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  • #2
    BuffyBot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    If born in Ireland on or before 31 December 2004 -
    and applying for your first Irish passport....you require to submit the long form of your Irish State birth certificate which shows the names of your parents

    I've filleted out the relevent bits..as this is your first passport, you need the long form of your birth certificate.


  • #3
    SpitfireIV
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,506 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    Ok, thanks........have to track down a birth cert so :rolleyes:


  • #4
    Dub13
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Read HERE before posting. Also, read HERE for details on the Passport Appointment Booking Service, a pilot-programme lasting 3-months.

    Thanks,
    kerry4sam

    I no you can get one of these in 2/3 days but can you get it on the day..?Me and MrsDub13 are off to Liverpool on Tuesday and when I went to do the online check in last night I found out her passport is out of date.

    So she is going to head in first thing Monday morrning and she if she can pick one up.Does anybody know if its possable..?


  • #5
    GalwayKiefer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭GalwayKiefer


    Yes but you have to go to the issuing office in Dublin and it costs extra. Mate of mine needed one asap to attend a family funeral 2 years ago and I think it cost him €150 but not 100% sure on the cost. He went up and explained his case and had to wait around a few hours but got it that day.


  • #6
    Dub13
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    GalKiefer wrote: »
    Yes but you have to go to the issuing office in Dublin and it costs extra. Mate of mine needed one asap to attend a family funeral 2 years ago and I think it cost him €150 but not 100% sure on the cost. He went up and explained his case and had to wait around a few hours but got it that day.

    Thanks thats good news,its not to expensive if you conceder a normal one cost 89 euro.


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  • #7
    Random
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Ryanair? If you check in at the airport you can use driving license as proof of ID, you'll pay airport check in fee but might be cheaper than emergency passport?


  • #8
    Dub13
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Random wrote: »
    Ryanair? If you check in at the airport you can use driving license as proof of ID, you'll pay airport check in fee but might be cheaper than emergency passport?

    You cant do that anymore,the common travel area between Ireland and the UK is gone.You now need a passport to enter the UK.


  • #9
    Random
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Ryanair website disagrees?
    http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/faqs.php?sect=pid&quest=photoid
    For British and Irish citizens who are travelling on flights to/from the United Kingdom, to/from the Republic of Ireland (Common Travel Area), a valid driving licence with photo is acceptable photo ID. Passengers who are citizens of other countries travelling on these routes must present a valid passport (with visa if applicable) or a National Identity Card issued either by the government of a European Economic Area (EEA) country or Switzerland.


  • #10
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Random wrote: »
    Ryanair website disagrees?
    http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/faqs.php?sect=pid&quest=photoid


    Then it just hasn't been updated. You may not need a passport to get on the plane but there was someone here last week who confirmed that you need a passport to get into the UK.


  • #11
    Dub13
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Random wrote: »
    Ryanair website disagrees?
    http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/faqs.php?sect=pid&quest=photoid

    The UK Government disagree with Ryanair,I would tend to agree with the UK goverment...

    Link
    16 January 2009

    Irish, UK travellers now need passport checks

    After 80 years of free movement, Irish and UK nationals will now need to have the passports formally checked at border controls, according to the UK Parliament's new legislation published yesterday, 15th January.
    Over the next five years, the government will gradually introduce a multibillion-pound electronic system monitor the 15 million people who travel between the Britain and Ireland annually, reports the Guardian.

    The border between the Irish Republic and Britain had been a common travel area since the Irish Free State was established in 1922. The Irish government has also confirmed it would introduce a new border security system to monitor illegal immigration.


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  • #12
    Random
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Dub13 wrote: »
    The UK Government disagree with Ryanair,I would tend to agree with the UK goverment...

    Link
    Someone in Ryanair really needs to sort that out then.

    Granted, the responsbility is on the traveller to ensure they have accurate info but this is nonsense !


  • #13
    Dub13
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Random wrote: »
    Someone in Ryanair really needs to sort that out then.

    Granted, the responsbility is on the traveller to ensure they have accurate info but this is nonsense !

    Yea they do,you would get on the plane and into the UK no prob as when you do the on line check in ryanair only see you at the boarding gate and I find they just look at your passport pic then give you the boarding card.

    What will need to happen for them to change this is some poor sod will get refused entry into the UK and Ryanair will be forced to carry them back free of charge.It will change quick fast then.


  • #14
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Random wrote: »
    Someone in Ryanair really needs to sort that out then.


    Add-on charge for bothering to update our website. €0.25 per passenger.


  • #15
    Random
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Dub13 wrote: »
    Yea they do,you would get on the plane and into the UK no prob as when you do the on line check in ryanair only see you at the boarding gate and I find they just look at your passport pic then give you the boarding card.

    What will need to happen for them to change this is some poor sod will get refused entry into the UK and Ryanair will be forced to carry them back free of charge.It will change quick fast then.
    If you checkin online only a passport is accepted so the chances are Ryanair will start turning people away at checkin desks.

    I can see the episode of Airline now ... :D


  • #16
    Chinafoot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Don't forget to bring proof of travel to the Passport Office. Friend of mine had trouble with getting one issued because she didn't bring any documents showing she was travelling soon. She got it in the end but after a lot of arguing :)

    Copy of your flight confirmation should do the trick in getting things moving.


  • #17
    Dub13
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    Don't forget to bring proof of travel to the Passport Office. Friend of mine had trouble with getting one issued because she didn't bring any documents showing she was travelling soon. She got it in the end but after a lot of arguing :)

    Copy of your flight confirmation should do the trick in getting things moving.

    I will do that,thanks.


  • #18
    balliali
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭balliali


    When an Irish passport expires, and a new one is issued, does the new one retain the Passport Number that the old one had?? Please and thanks


  • #19
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    No, I don't think (based on personal experience).


  • #20
    Shifty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭Shifty


    Got a new 10 year passport yesterday and it has a different number to my old 10 year passport (have both passports here beside me)


  • #21
    BuffyBot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    The UK Government disagree with Ryanair,I would tend to agree with the UK goverment...

    The legislation was just published, not yet enacted from what I can see. Two different things :)


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  • #22
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    no different numbers, the newer passports have more digits


  • #23
    Random
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Have had 3 passports now, all with different numbers.


  • #24
    Dub13
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    She got the passport fine,now mother nature may get in the way of this trip.


  • #25
    irwin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭irwin


    ok,

    well the first time i lost it, my jacket got robbed from a pub in dublin along with my wallet and all other id's...my fault for leaving it unattended, blah blah blah.:( (nice jacket too...)

    so, got a new one!!! happy days! Anyway, can't seem to find the blasted thing, just moved house and EVERYTHING has been moved/dumped....

    it may pop up still, but im wondering can i get a new one, after ive reported lost two passports. now, as i said, im slightly confident its gona pop up.

    But just wondering is their a cap on how many times you can get a new passport after losing them?


  • #26
    Nothingcompares
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    i lost 2 within about 3 years of each other and applied for a 3rd . They gave it to me but it was only a 3 year one rather than a 10 year!


  • #27
    irwin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭irwin


    hmmm...these have been lost within 6 months of each other:o. a three year one? i suppose thats better than nothing.


  • #28
    Berty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,152 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    You know it will turn up once you have parted with your money in the post office, :rolleyes:


  • #29
    cailinoBAC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭cailinoBAC


    This could be totally wrong, but a friend told me about her friend (see what I mean!) who had lost her passport 3 times and was told she wouldn't get a new one for 10 years, as I suppose, they were starting to suspect she was selling them. I often wondered about that but never looked into it. Anybody any more info?
    I know a guy who lost his passport twice in South America and got a new one ok each time, but I'm not sure if they were proper 10 year ones.


  • #30
    irwin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭irwin


    I also heard a simialar story and someone not getting one for 10 years!!!
    but how do they judge the fact that somone is being honest and losing their passports rather than selling them on to god knows where? anyway, i doubt you can forge the new passports, their fairly forgery proof.


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  • #31
    irwin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭irwin


    FYI, i have found the missing passport. THANK GOD!

    but, its still interesting to know if anyone knows of any one that got refused a passport etc...


  • #32
    RATM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    cailinoBAC wrote: »
    This could be totally wrong, but a friend told me about her friend (see what I mean!) who had lost her passport 3 times and was told she wouldn't get a new one for 10 years, as I suppose, they were starting to suspect she was selling them. I often wondered about that but never looked into it. Anybody any more info?
    I know a guy who lost his passport twice in South America and got a new one ok each time, but I'm not sure if they were proper 10 year ones.

    I'd find that very hard to believe. They do certainly take a dim view of people who lose more than one passport and a previous poster is right in saying they won't issue a 10year passport if you lose your 2nd one but a 3 year one instead.
    But not issuing one for 10 years is effectively keeping you prisoner in your own country for a whole decade and there's bound to be some legislation on limits of the state's power in that regard.
    It would seem totally out of place that a state could effectively keep you locked within their territorial boundaries (except when you are charged with a criminal offense) without any proof whatsoever that you deliberately sold your passport.
    Anyone could be unlucky and lose 2 passports in a lifetime(Ive lost one so far), that doesn't mean the state has the right to prevent future travel.

    I know from experience that if you have to replace a passport in an Irish embassy whilst abroad it will only be valid for one year.
    You pay full whack but then you swap it for a 10 year passport when you get home. At least that was the case in 2002 when I did it.


  • #33
    RATM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    irwin wrote: »
    I also heard a simialar story and someone not getting one for 10 years!!!
    but how do they judge the fact that somone is being honest and losing their passports rather than selling them on to god knows where? anyway, i doubt you can forge the new passports, their fairly forgery proof.

    Anything can be forged, from banknotes to passports. You'd be very surprised the lengths some people in developing countries go to forge a passport and they tend to do such a good job it works.
    BTW glad to hear you found your passport, nothing worse than paying for a new one and then the old one shows up...:)


  • #34
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    If you have a poor passport record, ie have lost two or more passports, it is likely that only very limited passport facilities will be given for specific travel purposes. On each occasion on which a passport is issued, even when this is a limited validity passport, the full passport fee will be payable.
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/travel-abroad/passports/replacing_a_lost_or_stolen_Irish_passport

    Based on the above it looks like they would only issue a replacement to cover a specific time period or trip.


  • #35
    cailinoBAC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭cailinoBAC


    Gran Hermano wrote: »
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/travel-abroad/passports/replacing_a_lost_or_stolen_Irish_passport

    Based on the above it looks like they would only issue a replacement to cover a specific time period or trip.

    Yeah, that was the impression I got. Not that you'd be kept prisoner in Ireland, but that you'd have to apply for some kind of temporary passport every time you were going away. But as I said, it was a friend of a friend so I don't know the exact details.

    As for forging a passport, yeah considering the amounts of money people will pay, I'm sure there will always be ways found around it. Though if I lost mine, I think it would be very easy to forge. Awwww, just 1 year left of my handwritten passport and immigrations officers scratching their heads as they look for the barcode...


  • #36
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    I have a British passport and so have to get mine from the embassy in Dublin, rather than at the post office. At €151 a pop I can't afford to keep losing them.

    I did lose it though, once in 2006 (was within my bag, which was stolen when my car was broken in to, while parked in private "secure" parking at my apartment complex). I got a replacement which was lost in 2008, while on holiday in England, and I reported it to the local police.

    Anyway, when I applied for a replacement from the embassy, after coming back to Ireland from my trip to England, I got a call from this git who worked at the embassy, coming down on me like a ton of bricks - saying (among other things) that if I lose this one I'll be put on a black list, and future passports will be issued to me with one year validity at a time (though at full cost).

    I tried to explain to him that the first time I was a victim of crime, and the guards were called etc etc, and the second time it was a genuine loss and I did everything possible to try and recover it. But he was having none of it. I'm not some careless kid. It was two very unfortunate occasions, both of which completely head-wrecking. The loss in England had me driving throughout most of Birmingham and back again, retracing my steps, frantically trying to remember where I'd dropped it. My wife and I very nearly weren't allowed to board our flight back to Ireland - the whole escapade was dire. Last thing I needed was some jumped up civil servant on the phone trying to teach me how to suck eggs.

    Anyway, out of interest, I then called the UK Passport Office in England and told them about the call I received from the guy at the embassy, and they told me there's no such thing as a black list, they do not issue one year validity passports and invited me to make a formal complaint about the embassy should I wish to!


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  • #37
    irwin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭irwin


    benifa wrote: »
    I have a British passport and so have to get mine from the embassy in Dublin, rather than at the post office. At €151 a pop I can't afford to keep losing them.

    I did lose it though, once in 2006 (was within my bag, which was stolen when my car was broken in to, while parked in private "secure" parking at my apartment complex). I got a replacement which was lost in 2008, while on holiday in England, and I reported it to the local police.

    Anyway, when I applied for a replacement from the embassy, after coming back to Ireland from my trip to England, I got a call from this git who worked at the embassy, coming down on me like a ton of bricks - saying (among other things) that if I lose this one I'll be put on a black list, and future passports will be issued to me with one year validity at a time (though at full cost).

    I tried to explain to him that the first time I was a victim of crime, and the guards were called etc etc, and the second time it was a genuine loss and I did everything possible to try and recover it. But he was having none of it. I'm not some careless kid. It was two very unfortunate occasions, both of which completely head-wrecking. The loss in England had me driving throughout most of Birmingham and back again, retracing my steps, frantically trying to remember where I'd dropped it. My wife and I very nearly weren't allowed to board our flight back to Ireland - the whole escapade was dire. Last thing I needed was some jumped up civil servant on the phone trying to teach me how to suck eggs.

    Anyway, out of interest, I then called the UK Passport Office in England and told them about the call I received from the guy at the embassy, and they told me there's no such thing as a black list, they do not issue one year validity passports and invited me to make a formal complaint about the embassy should I wish to!


    wow. thats a bit of a nightmare situation alright!!! so, out of curiosity... the man said you would be put on a black list(even though theres no such thing) and you can only have a passport for a year at a time?

    are you on even a 'suspended' passport(like 3 years), or, are you on a normal one again?


  • #38
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    irwin wrote: »
    wow. thats a bit of a nightmare situation alright!!! so, out of curiosity... the man said you would be put on a black list(even though theres no such thing) and you can only have a passport for a year at a time?

    are you on even a 'suspended' passport(like 3 years), or, are you on a normal one again?

    Normal, 10 year passport.

    The Identity & Passport Service who I subsequently called in England, said the guy at the embassy was right to call me, to ask me to verify my stories etc., but should have been sympathetic, shouldn't have insinuated anything untoward, and certainly shouldn't have threatened me about a phantom "black list"! They were really quite shocked, as I recall.


  • #39
    Sitec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Sitec


    Been the big unorganised mess that i am, i applied for a new passport today. flying to america the 4th of July. Went down the passport express route and should have the new one the 1st of July. If i do not get it by then who do i go to to get it?:eek:


  • #40
    mikedragon32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,939 ✭✭✭mikedragon32


    Don't worry... You will get it on time. Passport Express is very reliable. If you ordered it today, I'd be very surprised if you didn't have it before the end of June.


  • #41
    Sitec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Sitec


    i hopse so, my passport cracked (ints the new type one). i only noticed it yesterday. if worst comes to worst and it does not arrive do i have any other options. someone was telling me about going up to the passport office in dublin and they can do it for you there and then?:confused:


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  • #42
    I'm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭I'm


    A passport of limited validity ( 1 year ) for urgent travel purposes can be issued by the Dept in such cases - need proof of travel.

    http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=259

    In my case it was the Emergency Out of Hours service - facilitated by my local TD.


  • #43
    ve
    Closed Accounts Posts: 448 ✭✭ve


    Before I sent in my application I was looking at booking earlier flights, so I rang up the DFA and the lady I spoke with was very rude. I asked would it be possible to get a passport in the same day if I arrived first thing in the morning with my application and proof of travel. She said not a notion!. I am not based in Dublin, and would need to pay for accommodation. So I asked, well how many days would we be talking and she said I can't tell you, you will have to ask someone at the desk when you get here. I asked her to put me through to someone at the desk and she said "No!". So I had no option but to book later flights, which was thankfully still an option but more expensive.

    Anyway +1 that passport express is reliable. Got the passport in the letterbox 13 days (9 working) later. I was in a similar predicament to you OP and was on the DFA's Passport Application tracking thingy every day. Once an post delivered it to them it said that my application arrived and was subject to approval, would be released by date (x). The thing kept on saying that until the evening of date (x). Then it changed to approved and sent out. The next day it arrived.

    Earlier on date (x) I rang up the DFA and spoke to another lady. She asked me when I sent it in and she just reiterated that the passport express service means that you get it done in 10 working days. No matter what I said or asked, she just kept repeating that. I was a little concerned because the tracking status was not changing. She would not comment on my case or give me a more accurate status update.

    So the way I look at it is this. If you are travelling in > 10 days, then passport express is your only option. If travelling in under 10 days, get on the phone to a local TD and pray.


  • #44
    jester77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    I was in the same situation recently but I'm living abroad. I rang the embassy and they told me to contact the day before I was flying if it still hadn't arrived. They overnighted an emergency passport to me and it arrived in the morning along with the new passport so I ended up not needing it.


  • #45
    lynchie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭lynchie


    mikedragon32 wrote: »
    Don't worry... You will get it on time. Passport Express is very reliable. If you ordered it today, I'd be very surprised if you didn't have it before the end of June.

    If you ordered it today, you should have it by June 30th assuming no issues with photos / application form. I hope you took down the application number on the form so you can check the progress of the application on www.dfa.ie.

    Once you get it apply for your ESTA straight away. They recommend 72 hours in advance of travel, so any delays to your passport could cause an issue.


  • #46
    Munster Gal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭Munster Gal


    I applied for my son's passport yesterday in the Cork office and I'll be collecting it on the 30th of June. They had a sign up saying if you needed your passport in a hurry to bring proof of travel - I was chatting to a lady who thought you couldn't renew any earlier than a week before your passport expired which left her with 3 days to renew hers before her holiday. She brought her confirmation email from Aer Lingus and that was fine.


  • #47
    Shinners23
    Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭Shinners23


    Hi All,

    Just a question for people who have a availed of this service. Will it take the 10 days to receive it or could I receive it in 7/8 days?

    Thanks a mil in advance


  • #48
    finbarrk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    It's usually 6-8 days. But I wouldn't chance it if you need it within 10 days.


  • #49
    BuffyBot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Remember, it's peak time of year for them too. I got mine back the other day, so it technically was 9 working days..


  • #50
    Sitec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Sitec


    thanks for all the replies, checked the status the second i came home from work.

    Status:Application received on 17/06/2009 and is being checked. Subject to approval issue by date is 26/06/2009.

    Sounds good:D


  • #51
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Question : How do I know if I have a machine-readable passport?


    Answer :
    A machine-readable passport is a passport with two typeface lines printed at the bottom of the photo page, which can be read by machine.
    The two lines at the bottom of a machine-readable passport, for example, would look like the following:

    LINE 1: P COUNTRY LAST NAME << FIRST NAME < MIDDLE NAME <<<<<
    LINE 2: PASSPORT NUMBER COUNTRY DOB<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Almost all Irish passports delivered from Dublin and Cork since the 1988 have been machine-readable (except for some handwritten passports).


    mrp.gif




    Sources :

    WIKI
    US Embassy



    Question : Do I need a biometric passport for the states?

    Answer :
    No. Your passport just needs to be machine-readable.


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