Recommend a weissbier

slowharry · 28-09-2014 11:26am

Two Irish options worth a try are White Gypsy Blonde from tipp and Wicklow brewery's Weiss

a_non_a_mouse · 01-10-2014 5:17pm

"Two Irish options worth a try are White Gypsy Blonde from tipp and Wicklow brewery's Weiss"

This available in bottles or just on tap ?

Also, anyone tried these
http://www.sierranevada.com/beer/year-round/kellerweis

http://widmerbrothers.com/beer/#hefeweizen

planning on sampling them soon, just wondering if they worth it.
as at 2.50-2.90 for 330ml puts them on par with some of the better German stuff....so wondering should I just stick with the real deal..

BeerNut · 01-10-2014 7:12pm

a_non_a_mouse wrote: »

This available in bottles or just on tap ?

Both are draught only.

I don't really get the point of the American weissbiers when you're not in America. Both of those are fine, but the quality German stuff is better, in terms of bottle size if nothing else. But by all means try them. Drink all the beer.

lk67 · 01-10-2014 8:19pm

a_non_a_mouse wrote: »

"Two Irish options worth a try are White Gypsy Blonde from tipp and Wicklow brewery's Weiss"

This available in bottles or just on tap ?

Also, anyone tried these

sierra nevada kellerweis

widmer brothers hefeweizen

planning on sampling them soon, just wondering if they worth it.
as at 2.50-2.90 for 330ml puts them on par with some of the better German stuff....so wondering should I just stick with the real deal..

I liked both of them. They were Americanised versions of a wheat beer and nice in their own right without being exceptional. Perhaps they should be their own style and not compared to German ones, even with those names...

Some find German wheat beers to filling or tough going, so maybe they're a good intro to the general style too.

Also, Rascals Witt Woo is another interesting Irish wheat that I liked. Not German style I know!

a_non_a_mouse · 01-10-2014 10:10pm

lk67 wrote: »

Also, Rascals Witt Woo is another interesting Irish wheat that I liked. Not German style I know!

So much good beer so little time.... :-(

munchkin_utd · 02-10-2014 9:24am

lk67 wrote: »

I liked both of them. They were Americanised versions of a wheat beer and nice in their own right without being exceptional. Perhaps they should be their own style and not compared to German ones, even with those names...

Some find German wheat beers to filling or tough going, so maybe they're a good intro to the general style too.

If you want a "non filling" weissbier then stick to erdinger

that said, even with Franziskaner I sometimes wonder if its a little more fizzy and lighter flavour when its really fresh and whether the flavour develops somewhat over time.

I suppose it'd be a good subject of a head to head test sometime!

DLMA23 · 02-10-2014 12:20pm

Sierra Nevada Kellerweis Hefeweizen

marco_polo · 04-10-2014 9:17pm

Had some of that Schöfferhofer from Aldi yesterday, not in the same league as some of the "best in breed" for the style but a pretty plesant drink for 1.79 a bottle and more charachter that Erdinger imo.

Ryath · 05-10-2014 8:18pm

munchkin_utd wrote: »

from whats available in Ireland,
- Schneider Weiss Orginal (more tending to dunkel that regular) - http://www.drinkstore.ie/Schneider-Weisse-Tap-7-Unser-Original-500ML-4003669016203/
- Schneider Weiss Blonde (their version of "regular" weissbier) http://www.drinkstore.ie/Schneider-Weisse-Tap-1-Meine-Blonde-Weisse-500ML-4003669016807/
- Frankziskaner - (not as good as Schneider, but still more than acceptable and on a deal is great money spent) http://www.drinkstore.ie/FRANZISKANER-HEFE-500ML-4072700003649/
- Paulaner Weissbier - (a nicely balanced weissbier) http://www.drinkstore.ie/PAULANER-HEFE-WEIS-500ML-4066600611981/

Actually, to be honest most weissbiers that you'd get are grand, aside from Erdinger, but even they have recognised that and have an "Urweisse" version that actually tastes of something.

BTW, in case anyone thinks I have something irrational against Erdinger, I dont. Aparantly they are the soundest crowd ever to work for and really look after their staff, its still family ran and they can be thanked for making weissbier popular across germany.
But their success is entirely based on brewing a watered down version of weissbier that was deliberately created to appeal to non weissbier drinkers, and that has to be pointed out (so for folks used to watery lager may be a positive thing)

Schneider Weiss tap 7 got a bottle as part of tesco's 4 for €8 deal a few days ago. Just picked it up as an option to get something different. Really liked it would have drank a lot of erdinger when it first came on the Irish market but this is so much nicer. Will be stocking up on a few bottles.

They had the Erdinger Urweisse as part of the deal didn't know how it was different from their usual weiss. Will try a bottle.

munchkin_utd · 06-10-2014 9:46am

Ryath wrote: »

<snip>
They had the Erdinger Urweisse as part of the deal didn't know how it was different from their usual weiss. Will try a bottle.

it's good.

"normal" erdinger is a watery brew originally designed to appeal to pils drinkers in north germany. Its deliberately brewed to be bland, or at least way blander than weissbier otherwise would be.

The "Urweisse" though means "original weisse"(bier) so the proper stuff that isnt brewed according to their regular watered down recipe.

baron von something · 07-10-2014 1:33pm

wait till Brewdogs IPW comes out.they teamed up with Weihenstephan and are gonna dry hop the shiz out of a weiss

BeerNut · 07-10-2014 1:43pm

That's like so seven years ago.

adocholiday · 07-10-2014 2:11pm

BeerNut wrote: »

That's like so seven years ago.

baron von something · 07-10-2014 2:18pm

adocholiday wrote: »

+1 to that.sounds delish

BeerNut · 07-10-2014 2:24pm

The recipe was subsequently made permanent by Schneider. You can buy it now as Tap 5: Meine Hopfen-Weisse. And yes, it's amazing.

lk67 · 07-10-2014 3:06pm

Was on tap in Porterhouse Central a few months ago. Not still there is it? Or anywhere else?

limnam · 09-10-2014 1:37pm

If you like dunkel Weistephaner dunkel is probably the best dunkel you can find in Ireland

imvho

Ryath · 09-10-2014 1:54pm

limnam wrote: »

If you like dunkel Weistephaner dunkel is probably the best dunkel you can find in Ireland

imvho

Quite like dunkels haven't noticed it any where. Would O'briens have it?

Picked up another few bottles of Schneider Weiss tap 7 today and a bottle of Erdinger Urweisse to try.

a_non_a_mouse · 09-10-2014 2:03pm

limnam wrote: »

If you like dunkel Weistephaner dunkel is probably the best dunkel you can find in Ireland

agree, its very tasty ...
I think their Vitus (7.7%) is probably one of the nicest beer I've ever had ..not that I'd call myself an expert or anything.

Vitus is technically a Weizenbock
Description:

A more powerful Dunkel Weizen (of "bock strength"), with a pronounced estery alcohol character, perhaps some spiciness from this, and bolder and more complex malt characters of dark fruits.

xxyyzz · 09-10-2014 4:26pm

BeerNut wrote: »

That's like so seven years ago.

Tap 5 was a game changer. A majestic beer although at 8% a bottle of it had me on my ear.

BeerNut · 09-10-2014 5:02pm

xxyyzz wrote: »

Tap 5 was a game changer. A majestic beer although at 8% a bottle of it had me on my ear.

If a glass and a half of wine is enough to put you on your ear you might want to see a doctor

mackerski · 09-10-2014 5:15pm

I'll add two more recommendations. You'll be lucky to find either in Ireland, but grab them if you do:

Unertl (they used to carry this in the Bull and Castle, Dublin)
Grünbacher

xxyyzz · 09-10-2014 5:28pm

BeerNut wrote: »

If a glass and a half of wine is enough to put you on your ear you might want to see a doctor

Couldn't tell ya, I wouldn't touch the stuff.:P

irish_goat · 10-10-2014 9:41am

mackerski wrote: »

Unertl (they used to carry this in the Bull and Castle, Dublin)

I think they stopped doing (on my advice). :P

mackerski · 10-10-2014 9:56am

irish_goat wrote: »

I think they stopped doing (on my advice). :P

They definitely stopped. And if I ever do find the fecker...

irish_goat · 10-10-2014 2:07pm

mackerski wrote: »

They definitely stopped. And if I ever do find the fecker...

To be fair, it didn't sell well and I never liked it so never recommended it, especially since it was sitting beside Schneider and Weihenstephaner. At the end I think we had to turf a few bottles that were past their best before too.

drumswan · 10-10-2014 2:14pm

Saw Unertl on the shelf in drinkstore this afternoon.

They also have Sierra Nevada Snow Wit White IPA

mackerski · 10-10-2014 3:05pm

drumswan wrote: »

Saw Unertl on the shelf in drinkstore this afternoon.

They also have Sierra Nevada Snow Wit White IPA

Where? I want some!

Edit: never mind, found it on the web site

mackerski · 10-10-2014 3:06pm

irish_goat wrote: »

To be fair, it didn't sell well and I never liked it so never recommended it, especially since it was sitting beside Schneider and Weihenstephaner. At the end I think we had to turf a few bottles that were past their best before too.

Nothing wrong with either of those, but for my taste, Unertl is far nicer. A pity.

munchkin_utd · 11-10-2014 12:43pm

mackerski wrote: »

Nothing wrong with either of those, but for my taste, Unertl is far nicer. A pity.

Mmmmmm,
Might give it a whirl then so, when I pick up my crate of franziskaner (for a sinful €10.50 for 20 bottles on special this week)

My problem with weissbier is the sameness of it, which is why regular Schneider is good as it's a strange halfway between dunkel and normal weissbier, so if unertl is loved and hated in equal measures, at least it must be a little different than the rest.

munchkin_utd · 11-10-2014 5:27pm

mackerski wrote: »

I'll add two more recommendations. You'll be lucky to find either in Ireland, but grab them if you do:

Unertl (they used to carry this in the Bull and Castle, Dublin)
Grünbacher

Will report back on grünbacher later as I picked up 2 bottles when out shoppng.

Promisingly, they only brew weissbier and are in the third generation of family ownership so you'd think you can trust them to make a decent beer.

mackerski · 11-10-2014 8:36pm

munchkin_utd wrote: »

Will report back on grünbacher later as I picked up 2 bottles when out shoppng.

Promisingly, they only brew weissbier and are in the third generation of family ownership so you'd think you can trust them to make a decent beer.

You can tell that Christmas is coming. Where did you get the Grünbacher? It's ages since I had any.

munchkin_utd · 13-10-2014 9:20am

mackerski wrote: »

You can tell that Christmas is coming. Where did you get the Grünbacher? It's ages since I had any.

got the Grünbacher at V-Markt in north Munich

Actually got 2 types, the Braumeister and Ur-Weisse, but thanks to the lure of the pub on Saturday night, only got round to tasting them last night
Had the Ur-Weisse first and didn't like it. It had a strange sour tang off it. Colour was also strange, more cloudy cream coloured than the orangey/ browny colour you'd normally see. Probably would be a good one for folks who like belgian style Witbier.

The Braumeister was savage though. It'd remind you a little of a regular Schneider as its a shade darker and more flavoursome than regular weissbier but its still not a proper Dunkel. I have to say I'm now a fan. It was fruity and full of flavour without still being too sweet (which some weissbiers tend to be)
I could easily see me buying it by the crate, once the reserve of 2 1/2 crates of weissbier in the basement get depleted!

limnam · 13-10-2014 10:54am

Ryath wrote: »

Quite like dunkels haven't noticed it any where. Would O'briens have it?
.

Not sure if O'Briens stock it.

In Dublin you could get it in Redmonds or drink store and probably most "decent" offie's

mackerski · 13-10-2014 12:45pm

munchkin_utd wrote: »

got the Grünbacher at V-Markt in north Munich

Bah! You had my hopes up there. Unfortunately I no longer live in MUC. Never had any trouble getting the stuff there.

munchkin_utd · 22-10-2014 8:59am

I know we recommended Schneider before, but after having the first bottle in a while there last night of the Schneider Blonde, I'll just re-recommend it.

Theres so much depth of flavour going on there that it'd almost remind you of the belgian beers, and it's a step up from the likes of Fransiskaner (which is still more than acceptable), and a different universe than Erdinger or the own brand Lidl/Aldi schlop (which are brewed to be bland/ cheap respectively).

a_non_a_mouse · 27-10-2014 10:22pm

Had White Gypsy Blonde on tap over the weekend and while its lower than most wheat beers at just 4% the taste doesn't suffer and I would have it again no problem.
Also had a few bottles of the Trouble Brewing Fuzzy Logic Wheat Beer (4.7%) recently..very drinkable. only thing is the price point puts its up against some of the best german examples and not sure its quite at the level..buts its defo better than some. Would be interested in trying it on tap.

munchkin_utd · 29-10-2014 10:53pm

mackerski wrote: »

Nothing wrong with either of those, but for my taste, Unertl is far nicer. A pity.

Picked up an unertl.
Yea, it's full of flavour but it's not my thing. It tastes nice (and smells wonderful) but for my palette just gives a less than lovely aftertaste. Like Schneider, their regular weissbier is a more dark affair than "regular" weissbier.

But again, it'd be the type of beer which you could imagine being a savage bock weissbeer if brewed that way.

a_non_a_mouse · 10-11-2014 11:47am

Had me a couple of bottles of Rothaus Hefeweiss over the weekend.
First time having it....man, I was impressed. For me its nicer than Franziskaner, so that puts it second behind Weihenstephaner in my top list..

had Maisels Weiss & Schneider Blonde also recently, not hugely impressed with either...
..revisited Schneider Original after being disappointed the first time, I was pleasantly surprised and think there was something wrong with the bottle or the glass the first time....very nice weiss beer indeed
..lots more to try

hfallada · 11-11-2014 10:15pm

Andechs Weissbier is really good. Apparently Martins off license sell it sometimes. Its a monastery just outside Munich. If you are in Munich, its at the end of an S-Bahn line so you can take public transport right up to it. Its really pretty and the biergarten is a terrace. So you are looking at the Bavarian countryside. Then you can go swimming at the lake beside the S-Bahn and the alps are in the background

drumswan · 11-11-2014 10:20pm

The Brewdog/Weihenstephaner collab 'India Pale Weizen' is worth drinking, has those nice sweet banana candy notes I like

munchkin_utd · 11-11-2014 11:48pm

hfallada wrote: »

Andechs Weissbier is really good. Apparently Martins off license sell it sometimes. Its a monastery just outside Munich. If you are in Munich, its at the end of an S-Bahn line so you can take public transport right up to it. Its really pretty and the biergarten is a terrace. So you are looking at the Bavarian countryside. Then you can go swimming at the lake beside the S-Bahn and the alps are in the background

Andechs is a great story. It's still ran by the monks and the cash from the beer sales is then used to benefit the poor and homeless in munich city. Their church st bonifatz is one of the few places to catch English language mass in munich, and that's their base in the city for all their good works.
And despite the Catholic Church in Bavaria having an income of billions in church tax every year, on principle the andechs monks want to earn the cash rather than take the handout.
If only the rest of the church was as enterprising.

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