play Mick on taking out HAVEL. He's harder for me than some of the bosses and I nearly always summon help for him early game so I can get his ring...which is very useful by the way

Now for the moonlight butterfly...

...rolly rolly rolly...smashy smashy smashy

Lastly...you see that Zwei you picked up..well you take that Zwei...you upgrade that sumbitch sideways...and you'll kick all their candy asses:cool:

Stone Deaf 4evr · 24-06-2014 2:27pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Story progress?? :pac::pac::pac:

It's very unclear what your actually supposed to be doing other than fighting.

Thats the only gripe I could say I have with the game, there's no quest log as such, for example, the fat guy at firelink shrine goes on about having lost his comrades - I dont know if this is a quest or just chitchat - or if I'll just find out what happened to them through the course of normal play anyways. I know I need to ring 2 bells but beyond that its simply explore, kill, die

Its entrancing though, really didn't think i'd like it but am delighted that I've given it a chance.

I downloaded an app from the play store for my phone that gives a basic walkthrough for the game it was called "pro guide dark souls edition". there's nothing tremendously useful in it, but it does lay out something resembling an order in which to take on different areas. For example, it recommended i go towards

darkroot basin before taking on the depths due to the amount of enemies that can poison you there

At the minute my character is getting a bit more capable so I'm doing a bit more exploring on my own.

24-06-2014 2:29pm

GK1001 wrote: »

Fair play Mick on taking out HAVEL. He's harder for me than some of the bosses and I nearly always summon help for him early game so I can get his ring...which is very useful by the way

Now for the moonlight butterfly...
...rolly rolly rolly...smashy smashy smashy

Lastly...you see that Zwei you picked up..well you take that Zwei...you upgrade that sumbitch sideways...and you'll kick all their candy asses:cool:

How I beat him (If we are talking about the same enemy??);

Lead him up to the very top of the stairs, he won't follow you outside he will run towards the door and run back, I kind of glitched him to say that every time he ran at me I took a stab at him and then rolled outside the door, repeated this until he was dead

Thing is I did not know you could summon anyone until today :P

Stone Deaf 4evr · 24-06-2014 2:34pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

How I beat him (If we are talking about the same enemy??);
Lead him up to the very top of the stairs, he won't follow you outside he will run towards the door and run back, I kind of glitched him to say that every time he ran at me I took a stab at him and then rolled outside the door, repeated this until he was dead

Thing is I did not know you could summon anyone until today :P

I got invaded last night for the first time, frightened the bejaysus out of me.

24-06-2014 2:35pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

I got invaded last night for the first time, frightened the bejaysus out of me.

Yet to happen to me; only reason I turned human is to get more health vial thingies. Think I have 10 instead of 5 now.

Mickeroo · 24-06-2014 2:36pm

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

I got invaded last night for the first time, frightened the bejaysus out of me.

It's a whole other side to the game, some people build characters purely for PvP. It's great craic with all the different covenants designed around it too, since DS is old enough now it's not as active as it should be which is a shame but I highly recommend getting the 2nd game when you're done with this. The online is still in full swing on it and it's great fun, have over 200 hours on my primary Dark Souls 2 character.

2smiggy · 24-06-2014 2:41pm

Havel :

he's slow, back stab him !!

Stone Deaf 4evr · 24-06-2014 4:18pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Yet to happen to me; only reason I turned human is to get more health vial thingies. Think I have 10 instead of 5 now.

HA! i was the same!

dont forget to get your estus flask upgraded by the lady locked in the cell under firelink - you'll need a special soul to do so

Dyr · 24-06-2014 4:37pm

Does this thing have the same problem with controller recognition on PC as the first game did?

25-06-2014 5:16pm

So today's Dark Souls Blog;:pac::pac::pac:

I managed to kill the Gargolyes on the Roof and ring the first bell with the help of the guy that you can spawn in while Human

I also managed to kill the big butterfly kind of thing and collect the loot / Souls. This wasn't as hard as I first thought as I could use my shield and dogde roll most of his attacks

Now I'm attempting to

ring the second bell and am having trouble with the ghosts in water/ I can't attack them so all I can do is run away

Mickeroo · 25-06-2014 5:20pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

So today's Dark Souls Blog;:pac::pac::pac:
I managed to kill the Gargolyes on the Roof and ring the first bell with the help of the guy that you can spawn in while Human

I also managed to kill the big butterfly kind of thing and collect the loot / Souls. This wasn't as hard as I first thought as I could use my shield and dogde roll most of his attacks

Now I'm attempting to
ring the second bell and am having trouble with the ghosts in water/ I can't attack them so all I can do is run away

To fight the ghosts:

you need either to be cursed or use an item called a transient curse.

Also that's not the right direction to ring the second bell :P

iamanengine · 25-06-2014 5:44pm

For second bell you need to pass through the

Depths

and move into a new area!

25-06-2014 5:59pm

iamanengine wrote: »

For second ball you need to pass through the
Depths
and move into a new area!

Weres that?

Dark Souls

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