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Dunnes Stores banning Animal charities...

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    #62
    Waking-Dreams
    Closed Accounts Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Waking-Dreams


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    I find nothing more uncomfortable than having to tell someone I dont want them to pack my bag/box, because it is verbally embarrassing them and myself by saying "I will not be giving you money".

    I can only speak from my own experience but I have been refused by people at grocery stores and there’s nothing embarrassing about it from my perspective. They may feel bad about it but that’s more to do with themselves and their own view of how “good” a person they are or whatever. Turning down a bag-packer does not make you less charitable. We are overloaded with different charities after all.


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    #63
    HighburyH
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭HighburyH


    I've bag packed for a local animal charity on several occasions. IF you don't want to contribute just say you'll pack yourself. Animal charities are collecting to pay vets' bills, transport costs, food etc for the animals that are thrown away, beaten, tortured, starved, burned, lacerated from ropes around their throats, paws rotting from filthy conditions etc etc., every day. These are difficult times but dogs don't get dole! And by the way - Dunnes - we REGULARLY collect animals from YOUR CAR PARK where they are dumped by the selfish and spiteful fools that buy them! :(


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    #64
    debabyjesus
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭debabyjesus


    HighburyH wrote: »
    transport costs

    In brand new vehicles?

    Get a grip will you, nobody here is avoiding chuggers or bagpackers because they want to see pain and suffering in animals and humans continue. People want to do it on their own terms and not be forced to interact with often arrogant and harassing collectors.


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    #65
    daveyeh
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭daveyeh


    repsol wrote: »
    What a bunch of miserable tightarses! Most bag packers I have seen are young kids.Regardless of age they are giving their time up for a good cause.You or someone you love may have Cancer or whatever they are collecting for some day.Throwing a few quid into their bucket is hardly going to break the bank.If you don't want them to pack,do it yourself and give them something anyway.

    Being a young kid is no excuse for squashing 80% of my food. They're mostly spoilt little ****s who don't want to be there anyway. They couldn't give a ****e if you gave 10 cent or 10 euro coz it's not for them.


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    #66
    [Deleted User]
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    Just a reminder, folks. This thread has been moved to Humanities and, as such, is governed by a different charter and set of rules than it was in Consumer Issues. If you can't argue calmly, clearly and without the use of profanities and patently bathetic pleas, then please reconsider your engagement with this thread. As it says in the very first sentence of the charter, "Humanities exists for the purpose of having rational, thoughtful, calm, civil debate about social and cultural issues." Emphasis on calm and civil debate, in particular; profanities and maudlin pleas to emotion, which are not conducive to rational debate, run counter to the spirit of Humanities. If you've any queries please drop me a PM. Thanks.


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    #67
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    I can only assume it is in response to customer complaints.

    Some collectors can be very pushy and annoying, I've reported a few to Dunnes myself in the past.


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    #68
    repsol
    Registered Users Posts: 754 ✭✭✭repsol


    daveyeh wrote: »
    Being a young kid is no excuse for squashing 80% of my food. They're mostly spoilt little ****s who don't want to be there anyway. They couldn't give a ****e if you gave 10 cent or 10 euro coz it's not for them.

    Well constructed point. Glad to see you didn't generalize or judge anyone.If they don't care and as you say ,they are not getting the money,why are they standing there?


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    #69
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    repsol wrote: »
    Well constructed point. Glad to see you didn't generalize or judge anyone.If they don't care and as you say ,they are not getting the money,why are they standing there?

    Mostly my own experience too, in fact most of my complaints to the management were about bag packing.


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    #70
    repsol
    Registered Users Posts: 754 ✭✭✭repsol


    gbee wrote: »
    Mostly my own experience too, in fact most of my complaints to the management were about bag packing.

    "most of your complaints to the management"! Out of how many? Are you a serial complainer? Bet they love seeing you coming into the shop.The staff probably have a nickname for you.


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    #71
    daveyeh
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭daveyeh


    repsol wrote: »
    Well constructed point. Glad to see you didn't generalize or judge anyone.If they don't care and as you say ,they are not getting the money,why are they standing there?

    Because their ma told them they have to or they'll be put through a wall.

    Hows that for construction?


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    #72
    daveyeh
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭daveyeh


    repsol wrote: »
    "most of your complaints to the management"! Out of how many? Are you a serial complainer? Bet they love seeing you coming into the shop.The staff probably have a nickname for you.

    Maybe if they dance on your bread next time you'll understand people complaining. :pac:


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    #73
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    repsol wrote: »
    The staff probably have a nickname for you.

    TBH, I stopped shopping in Dunnes and switched to TESCO who had two policies, a no collection day and a limited number of packers so one could choose.


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    #74
    repsol
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    daveyeh wrote: »
    Because their ma told them they have to or they'll be put through a wall.

    Hows that for construction?
    daveyeh wrote: »
    Maybe if they dance on your bread next time you'll understand people complaining. :pac:

    You obviously were dragged up in a violent home. I don't think parents who use or threaten violence on their kids bother collecting for charity.The kids who collect would be from decent homes.You may have heard of those ,even if you have not experienced one.


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    #75
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    repsol wrote: »
    ,even if you have not experienced one.

    Generalities again, we can only tell our own stories. The niceness of the children or their parents matters nought if they are throwing the bleach on top of the fresh meat ~ and squashing the bread ~ and anyway, seems like I'm not the only one to have complained.


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    #76
    123 LC
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    considering they sell horse meat maybe they don't really care about animals :/


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    #77
    daveyeh
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭daveyeh


    repsol wrote: »
    You obviously were dragged up in a violent home. I don't think parents who use or threaten violence on their kids bother collecting for charity.The kids who collect would be from decent homes.You may have heard of those ,even if you have not experienced one.

    How dare you. You horrible little ***.






    (*** = man)






    WTF! Yellow card. Outrageous. If I had been dragged up in a more violent home I would smash this kip up.


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    #78
    [Deleted User]
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    Mod

    Please refrain from making personal comments about other members; this includes stipulating about another's personal life and the use of profanities towards another member. The next person to post a personal remark about or towards another will receive an infraction or ban. If the quality of discussion in this thread doesn't become substantially higher within the next few posts I will have no hesitation in closing the thread. Final warning.


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    #79
    daveyeh
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭daveyeh


    gvn wrote: »
    Mod

    Please refrain from making personal comments about other members; this includes stipulating about another's personal life and the use of profanities towards another member. The next person to post a personal remark about or towards another will receive an infraction or ban. If the quality of discussion in this thread doesn't become substantially higher within the next few posts I will have no hesitation in closing the thread. Final warning.

    Its unlikely this thread can recover after the horrible abuse i've been subjected to. Close it sir. Close it. :(


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    #80
    carpejugulum
    Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭carpejugulum


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Buy a line for €3 and at least €1 goes immediately to the seller and more then goes to suoervisors and orgnisors at local and regional and national levels, at the end of it all about 10% goes to helping the people who are being used to advertise these charity businesses
    Either provide evidence to disprove what I posted or take your lies back.


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    #81
    repsol
    Registered Users Posts: 754 ✭✭✭repsol


    daveyeh wrote: »
    Its unlikely this thread can recover after the horrible abuse i've been subjected to. Close it sir. Close it. :(

    No need to close a perfectly legitimate discussion.There is an "unfollow" button for those who do not wish to take part.


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    #82
    daveyeh
    Registered Users Posts: 774 ✭✭✭daveyeh


    repsol wrote: »
    No need to close a perfectly legitimate discussion.There is an "unfollow" button for those who do not wish to take part.

    Shush.


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    #83
    richardjjd
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭richardjjd


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Its not just animal charities, Concern were mentioned in the banned list and another non animal charity.

    Hi. I work for Concern and this is not true: we're trying to track down how the rumour started that we were banned. Our volunteers held collections in some of the Dunnes outlets before Christmas without any issue.


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    #84
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Twoandahalfmen wrote: »
    A dog or cat won't dump you. Abuse you, rob you, deceive you. All they want is food love and shelter. Easy life
    Ever see what a cat will do if its owner dies and its left all alone with them? You don't get many of those cat videos posted on YouTube...
    Twoandahalfmen wrote: »
    Eh no 17
    I just realise the lack of support for animal charities like alot of these uneducated muppets.
    Unindoctrinated is the word you're looking for, not uneducated, which judging by the lack of grammatical sense of your post is wonderfully ironic.

    Come back and call us uneducated when you have a masters degree.
    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Are shoppers so brain-dead from the ordeal of shopping that they are incapable of telling these many bag-packers they are not required?
    Most people are too passive or 'polite' to do so, while bag-packers, chuggers, or whomever are significantly more aggressive. It's how the scam works.

    And I call it a scam, because it works using the same principles as many confidence tricks; exploiting human psychology in certain social situations, whereby they feel too uncomfortable to say no and too embarrassed not to give something.

    And most people don't have the confidence to assert themselves; especially if taken by surprise.

    Indeed, ask yourselves, why are bag-packers, chuggers, windscreen washers (that one may find at traffic lights), bathroom attendants (who'll practically lunge at you with a bottle of aftershave) carrying out these actions in the first place? It's to socially engineer a scenario whereby people are embarrassed, guilted or otherwise manipulated into giving money.

    Hardly charitable behaviour - if anything it is a very efficient, cynical and ruthless strategy to maximize revenue.

    As for this obsession with animal charities; it has regrettably become a hallmark of Western society that we spend more on our pets than we do on our children.


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    #85
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I'd never give money to overseas charity or animal charitys either; fair play to dunnes it is wise decision and you'd usually see the bagging for local charity or maybe the local GAA or Soccer clubs trying to raise a few euro too. All good causes, funding overseas corrupt governments and paying massive wages of charity ceos are not where I'd want any money I'd donate to go. Charity begins at home and not at the dog kennel or 3rd world either.


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    #86
    2rkehij30qtza5
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    debabyjesus wrote: »
    Aren't people sick of being chugged though? In the street, at your door and in the shops. There is only so many times you can avoid the stares of bagpackers until you decide to shop somewhere else.
    .

    I agree. I do give money to charity throughout the year but I really don't like bagpackers at tils. It's like €1 extra per shop every time I go shopping because they are standing there waiting to pack bags.
    I basically feel like I have to give them something or it just looks very mean on my part. It's not that I begrudge them the €1 each time but funds are tight and if you are popping into Dunnes 4 or 5 times a week to stock up on the necessities (bread milk etc) then you are looking at a few quid extra a week being given to the charities doing the bagpacking. I always try to go to a till that doesn't have a bag packer on it but oftentimes there is no till available. :(


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    #87
    Fromthetrees
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    I don't give to charity but if I did I would give to people first. :)

    Seriously, it's outrageous that charity bag packers are allowed in supermarkets at all. They are in the one place I have to go to in the supermarket, the checkout. I always say no thanks I'm fine to them but it doesn't stop them from staring at me for the next couple of minutes while I bag my messages, I don't like this.

    Did the op mention he'll start shopping in Supervalu now as they are Irish owned, totally irrelevant, all supermarkets in Ireland pay tax here, employ people here and more importantly I think Aldi had the highest percentage of Irish produced products on sale out of all the supermarkets.


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    #88
    payno
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭payno


    not shopping there now anymore, this is shameful


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    #89
    mcballer
    Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭mcballer


    My biggest problem is that most of the bag packers in my local tesco aren't charities at all! They are dance or sports clubs looking for cash! That a charity does not make...!Really gets my goat...much more worthy causes that could do with the cash over the luxury of extra activities for kids!! Think the supermarkets should ban it totally or confine to charities that help the more misfortunate ...


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    #90
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    mcballer wrote: »
    My biggest problem is that most of the bag packers in my local tesco aren't charities at all! They are dance or sports clubs looking for cash! That a charity does not make...!Really gets my goat...much more worthy causes that could do with the cash over the luxury of extra activities for kids!! Think the supermarkets should ban it totally or confine to charities that help the more misfortunate ...

    Yeah, I agree. I'd rather help a case of animal cruelty than fund an optional trip for a club.


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    #91
    Sleepy
    Registered Users Posts: 24,158 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Have to admit, the ones that get on my wick in the local Tesco are the local "dance schools" that sexualise their 6 year olds, dressing them like porn starlets in full make-up. Stomach churning stuff and the faces on the howiya mothers involved when you tell them you'll pack your own bags could sour cream.

    Would much rather support someone like Paws than these "local charities".


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