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Half-baked Republican Presidential Fruitcakes (and fellow confections)

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    #2732
    MrPudding
    Registered Users Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    According to the Irish Times today she's released her health records, and all tax returns going back to 1977

    FDR could barely stand up at all, did that make him unfit for office?

    But it's all changed now. Since the end of the Cold War international disputes have been resolved by who can stand the longest. Trump is obviously the greatest stander, so he would be the greatest president. He could use his best standing technique to make America great again.

    Really Hotblack, I thought you were smarter...

    MrP


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    #2733
    [Deleted User]
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    Qs wrote: »
    I don't think thats true. I mean logically it should be the case as the Libertarians are polling a lot better than the Greens but the polls show a different pattern (in relation to Trump vs Clinton). I think its best not to get too logical when it comes to the voting public in the US.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-10/bloomberg-politics-national-poll

    https://morningconsult.com/2016/08/14/poll-trump-arrests-slide-but-favorability-reaches-new-depths/

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-clinton-maintains-big-lead-voters-doubt-trump-s-temperament-n631351


    I also think polling is going to be less accurate in this less election than other years. I think we will likely see a lower turn out than usual but I'm not sure who that favours TBH.
    Johnson is polling twice as high as Stein. Among those who say they'll vote for Stein are protest voters but even among them once they read more of her views (ban GMO, instantly destroying agriculture and cause food riots, courting anti-vaccers etc.) and her running mate's views (the Jews did it) they'll not be long dropping her.


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    #2734
    Qs
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Qs


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Among those who say they'll vote for Stein are protest voters but even among them once they read more of her views (ban GMO, instantly destroying agriculture and cause food riots, courting anti-vaccers etc.)

    She neither wants to ban GMOs or vaccines.


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    #2735
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    Qs wrote: »
    She neither wants to ban GMOs or vaccines.

    She does want to:
    Label GMOs, and put a moratorium on GMOs and pesticides until they are proven safe.

    GMOs have already been proven safe beyond any doubt. Yet Jill Stein pretends that hasn't happened. So she pretty much does favour banning GMOs.


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    #2736
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Former Trump supporters on Reddit explain the moment they figured out that they could no longer support the man:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/4xe2dx/former_trump_supporters_of_reddit_what_was_the/


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    #2737
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Rush Limbaugh loses his mind over a supposed (by himself) conspiracy by the Obama Administration to plant "lesbian farmers" in rural red states to turn those areas more liberal.


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    #2738
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    conspiracy by the Obama Administration to plant "lesbian farmers" in rural red states to turn those areas more liberal.
    If that photo is accurate.... more of them please :)


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    #2739
    Trent Houseboat
    Registered Users Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Trent Houseboat


    He's probably been at the hillbilly heroin again.


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    #2740
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Trump's doctor turns out to be just as corrupt/optimistic as Hillary's.
    Meanwhile, her associate has been sexting weiner pics again.


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    #2741
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,842 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    recedite wrote: »
    Trump's doctor turns out to be just as corrupt/optimistic as Hillary's.
    Meanwhile, her associate has been sexting weiner pics again.

    You just can't bring yourself to think anything negative about Drumpf without going "B-b-but HillaREEEEEEE!" :rolleyes:


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    #2742
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    True :pac:


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    #2743
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    recedite wrote: »
    Meanwhile, her associate has been sexting weiner pics again.

    How exactly, outside of Faux News talking points, is Anthony Weiner her "associate"?


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    #2744
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Himself and the soon-to-be-ex-wife have both been strategists in the democratic/Clinton campaign.


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    #2745
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    recedite wrote: »
    Himself and the soon-to-be-ex-wife have both been strategists in the democratic/Clinton campaign.

    I know Huma Abedin is a Clinton associate, but we're talking about Anthony Weiner. I wasn't aware that he was involved in Clinton's campaign at all.


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    #2746
    BoatMad
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    Suryavarman wrote: »
    She does want to:



    GMOs have already been proven safe beyond any doubt. Yet Jill Stein pretends that hasn't happened. So she pretty much does favour banning GMOs.

    the EU has a very restrictive approach to GMOs, with Spain being in the lead , there is only a handful of GMO crops allowed in the EU.

    simply because the US allows it doesn't make it safe or right , just like hormones in beef production etc


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    #2747
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Rush Limbaugh loses his mind [...]
    Is that still possible?


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    #2748
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    BoatMad wrote: »
    the EU has a very restrictive approach to GMOs, with Spain being in the lead , there is only a handful of GMO crops allowed in the EU.

    simply because the US allows it doesn't make it safe or right , just like hormones in beef production etc

    The EU has an anti-science approach to GMOs. There is a massive body of literature on GMOs showing that they are no more harmful than natural crops. The US's attitude towards GMOs doesn't matter because the science shows they are safe and there really isn't any debate about that.


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    #2749
    Links234
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    I guess there isn't any twitter eggs and pol denizens to make "Crooked Donnie" memes about this, all the concern about corruption seems to been eerily silent when it's "Lyin' Trump" doing it.

    AP: Greg Abbott Given $35K Campaign Donation by Trump after Trump University Probe Dropped
    WASHINGTON -- Texas Gov. Greg Abbott received a $35,000 donation to his successful gubernatorial campaign from Donald Trump. This after a Texas probe into Trump University was dropped in 2010, according to the Associated Press.

    The AP reported that Abbott, a Republican, was serving as Texas Attorney General at the time, and opened a civil investigation of "possibly deceptive trade practices" into Trump University, but quietly dropped it when the organization agreed to end its operations in Texas.

    Trump subsequently donated $35,000 to Abbott's successful gubernatorial campaign, according to records obtained by the AP.


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    #2750
    BoatMad
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    Suryavarman wrote: »
    The EU has an anti-science approach to GMOs. There is a massive body of literature on GMOs showing that they are no more harmful than natural crops. The US's attitude towards GMOs doesn't matter because the science shows they are safe and there really isn't any debate about that.

    thanks, but Im happy with the stance the EU takes , and I also like my beef free of growth hormones too.


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    #2751
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 12,958 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Links234 wrote: »
    I guess there isn't any twitter eggs and pol denizens to make "Crooked Donnie" memes about this, all the concern about corruption seems to been eerily silent when it's "Lyin' Trump" doing it.

    AP: Greg Abbott Given $35K Campaign Donation by Trump after Trump University Probe Dropped

    And the money from and ties to Russia. And the Saudi's buying floors in Trump Tower. And no tax returns posted, despite every candidate since dumb-old Jerry Ford has done this. And and and. Trump's handy for the media because everything he spouts is in 140 characters or less. He's a poor public speaker and a crass individual, and not too bright. Good for a quote from time to time. Never keeps a position for very long on anything, and is as hypocritical as the day is long.

    Media and the GOP have made 'throw sh1te at the Clintons and see what sticks' a meme for decades. It results in clicks, which is all that's wanted. So, their energy is spent on creating, sometimes out of thin air, accusations and waiting for the Clintons to defend. Vox ran a good piece about it: http://www.vox.com/2015/7/6/8900143/hillary-clinton-reporting-rules

    Highlights if you don't want to follow the link:
    1) Everything, no matter how ludicrous-sounding, is worthy of a full investigation by federal agencies, Congress, the "vast right-wing conspiracy," and mainstream media outlets
    2) Every allegation, no matter how ludicrous, is believable until it can be proven completely and utterly false. And even then, it keeps a life of its own in the conservative media world.
    3) The media assumes that Clinton is acting in bad faith until there's hard evidence otherwise.
    4) Everything is newsworthy because the Clintons are the equivalent of America's royal family
    5) Everything she does is fake and calculated for maximum political benefit

    Personally can't wait until the election happens and this is over and done with. Hoping that Obama then withdraws the Garland nomination and lets HRC nominate Scalia's replacement, hopefully McConnell et al then explode into tiny bits, on national TV or at least C-Span.


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    #2752
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    BoatMad wrote: »
    thanks, but Im happy with the stance the EU takes , and I also like my beef free of growth hormones too.

    So you have the same anti-logic views this thread was set up to mock? Good to know.


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    #2753
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Hoping that Obama then withdraws the Garland nomination [...]
    Sod the Supreme Court.

    I'm with the New Yorker in hoping that Obama will take the nuclear launch codes with him when he leaves office.


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    #2754
    BoatMad
    Registered Users Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Suryavarman wrote: »
    So you have the same anti-logic views this thread was set up to mock? Good to know.

    "logic is a method of going wrong with confidence "


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    #2755
    PopePalpatine
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    Ann Coulter, the woman whose blood has a negative pH value, goes along to the Roast of Rob Lowe to publicise her eulogy to Cheeto Jesus. It doesn't go well for her.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwoGrDa5g2c


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    #2756
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    ^^^

    Goodness, one would almost feel pity for Ms Coulter.

    Almost.


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    #2757
    silverharp
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    ^^

    Ive seen a few of them in the past but its not my kind of comedy, its a bit too bottom of barrel vulgar however is there not a bit of hypocrisy, if someone on the opposite side of the spectrum got the equivalent routine they would be accused of misogyny and what not. she seemed to take it well , all the whiny snowflakes that want to shut down free speech on the internet should take a cue

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #2758
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    pauldla wrote: »
    Goodness, one would almost feel pity for Ms Coulter.
    While I've no time for Coulter and don't feel all that sorry for her as she went in presumably knowing what was going to happen, I have to say - and I can hear the echo of my father's voice in this - that the show was unbecoming, and not just because the jokes themselves were not jokes, but for the most part tasteless, sexist, humorless insults, but also because they all seem to have been written by a committee of spotty teenagers and read, robot-like, off a teleprompt.

    That clip added nothing to the sum total of human knowledge, experience or humor.


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    #2759
    Qs
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Qs


    silverharp wrote: »
    if someone on the opposite side of the spectrum got the equivalent routine they would be accused of misogyny and what not.

    Not really. Plenty of liberal women have been on the comedy central roasts and had gendered jokes made about them. Its par for the course.


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    #2760
    Christy42
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    robindch wrote: »
    While I've no time for Coulter and don't feel all that sorry for her as she went in presumably knowing what was going to happen, I have to say - and I can hear the echo of my father's voice in this - that the show was unbecoming, and not just because the jokes themselves were not jokes, but for the most part tasteless, sexist, humorless insults, but also because they all seem to have been written by a committee of spotty teenagers and read, robot-like, off a teleprompt.

    That clip added nothing to the sum total of human knowledge, experience or humor.

    Those roasts always seem forced. I find them littered with jokes were the entire punchline is that someone said something non pc. I have no issue with non pc jokes but saying something insulting and non pc does not guarantee something will be funny.


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    #2761
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Alternative viewpoint on the event
    This programming shows the degree that hatred sells
    What I find amusing is that all the real hate speech seems to come from one side.
    Its the same with the political rallies; Trump was constantly being interrupted by hecklers from the other side shouting vitriolic abuse at him. He just paused and waited calmly while security escorted them off the premises, and then resumed his speeches. Hillary never had to put up with any of that.


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