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  • Registered Users Posts: 368 ✭✭dare2be


    Congrats on the new arrival Jackyback


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Tuesday PM

    45 min bike z1/2
    Loaded up the turbo on a flat route as i wanted to gauge any improvements from the same time/course from when i commenced IM training 11 weeks ago. Some huge improvements on the bike and pretty delighted with the numbers. Watched episode 4 of The Wire and it really helps the turbos fly by.
    Time: 45mins
    Distance: 29.29km (22.29km - 24% improvement)
    Power: 238 (150- 37% improvement)
    Power to Weight ratio: 3.26 watt/kg (2.05 watt/kg - 37% improvement)
    Cadence: 97 (95 - 2% improvement)
    Avg HR: 132 (134)
    Wk11-45minflat-1.jpg

    Wednesday AM
    16km/9.95 mile PMP run
    Going to do one of these every midweek between now and Barca whilst slowly increasing the kms covered up to about 25km. I was halfway through the run when a bloody dog off it's leash tried to take a chunk out of my arse whilst the owner tried to control him, dog got a boot in the head and the owner got a mouthful as i jogged on without dropping too much pace:mad:
    Distance: 16km/9.95 mile
    Time: 1:16:43
    Pace: 4.47/7.42
    Avg HR: 154

    Still feeling a little sluggish, i need to remind myself that this is a recovery week so i will try keep all other sessions in Z1 for the remainder of the week.
    Tomorrow calls for a slow and easy paced run after 2 quality sessions back to back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭ronanmac


    Tuesday PM

    45 min bike z1/2
    Loaded up the turbo on a flat route as i wanted to gauge any improvements from the same time/course from when i commenced IM training 11 weeks ago. Some huge improvements on the bike and pretty delighted with the numbers. Watched episode 4 of The Wire and it really helps the turbos fly by.
    Time: 45mins
    Distance: 29.29km (22.29km - 24% improvement)
    Power: 238 (150- 37% improvement)
    Power to Weight ratio: 3.26 watt/kg (2.05 watt/kg - 37% improvement)
    Cadence: 97 (95 - 2% improvement)
    Avg HR: 132 (134)

    They are some serious improvements in 11 weeks! Great to see training pay dividends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    ronanmac wrote: »
    They are some serious improvements in 11 weeks! Great to see training pay dividends.

    TBH i was very suprised with the level of improvement myself and had to check the numbers twice. I would expect the improvements to increase at a much slower rate now that i have established a solid base before i hit build and peak phases.

    Wednesday PM

    Swim Session
    Straightforward session with 2x1500 with a 200wu and 100 cd. Felt ok in the first set and died a little on the second one.
    Distance: 3.3km
    Time: 75 mins or therabouts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    Great improvements on the bike Jacky, seriously impressive.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Great improvements on the bike Jacky, seriously impressive.

    Thanks your making great progress yourself in such a short space of time.

    Back in work today and trying to sum up the will power and energy to do a gym session at lunchtime:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Thursday
    Lunchtime Gym - 70 mins (extended break:cool:)
    Metcon - Military Press - 30kg, Pull Downs 60kg and chin ups all in sets of 16/14/12/10/8/6. Felt the burn on this one.
    I also completed a 3k easy run in 16 mins on the dreadmill and then finished off with about 30 mins of core work and stretching.
    Solid enough workout considering i was lacking any motivation going into it.

    Long Bike PM
    Literally only off the bike and it was one tough session. I thought i loaded up the Majorca VR dvd and only realised i had loaded up the Ventoux course after completing 5km so i decided to plough on. The Ventoux course has a bloody tough climb in the middle.
    It has a straight 23km of climbing, average gradient of 7.1%, 1600m of constant climbing and it just keeps going on and on......
    The first hour was in Z1 but the 2 hours of climbing was Z2 with dips into Z3 on the 11%+ gradient sections.
    Glad it's done.
    Time: 3:15
    Distance: 78.2km
    Avg Speed: 23.1kpmh (slow:rolleyes:)
    Power: 177
    Cadence: 85
    Avg HR: 137

    zzzzzzzzz time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Friday AM
    Early swim
    Had the usual 5 hours kip and headed off to the pool for an easy session.
    10x200 with a 300/200 wu and cd.
    Legs felt stiff from last night but the swim and jacuzzi after it helped me loosen up a little. I am also wearing my compression socks under my work clothes this morning:cool:
    Distance: 2.5km
    Time: 51 mins

    Lunchtime run planned and i will have yet another Friday evening free. I just realised this morning i am actually due to race the Sportsman Duathlon on Sunday but i think i will wait and see how i am fixed for time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Flippin hell, the Ventoux on the turbo and you stayed in Z2 :eek::confused:

    Well done on the improvements on the bike recently but 2 hours of constant climbing late in the evening, not on your nelly! I put a 10min climb into my session last night and nearly had a seizure!

    Great Dedication JB, keep going! Hows the little one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Flippin hell, the Ventoux on the turbo and you stayed in Z2 :eek::confused:

    Well done on the improvements on the bike recently but 2 hours of constant climbing late in the evening, not on your nelly! I put a 10min climb into my session last night and nearly had a seizure!

    Great Dedication JB, keep going! Hows the little one?

    I did hit Z3 on a few occasions during the climb hitting a max HR of 167. I was crawling slowly up the climb though and probably only averaging 10/11kpmh. It is not the type of climb you can hammer it an any stage or else you will not make it to the top and your heart is likely to explode:pac:

    Little one is fine and is settling at home well. It's mad now having a family of 4 to look after but at least the eldest lad is a good help. I am extremely concerned that the arse is going to fall out of my training before my IM race as i am already feeling the pinch after a week of juggling family/work/training. Starting to think this was not a good idea afterall:eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Friday
    Lunchtime Run
    Headed out for a short run and took it very easy.
    Distance: 4.89km/3 mile
    Pace: 5.12km/8.23mile
    Avg HR: 148

    Planning a 32/33km LSR in the morning, probably Drogheda-Stamullen and back again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Saturday

    34km/21.1mile LSR
    I will be putting this one into the confidence bank as it felt so easy throughout as shown in the HR, in fact i had to reign it in a number of times. This is the longest LSR i have done since the Cork Marathon last year (can hardly count DCM:rolleyes:).
    I ran a loop out to Stamullen and stopped for a quick pitstop in the sisters, grabbed a quick tea/banana and was on my way again. I ran the first 17km in 1:27:42 and the second 17km in 1:26:03 so a negative split yeah:cool: Took a gel at 26km but did not really need it.
    Distance: 34km
    Time: 2:53:45
    Pace: 5.06 per km/8.13 per mile
    Avg HR: 148 (max 165)

    Off to the cinema with the kiddies for some popcorn:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Sunday
    Headed up to this race with someone out of work who has just started taking up tri. There was a good attendance and the route was a 3.2km run/18km bike/3.2km run so not a huge distance to cover.
    I was aiming to break the hour mark but fell short due to a combination of yesterdays LSR lingering in the legs and i had 8 pints of the black stuff the night before as i was wetting a mates babys head....hardly ideal preparation for a race:rolleyes:
    The bloody garmin was dead so had to race blind and had no clue what pace i was going at through the race. The splits were as follows,
    Run 1: 13:25
    T1: 0:34
    Cycle: 33:51
    T2: 0:44
    Run 2: 13:46
    Total Time: 1:02:21
    I ended up finishing this in 43rd place (about 10 mins slower than the winner) but i reckon there should be a couple of minutes to come off this when they run it next month and i would be hoping for a top 20/30. I was admiring some of the bike porn on show, some of the tt bikes were amazing. I am considering getting one so please throw a couple of suggestions at me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Like any sound investment. Set your budget first. Then see what general spec the various bikes have for that budget. Narrow down a few choices. Post some link to them and the tri boardsies/bike forum will no doubt fire a few tips


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Week 11 Summary
    24 - 30 January|# sessions|Time hh:mm|Distance kms
    Total|12|13:14|210.6km
    Swimming|2|2.06|5.8km
    Cycling|3|4:34|125.5km
    Running|6|6:34|79.3km
    Conditioning|1|1:10|Strengthening Work/Core - Gym
    Other|0|0:00|


    Totals so far
    15 Nov- 30 Jan|# sessions|Time hh:mm|Distance kms
    Total|126|124:08|1981.2km
    Swimming|24|21:17|59.3km
    Cycling|33|43:36|1372km
    Running|52|46:45|549.9km
    Conditioning|11|10:10|Strengthening Work - Gym
    Other|6|3:30|Swim coaching


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Like any sound investment. Set your budget first. Then see what general spec the various bikes have for that budget. Narrow down a few choices. Post some link to them and the tri boardsies/bike forum will no doubt fire a few tips

    Probably look at anything up to the 1,200 mark (may not get something decent for this though). Will have a look at a few and throw up a selection later. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    Well done today at the Sportsman, it's a bench mark now for next month. Also the LSR, good running and nice low HR.

    Here is my bike and I love it. It got me some nice times last year and is a head turner. Not carbon but good value imo, think it can be got for around €1200 now.

    http://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/Tri_Bike_by_price_/Tri_bikes_by_price_for_2010/Tri_Bikes_under_1900_2010_/Giant_Trinity_0_for_2010_1003.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Well done today at the Sportsman, it's a bench mark now for next month. Also the LSR, good running and nice low HR.

    Here is my bike and I love it. It got me some nice times last year and is a head turner. Not carbon but good value imo, think it can be got for around €1200 now.

    http://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/Tri_Bike_by_price_/Tri_bikes_by_price_for_2010/Tri_Bikes_under_1900_2010_/Giant_Trinity_0_for_2010_1003.html

    Thanks El D i will price around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Monday

    AM Swim
    Missed this mornings session due to a bad nights sleep with the newborn. I hoped to squeeze this session in tonight but did not get a chance as i was too busy.

    Lunchtime Run Z1
    Recovery Run - 8.95km/5.6mile
    Took it very slowly today during this recovery run. The first 4k felt tough on the legs but loosened up for the last 5k.
    Time: 50:07
    Distance: 8.95km
    Pace: 5.35 p/km / 9.00 p/mile
    No hrm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,988 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Well done today at the Sportsman, it's a bench mark now for next month. Also the LSR, good running and nice low HR.

    Here is my bike and I love it. It got me some nice times last year and is a head turner. Not carbon but good value imo, think it can be got for around €1200 now.

    http://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/T...2010_1003.html

    I've got this one too. A bit heavy (but then again so am I) but a good bike.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    El D/Griffin where did you purchase the bike? I have found a few Giant stockists but they do not have the bike in stock. Griiffin did you complete the IMUK bike leg on the tt or your normal road bike? I assume with the climbing the road bike may be better?
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    El D/Griffin where did you purchase the bike? I have found a few Giant stockists but they do not have the bike in stock. Griiffin did you complete the IMUK bike leg on the tt or your normal road bike? I assume with the climbing the road bike may be better?
    Thanks

    Cyclesuperstore just up the road from me has one of these on view for €1650
    (Well it seems to be the same as this one. I saw it there last Fri)

    Personnally if I ever get to IMUK2011 I would be looking at investing in reasonable road bike.

    Oh congrats on the new arrival! Little spare time now with 2 little ones and an IM training plan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    It might not be on sale anymore but I was looking at that bike on wiggle or crc for 999 sterling recently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Abhainn wrote: »
    Cyclesuperstore just up the road from me has one of these on view for €1650
    (Well it seems to be the same as this one. I saw it there last Fri)

    Personnally if I ever get to IMUK2011 I would be looking at investing in reasonable road bike.

    Oh congrats on the new arrival! Little spare time now with 2 little ones and an IM training plan.

    http://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=270&idproduct=30706
    Looks to be the same one, seems very pricey from them. When are you going to decide on IMUK? your life sounds as hectic as mine in fariness:)
    catweazle wrote: »
    It might not be on sale anymore but I was looking at that bike on wiggle or crc for 999 sterling recently

    Had a look at the site and that offer seems to be gone, savage value missed:mad:
    I did see this though, looks on the heavy side but decent components for the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    +1 for that bike JB. A mate of mine got it and did his first IM at IMUK last year. You can always upgrade the wheel etc.. but good bang for buck as is and it pretty too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/epages/Store4_Shop38023.sf/sec0KXLYiJ6JGc/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Shop38023/Products/GTO2010/SubProducts/GTO2010-0001

    doesnt say about shipping to Ireland on their site but give them an email/ring or im sure you can get around it some other way


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    kennyb3 wrote: »
    http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/epages/Store4_Shop38023.sf/sec0KXLYiJ6JGc/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Shop38023/Products/GTO2010/SubProducts/GTO2010-0001

    doesnt say about shipping to Ireland on their site but give them an email/ring or im sure you can get around it some other way

    Cheers KB sent them an e-mail ref shipping to Ireland, it looks like a toss up between the Giant and Focus Culerbro by the looks of it. Suprisingly the Focus seems to have the better components over the Giant although i am pretty clueless with bikes...just like to pedal:)

    Missus is going to love this when i spend a few more €€€€ on my new hobby. Trying to explain that i need a TT bike to go faster due to aero dynamics should make for an interesting conversation over dinner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    El D/Griffin where did you purchase the bike? I have found a few Giant stockists but they do not have the bike in stock. Griiffin did you complete the IMUK bike leg on the tt or your normal road bike? I assume with the climbing the road bike may be better?
    Thanks


    Got mine in Lucan, in Stag Cycles, Cycle Zone in Blanch could also get it for you. They would have to order it in, not sure what they are looking for for it but remember......these days it pays to haggle-big time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    I havent gone in there but seemingly the Planet X shop in Athlone gets rave reviews as well, I think they can give you the same price as the website + plus you will get fitted too for the right one. A few clubs mates bought there and were very happy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    I did see this though, looks on the heavy side but decent components for the money.

    Yeah better specs than the trinity, Carbon forks as well! Theres a Felt and a Quintana Roo thats around the same price there for a while on wiggle as well, the free delivery is great

    I was looking at a good few on sale at the end of last year, I would love a TT bike, especially as the Bike Fitter (Padraig Marrey) told me I needed to badly update my wheels which are crazy prices I might as well get the bike as well for that type of money but alas I chose to blow my spare money on a skiing holiday instead.

    Keep your eye on this page as well, there can be some very good deals there, check out that Felt B2, beautiful bike, did you mention you were a wee lad, a 50 might be the right size for you ;)

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/sale/ex-demo-bikes/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,988 ✭✭✭griffin100


    El D/Griffin where did you purchase the bike? I have found a few Giant stockists but they do not have the bike in stock. Griiffin did you complete the IMUK bike leg on the tt or your normal road bike? I assume with the climbing the road bike may be better?
    Thanks

    I got mine in Wheelworx. IIRC €1,700.

    I did IMUK on it and it was tough but that wasn't down to the bike, that was down to me and a lack of bike time leading into the race. I had the 42/53 changed when I bought it to a 39/53 which helps. I also had an 11-25 on the back, going to a 27 might help on a hilly course. That said I've bene up Mt Leinster a few times on it without too much bother. It is relatively heavy though.

    AFAIK Revolve in Gorey has one in stock and I think Wheelworx do. The one that was on CRC for £999 was a size small only. I'm 5'9'' and have a medium which fits.

    The Planet X option is one that's well worth considering, you get a carbon bike for aluminimum money. I think MCOS has a PX TT bike.

    Wheelworx have a good selection of TT bikes. Worth a look to give you an idea of whats available in your price range - you dont have to buy anything and its free to look.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    catweazle wrote: »
    check out that Felt B2, beautiful bike, did you mention you were a wee lad, a 50 might be the right size for you ;)
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/sale/ex-demo-bikes/

    Felt B2!!! are they not mad money, nothing showing up on the link. Yes a wee lad currently on a 52" road bike although would not want to go smaller as it is jsut about the right size for me when i take the stabilizers off:rolleyes:

    Planet X have a stealth pro carbon sram rival for €1,235 online but seem to be out of stock until March by the looks of it. (I will check with that shop in Athlone tomorrow)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    Felt B2!!! are they not mad money, nothing showing up on the link. Yes a wee lad currently on a 52" road bike although would not want to go smaller as it is jsut about the right size for me when i take the stabilizers off:rolleyes:

    Planet X have a stealth pro carbon sram rival for €1,235 online but seem to be out of stock until March by the looks of it. (I will check with that shop in Athlone tomorrow)


    Mmm not sure what I did with the link, check out ex demo bikes in wiggle and then you will see them, they are nearly all in small, those focus bikes are there for less than 999 as well. I am no expert but TT bikes you tend to get them smaller than what you would use for a normal bike for the aero dynamics so the 50" may well suit you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    With all the talk of bikes in here today it's about time i got back to posting some actual training updates.:)
    Tuesday
    Lunchtime Run
    Plan: 10km with strides Actual: 5km easy
    Ended up changing my plans as ballsed up packing my bag and left the garmin, hrm and my running jacket at home so decided on a short easy one around the 4.9km work route. Just as well as it was pissing down and i was out in just a t-shirt and shorts freezing me XXXXX off.
    Distance: 4.9km
    Time: 25 mins
    Pace: 5.00 min kms

    PM - Brick Session - 45 min high Z2 bike/30 min Z2 run
    Really wanted to up the effort on the bike part of the session and i did exactly that. Kept it in the big gear for the 45 mins whilst trying to maintain a decent cadence.
    Distance: 30.34km
    Time: 45 mins
    Power: 256avg/567max
    Cadence: 97/127 max
    Avg speed: 40.4kmph
    Power to weight ratio: 3.76watt/kg
    AVG hr: 149
    Wk12brick-1.jpg

    Legs felt wobbly starting on the run but soon start maintaining a running cadence of 86/88 throughout.
    Distance: 5.6km
    Time: 27:17
    Pace: 4.52km/7.50mile
    Avg HR: 154

    Got the green light on tt bike purchase from the boss so time to make my mind up. I can get that giant back from that german site for 1440 inc shipping which saves me about 200 against local stores. I will wait and see if that Athlone have any of the Planet x tt bikes in stock before i make my mind up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Wednesday AM

    Early morning swim
    My last attempt at the 10x400 finsihed at number 7 so i decided to have a crack at the 10 again this morning. I was up at 5 doing one of the night feeds so just decided to stay up and get some brekkie into me and was in the pool for 6.30.
    Instead of doing a warm up i just took the first 200 easy from the first set. I did manage to get the 10 sets in with the times varying from 7.25 to 7.50 on the stopwatch with a 60 sec rest in between.
    The first 3 sets went ok but 4,5,6 started to get sloppy with the stroke and was hitting 7.45+ in them. Kncukled down on 7 and 8 and they came in 10 seconds quicker and 9 and 10 was just a struggle but i just focussed on keeping the stroke long.
    I took on Shotguns suggestion of counting strokes on the 2nd and last of each set and i was coming in mostly around 24 and 26 in a 25 mtr pool. Legs went wobbly getting out of the pool and had to sit down for a few minutes and finish off my sports drink. The longest single swim session to date!!
    Bloody delighted i got through that.
    Distance: 4000 mtrs
    Time 1:28


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭interested


    Wednesday AM
    Legs went wobbly getting out of the pool and had to sit down for a few minutes and finish off my sports drink. The longest single swim session to date!!
    Bloody delighted i got through that.
    Distance: 4000 mtrs
    Time 1:28

    congrats on the swim chief - a nice mental hurdle out of the way. Best of luck with the swimming and all the rest of your training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Well done on that session JB, thats bloody great work! Nice to hit the 4k set benchmark. Also 40kmh on the turbo for 45mins is nuts.. you are in great shape, I'll have to keep an eye out for you in the Tri Limits events :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    interested wrote: »
    congrats on the swim chief - a nice mental hurdle out of the way. Best of luck with the swimming and all the rest of your training.

    Thanks Interested, i believe your the man to speak to on all things swimming related. Do you have any session tips/suggestions for improving techniue and speed (i know the two somewhat go hand in hand) Now that the endurance is there i really want to improve on my IM swim target time.
    Well done on that session JB, thats bloody great work! Nice to hit the 4k set benchmark. Also 40kmh on the turbo for 45mins is nuts.. you are in great shape, I'll have to keep an eye out for you in the Tri Limits events :cool:

    Thanks Shotgun, I shall be the guy illegally drafting behind you:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭interested


    Thanks Interested, i believe your the man to speak to on all things swimming related. Do you have any session tips/suggestions for improving techniue and speed (i know the two somewhat go hand in hand) Now that the endurance is there i really want to improve on my IM swim target time.

    Thats the thing about these parts, everyones advice is as good as the next guys - but my own opinions on things are as follows ...apologies, they're long winded.

    a) technique - next to impossible for me to comment on this without seeing where you're coming from and how things stand now. One generic rule of thumb is that you're on top of the water swimming - that your hips arent dropping. Sure, you're wetsuit will give you a lift in the water when swimming in open water - but a steady regular flutter kick that isnt going to tax the big muscles too much but keeps your hips high will ensure you're not dragging your lower body through the water too much or ... more than necessary if you catch my drift. If you're body is in the right position, then if enables you to stretch more on the recovery of each arm pull so that you're physically gripping more water in every pull (this and body rotation and kicking will reduce your stroke count / increase the distance-per-stroke) and should see you swim quicker for similar / less exerted energy. That'd be the theory at least ;)
    If its possible for to have a coach look over your stroke on a regular (once every 2 weeks or more and not always when you're swimming fresh) look at your stroke then it might help you alter one or two small things that will help you.

    b) Speed over 3.8k as part of an IM ... hmm
    unless you're doing a relay Ive always heard that the speed you swim and bike at should ensure you can maintain a steady pace in the last 10 miles of the run - even though its literally the other side of the day of the swim. For anyone from a swimming background or those whose swimming is their best discipline this is more difficult than it sounds given the fact its common to have spent an age preparing to participate in an long distance race. When the gun goes, and the water goes white and you're looking for clear water, its only natural for the arms to fly about and technique to go temporarily a little out of sorts in search of speed.

    for me ... with my own background my approach to swimming 1.9k or 3.8k as part of a triathlon (after alot of mistakes) is now to try to swim no faster than my ability to maintain good swimming form. If I maintain good form then Im swimming comfortably and in a controlled manner - counting out my strokes, trying to be as efficient as possible. If I feel things going a bit out of sorts or 'off' Ill slow down slightly since even if I back off on the swim and maybe finish even 2 or 3 minute slower time than a p.b or something ... the energy Ill have saved will ensure I can maintain a good pace towards the end of the race.

    Although the 10*400 set is a nice one to do every now and again - it wouldnt be something Id personally do alot. Theres absolutely no harm in having it under the belt in terms of a training goal - to have swam a 4k set every now and again.

    The objective of a distance sort of set is to train your body to become comfortable swimming (whilst maintaining good form) that distance at a desired speed.

    For example to swim just under the hour for 3.8km I know I need to swim 100 metres 38 times in just under 93 seconds. This doesnt mean I need to swim 38*100's every week - but I know if I can comfortably do a set of 10*100's on 1.30 then I know what it feels like to swim at that speed - and can determine if its just a case of swim fitness that is limiting me to those times. Similarly - say I have a goal of swimming 52 minutes for the 3.8k swim as part of a long distance event ... then I need to be 'comfortably' doing 100's on 1.25 (holding around a 1.22 pace)) if this slips to 1.30 for the last 800 metres of the 3.8k ... Ill end up swimming 64 seconds slower than Id hoped ... if I have to walk in the last 10 miles of the run Ill loose alot more than 64 seconds.


    Im in no way criticizing your or anyone elses sets of 400's here btw, but if you're looking to improve ... you might consider alternative sets like

    5 * 400 off a particular time that gives you just 15 seconds rest
    and/or
    5 * 200 ... same as above 15 or less rest between each
    and/or
    10 * 100 ... same as above but again, less rest - probably just 5 seconds

    still a 4k set - but you're more focused and if you have a ball park idea of what you're swim time you'd like to have - divide it by 38 - and then the next time you're in the pool - do a warm up - and then do a comfortable 100 f/s - take the time and compare it to what you have to do 38 times .... before you bike and run.


    if there's anything confusing or Ive glossed over something feel free pass it along or via pm. As above, this is all just my opinion. Im not a coach - and nor do I really want to be but Im more than happy to help - but again, bear in mind - you should be thinking about a swim time you should do to facilitate the bike and run on the big day and not the swim time you can do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    When are you going to decide on IMUK? your life sounds as hectic as mine in fariness:)

    Thats a great question. Some days it is 70/30, others the reverse or less.
    With 29 weeks left and I know that I have sufficient time left to get myself sorted and give it a good go.
    Getting the time to fit in the sessions is my biggest problem. I see futher trips abroad in the coming 5 - 6 months to futher add to the challenge.
    I need also to come across a couple of grand for outley (bike, gym etc). We had a couple of unexpected expenditors lately which wasn't planned for

    Anyway one of these days soon I'll just have to sit down and have a good chat with myself. Right now my head says no but my heart doesn't want to let it go.

    Some excellent sessions lately. Don't peak too soon. I know I won't :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Thanks for taking the time Interested, solid advice and will start doing a few of them sessions.

    Off down to view a Felt S22 tri bike later which i should be able to pick up for €1,200 new reduced from €1,500. It seems to rate well on the review sites. Planet X bike not an option as they will not have stock until late March if they are lucky and i think the Giant bike is slightly out of my price range.

    Toss up between these two now, i think the Felt looks better and will probably seal the deal if i can get it for the right price.

    felts22.jpg
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,988 ✭✭✭griffin100


    That Felt sure is pretty:) Gets a good review here as well http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/bikes/time-trial-triathlon/product/s22-10-37606

    I think Revolve have had a Giant Trinity in stock for a good while so if you are interested in this model you may be able to bargain them down. There is a serious mark up on bikes from what I can see so there may be some room for haggling. If you want to have a look at a Giant up close / try one out I can show you mine (depending on location of course;)).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    Yes the Felt TTs are good looking bikes, Nigel Cycles in Galway has them for €1200 as well so maybe play them off each other

    http://www.nigelscycles.com/index.php?module=store&parent=bikes&category=road_bikes&show=post&post=felt_s22_2010_model


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    interested wrote: »
    b) Speed over 3.8k as part of an IM ... hmm
    unless you're doing a relay Ive always heard that the speed you swim and bike at should ensure you can maintain a steady pace in the last 10 miles of the run - even though its literally the other side of the day of the swim.

    Thats something I had never factored into my blow out in Swinford, I put it all down to going too fast on the bike. I assumed as I don't have much of a kick that I could go hell for leather in the swim as it will be only my arms that will be getting used. So taking it easy and feeding on the bike will not necessarily sort your stamina out if you go too fast on the swim


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Wesnesday
    Lunchtime PMP run
    Had planned to do 9km at PMP but took the last 3km handy as i had a sharp pain up my left shin. Thankfully it feels ok now must have just landed my foot in an awkward spot.
    Distance: 8.86km
    Time: 43:45
    Pace: 4.56km (6km at avg 4.44km pace)
    Avg HR: 156

    PM Bike - 60 min Z1 spinning
    Just turned the legs over for the hour and took it easy, maintained a high cadence but low output.
    Distance: 34.14km
    Time: 60 mins
    Power: 158/288
    Cadence: 106/128
    Avg HR: 120
    Wk12 wed 60 mins.jpg

    Solid 3 session day today. Just a gym session and long bike planned for tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    griffin100 wrote: »
    That Felt sure is pretty:) Gets a good review here as well http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/bikes/time-trial-triathlon/product/s22-10-37606

    I think Revolve have had a Giant Trinity in stock for a good while so if you are interested in this model you may be able to bargain them down. There is a serious mark up on bikes from what I can see so there may be some room for haggling. If you want to have a look at a Giant up close / try one out I can show you mine (depending on location of course;)).

    I was in touch with them and they only took €50 off leaving it at €1,600 which is too much for my budget.
    catweazle wrote: »
    Yes the Felt TTs are good looking bikes, Nigel Cycles in Galway has them for €1200 as well so maybe play them off each other

    http://www.nigelscycles.com/index.php?module=store&parent=bikes&category=road_bikes&show=post&post=felt_s22_2010_model

    Cheers CW actually ended up getting the bike locally for €1,200 and a set of look keo pedals thrown in. I hope to have it in a few days:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,988 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Fifty euros is hardly a discount. I thought you would have got more off as as far as I know that bike has been in stock for some time.

    Congrats and good luck on the new steed. Time to get off the turbo and get your ass up some hills.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    griffin100 wrote: »
    Fifty euros is hardly a discount. I thought you would have got more off as as far as I know that bike has been in stock for some time.

    Congrats and good luck on the new steed. Time to get off the turbo and get your ass up some hills.

    Yeah i had to hold in the laughter, €50 off a €1,650 bike!! On the bolded bit i fully agree however luckily my turbo simulates the climbing, as you are climbing as it has a high power motor brake which automatically adjusts the resistance to match the gradient. I have to say the effort is pretty much identical as i tested a local hill beside me (time/pace/effort) and routed it to GPS on the turbo. The turbo was similiar in effort in fact less than 5% off. Climbing Ventoux in the comfort of your home can be appealing on the dodgy weather days although you cannot beat being out in the elements.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Thursday
    Lunchtime Gym - Session missed
    Very busy in work and did not get to this but should get around to it today.

    PM - Long Bike 3hr 40 mins
    It was a late start getting onto the turbo as we had someone in assembling new furniture in the house and they did not leave until after 9 or so. By the time i got the kids to bed it was shortly after 9.30 by the time i sat my ass on the turbo which meant a 1.10am finish:(
    For nutrition/hydration i had two bananas, energy bar, pear, 1x500ml sports drink, 2x500ml water and one mixed with an energy gel. I am thinking of mixing some of my energy gels with water on race day to help them go down easier, does anyone know if this will give you the same hit?
    I trundled along and the first 2 hours went in slowly with the last 1hr 40 mins whizzing by, i also threw in about 10 mins of 270/280watt towards the end to test the legs a little.
    Fairly tired getting off the bike so had a quick shower and straight to bed in my new Super King Size with memory foam mattress:P for the guts of a 4 hour sleep:(
    Distance: 123.82km
    Time: 3hr 40mins
    Speed: 33.7kmph
    Power: 194/307
    Cadence: 96/108
    Avg HR: 134
    Wk12LongBike.jpg

    Friday
    AM - Swim Session
    In the pool for 6.30am and strangely felt alert for this session, i think my recovery on the bke is very fast these days. Took interesteds advice on board and changed the session about a bit
    WU - 200
    10x100 coming in on 1.49/1.55 and off in 2.00, the last few came in close to 1.55 which meant very little breathers in between.
    5x200 coming in on 3.44/3.57 and off in 4.10. These felt ok
    2x400 in on 7.40ish with 30 secs rest between sets
    200 cd
    I think i can push myself harder on the 100's/200's and would love to get them under 1.40 & 3.30 in the next few weeks.
    Distance: 3200mtrs
    Time: 1.11

    Going to look at changing the long bike to a Wednesday from next week as the bike with the AM swim is tough going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    Savage training, you are a machine - well done.

    I have one of those memory foam mattresses as well, they cost us a fortune but worth every penny, super conmfortable

    As regards your gels, I use these

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/science-in-sport-box-of-30-60ml-go-gel-sachets/

    They go down much easier than your normal gels


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