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201 Class Locomotives

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  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn


    Tuesday 17 06 2014.

    8208 was on the 11:00 Connolly Belfast Central.
    228 was on the 10:35 Belfast Central to Dublin Connolly.
    206 was on the 12:35 Belfast Central to Dublin Connolly.

    Regards all
    John...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Today at 15:00

    228 on an Enterprise set in platform 2.
    233 outside Connolly shed, sat there all day as a spare loco.
    207 was on the turntable behind the shed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    13:20 northbound Enterprise - 227 stopped at Harmonstown station today for while. Twitter reported points fault at HJ. Noticed a down dart on the UP line later on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    13:20 northbound Enterprise - 227 stopped at Harmonstown station today for while. Twitter reported points fault at HJ. Noticed a down dart on the UP line later on.

    Figured something was up at HJ earlier as I could hear hear DART horns all afternoon more so than usual.

    Those points have been giving alot of trouble in recent years especially at winter time. They badly need to be replaced the next time they close the line for a weekend, but can't see it happening as it would be an expensive and complicated job to get done over a weekend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    Figured something was up at HJ earlier as I could hear hear DART horns all afternoon more so than usual.

    Those points have been giving alot of trouble in recent years especially at winter time. They badly need to be replaced the next time they close the line for a weekend, but can't see it happening as it would be an expensive and complicated job to get done over a weekend.

    I took this photo of the points some time back - how the switched diamond, in the centre of the pic, operated had me curious. Note the train spotters apartments in the background with the sales banner.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭BonkeyDonker


    It is not a switch - just a cross over with no moving parts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    It is not a switch - just a cross over with no moving parts.

    There is two moving blades in the diamond, well not full blades but with movable "paddles" on each end that flick open or closed as needed. It's my local station for the past 29 years so I have spent many an hour watching those points as A class hauling Bell liners ran over them. If the diamond had no moving parts it wouldn't be failing as much as it is but a side effect of that with be a lower speed running through it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


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    They are powered. When it's quiet during the day you can hear the electrical motors from half way down the platforms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭flyingsnail


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    The blades would all be powered.
    This may help here



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭GBOA


    It's a switched diamond which although it allows faster running, is maintenance heavy. Only way to control it adequately is with a point motor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    Enterprises - 233 on 13:20 ex Connolly today, 227 inbound 14:45 at Killester.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    Enterprises: 8208 - passing Killester northbound about 13:30 today, 227 passed inbound an hour later.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    I saw 227 towing 233 through Drumcindra around 5.40, anyone know why?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    CTYIgirl wrote: »
    I saw 227 towing 233 through Drumcindra around 5.40, anyone know why?
    I saw the pair of them sitting in Connolly prior to that. Unsure why.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    227 and 231 perhaps, 233 is in Enterprise livery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    207 on the northbound Beller, approaching the Humpback bridge at Baldoyle, about 13:30 today.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,247 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    207 on the northbound Beller, approaching the Humpback bridge at Baldoyle, about 13:30 today.

    Am I alone in thinking Bell Ferries whenever I hear the phrase Beller? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    Am I alone in thinking Bell Ferries whenever I hear the phrase Beller? :)

    Dunno but it has a nice ring to it, don't you think ? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    CTYIgirl wrote: »
    I saw 227 towing 233 through Drumcindra around 5.40, anyone know why?

    231 had failed in Belfast. It was hauled to Connolly by 112 and 227 dragged her to Inchicore for attention.

    With the Enterprise, all the locos are looked after by IE and the rolling stock is maintained by NIR. So in a serious failure, like this where the loco can't move under it's own power to Dublin, they haul it to Inchicore to be fixed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭h.gricer


    Am I alone in thinking Bell Ferries whenever I hear the phrase Beller? :)
    You are alone.

    Regards
    hg


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭metrovick001




  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn


    Wednesday 30 07 2014.

    206 on the morning Ballina to North Wall liner seen at Portarlington @ 11:48.
    224 + 4001 at Heuston.
    227 + 9003 on the 12:35 from Belfast Central to Dublin Connolly passing Malahide @ 14:39.

    Regards to all.

    John...


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn


    Thursday 31 07 2014.

    207 + 9004 with the 15:20 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central.

    231 + 9001 with the 13:20 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central.

    233 + 9003 with the 14:05 Belfast Central to Dublin Connolly.

    Regards, John..


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭metrovick001


    Connolly 01-Aug-14

    207 on 11:00 to Belfast.
    208 & 228 outside the shed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn


    And to ad to the post above.

    9001 + 231 on the delayed 12:35 Belfast Central to Connolly....J...


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Salmon Leap


    206, 227 & 228 at Connolly shed.231 in P2 with Enterprise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭MoeJay


    231 at the Connolly shed, 206 stabled at platform 3 in Dundalk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    206 hauled the Dundalk to Belfast mk3s scrap transfer today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    218 (Inchicore)
    220 (Kildare) with late running Waterford Timber 50 minutes approx
    232 (Hueston) Standby


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  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    218 (Inchicore)
    220 (Kildare) with late running Waterford Timber 50 minutes approx
    232 (Hueston) Standby

    220 replaced 078 on the Westport to Waterford laden timber train. It left Lavistown Loop around 7pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,365 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    217 sitting in Kent station in cork in the siding by platform 1 and 2. There was two Dublin trains arrived in when I was in the station and both were ICRs.

    I got thinking as 217 seemed shut down and if a 201 mk4 set arrive into the station and as the train was then preparing to leave and the 201 failed or had to be taken off the train. How long would it take them to power up the spare 201 ?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If I recall correctly you're looking at about 20 minutes to do the pre-departure checks, prime and start the engine, as well as checking the brakes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭metrovick001




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Karsini wrote: »
    If I recall correctly you're looking at about 20 minutes to do the pre-departure checks, prime and start the engine, as well as checking the brakes.

    Would love if somebody could catch a video of one being started, it happens more now so it should be possible!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Would love if somebody could catch a video of one being started, it happens more now so it should be possible!

    Already done, up almost a year.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUlNhJHsXgk


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    218 worked the Westport to Waterford laden timber train.

    219 worked the Waterford to Westport empty timber train.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    218 currently working the Waterford to Westport empty timber train.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn


    Wednesday 13 08 2014.

    8208 + 9004 with the 14:05 Belfast Central to Dublin Connolly.
    231 + 9001 with the 13:20 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central.
    233 + 9003 with the 15: 20 Dublin Connolly to Belfast Central.
    228 at Connolly shed.

    J...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    NIR 3000 Class 3004 DMU on the 13:20 down Enterprise today, looks like a 201 out of action at the Belfast end. :-(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭jhnn


    NIR 3000 Class 3004 DMU on the 13:20 down Enterprise today, looks like a 201 out of action at the Belfast end. :-(

    They are regular visitors down here this last few weeks....J.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭steamengine


    jhnn wrote: »
    They are regular visitors down here this last few weeks....J.

    There was a 40 minute delay due to mechanical failure on the 07:35 departure ex Connolly according to IR twitter, which may have caused the substitution at the Belfast end ? Just curious as all three sets were running yesterday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    218 hauled the Waterford to Ballina timber train.

    234 hauled the Ballina to North Wall IWT liner.

    I was in Kildare from 12:30 to 5:15 today and I didn't encounter a single mk4 set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    GMKK96 wrote: »
    218 hauled the Waterford to Ballina timber train.

    234 hauled the Ballina to North Wall IWT liner.

    I was in Kildare from 12:30 to 5:15 today and I didn't encounter a single mk4 set.

    A Mark 4 service would of passed just before 5.30, the second Cork bound mark 4 of the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Something I alway wondered about the 201s

    When they are stopped and sitting idle...you can hear the engine rev up on its own then settle back down at times...or when they are coming to a halt....the revs will drop way down then come back up and idle.
    Anyone know the setup on these as to what's happening at the time.?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Something I alway wondered about the 201s

    When they are stopped and sitting idle...you can hear the engine rev up on its own then settle back down at times...or when they are coming to a halt....the revs will drop way down then come back up and idle.
    Anyone know the setup on these as to what's happening at the time.?

    Recharging the air compressors, I believe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭Rootsblower


    Karsini wrote: »
    Recharging the air compressors, I believe.

    Could also be cool down cycle


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    17-8-2014
    8208 hauled the Dundalk to Adelaide mk3 transfer.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    231 and 208 at Connolly shed at the moment


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  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭GMKK96


    19-8-2014

    229 worked the Ballina to Waterford DFDS liner. 10/12 CPWs were loaded, five of which had a mixture of DFDS and Norfolk curtain sided containers.


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