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  • #1352
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Looks like we are trying to keep cobb and baluga which is good. I say **** it go all in this draft on defence. Our offence is good. Get the defence sorted and we good. Its too bad hawk never lived up to his college days


  • #1353
    UnitedIrishman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Looks like we are trying to keep cobb and baluga which is good. I say **** it go all in this draft on defence. Our offence is good. Get the defence sorted and we good. Its too bad hawk never lived up to his college days

    I'd agree with that. Maybe find a backup offensive lineman or TE in late rounds because we're pretty thin in those positions if we suffer any injuries.


  • #1354
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    UnitedIrishman wrote: »
    I'd agree with that. Maybe find a backup offensive lineman or TE in late rounds because we're pretty thin in those positions if we suffer any injuries.

    I was going to mention tight end but i dont think anyone will be any use to of us in later rounds. I wonder if eagles would trade us ertz(obv not going to happen) i would love him in gb


  • #1355
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Clay is likely going to spend the vast majority of time in the middle now, excited to see who partners him and how it works out. A high draft pick needs to go there, and I do like Lattimore too so will be interesting!


  • #1356
    Barney92
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Barney92


    Cobb is back. 40 over 4 years. It means that he, Nelson and Rodgers should be together for quite a while yet.


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  • #1357
    UnitedIrishman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    Cobb and Bulaga resigned. That's the main objectives of our free agency secured anyways. House is gone to the Jags for mental money so that leaves the likes of Guion, Raji, Lattimore and Williams to sort out but I wouldn't be surprised if they go either.


  • #1358
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #1359
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    As a packer fan im really not liking jimmy graham in seattle.


  • #1360
    ScummyMan
    Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    As a packer fan im really not liking jimmy graham in seattle.

    No more Suh in NFC North is nice though


  • #1361
    NotASheeple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭NotASheeple


    UnitedIrishman wrote: »
    Cobb and Bulaga resigned. That's the main objectives of our free agency secured anyways.

    Amen. I would have hated to have lost either of those players.


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  • #1362
    UnitedIrishman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    It's like Tramon Williams has fallen off the face of the earth. Fair enough we might not meet his valuation but I was sure someone would come in for him. We might get away with a handy couple year deal.


  • #1363
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    So what's everyone's thoughts on our best options for the draft.?


  • #1364
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #1365
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Holes at CB, ILB, and DT in a big way. Probably TE too but I expect Rodgers to really improve there. The LB is the first priority.

    Ya ILB and CB really stand out to me too.. It's really a matter of opinion between kendricks mcKinney and Perryman, I keep changing my mind about which player id like us to take but am leaning towards Perryman at the minute


  • #1366
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Letroy Guion pleabargained his way out of a criminal prosecution (and record) by paying a $5000 fine on Tuesday. He's now a free agent.

    Letroy Guion avoids prosecution


  • #1367
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    Hopefully the packers can sign him back now on a cheap 1 year deal now...I keep looking at the roster situation, the lack of depth at LB, our struggle with run defence, and having to play CM away from where he's best rushing the passer and the clearest solution to me..although it's 100 times harder to implement than suggest..would be to change our base defence from a 3-4 to a 4-3 with Mathews and peppers outside barrington or maybe kendricks / Anthony..I no its a big overhaul but I think it's logical (to me anyway ha)..does any1 else see the logic or am I crazy.?


  • #1368
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    I really like Clay inside to be honest. Of course best case scenario is being able to move him around so he can pop up and create havoc all over, and because it plays to his unpredictable style also. But at ILB he offers an absolute tonne in terms of sideline to sideline play, does very well against the run between the tackles (a worry of mine initially, as he isn't the biggest of 3-4 lbs), and generally just makes life extremely difficult for opposing QBs and RBs. His biggest strength isn't his pass rush but his closing speed, and being inside plays to that both in terms of getting to runners and blitzing QBs.


  • #1369
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    Billy86 wrote: »
    I really like Clay inside to be honest. Of course best case scenario is being able to move him around so he can pop up and create havoc all over, and because it plays to his unpredictable style also. But at ILB he offers an absolute tonne in terms of sideline to sideline play, does very well against the run between the tackles (a worry of mine initially, as he isn't the biggest of 3-4 lbs), and generally just makes life extremely difficult for opposing QBs and RBs. His biggest strength isn't his pass rush but his closing speed, and being inside plays to that both in terms of getting to runners and blitzing QBs.

    Oya I completely agree that tying clay down to 1 spot limits his productiveness and he should still be rotated around to keep opponents offences on edge but somthing seriously needs to be done about the run.. We were 23rd I'm run defence last year which just isn't good enough and I'm wondering was some of that down to the formation or do you see a different cause of the problem


  • #1370
    kennyb3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    limerickfc wrote: »
    Hopefully the packers can sign him back now on a cheap 1 year deal now...I keep looking at the roster situation, the lack of depth at LB, our struggle with run defence, and having to play CM away from where he's best rushing the passer and the clearest solution to me..although it's 100 times harder to implement than suggest..would be to change our base defence from a 3-4 to a 4-3 with Mathews and peppers outside barrington or maybe kendricks / Anthony..I no its a big overhaul but I think it's logical (to me anyway ha)..does any1 else see the logic or am I crazy.?

    Nuts really. Perhaps read the articles linked here.

    Basically your 2 * 5 techs aren't going to be quick enough to be 1 gap, upfield shooters. One could possibly play 1 tech but still probably not a good fit. Your NT is also then redundant.

    Do you propose Matthews as a DE or LB'er in that system?

    Also you need LB'ers who are better in coverage for a 4-3 system.

    All in all they are totally different systems with different athletes (body types & movement skills) and also generally different techniques. Though you can play a 2 gap 4-3.

    I'd imagine the Packers will draft an ILB with one of the first 2 picks and then have the option to play Matthews inside or out and move him around.


  • #1371
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    kennyb3 wrote: »
    Nuts really. Perhaps read the articles linked here.

    Basically your 2 * 5 techs aren't going to be quick enough to be 1 gap, upfield shooters. One could possibly play 1 tech but still probably not a good fit. Your NT is also then redundant.

    Do you propose Matthews as a DE or LB'er in that system?

    Also you need LB'ers who are better in coverage for a 4-3 system.

    All in all they are totally different systems with different athletes (body types & movement skills) and also generally different techniques. Though you can play a 2 gap 4-3.

    I'd imagine the Packers will draft an ILB with one of the first 2 picks and then have the option to play Matthews inside or out and move him around.

    The 1st article was a good read cheers, haven't got round too the 2nd but it looks fairly intense..if the did mix in some 4-3?could they not have a 2 gap under front nose tackle beside the DT and 1 gap the rest..sorry now if I'm not making sense it's only recently iv really gotten into the in depth side of things..I'd have Mathews and peppers at olb with a good zone coverage mike like Eric kendricks


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  • #1372
    kennyb3
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    limerickfc wrote: »
    The 1st article was a good read cheers, haven't got round too the 2nd but it looks fairly intense..if the did mix in some 4-3?could they not have a 2 gap under front nose tackle beside the DT and 1 gap the rest..sorry now if I'm not making sense it's only recently iv really gotten into the in depth side of things..I'd have Mathews and peppers at olb with a good zone coverage mike like Eric kendricks

    Peppers has been a DE all his career before moving to OLB in his 3-4. He can only rush the passer. his coverage skills are fairly poor so no way he could play sam or will in a 4-3.

    I think the packers will just draft one of Perryman/Kendricks/McKinney and continue playing 3-4. They can then play Matthews inside or out as they see fit (and depending on injuries which are always a given)


  • #1373
    cosatron
    Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭cosatron


    It's going to be a 3-4 for the foreseeable future and you would hope that Datone jones and nick perry start to show a new level of improvement. I think, judging by mock drafts that we will have the pick of ILB if so I can see TT trading his pick and pick up an ILB early in the second round but you never know draft night is brilliant viewing


  • #1374
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    cosatron wrote: »
    It's going to be a 3-4 for the foreseeable future and you would hope that Datone jones and nick perry start to show a new level of improvement. I think, judging by mock drafts that we will have the pick of ILB if so I can see TT trading his pick and pick up an ILB early in the second round but you never know draft night is brilliant viewing

    Packers dont really trade draft picks imo. Plus we need more than the one lb. I reckon two of our first 4 picks will be in the position


  • #1375
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    all depends if thompson knows if he is gonna get raji and guion on good deals will give us more info - if is gonna sign both the 1st four rounds will be ilb, ilb, cb, cb - or some variance of that!


  • #1376
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    Hope it's kendricks to be honest,,mckinneys has no mobility whatsoever and Perryman is no more than a 2 down player at best..Think TT will take the BPA in the 1st which I doubt will be a linebacker..more than likely a CB (Johnson peters Collins) or a DT (Goldman)


  • #1377
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    Guion met with Seattle yesterday hopefully that's not a sign of things to come


  • #1378
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    McCarthy says Packers will use more shotgun and pistol next season

    jMuKChXCLiNi.gif


  • #1379
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000482448/article/letroy-guion-green-bay-packers-reportedly-reach-deal

    aparently guion back at the pack! Good news - and raji is close to being done too! Smart business all over the place - have a look at brandon spikes now and then concentrate on ILB and CB in the top rounds of the draft!!


  • #1380
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    Things are lookin good for us..only a month to go til the draft now who's every1 got us taking.?


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  • #1381
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Raji has been signed. Just to address ILB and corner in the draft. We're looking good. Hopefully, morale won't be an issue. McCarthy seems like a good coach from that point of view.


  • #1382
    UnitedIrishman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Raji has been signed. Just to address ILB and corner in the draft. We're looking good. Hopefully, morale won't be an issue. McCarthy seems like a good coach from that point of view.

    Yeah looking like DT can go down the list of needs now. ILB, corner and maybe a TE to compete with Rodgers. At least we're not going into the draft with a whole list of issues and instead can add more depth to an already strong side.

    With regards morale I think it'll all be out of the system by now. If anything I think it'll drive a lot of guys on to know how close they were to getting to the Superbowl.
    limerickfc wrote: »
    Things are lookin good for us..only a month to go til the draft now who's every1 got us taking.?

    A lot harder to pick this year. Last year I'm pretty sure we were all hoping Haha would fall to us and he did. If not him, then CJ Mosley was the other option everyone wanted but he was picked four picks previous.


  • #1383
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Itll be interesting if paclers bring back colt lyeria as a camp body. As for draft i honestly expect us to go ilb ilb if possible in first two rounds


  • #1384
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #1385
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    i dont think the value is there at ilb to go round 1 and round 2 - that bein said the value for cbs is not there either! Id consider a trade like the vikings last year to get teddy - as long as the pick was in the top 7 in the second round - i think the ilbs will all still be there - its such a pass rush and wr deep draft


  • #1386
    UnitedIrishman
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    Patww79 wrote: »
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    The need for more guys at ILB becomes greater now - Lattimore signs for the Jets. Disappointing but not unexpected I guess.


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  • #1387
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    I think Weil be forced to take a CB in the 1st..it's looking like theirs gonna be a big run on them and on WR's..Wayne's,peters,Johnson are more than likely gone by 30 so that kinda leaves Jones, Rowe, Collins and Darby or maybe kendricks at ILB


  • #1388
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    Kuhn resigned for Vets Minimum contract - 1 yr - 870k
    Sean Richardson resigned - deal matched from the Raiders - 1yr - 2.55mill

    Im happy with the way ted and mike are working this offseason - they know they dont need to change that much so at least we keep our squad together!


  • #1389
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    nasty_crash wrote: »
    Kuhn resigned for Vets Minimum contract - 1 yr - 870k
    Sean Richardson resigned - deal matched from the Raiders - 1yr - 2.55mill

    Im happy with the way ted and mike are working this offseason - they know they dont need to change that much so at least we keep our squad together!

    as long as we want khun there is never any hope of him leaving


  • #1390
    nasty_crash
    Registered Users Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    il be heartbroken when he calls it a day - or packers release him!


  • #1391
    ScummyMan
    Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    Obligatory KUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNN!!!

    Man's a legend, he'll retire in Green Bay.


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  • #1392
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    forget turkey looks like we'll be tearing apart some bears at thanksgiving


  • #1393
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,914 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I feel a Kevin Keegan quote coming on.


  • #1394
    ScummyMan
    Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    I would have preferred the seahawks in the December snow.


  • #1395
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    give me seadderol nice and early so the team is still pissed over throwing the game to them


  • #1396
    cosatron
    Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭cosatron


    Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »
    I feel a Kevin Keegan quote coming on.

    and to really rub it in, we are returning favre's number that night aswell, so the place will be bananas.


  • #1397
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,914 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    cosatron wrote: »
    and to really rub it in, we are returning favre's number that night aswell, so the place will be bananas.

    Are you sure he's definitely retired this time?


  • #1398
    cosatron
    Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭cosatron


    Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »
    Are you sure he's definitely retired this time?

    Unless chip comes looking for him


  • #1399
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    Only a week to go now..how have ye got the draft goin for us


  • #1400
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    limerickfc wrote: »
    Only a week to go now..how have ye got the draft goin for us

    very defensive with a te maybe round 4/5


  • #1401
    limerickfc
    Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭limerickfc


    Any particular prospects in mind.?


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