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Irishtown won't be ready until "Spring 2015"

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  • #52
    KielyUnusual
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    average_runner wrote: »
    Ran by there yesterday, seem to be a few trucks around and some machinery, so maybe they started.

    Oh yes, meant to take a picture and post yesterday. They've restarted and laid down the red stuff most of the way round. Coach wasn't down yesterday evening but must ask him on Thursday and get a projected finish date.


  • #53
    Chivito550
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    There is definitely progression, but I asked the guy at reception abs he said that the official line is the end of August!!


  • #54
    adrian522
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    Probably closer to spring 2016 by the time it gets done!


  • #55
    PaulieC
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    Since Chivito is busy on another thread defending the honour of sprinters, here's photographic documentary evidence of progress:

    17444593248_c74d884439_c.jpg

    17444850320_a8d98168a9_c.jpg

    The track is now almost completely covered in what looks like the last layer before the top layer goes on. In the first pic, on the bottom right corner you can still see the black layer, but on the opposite side of the track, it looks like the final surface has started being laid.


  • #56
    Chivito550
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    PaulieC wrote: »
    Since Chivito is busy on another thread defending the honour of sprinters, here's photographic documentary evidence of progress:

    17444593248_c74d884439_c.jpg

    17444850320_a8d98168a9_c.jpg

    The track is now almost completely covered in what looks like the last layer before the top layer goes on. In the first pic, on the bottom right corner you can still see the black layer, but on the opposite side of the track, it looks like the final surface has started being laid.

    Yeh I momentarily got excited when I saw the progress yesterday, but that disappeared once the guy told me the end of August is the expected time frame it will be open. Do they need to have it unused for a month to set or something?


  • #57
    PaulieC
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Yeh I momentarily got excited when I saw the progress yesterday, but that disappeared once the guy told me the end of August is the expected time frame it will be open. Do they need to have it unused for a month to set or something?

    There are probably a few factors involved in that ETA:
      In the first pic, there is a white substance on the track in the shadowed area ? That looked like an adhesive of some sort and looks like it has not set due to being in shadow. I guess this is what they were talking about when they said they needed to have the weather on their side to get this done and you can see why it was probably impossible to get this done during the winter.
      The remainder of the track has to be laid with its next to last layer.
      Almost the entire track, plus all of the infield areas need to get the final layer
      All areas have to be painted.
      The council are managing the job.

    The last point is probably the most germane :rolleyes:


  • #58
    Murph_D
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    That seems like a lot of recent progress all the same. Hopefully the Aug date is a worst case.


  • #59
    tHE vAGGABOND
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    Picture in crusaders facebook group of an inside lane at long last...

    A couple of months time we will have a track again :)


  • #60
    Chivito550
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    tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »
    Picture in crusaders facebook group of an inside lane at long last...

    A couple of months time we will have a track again :)

    I hope you are joking with the couple of months. Surely it's only a matter of weeks? Nationals are in 7 weeks. A couple of months is much too late. Season will be over then.


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  • #61
    tHE vAGGABOND
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    Quote in thread is two weeks per lane - no idea if that was a p1ss take - but its taken what, 18 months to get this far, so I believe anything now :)


  • #62
    Murph_D
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    The marking is complete. it's pretty much done but everything has to be signed off. G V Ryan meet scheduled for July 11 expected to go ahead.


  • #63
    KielyUnusual
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    Haven't been down the club for a while. Is the track back in use again? One of the lads at the club posted this on the Twitter about the quality of the work. Anybody seen it up close or used it? What do ye think?

    CIN7TD-W8AA7Uc4.jpg


  • #64
    Wottle
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    Heard a rumour that parts of it have to be redone.


  • #65
    KielyUnusual
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    Wottle wrote: »
    Heard a rumour that parts of it have to be redone.

    Just got this e-mail from the Irish Milers Club in the last few minutes

    'We have listed the venue as Irishtown Stadium. The track has recently been relaid and is currently awaiting sign off on the completed work. However if we do not have sign off in time for our meet then we will switch to Morton Stadium. PLEASE keep an eye out for all messages emails/facebook and website announcements.'

    So sounds like there's a bit of red tape / possible remediary work before the track is open to the public again


  • #66
    clear thinking
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    Someone needs to lash in an FOI on the tender. How did Dublin City Councill make such a haimes of this when Fingal were able to do a great job on santry for, if i recall, c. €100k.


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  • #67
    happygoose
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    I'd say you need to add on another zero for the cost of putting a Mondo track into Santry.


  • #68
    average_runner
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    happygoose wrote: »
    I'd say you need to add on another zero for the cost of putting a Mondo track into Santry.

    We are looking at Mondo track, just multiply it by 3 and u be close


  • #69
    clear thinking
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    Ok say it was €300k - €1.0m for mondo, presumably the ****e effort by the nordies will have to be replaced sooner than a good track. Given the debacle to date you'd have to pay for a mondo anyway.


  • #70
    Murph_D
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    Track reopened today. Did a session there. Track a bit scruffy I thought but I'm no expert. Nice to have it back all the same.


  • #71
    KielyUnusual
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    Murph_D wrote: »
    Track reopened today. Did a session there. Track a bit scruffy I thought but I'm no expert. Nice to have it back all the same.

    From what I understand, there is a good few things to fix but they've decided to wait until the start of next summer to avoid a repeat of this whole debacle again. Will definitely be good to have it back. Looking forward to the 3k Time Trial already :D


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  • #72
    Timmaay
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    KielyUnusual wrote: »
    From what I understand, there is a good few things to fix but they've decided to wait until the start of next summer to avoid a repeat of this whole debacle again. Will definitely be good to have it back. Looking forward to the 3k Time Trial already :D

    Considering the IMC was switched from there to santry today, is it consider not fit for competition at the minute?


  • #73
    KielyUnusual
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    Considering the IMC was switched from there to santry today, is it consider not fit for competition at the minute?

    For field events anyway it's definitely not ready. The in field is completely overgrown and I also heard rumours that the long jump boards were layed in the wrong position and will need to be re-done. It's so ridiculous that it's almost funny but it's not funny because it affects me :(


  • #74
    Chivito550
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    KielyUnusual wrote: »
    For field events anyway it's definitely not ready. The in field is completely overgrown and I also heard rumours that the long jump boards were layed in the wrong position and will need to be re-done. It's so ridiculous that it's almost funny but it's not funny because it affects me :(

    And then they wonder why we are sh1te at field events!


  • #75
    Murph_D
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    There's also a notable depression in Lane 1 halfway around the second bend. Wouldn't call it a pothole exactly but it seemed to have been topped up with loose grains of whatever you call that rubber compound bound into the top layer. :(


  • #76
    Chivito550
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    Murph_D wrote: »
    There's also a notable depression in Lane 1 halfway around the second bend. Wouldn't call it a pothole exactly but it seemed to have been topped up with loose grains of whatever you call that rubber compound bound into the top layer. :(

    Pictures?


  • #77
    Chivito550
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    Was anybody at the track the last few days? There's a red cone in lane 7 about 20m from the finish line. Underneath it is a huge rip in the track. Incredible. Say goodbye to any track meets taking place there!


  • #78
    average_runner
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Was anybody at the track the last few days? There's a red cone in lane 7 about 20m from the finish line. Underneath it is a huge rip in the track. Incredible. Say goodbye to any track meets taking place there!


    Who were the contractors for this?


  • #79
    Chivito550
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    average_runner wrote: »
    Who were the contractors for this?

    No idea. Whole thing is like the O'Reilly Builders in that Fawlty Towers episode.


  • #80
    KielyUnusual
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    No idea. Whole thing is like the O'Reilly Builders in that Fawlty Towers episode.

    Oh really?


  • #81
    emerald007
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    little bird mentioned that the new pothole wasn't due to the gang who put in the track. the flood lights had to have bulbs replaced the boys brought in a high lift with extendable arms to make it stable, but they didn't bother putting down a pad to spread the pressure across the track, hence the pothole. but the new light really shows up the hole nicely


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  • #82
    Chivito550
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    emerald007 wrote: »
    little bird mentioned that the new pothole wasn't due to the gang who put in the track. the flood lights had to have bulbs replaced the boys brought in a high lift with extendable arms to make it stable, but they didn't bother putting down a pad to spread the pressure across the track, hence the pothole. but the new light really shows up the hole nicely

    Like something out of Father Ted!


  • #83
    clear thinking
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    I've been trying not to get riled up about stuff on t'internet but I can't. What level of retard drives a lorry onto a track and digs it up. I wonder who in Dublin city council is accountable for this debacle and if they are suing the developer for the delay and the light installer for digging up the track.

    Jokeshop.


  • #84
    dekbhoy
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    absolute disgraceful carry on. anything the city council are involved in seems a joke...... no accountability. cru should consider their options.


  • #85
    Murph_D
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    Which options are you referring to? You mean abandoning the stadium?


  • #86
    Chivito550
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    dekbhoy wrote: »
    absolute disgraceful carry on. anything the city council are involved in seems a joke...... no accountability. cru should consider their options.

    Options? What options?

    Santry? Miles away
    ALSAA? Worst track in the Western World
    Tallaght? Limited access for other clubs
    Donore? 300m, and no access for other clubs
    Greystones? A disaster to get to
    Leixlip? Miles away
    UCD? Dug up 4 years ago

    There's the options right there!


  • #87
    Murph_D
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    AFAIK there's a plan for completing the snag list after the recent resurfacing. Can't provide any details though.


  • #88
    RacoonQueen
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    Are there still plans for a DSD track?


  • #89
    Chivito550
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    RacoonQueen wrote: »
    Are there still plans for a DSD track?

    There are no plans for a DSD track. It's the Marlay track which is the one in the pipeline, and DSD will merely be primary tenants of it, like Crusaders are with Irishtown. I haven't heard of any developments with regards it though. I'll believe it when I see it!


  • #90
    RacoonQueen
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    There are no plans for a DSD track. It's the Marlay track which is the one in the pipeline, and DSD will merely be primary tenants of it, like Crusaders are with Irishtown. I haven't heard of any developments with regards it though. I'll believe it when I see it!

    I was thinking of the info from this thread. Just had a vague memory of there being mention of a track.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86849861

    edit: are there still plans for a track in Marlay btw? Any info on that online? All I can find is the link below which suggests this should have been completed in 2014
    http://www.dlrcoco.ie/parks/marlay/04_marlaymasterplanreport_final.pdf


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  • #91
    tHE vAGGABOND
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    Yea, my old rugby club [Stillorgan] just bought new land for their own pitches, and all the articles say that their land is right beside where DSD have just bought land....


  • #92
    average_runner
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    dekbhoy wrote: »
    absolute disgraceful carry on. anything the city council are involved in seems a joke...... no accountability. cru should consider their options.


    In fairness without the council, there be no tracks in alot of places!!


  • #93
    average_runner
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    How come DSD have no track, I thought they were doing very well as club. Don't they run the mini marathon?


  • #94
    clear thinking
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    average_runner wrote: »
    In fairness without the council, there be no tracks in alot of places!!

    If someone drove a lorry onto a gaa pitch to install lights do you think the council would get away without the gaa club in situ running amok, or if it was a gaa club do you think the lorry would have even got out.


  • #95
    average_runner
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    clear thinking wrote: »
    If someone drove a lorry onto a gaa pitch to install lights do you think the council would get away without the gaa club in situ running amok, or if it was a gaa club do you think the lorry would have even got out.

    How many tracks do you think u would have in Dublin without the council?

    Yes they did something wrong, but we would not be better off without their help.


  • #96
    clear thinking
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    average_runner wrote: »
    How many tracks do you think u would have in Dublin without the council?

    Yes they did something wrong, but we would not be better off without their help.

    The reason we pay tax is to get public services and facilities. The Gaa just got €100m in cork, is it too much to ask for a €100k running track to be done properly? Is it ok to waste taxpayers money on making a haims of things for years?


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  • #97
    ThisRegard
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    clear thinking wrote: »
    If someone drove a lorry onto a gaa pitch to install lights do you think the council would get away without the gaa club in situ running amok, or if it was a gaa club do you think the lorry would have even got out.

    It didn't read that it was a lorry that done the damage, was it not a mobile high lift type of thing or was it an actual full size lorry of the type used to fix street lights?


  • #98
    average_runner
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    clear thinking wrote: »
    The reason we pay tax is to get public services and facilities. The Gaa just got €100m in cork, is it too much to ask for a €100k running track to be done properly? Is it ok to waste taxpayers money on making a haims of things for years?


    It's not to do with the gaa

    Someone said the council should not be involved in these things, but who else will do it?


    And remember the gaa gives a lot more back to the economy in what it generates for businesses etc


  • #99
    clear thinking
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    average_runner wrote: »
    It's not to do with the gaa

    Someone said the council should not be involved in these things, but who else will do it?


    And remember the gaa gives a lot more back to the economy in what it generates for businesses etc

    If they are amateur and don't pay people how do they contribute to the economy? Maybe it's all the under the table payments that the gaa doesn't pay tax on that you are referring to?

    All sports contribute to the economy and if there was no gaa people would be doing another sport instead which would equally well contribute to the economy.

    I know for a fact, having witessed it, that culchies rocking up to croker sit on the kerbs drinking home made tea or cans of harp so they don't have to spend a red cent up in the big schmoke.


  • #100
    average_runner
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    clear thinking wrote: »
    If they are amateur and don't pay people how do they contribute to the economy? Maybe it's all the under the table payments that the gaa doesn't pay tax on that you are referring to?

    All sports contribute to the economy and if there was no gaa people would be doing another sport instead which would equally well contribute to the economy.

    I know for a fact, having witessed it, that culchies rocking up to croker sit on the kerbs drinking home made tea or cans of harp so they don't have to spend a red cent up in the big schmoke.

    Here is how it generates the money :

    1) 80,000 x 2 for all Ireland finals
    2) 40,000 x 4 for Munster hurling matches
    3) pubs, hotels and shops make a fortune on these days, it goes back to the tax man
    4) 3 sell out concerts in croke park, more money in hotels, shops and pubs
    5) Amount of money spent on transport by the fans and teams, goes to the taxman,
    6) All the other senior matches, bringing money into towns etc
    7) Jersey sales
    8) leasing out of the croke park for conventions and Xmas parties


    Everyone takes under the table money, athletics is no different.


    Anyhow ur derailing this thread, as nothing to do with gaa.

    So back to my original question, who else will lookafter the tracks and do the maintenance oif not the council?


  • #101
    chinguetti
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    clear thinking wrote: »
    I know for a fact, having witessed it, that culchies rocking up to croker sit on the kerbs drinking home made tea or cans of harp so they don't have to spend a red cent up in the big schmoke.

    Yep, us culchies do that in Dublin but we also do that in all towns and places throughout the country all year long at many events like the ploughing, local county shows and oh, GAA matches.

    I bet the businesses like shops and pubs, petrol stations, B&Bs, hotels, vendors, parking meters, car parks and lock hards wouldn't miss the culchies who don't spend money one bit if they sold Croke Park and the council built a running track there instead.

    And by the way, I lived near Croke Park for 10 years and never saw an ounce of trouble from my country brothers and sisters.

    :rolleyes:


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