Sherlock [ SPOILERS ]

humanji · 03-08-2010 12:42pm

Just got to watch this. As was said above, it's not a patch on the pilot, but it wasn't that bad. If there were a load of episodes to come, then I probably wouldn't feel disappointed, but because it was the second of three, I feel they could have given it a little more "umph".

speedboatchase · 04-08-2010 12:45pm

Do BBC show any repeats during the week? Would be interested in catching up with this

Basq · 04-08-2010 12:47pm

speedboatchase wrote: »

Do BBC show any repeats during the week? Would be interested in catching up with this

No repeats unfortunately!

Latest episode wasn't great.. but didn't think it was as awful as some people are making out. It was a big drop from the pilot though alright.

Richard Dower · 04-08-2010 9:05pm

I also thought it wasn't too bad, but no way as good as the first episode.

Our man in Havana · 05-08-2010 3:21pm

You might get a signed repeat in a few weeks at some ungodly hour.

05-08-2010 4:05pm

The ending was pretty interesting. Is Moriarty being put forward as an individual or as a group?

LionelNashe · 05-08-2010 10:06pm

I wasn't impressed to see

Watson tied up in a chair like Penelope Pitstop

- not a very Holmesian type of ending

pickarooney · 05-08-2010 10:55pm

I thought this was easily as good as the pilot, although a lot of that could have been down to the pant-creamingly gorgeous Chinese girl.

Basq · 05-08-2010 11:06pm

pickarooney wrote:

pant-creamingly gorgeous Chinese girl.

She was cute alright!

324962.jpg#Gemma+Chan

She has featured in 'Doctor Who' and 'The IT Crowd' recently too! For those who watch 'The IT Crowd', she was

the female Sulu in Reynold's porno last week

and

also the girl who came up to Moss in the club in The Final Countdown episode

.

Am convinced it's her in the 'Bing' ad too where she starts shouting about 'Taxi Driver' and 'clutch bags' etc.

EDIT: This one..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlZsPTWXqts

Richard Dower · 05-08-2010 11:34pm

^ research wh*re!

Basq · 05-08-2010 11:36pm

Richard Dower wrote: »

^ research wh*re!

Ha!

Well.. I couldn't remember her the 'Doctor Who' episode until I looked her up.

But I remember when I saw her in 'The IT Crowd' episode, I was positive it was the same girl from the Bing ad.. but never followed up!

Monotype · 05-08-2010 11:57pm

Bing has got ads?! I didn't know they were that desperate.

Er... and on topic, the last episode was still good enough to make me look forward to the next episode and the next season.

Redisle · 06-08-2010 12:05am

Didn't really like the second episode that much, not a patch on the first anyway. Hopefully the third won't be quite so disappointing.

pickarooney · 06-08-2010 12:08am

basquille wrote: »

Am convinced it's her in the 'Bing' ad too where she starts shouting about 'Taxi Driver' and 'clutch bags' etc.

EDIT: This one..

'Gemma Chan bing advert' brings up that clip alright.

I used google though

Richard Dower · 08-08-2010 10:20pm

Final ep. tonight - thoughts?

laugh · 08-08-2010 10:27pm

Moriarty disappointing story and terrible acting.

Ginny · 08-08-2010 10:28pm

Jim

was a bit obvious....

LionelNashe · 08-08-2010 10:30pm

Sheesh. I thought this was written by the Doctor Who guys, not the Father Ted guys.

mike65 · 08-08-2010 10:34pm

I thought is might have been the Inspector for a while, actually that would have been better.

horgan_p · 08-08-2010 10:41pm

Kidnapping watson was way too obvious.
I actually thought that watson being missing might have been the cliffhanger.
Disappointed that they unveiled moriarty so early on , I had hoped they would get more from the "consulting criminal" thing.
The asassin thing just felt out of place as well.
Overall enjoyed it and as i said 3 weeks ago , glad it isnt going to be a 12 part show with a new ep every week.

I hope they'll take the same tact as RTE ( never thought i'd say that) with single handed. A few episodes here and there with more or less self contained stories.

zimovain · 08-08-2010 10:44pm

I enjoyed it immmensly. Brilliant way to spend a lazy Sunday night.

The Sparrow · 08-08-2010 11:23pm

I did not enjoy the last two episodes at all. The first was good but it's much easier to do a reboot than deliver compelling follow up episodes. It was better than last week, but once again it was terribly dull.

The minute the Irish guy was introduced into the lab I knew it was Moriarty. Why bother even introducing him like that? It doesn't add anything to the story at all and it was so damn obvious that the innocuous new character was going to be the villain. So in between being a criminal mastermind, Moriarty works as a low level IT guy in a hospital and is trying to get stuck into some dumpy pathologist?

Plus an hour and a half is way too long. Parts of it were so slow and I lost count of the number of times they showed Watson and Holmes gazing out the window of a black cab looking pensive for what seemed like an eternity. There was no real chemistry between the two leads after week 1 and as someone who is reading Holmes at the moment (finished The Sign of Four only this afternoon) neither actor made the part their own.

Overall, it turned into the disappointment that I feared even after the promising start.

keefg · 09-08-2010 1:07am

I'm halfway through tonights episode on the BBC iplayer so I won't comment on the content just yet but I will say that all 3 episodes have been beautifully shot & edited.

pixelburp · 09-08-2010 8:50am

So I watched the third episode, and although it was a vast improvement on the second story, it was still lacking in that zip and energy the first contained. Maybe that's just the nature of the beast, the set-up always has to be the hook.

The pay-off about

Moriarty

was hardly worth it though; it was quite a disappointment after what was a fairly intriguing build-up.

I actually didn't realise Jim from IT was Moriarty, in fact I thought it was a genuine attempt by that lab-girl to get Sherlock's attention / get him jealous by showing off her "boyfriend". But when he was revealed at the swimming pool (a nod towards the Reichenbach falls perhaps?), my bigger problem was the terrible over-acting and general chewing of the scenery by the actor. He hardly seemed like a criminal genius, and more of a ranting madman tbh

Overall though, I would be happy to see a full, proper series made of this; the 3 stories seem more of a proof-of-concept than anything else, and if all it tried to experiment was to see if Sherlock Holmes could be transplanted onto the modern world, then I would say mission successful.

LadyW · 09-08-2010 9:50am

Enjoyable episode, but dreadful casting for Moriarty...

mike65 · 09-08-2010 9:59am

I was thinking about that, Moriaritys casting was quite clever. Not some obvious larger-than-life figure in a swishing cloak and rich dark voice but a weedy pale faced Irish fella in a suit that might have not quite fitted properly.

laugh · 09-08-2010 10:07am

mike65 wrote: »

I was thinking about that, Moriaritys casting was quite clever. Not some obvious larger-than-life figure in a swishing cloak and rich dark voice but a weedy pale faced Irish fella in a suit that might have not quite fitted properly.

Moriarty is supposed to a criminal mastermind not a squeaky loon, an adversary worthy of Sherlock Holmes - why did he leave and then just reappear back?

bruce wayne · 09-08-2010 10:08am

I was thinking he was more like a grown up version of Jedward !!

8mv · 09-08-2010 10:17am

I enjoyed this episode much more than the second. There was genuine

threat and tension in the way the hostages were used and the identity of Moriarty came as a surprise to me. True, the actor who played the part (can't find him credited) was way over the top, but maybe that's what the role demands.

I presume we will see further episodes next year. Should be good.

humanji · 09-08-2010 10:26am

I thought it was a good episode, but Moriarty was a diasspointment. I realised who he was when he first apepared. As The Sparrow said, there was no other reason for the character to be there. But I thought he was too young for the role. It just didn't seem right to me.

And when he was unveiled at the pool, before you see him and he calls out to Holmes, did anyone else think it sounded like Graham Norton?

I also would have prefered if they had stuck a little closer to the ending of the series of novels, as it was a better ending. In the book

Moriarty wants to kill Holmes because he keeps solving his crimes.

. I don't know if Moriarty wanting to "play" with Holmes worked in this episode.

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