Things you wish were common knowledge.... but aren't!

Random · 18-03-2009 12:43am

Also... what a complete waste of a Garda's Time. In fact I think its a humilation of the Gardai involved. I was happier when I thought they were buying it for themselves !!

What he said to be honest ! Garda have enough problems getting to calls in time without spending half their time down the chipper.

Zuppy · 18-03-2009 12:48am

dredre wrote: »

Out of Dublin, many local fire chiefs wont dispatch to an RTC if the ambulance service requests them until the ambulance actually arrives on scene and confirms they are needed. This leads to long delays, so I would call the fire service AND the ambulance service seperately.

Either the fire or ambulance service will notify the Gardai if you ask (And often even if you don't). Depending on the incident, you might have time to ring Gardai yourself as well and avoid the chinese whispers between controls.

In Cork the Ambulance Service only seem to call the Fire Brigade AFTER they get to the scene.

Gardai and Fire Service usually don't trust anyone to call other services (for multi service call) and ring around.

Fire Service has regional controls but has no national governing body or minimum national standards, which means when you see loads of firemen milling about in different gear and trucks it looks like a ragtag outfit.

CharlieCroker · 18-03-2009 12:50am

Random wrote: »

What he said to be honest ! Garda have enough problems getting to calls in time without spending half their time down the chipper.

You think that's bad? A prisoner gets a FREE (albeit basic) meal if they're in custody long enough. It's part of their rights.
A prisoner also needs to be checked every 30 minutes which means while they get a break and food, the member-in-charge who's looking after them cant take a break unless there's somebody to cover for them.

johnnyskeleton · 18-03-2009 2:24am

CharlieCroker wrote: »

You think that's bad? A prisoner gets a FREE (albeit basic) meal if they're in custody long enough. It's part of their rights.
A prisoner also needs to be checked every 30 minutes which means while they get a break and food, the member-in-charge who's looking after them cant take a break unless there's somebody to cover for them.

While it might seem bad for the individual garda who is stuck doing mic duty for a full shift, on the other hand, it is the responsibility of the well funded government to make sure that there are enough gardai to cover such functions.

deadwood · 18-03-2009 9:38am

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

While it might seem bad for the individual garda who is stuck doing mic duty for a full shift, on the other hand, it is the responsibility of the well funded government to make sure that there are enough gardai to cover such functions.

"Exigencies of the service" is a motto that management live by. It's an all-encompassing get-out-of-jail card, i'm afraid.

DeVore · 18-03-2009 2:30pm

<off topic> Which is why we have a health care system where doctors and nurses put their own health on the line working ridiculous hours to fill in the gaps.

I have refused treatment (an injection) because the doctor was on his feet over 20 hours and was yawning while waving a needle at me. You should have seen the furor that caused....

DeV.

deadwood · 18-03-2009 2:36pm

DeVore wrote: »

<off topic> Which is why we have a health care system where doctors and nurses put their own health on the line working ridiculous hours to fill in the gaps.

I have refused treatment (an injection) because the doctor was on his feet over 20 hours and was yawning while waving a needle at me. You should have seen the furor that caused....

DeV.

This him?

DeVore · 18-03-2009 3:11pm

Actually I had written a big long off topic rant on this but I'm going to write it in a new post.

DeV.

brayblue24 · 18-03-2009 10:34pm

deadwood wrote: »

This him?

He's a great man for a cert when you need one though!

deadwood · 18-03-2009 10:45pm

brayblue24 wrote: »

He's a great man for a cert when you need one though!

And he'll never refuse animal leave!

19-03-2009 11:08am

Just because the bar/nightclub is full and you are too drunk to get in anywhere does not give you the right to piss in the street!

sunnyjim · 19-03-2009 9:19pm

Just because the bar/nightclub is full and you are too drunk to get in anywhere does not give you the right to piss in the street!

Err, imagine its 4am in the city centre. Food places are closed, and the pubs and clubs have been kicking people out since 2am, not letting anyone back in. The queue for the taxis is manic, as the nightlinks are finished.

Are you still gonna go for someone who's takin a wee down an alley? Or would you prefer they piss themselves?

Yours sincerely,

Sunnyjim.

djtechnics1210 · 19-03-2009 9:26pm

It's be funnier to see them piss themselves!!!!!!!!!!!

TheNog · 19-03-2009 9:52pm

yeah like follow them around to make sure they dont pee anywhere.

sadistic but funnily so

djtechnics1210 · 19-03-2009 10:01pm

Or whats really funny is when you stop someone and tell them to stop pi*sing (which is impossible to do as we all know) they end pi*sing all over themselves.
Very sadistic but funny

TheNog · 19-03-2009 10:21pm

you are sick LOL

sunnyjim · 19-03-2009 10:51pm

Right.

eroo · 19-03-2009 10:57pm

sunnyjim wrote: »

Right.

Simple, go home before 4am!!!! Clubs kick out at 2 or half 2.. just get some grub and go off home.

djtechnics1210 · 19-03-2009 11:19pm

Exactly eroo, if the tight feckers bought some food they could use the toilet in there.
Diageo obviously haven't gotten their point across to peter p*ssy down laneways

eroo · 19-03-2009 11:26pm

djtechnics1210 wrote: »

Exactly eroo, if the tight feckers bought some food they could use the toilet in there.
Diageo obviously haven't gotten their point across to peter p*ssy down laneways

Or reuse yer empty bottles! :pac:

sunnyjim · 19-03-2009 11:38pm

eroo wrote: »

Simple, go home before 4am!!!! Clubs kick out at 2 or half 2.. just get some grub and go off home.

Maybe re-read my post. After they have closed, and we're all hanging around waiting for taxis.

Diageo have been trying to get through to me for a while. They even employed me to try sort me out - they've just made me worse!

eroo · 19-03-2009 11:45pm

sunnyjim wrote: »

Maybe re-read my post. After they have closed, and we're all hanging around waiting for taxis.

Hold it in! t's not easy, but it is doable;)

sunnyjim · 19-03-2009 11:55pm

:rolleyes:

75 minutes waiting for a taxi is not do-able. Well, maybe if you're a bloke it is. For a girl, it's pretty much not gonna happen.

daithip · 20-03-2009 12:11am

When you gotta go you gotta go, we've all been there, but just do it out of the view of the rest of the population

deadwood · 20-03-2009 10:51am

daithip wrote: »

When you gotta go you gotta go, we've all been there, but just do it out of the view of the rest of the population

And let someone else clean it the next morning.
Nice.

maglite · 20-03-2009 11:09am

http://www.aiglacockgullam.com/projects/city_westminster.shtml

Have to say thou, its a fact of life when you need to go you need to go. If your out of eyeshot it should be ok.

deadwood · 20-03-2009 12:23pm

maglite wrote: »

If your out of eyeshot it should be ok.

But not if that means on someones car/doorway/garden/wall, does it?

Maybe i'm just old fashined. I hate when people spit too.

deadwood · 20-03-2009 12:43pm

A couple more things I wish people did.

READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE PASSPORT FORM!

If you have difficulty, fine i'll help as best I can. The amount of people who come in with a blank form, 3 screaming kids and no i.d.:mad: It's all there on the form if you take 5 minutes.

*Note to other members when helping people with forms. As a young guard, I met an elderly man once who forgot his glasses so I filled in his form for him. When I asked him to sign it he did so with some effort. He sheepishly admitted he couldn't write and the "forgot my glasses" line had served him well over the years. Just bear it in mind before you send someone packing for not having a form filled in. Also remember, they might just have forgotten their glasses!*

daithip · 20-03-2009 5:19pm

deadwood wrote: »

And let someone else clean it the next morning.
Nice.

I'm not condoning it, dead and I've prosecuted lads for it, but it's a damn sight better seeing a guy peeing down an alley (not that I'd be looking, before the smart comments :rolleyes:) than in someone's doorway, that's my point.

ScubaDave · 20-03-2009 5:47pm

Another thing - since i seen it today.....

Putting your phone on loud speaker and holding it 8 inchs from your face does NOT mean your allowed to use it while driving!

Sparks · 20-03-2009 5:50pm

ScubaDave wrote: »

Putting your phone on loud speaker and holding it 8 inchs from your face does NOT mean your allowed to use it while driving!

I take it that this doesn't apply if the phone's sitting on the dash while on loudspeaker, right?

daithip · 20-03-2009 6:47pm

Think the offence is actually to hold the mobile phone while driving, which would include texting and using the speaker.

deadwood · 20-03-2009 7:08pm

daithip wrote: »

I'm not condoning it, dead and I've prosecuted lads for it, but it's a damn sight better seeing a guy peeing down an alley (not that I'd be looking, before the smart comments :rolleyes:) than in someone's doorway, that's my point.

That's Mr dead to you, sonny.:D

I get your point. I find a gentle shove into the small of the back and "hello, it's not that cold, is it?" does wonders.

20-03-2009 9:10pm

The alley may seem convenient it is there for a purpose. Could be access for somebodys business or a way that people walk to work.

You may have noticed all of the taxi drivers protesting lately that there is too many of them.

There is no excuse, use the toilet before you leave the bar, club, restaurant. Or wait 'til you get home.

And don't expect me to shake your hand!

Heckler · 20-03-2009 11:07pm

I was wondering about the abandoned cars i.e. failed ncts, clapped out etc, that are left on various roundabouts, side roads etc. Is there not some way that the various corporations who have to scrap them can give the Gardai reg numbers and find out who owns the cars to persue them ?

Someone I know had a scanner years back and says he used to hear Gardai in their cars routinely calling in reg numbers while driving around to check on outstanding fines or whatever.

Probably they can check it in-car now I don't know.

johnnyskeleton · 21-03-2009 1:58am

DeVore wrote: »

Actually I had written a big long off topic rant on this but I'm going to write it in a new post.

DeV.

Got a link?

This is the emergency services forum, so you have to back up what you say with evidence...

...oh wait...

johnnyskeleton · 21-03-2009 2:02am

daithip wrote: »

Think the offence is actually to hold the mobile phone while driving, which would include texting and using the speaker.

Also, arguably, it depends on whether you are driving at the time or parked in traffic. Depends on the judge I suppose, although most DJs are nothing more than an extension of the local garda station to be honest.

Trojan911 · 21-03-2009 2:35am

Sparks wrote: »

I take it that this doesn't apply if the phone's sitting on the dash while on loudspeaker, right?

Correct. The offence is committed if you are holding the phone and driving. So if it's down beside you or on the dash on speaker, you are ok (as long as it dosen't cause you to lose concentration).

A defence for using a phone when driving is using it to call the emergency services.

Com1186 · 21-03-2009 2:57am

A beaut......

person rings in and complains or you cant help with their problem WHAT IS YOUR NAME AND NUMBER GAURD...... doesnt fix the problem nor put fear into the garda....

TomRooney · 21-03-2009 1:52pm

mcguiver wrote: »

Blue light, sirens, if they are behind you and you cant see or hear them... see a doctor, and sell your car, cos you shouldn't be on the road.

just to note, it is not a legal requirement for a car to move off the road or out of the way of the Gardai whether the siren and lights are on or off, but would in my opinion be a sensible thing to do if it is safe to do so.

the reason i post this is because some Gardai seem to think they almost have the right to Ram you off the road if you happen to be in front of them.

TheNog · 21-03-2009 4:16pm

+1 to that and its mostly down to lack of training, tunnel vision and frustration of the amount of traffic on the part of the Gardai.

Trojan911 · 22-03-2009 7:02pm

TheNog wrote: »

+1 to that and its mostly down to lack of training, tunnel vision and frustration of the amount of traffic on the part of the Gardai.

I found that it was also frustrating when you know that time was of the essence to get to a scene, heavy traffic was a killer. Just had to grin & bear it sometimes in the London traffic.

Though I will hand it to Londoners, they moved pretty sharp when the need arose.

opti76 · 22-03-2009 7:55pm

the fact thats its daddys car wont stop me from summonsing you for no licence or tax or headlights missing or dangerous driving or no l plates no fully licenced driver accompanying or tinted windows..

Sully · 22-03-2009 8:24pm

opti76 wrote: »

...or tinted windows..

Wasn't aware this was an offence.

kerry4sam · 22-03-2009 8:27pm

Sully wrote: »

Wasn't aware this was an offence.

I thought they could be 30% tinted but no darker ... so guards et al can still view in

Hooch · 22-03-2009 9:29pm

Presently there is a lazer that you attached inside and out to the vehicle to test how dark it is, but this is only on trial at the moment. We convict buy sitting into the drivers seat (legal right of a Garda to test your vehicle believe it or not) and viewing the drivers/passenger side mirrors. If your vision is blurred by tint then it is illegal and that is the evidence given in court.

Hooch · 22-03-2009 9:32pm

And to get the tread back on track, nothing worse than on point duty with the Jeep parked across a road, lights flashing, blue lights on road, coned off and two nice big signs saying ''Road Closed'' and someone driving up ''can i go through Garda'' or ''Is the road closed Garda''.
No my dear i just decided to try out all this flashy stuff in the middle of the road, and the signs, well i was just checking of they were in English!!!:D

Hooch · 22-03-2009 10:18pm

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Also, arguably, it depends on whether you are driving at the time or parked in traffic. Depends on the judge I suppose, although most DJs are nothing more than an extension of the local garda station to be honest.

For the purposes of the RTA the offence is holding a mobile phone while driving contrary to Section 3 RTA 1961-06 which includes holding it while on loud speaker, positioning it between your shoulder and head or even in your pocket (although that is an extreme), and parked in traffic is driving an MPV for this section.

In regard to your comment on distric court judges, i think that is very unfair. DCJ are very fair in this country. Can you back up this statement that they are an extention of the local garda station.

Esel · 23-03-2009 12:46am

nice guy always wrote: »

...includes holding it while on loud speaker, positioning it between your shoulder and head or even in your pocket (although that is an extreme).....

Not being facetious, but is it really an offence to have the phone in your pocket?? That's where the vast majority of male drivers carry theirs, after all!

parsi · 23-03-2009 10:23am

nice guy always wrote: »

And to get the tread back on track, nothing worse than on point duty with the Jeep parked across a road, lights flashing, blue lights on road, coned off and two nice big signs saying ''Road Closed'' and someone driving up ''can i go through Garda'' or ''Is the road closed Garda''.
No my dear i just decided to try out all this flashy stuff in the middle of the road, and the signs, well i was just checking of they were in English!!!:D

Possibly something to do with the Irish tendency to declare roads closed but leave them open for locals/residents.

Things you wish were common knowledge.... but aren't!

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