do you put the main lights on at home when its Dark?

Andy From Sligo · 07-01-2016 12:50am

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

You know watt, you may laugh now but when the whole esb goes down and everybody's powerless and so have to light candles, then you'll see... Plus think of the savings I'll make, worth every scent!

Ive got a few battery powered LED torches here now, I would never go back to candles. these LED torches are brilliant and last ages on a charge or new set of batteries. I cannot even remember the last time I used a candle!

MaryAntoinette · 07-01-2016 12:52am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I cannot even remember the last time I used a candle!

Have you ever been romantic with your wife and used candles to set the mood?

WoollyRedHat · 07-01-2016 12:57am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Ive got a few battery powered LED torches here now, I would never go back to candles. these LED torches are brilliant and last ages on a charge or new set of batteries. I cannot even remember the last time I used a candle!

Sounds like witchcraft to me... Torch him!

WoollyRedHat · 07-01-2016 1:03am

MaryAntoinette wrote: »

Have you ever been romantic with your wife and used candles to set the mood?

Ah yes, never have I ever, Victorian style.

BunkMoreland · 07-01-2016 1:12am

Is everyone just pretending to know what a SAD light is not to appear stupid or am I just as thick as ****?

MaryAntoinette · 07-01-2016 1:15am

BunkMoreland wrote: »

Is everyone just pretending to know what a SAD light is not to appear stupid or am I just as thick as ****?

Most have the google to google what a sad light is.

Peregrine · 07-01-2016 1:25am

Meredith Weak Gull wrote: »

You are sadly mistaken if you think an ordinary bulb will give the same benefit as a SAD light, for those who need them. Ordinary lights are white light. Sunlight is not white and neither are SAD lights, as they are made up of the full spectrum.

Personally, unless I'm reading, I prefer dimmed lights.

Almost right! But I think you have your definition of white light mixed up. White light is a term used for light that is a mixture of all wavelengths in the visible range. i.e. full [visible] spectrum light.

Sunlight is white light and so are the old incandescent light bulbs, candles etc. Think of prisms, rainbows, etc. They split white light into its components and display the full visible spectrum.

Most fluorescent lighting that is commonly used in homes is not white light. I guess you could say that they approximate a white light. If memory serves me correctly, it has notable large peaks in specific red, green and violet wavelenths.

As for SAD lights. Most of them are (or were) white lights. They are fluorescent full [visible] spectrum lighting made to mimic natural sun light. There are SAD lights that use specific blue or green wavelengths. They aren't white lights and the therapeutic benefits come from using wavelengths of light that affect hormones the most (blue light supresses melatonin secretion most powerfully).

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Well, whats in one of these expensive SAD Light boxes you get from Chemist to help deal with depression in the winter? - its just a Light! - it is clinically proved they work

Full-spectrum lighting of 10,000 lux at a given distance.

It's not the same thing and your CFL won't cut it.

Paddy Samurai · 07-01-2016 1:34am

It depends on my mood.if I am reading i put on the main light ,or lamps.If I am having a special dinner ,usually candles .
But my favourite is oil lamps.I bought about 4 over the years and usually put them on when the rain is banging on the windows and the coal fire is lit.
Nothing beats that imo.

Mountainsandh · 07-01-2016 1:41am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Has anyone on here ever tried those SAD light boxes yokes you get from the chemists? - if so do they work?

I love bright lights too, my home often feels too dark, I'd have SAD lights everywhere if I could. I've a SAD light in my home office (aka spare room). Whenever I have to work at home, it really helps, and I mean really ! Love the light from it, makes me more energetic. I'm not depressed so can't really say if it might help, but my mood does improve when using it. I hate the lack of light in winter, and I hate eating places that are hardly lit, like pubs. Fine for a drink, not for food during the day !

Andy From Sligo · 07-01-2016 1:47am

Peregrine wrote: »

Full-spectrum lighting at 10,000 lux.

It's not the same thing and your CFL won't cut it.

so 10,000 lux =925 lumens = a 16wcfl @ around 6300k colour temperature wouldnt that work the same

Mountainsandh · 07-01-2016 1:50am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Do they work in the way they are supposed to ie - do they relieve seasonal/winter depression?

They should make ones that run off batteries, thought I have seen portable ones before that run off batteries, pretty sure

I have a Litepod one like this http://www.ebay.ie/itm/SAD-Light-Litepod-10-000-lux-Seasonal-Affective-Disorder-Lightbox-Therapy-Lamp-/170420538339?hash=item27addb0be3:g:P~AAAOSw2XFUc2oS

It's the bees knees.

I also have a small one I got as a present from France, I think it takes batteries as well as mains, but I'm not sure it's the real thing. Should put it somewhere to use it really !

Peregrine · 07-01-2016 2:22am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

so 10,000 lux =925 lumens = a 16wcfl @ around 6300k colour temperature wouldnt that work the same

What?

10,000 lux = 10,000 lumens per square metre. How could you equate illuminance to luminous flux? It's a bit like saying there are 9.25 kilometres in 100 kilometres per hour.

For comparison, most living spaces average between 50-100 lux.

Insect Overlord · 07-01-2016 2:26am

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

You know watt, you may laugh now but when the whole esb goes down and everybody's powerless and so have to light candles, then you'll see... Plus think of the savings I'll make, worth every scent!

Brilliant puns, sir!

Andy From Sligo · 07-01-2016 2:41am

Peregrine wrote: »

What? 10,000 lux = 10,000 lumens per metre squared. How could you equate illuminance to luminous flux? It's a bit like saying there are 9.25 kilometres in a kilometre per hour.

For comparison, most living spaces are lit at around 50-100 lux.

oh is it, all I did was just googled "what is 10,000 lux in Lumens and thats what came up

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 07-01-2016 10:37am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Well, whats in one of these expensive SAD Light boxes you get from Chemist to help deal with depression in the winter? - its just a Light! - it is clinically proved they work

I know you read the first of my posts as you thanked it but you seem to have an inability to understand. I'm not repeating myself so read the bit about the type of light and spectrum again. That's a good lad.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 07-01-2016 10:38am

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

so 10,000 lux =925 lumens = a 16wcfl @ around 6300k colour temperature wouldnt that work the same

NO!!

:rolleyes:

Andy From Sligo · 07-01-2016 3:19pm

Meredith Weak Gull wrote: »

I know you read the first of my posts as you thanked it but you seem to have an inability to understand. I'm not repeating myself so read the bit about the type of light and spectrum again. That's a good lad.

Let me just rephrase it then " its just a light in a box albeit a special colour temperature and brightness" - that better for you?

you could easily make one for fraction of price if you get the right parts or you could change your bulbs in the house to daylight bulbs, whilst maybe not exactly the same effect as a light box but it will still make you feel better when your awake - failing that just having ordinary lights on when its dark inside when your awake will keep you feeling more awake than just sitting there in the dark! - no wonder so many peoples time clocks are out and they suffer from Insomnia or feeling down in the winter, its enough to make anyone feel under the weather sitting in a dark or dim room on these dark dismal gloomy winter days

whiskeyman · 07-01-2016 3:27pm

When I enter my humble, dark, abode after a hard days work, I clap my hand twice and the lights come on...

(The wife is trained to switch on the lights once she hears me clap...)

Andy From Sligo · 07-01-2016 4:43pm

whiskeyman wrote: »

(The wife is trained to switch on the lights once she hears me clap...)

haha well trained mrs!

Andy From Sligo · 07-01-2016 4:51pm

i even put me lights on in the daytime if its dark and gloomy weather outside - might cost a bit more in leccy, and most probably not good for the environment but it makes me feel better - all my lights have on are cfls or LED or normal flurouscent no, incandescent lamps. And i dont switch them on and off (heard it greatly shortens life of fluorescent tubes keep switching them on and off) so i leave em on, room always lit when you walking round house no fumbling for light switch in dark, aint no-one got time to keep switching on and off lights it the house all the time - I dare say when i get a little bit older I will start saying that thing that all OAP's say "turn that light off your wasting electricity" or when you go into into a room turn "light on and turn it off when you leave the room!"

- I am personally more concerned about other huge electricity monsters in my house such as electric showers, electric ovens, and other high powered stuff thats being used rather than a few old low power/wattage lights left on in a room - even if there isnt anyone in the room at the time.

07-01-2016 5:54pm

I couldn't get comfortable in a bright room, its like the difference between sitting on a dining room chair and lying on a couch. Even in the day time I often close blinds and curtains when relaxing in front of the tv but its worse with bright artificial light, either no light on or a dim lamp in the corner just to give a little light and it changes the mood of the room totally for me.

do you put the main lights on at home when its Dark?

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