Calorie is a calorie?

Bruno26 wrote: »

Mexico?

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11 Experts Demolish the 'Calories-In-Calories-Out' Model

http://bit.ly/1lySaEs

1. Adele Hite

So, lessee. I stepped on the scale and I weigh 160 pounds. If I’m 55% water (hooray, no calories there!), and 4% minerals (wait, does calcium have calories?), and then 13% protein (4 calories), 24% fat (9 calories) and 4% carbohydrate (4 calories), well then, hmm multiply by and convert and carry the one and—got it!—I’m exactly 194766.884 I’m exactly 206112.371 calories.

That means if I decrease my calorie intake by 500 calories a day (this where all that helpful calorie information on the side of the box of low-fat, high-fiber, individually calorie-control portion food comes in handy) and increase my activity by 500 calories a day (which I understand I can do simply through insanity, which—according to my children—should not be much of a stretch), that means that on November 10, 2012, sometime around noon, I will disappear altogether because all my calories will be gone

2. Dr. David Ludwig and Mark Freedman

FOR most of the last century, our understanding of the cause of obesity has been based on immutable physical law. Specifically, it’s the first law of thermodynamics, which dictates that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. When it comes to body weight, this means that calorie intake minus calorie expenditure equals calories stored. Surrounded by tempting foods, we overeat, consuming more calories than we can burn off, and the excess is deposited as fat. The simple solution is to exert willpower and eat less.......But what if we’ve confused cause and effect? What if it’s not overeating that causes us to get fat, but the process of getting fatter that causes us to overeat?

3. Gary Taubes

[Certain genetically obese mice] will fatten excessively regardless of how much they eat. The obesity is not dependent on the number of calories they consume

4. Dr. Mark Hyman

Yes, that well-worn notion—that as long as you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight—is simply dead wrong....But sorry, Mr. Newton; your law of thermodynamics doesn’t apply in living, breathing, digesting systems. When you eat food, the “isolated system” part of the equation goes out the window.

5. Tom Naughton

(Just spent a few hundred words asking that people leave fat people alone)

6. Sam Feltham

Simply put the energy in their body fat stores is trapped and accumulating, similar to a tumour that is growing. Unless their biochemical imbalances are rebalanced they will remain overweight or obese, even in a calorie deficit in a lot of cases, and will most likely develop either type 2 diabetes, chronic heart disease, cancer, alzheimer’s or even a combination of these called metabolic syndrome.

7. Richard Feinman and Eugene FIne

The second law is a dissipation law [which] says that variation of efficiency for different metabolic pathways is to be expected. Thus, ironically the dictum that a “calorie is a calorie” violates the second law of thermodynamics, as a matter of principle
(huh?)

8. “ItsTheWoo”

“Ya know blog, I’m not sure if [the CICO advocates] are actually purposefully pretending to misunderstand the hormone hypothesis argument, or if they really are too stupid to understand it. I just can’t tell. In my view it is beyond evident physiological factors are responsible for fat mass gain; calories and the mechanisms to obtain them (sloth/gluttony) are merely reactive to the body state which is controlled by baseline physiology. So, when [the CICO advocates] for years and years and *years* keep writing mind numbingly stupid **** like this:

‘We again are asked to ignore the obvious — that Americans are definitely eating more, on average, with no concurrent need for those calories, and likely moving a bit less as well.’

I just don’t know what to think anymore.

9. J. Stanton

The fate of a “calorie” of food depends completely on its specific molecular composition, the composition of the foods accompanying it, and how those molecules interact with our current metabolic and nutritional state.

10. Bill Lagakos

Counting calories to lose weight does not work for the majority of dieters. This happens, in part, because the calories in food are not the same as those expended by the body.

11. Jonathan Bailor

In this revolutionary book informed by over 1,300 studies and the new science of fat loss, food, and fitness, Bailor shows us how eating more—of the right kinds of foods—and exercising less—but at a higher intensity—is actually the key to burning fat, healing our hormones, boosting metabolism, and creating long-term weight loss. When we eat lots of high-quality foods like whole plants and nutritious proteins, our bodies are able to achieve a natural, healthy weight—automatically.”

Bruno26 wrote: »

I have.

Have you read 'the big fat surprise' yet? Explains really well how many facts / proof / academic research of last 50 years is flawed and how anyone in academia who went against the mainstream view was ostracised.

Bruno26 wrote: »

Possibly. Peer reviewed didn't do much to stop Ancel Keys.

http://youtu.be/Bsx72V4IpJY

Bruno26 wrote: »

Wel you obviously didn't read too far down! The fact you don't know anything about Keys reflects your ignorance / intolerance of the discussion.

popolive wrote: »

I dont have time to read the thread yet but would just like to leave this and ask a question .


http://voices.yahoo.com/understanding-thermogenic-effects-food-533904.html


Is protein more ''Thermogenic'' than carbs or fat and hence costs more energy per calorie to use it and hence one might conclude if this is true that ''a calorie is not a calorie?''

Bruno26 wrote: »

You said I don't know much about nutrition. It appears that qualified dieticians and nutritionists don't know a lot about nutrition.

Bruno26 wrote: »

Ah here! Base your meals on bread, pasta and rice and eat breakfast cereals is sound nutritional advice?

dor843088 wrote: »

http://www.safefood.eu/Healthy-Eating/What-is-a-balanced-diet/The-Food-Pyramid.aspx

Heres the food pyramid chaps . Perfectly good , sound nutritional advice that the worlds experts agree on. Apart from a few " experts " trying to make a splash and sell a few books or make a name for themselves. Put your common sense hat on guys.