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Sherlock [** SPOILERS **]

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  • #122
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,028 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Richard Dower wrote: »
    Only three episodes????????....what bullshiit is this?????
    Well.. it'll be 3 x 90 minute episodes. That'll do me.

    That's 4 and a half hours.. most BBC dramas only run for 6 one-hour episodes a season (6 hours).

    And of course taking into account how busy Moffatt is with his commitment to 'Who'.


  • #123
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    3 episodes works for me.

    Having been bombarded the last few years by American TV "events", I'm sick to death of 20-24 episode seasons; too often it's too little story, dragged across too long a season, with too little a pay-off.

    3 feature-length episodes is neat, tidy and can tell a perfectly epic arc if needed :)


  • #124
    Orizio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    10-12 episodes per season is ideal. Regarding BBC and Sherlock though, I think they are best off having 6 one hour episodes, as it stands I thought the three episodes were overlong and at times messy.


  • #125
    Richard Dower
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Just got through watching the unaired pilot, 55 mins....it's basically a condensed version of what was broadcast, the majority of the dialogue is identical in many respects. The whole subplot with Dr. Watson in the phonebox and meeting with Sherlock's brother is gone, also no mention of Moriarity or the fact the cabbie was hired by him.

    The scenes with the police press conference are gone, in this pilot Sherlock works out much earlier it was the cabbie, and the cabbie brings Sherlock back to his own home for the showdown and pills.

    All the actors are the same in both, overall what was broadcast was superior, it was much more stylised, locations were better, characterisation and dialogue fleshed out.

    I can see why it wasn't used, but nice to see a somewhat alternate version.


  • #126
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Just watched the second episode, which was okay (bit clichéd). What was interesting, to me, was when they were rifling through common books and picked up "Transitions" by Iain Banks. Just like it said on screen, the first word on page 19 is indeed cigarette. Nice attention to detail.


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  • #127
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I just watched the final episode... and I believe the casting for Moriarty was one of the worst I've ever seen. Yes it did seem like it was Graham Norton - I felt it was almost a Father Ted moment. Moriarty is aloof, working in the shadows. He's not some screeching, camp twat. Woeful moment - left a bad taste in my mouth for this series. I just hope it's a mis-direction.


  • #128
    Richard Dower
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    http://filmreviewonline.com/2010/10/18/sherlock-mark-gatiss-gets-inspired/


  • #129
    Richard Dower
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    New details on series 2
    Sherlock - New episodes will be based on Arthur Conan Doyle's stories "A Scandal in Bohemia", "The Hound of the Baskervilles" and "The Final Problem."


  • #130
    Basq
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    I still have the last episode Sky+'d on my hard drive to be watched.

    I'm very suprised to hear they'll have time for the second season so soon with Martin Freeman's schedule for 'The Hobbit'.


  • #131
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Richard Dower wrote: »
    New details on series 2
    Sherlock - New episodes will be based on Arthur Conan Doyle's stories "A Scandal in Bohemia", "The Hound of the Baskervilles" and "The Final Problem."
    My favourite ones. Hurrah! :D
    Basq wrote:
    I'm very suprised to hear they'll have time for the second season so soon with Martin Freeman's schedule for 'The Hobbit'.

    They've already been filming them for a while, haven't they?


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  • #132
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Interesting choices, although my first reaction was to groan at the thought of yet another retelling of the Baskervilles-doggy story. It really has been done to death at this stage, and a bit of an obvious & unoriginal choice. But hey, the proof of the pudding 'n all that ...


  • #133
    Mr E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,533 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Basq wrote: »
    I still have the last episode Sky+'d on my hard drive to be watched.

    Ah Brian, that was the best one. One of the best cliffhanger endings of 2010.


  • #134
    Basq
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    humanji wrote: »
    They've already been filming them for a while, haven't they?
    According to this (posted last week), they're rumoured to start filming next month.

    Benedict Cumberbatch had been busy starring in Danny Boyle's Frankenstein play and that's still running til next weekend: http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/tickets/frankenstein-tickets-feature-3609.html
    Mr E wrote: »
    Ah Brian, that was the best one. One of the best cliffhanger endings of 2010.
    Might give it a watch this evening so.


  • #135
    Skerries
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Interesting choices, although my first reaction was to groan at the thought of yet another retelling of the Baskervilles-doggy story. It really has been done to death at this stage, and a bit of an obvious & unoriginal choice. But hey, the proof of the pudding 'n all that ...

    yes but we haven't seen it done in decades so it is totally new to this generation
    anyway a classics a classic
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  • #136
    Richard Dower
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Long article on season 2 with info, plot points etc. - expect spoilers:

    http://www.vadvert.co.uk/entertainment/13194-bbc-ones-bafta-nominated-sherlock-begins-filming-second-series.html


  • #137
    liah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Don't wanna spoil anything for myself so I'm not going to read the article, but when's it meant to be airing? Loved the first three eps.


  • #138
    shanew
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    Series 1 of Sherlock is being rebroadcast... starting tonight on BBC1 @ 20:30



    S.


  • #139
    Hal Emmerich
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    BBC1 at 20.30, it's well worth a watch if you haven't seen it, the first episode anyway, the other two...not so much, set in modern day London.

    Series two must be on the way if they're repeating this now.

    If you like Luther, you'll like this.


  • #140
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Write-up on the new series: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2016767/Sherlock-Benedict-Cumberbatch-rushed-hospital-scenes-new-series.html

    I'm looking forward to it.
    I though all three parts were great in the first series - and I was very sceptical when I heard about this modern re-make first.
    I was won over I'm delighted to say.


  • #141
    dr gonzo
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    Just flicked onto it because im a sherlock holmes fan and had heard good things, ive been completely sucked in, brilliantly done so far.

    Can any give me a run down of what happens up to watson meeting holmes? ive read study in scarlet so im sure its similar but i hate missing the start of shows.


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  • #142
    Biggins
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    dr gonzo wrote: »
    ...Can any give me a run down of what happens up to watson meeting holmes?

    In the TV series? (If memory serves me right)
    You didn't miss must that would effect later story-lines.
    Quick flashback scenes to Watson in army, getting injured in Afganistan (as in the original books as well), medic-vacueated out by chopper, recovery then meets Holmes through a friend who introduces them in a lab.


  • #143
    Richard Dower
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    Delayed until early 2012: http://www.denofgeek.com/television/1003843/sherlock_series_2_pushed_back_to_2012_transmission.html
    Laura Pulver cast in S2: http://www.denofgeek.com/television/1002838/sherlock_series_2_casting_news.html


  • #144
    Basq
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    Delayed until 2012? :(

    Gutted!


  • #145
    red dave
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    Richard Dower wrote: »
    Delayed until early 2012: http://www.denofgeek.com/television/1003843/sherlock_series_2_pushed_back_to_2012_transmission.html
    Laura Pulver cast in S2: http://www.denofgeek.com/television/1002838/sherlock_series_2_casting_news.html

    That's a shame. So it will be 3 episodes in 2012


  • #146
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Really enjoyed this the past few weeks...missed it the first time round cos it seemed a little gimmicky but gave it a chance this round for lack of anything else on at the time. Guy who played Holmes is a great actor (saw him in some dramatisation of Stephen Hawking the other night), not really a fan of Freeman but he was good in this...the guy as Moriarty was a surprise last night: Irish I take it, but not seen him in anything before. Dialogue was witty and fresh, but still managed to stick to the tone of what you'd expect from classic Holmes...also nicely shot and probably looked great in HD...they caught a lot of the London scenery in a very flattering way.
    Anyway bit of a shock ending and then they say there's no follow up until next year? arrgggh


  • #147
    pixelburp
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    Basq wrote: »
    Delayed until 2012? :(

    Gutted!
    Not surprising though? Martin Freeman is going to be involved with The Hobbit for the rest of the year at least I imagine, and it seems Benedict Cumberbatch (man I love saying that name!) is popping up in all sorts of things, bit of a hot prospect atm.


  • #148
    Basq
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    Not surprising though? Martin Freeman is going to be involved with The Hobbit for the rest of the year at least I imagine, and it seems Benedict Cumberbatch (man I love saying that name!) is popping up in all sorts of things, bit of a hot prospect atm.
    It's surprising enough actually.

    They took a few months from filming 'The Hobbit' to allow cast and crew to focus on various things (filming isn't resuming until next month AFAIK). Freeman went to film 'Sherlock' so it'd definitely be in the later stages of filming right now (if it isn't already finished).

    So a late 2011 release was definitely feasible.


  • #149
    MisterAnarchy
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    Richard Dower wrote: »
    ^ i personally think Jim is not Moriarty, but someone Moriarty hired to play him...as in an actor, i also think if this guy is the real Moriarty then it's a huge let down....the characterisation is horrid, he just does not eminate nemesis or a foe capable of defeating Holmes.

    That last episode was going nicely up until the reveal of Moriarty where it jumped the shark.
    The actor playing the part was completely wrong for the part,way too young and his voice,my God did he wander in off some pantomime stage ?
    Very disappointing casting,appalling to say the least.

    Btw Moriarty only appeared in two of the original short stories and Watson never saw his face .
    Season 2 should be good as they are using 3 of the most famous short stories in it culminating with
    The Final Problem.


  • #150
    Richard Dower
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Filming on season 2 has been halted due to the riots: http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/08/sherlock-filming-halted-by-london-riots.html


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  • #151
    Otacon
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    Yet another reason to hate the rioters! Grrr


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