wireless calving cameras

Duffmanic · 06-11-2010 8:04pm #1

does anyone here know of any good quality wireless calving cameras on the market, the range needs to be about 50-100m, with a picture in colour.

bbam · 06-11-2010 8:31pm

Hi if you're anyway handy and willing to bodge things yourself this is what we did...

Onto E-bay and bought a transmitter/receiver set, they can be bought from UK suppliers but we bought direct from China and the goods came no bother...
Similar to this set..
http://cgi.ebay.ie/2-4GHz-Wireless-2W-Audio-Video-Transmitter-Receiver-uk-/280584634299?pt=UK_CCTV&hash=item415425bfbb

For the camera we used an old camcorder that was lying round, superior colour picture and sound, the AV connections match the transmitter perfectly.
Like this..
http://cgi.ebay.ie/Samsung-VP-M50-camcorder-/270657197984?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_Video_Camcorders&hash=item3f046d17a0

Fitted the transmitter inside a shed, drilled a hole and let the ariel poke out, sealed round..
The receiver can either be in my bedroom window for night time viewing or in the living room for the day viewing.. direct AV connection to the TV.

Spent about 2 hours knocking it together and it is good and cheap.. Stuff shown above for about €80
We're transmitting over about 200m direct line of sight...

sheafield · 07-11-2010 11:22pm

company in cork sells hawk cameras. Think Equicom is name but you should find if you google. Bought 200m range colour camera and we put it up ourselves. worked brilliant all last year and has black and white night vision. about 160 euro i think which was very cheap compared to installers asking for 500 and more!!:eek:

Tora Bora · 07-11-2010 11:42pm

I reckon anybody putting in cameras now, should consider UP cameras. You could look at your shed from anywhere at any time. From computer,laptop, or smart phone. Very handy if you are working off farm.

bbam · 08-11-2010 12:08am

Tora Bora wrote: »

I reckon anybody putting in cameras now, should consider UP cameras. You could look at your shed from anywhere at any time. From computer,laptop, or smart phone. Very handy if you are working off farm.

I'd reckon that is the future OK, but with no real broadband distribution it's a bit off for lots of us.. All we have here is the three mobile set up giving us "mid-band" connection at poor speeds.. from a broadband perspective lots of rural Ireland is in the dark ages and I don't see any changes in the near future:(

ceannfort · 08-11-2010 12:28pm

definetly the way to go. installed CCTV sytem without broadband accessible cameras (for the want of knowing) as broadband was unavailable at the time. i now have broadban and regret it and am struggling to get anyone to clearly explain how i upgrade from my wired system to an internet accessible version.

gib1506 · 08-11-2010 2:47pm

Most of the CCTV systems that have a harddisk recorder and an ethernet port on the back can be viewed remotely,Obviously not one that just connects to the TV.I have two IP camers in the shed that I can view on a laptop at home or I can view over the internet .One of the camea's is PAN/Tilt so I can move it arounf (handy when watching a cow calving).

the_one_&_only · 09-11-2010 11:41am

Yeh my uncle is looking for me to setup calving camera's for him.

So i'm looking for some advice from you all.

Tora Bora wrote: »

I reckon anybody putting in cameras now, should consider UP cameras. You could look at your shed from anywhere at any time. From computer,laptop, or smart phone. Very handy if you are working off farm.

Where do you get these types of camera as these would be the best type for him to be able to monitor calving from any location on his phone

gib1506 wrote: »

Most of the CCTV systems that have a harddisk recorder and an ethernet port on the back can be viewed remotely,Obviously not one that just connects to the TV.I have two IP camers in the shed that I can view on a laptop at home or I can view over the internet .One of the camea's is PAN/Tilt so I can move it arounf (handy when watching a cow calving).

Did you put in this setup yourself??

offalygirl08 · 12-11-2010 5:05pm

Hi, I am not sure where you are based but there is a company in Offaly www.logicom.ie that actually provide these cameras and you can check them on the internet or on your iphone etc. Just looked at their site they service the whole of Ireland.

dar31 · 12-11-2010 9:28pm

offalygirl08 wrote: »

Hi, I am not sure where you are based but there is a company in Offaly www.logicom.ie that actually provide these cameras and you can check them on the internet or on your iphone etc. Just looked at their site they service the whole of Ireland.

their New Zoom Rotating camera is just the baby im looking for.

reilig · 13-11-2010 12:49pm

dar31 wrote: »

their New Zoom Rotating camera is just the baby im looking for.

Will you let us know when you get a price for it??

dar31 · 13-11-2010 3:17pm

reilig wrote: »

Will you let us know when you get a price for it??

contacted him throug his site last night. had a phone call at 08:10 this morning. nothing like a prompt service.
he will get back to me during the week with a price.

the father has a system nearly 20 years old, that is hard wired in. that will pan and tilt with the light mounted behind the camera and follows it. same as what this lad is offering except his is wireless. it is the only way to get a true and accurate picture of cows calving. ive a seperate system in with 4 static cameras with ir through the broadband and it is useless hard to make out where one cow starts and the other ends at night. even with a metahalite light on

offalygirl08 · 15-11-2010 11:13am

Great! That is quick service. Hope it all works out for you.

topcat199 · 04-01-2011 1:57pm

Hi did anyone install a wireless system with the option of viewing it also online.I want the main signal sent to the house on the farm (200metre house to shed)and I want also to view it from my own house which is 15 mile away.I have heard of different ways of doing it but would like to talk to someone that has it up and running.
Thanks
Topcat199

Miller80 · 04-01-2011 10:47pm

Between my house and yard is a load of big trees, would these affect the quality of picture from cameras?

reilig · 04-01-2011 11:12pm

I've been considering a GSM security camera that will send pictures and videos to my mobile phone on request. It would be for a shed on an outfarm with no broadband and too far for a wireless or wired camera. It would be useful for checking on things once or twice a day and relatively cheap to buy and operate. Something like this:

http://www.eye-02.co.uk/index.html

It is a diy installation.

topcat199 · 05-01-2011 8:31pm

Yeah it is an option but I would prefer the wireless camera option it just I ve heard there are multiple ways of doing it via internet like connecting the feed straight to a computer at the house and let this stream the footage and then just use logmein to see whats on that computer so it keeps down the cost regarding data usage on your phone bill

briangriffin · 06-01-2011 1:44am

bbam wrote: »

Hi if you're anyway handy and willing to bodge things yourself this is what we did...

Onto E-bay and bought a transmitter/receiver set, they can be bought from UK suppliers but we bought direct from China and the goods came no bother...
Similar to this set..
http://cgi.ebay.ie/2-4GHz-Wireless-2W-Audio-Video-Transmitter-Receiver-uk-/280584634299?pt=UK_CCTV&hash=item415425bfbb

For the camera we used an old camcorder that was lying round, superior colour picture and sound, the AV connections match the transmitter perfectly.
Like this..
http://cgi.ebay.ie/Samsung-VP-M50-camcorder-/270657197984?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_Video_Camcorders&hash=item3f046d17a0

Fitted the transmitter inside a shed, drilled a hole and let the ariel poke out, sealed round..
The receiver can either be in my bedroom window for night time viewing or in the living room for the day viewing.. direct AV connection to the TV.

Spent about 2 hours knocking it together and it is good and cheap.. Stuff shown above for about €80
We're transmitting over about 200m direct line of sight...

Hi bbam just wondering if you had the time to explain exactly how this system works? You place the camera in the shed you must have to leave it plugged in and on for the night? the camera is connected to the transmitter is the transmitter also plugged in? you then have the receiver in your rooom and that is connected into the av scart of your computer? cheers

bbam · 06-01-2011 2:41pm

briangriffin wrote: »

Hi bbam just wondering if you had the time to explain exactly how this system works? You place the camera in the shed you must have to leave it plugged in and on for the night? the camera is connected to the transmitter is the transmitter also plugged in? you then have the receiver in your rooom and that is connected into the av scart of your computer? cheers

Camera & transmitter in the calving shed, yes both are plugged in and running all the time, AV connection cable from camera to transmitter.

Receiver plugged in in house and AV connection cable from receiver to TV.

To improve signal I drilled an 8mm hole in sheeting and let short ariel fo transmitter out through that.

Energy saving lights in shed on all night.

It's currently stored away but will be in use again soon..

Atilathehun · 06-01-2011 2:48pm

bbam wrote: »

Camera & transmitter in the calving shed, yes both are plugged in and running all the time, AV connection cable from camera to transmitter.

Receiver plugged in in house and AV connection cable from receiver to TV.

To improve signal I drilled an 8mm hole in sheeting and let short ariel fo transmitter out through that.

Energy saving lights in shed on all night.

It's currently stored away but will be in use again soon..

Would be a mighty simple solution, if you could connect the receiver end to a PC. That way you could log on form work or whatever through LOGMEIN software, as see what was happening in the shed:cool:

bbam · 06-01-2011 6:14pm

Atilathehun wrote: »

Would be a mighty simple solution, if you could connect the receiver end to a PC. That way you could log on form work or whatever through LOGMEIN software, as see what was happening in the shed:cool:

I suppose it would work with an AV->USB grabber but I've never tried, I have used a grabber to recover some old VHS onto DVD.

bog_savage · 07-01-2011 9:27pm

I have similar system as bbam , using 4 cameras ,
The 1 2.4ghz receiver can switch between them .

Have them mounted on these panning bases so each camera covers a wider area
http://cgi.ebay.ie/Auto-Rotate-Security-CCTV-CCD-Camera-Pan-Stand-Holder-B-/170583256607?pt=UK_CCTV&hash=item27b78dee1f

Also have a 2inch handheld receiver which I can have in the tractor or parlour and keep an eye on a cow .

Signal is not great from some of the cameras though , bbam , what type of external ariel have you sticking out through the roof ?

Cane across this , handy way of accessing cameras from PC

http://cgi.ebay.ie/USB-4-Channel-Wireless-CCTV-Camera-Video-Recorder-DVR-B-/180600670263?pt=UK_CCTV&hash=item2a0ca38837

bbam · 07-01-2011 9:54pm

bog_savage wrote: »

bbam , what type of external ariel have you sticking out through the roof ?

It's not an external at all, it's the fixed ariel on the unit, I drilled a small hole and the transmitter is cable tied in place so the ariel is protruding through.. It's at a downward slope to ensure drips fall off the end rather than run down into the unit... Makes a great difference to the quality of the signal.

jmhur · 09-01-2011 12:03am

I am thinking of investing in a wireless camera system as well.

The distance from calving house to dwelling is 70-80 metres approx. Alas. palm trees prevent direct line of vision.
Is there any way around this, apart from chopping down the trees?
Could the signal be bounced off another antenna on its way to house?
Thanking you in advance.

esolutions · 11-01-2011 12:21am

jmhur... From experience just cut down the palm trees. Nothing works as good as clear line of sight. Some systems say they can send signal through trees. This is possible but when the trees move in the wind it will interfere with the picture..

Shauny2010 · 11-01-2011 8:16pm

jmhur wrote: »

I am thinking of investing in a wireless camera system as well.

The distance from calving house to dwelling is 70-80 metres approx. Alas. palm trees prevent direct line of vision.
Is there any way around this, apart from chopping down the trees?
Could the signal be bounced off another antenna on its way to house?
Thanking you in advance.

You could just use the old type cable camera over that distance, in fact for a really cheap solution go and buy one of those CCTV cameras in Aldi. replace the 25m cable they supplied with whatever length cable you need ( within reason as in less than 90m)
There may be a small loss of picture quality over that distance if thats acceptable do no more if you want a perfect picture then connect the cable to a signal booster beside the TV.

pure breed · 24-01-2011 10:39pm

Duffmanic wrote: »

does anyone here know of any good quality wireless calving cameras on the market, the range needs to be about 50-100m, with a picture in colour.

Hi i recently just bought a cctv camera in aldi 100m range for the purpose of cows calving.
Our slatted shed/calving pen is a little farther then that, so to boost the signal to the house i also got a signal relayer in maplin that sends the signal/pic all the way to the house allowing for walls/buildings etc.
Total cost €120
cctv €60
Signal relay €60 (can take 4 cameras)
hope that helps

aidanki · 25-01-2011 12:42am

we have a turf shed 10yrds from back of out house. it is in the line of sight, and calving pen is about another 150yrds away

we would have clear line of sight other than for turf shed

does the turf shed rule out wireless

aidanki · 25-01-2011 8:57pm

dar31 wrote: »

their New Zoom Rotating camera is just the baby im looking for.

is this camera connected to TV or PC

the zoom rotate how does it work?

when you go to view it via TV/PC? do you rotate it? or do you program it so that it turns, pauses for preset time and then moves to next position?

Pacoa · 25-01-2011 10:00pm

Have a look on http://www.chinavasion.com/index.php/cName/surveillance-equipment

Some reasonably priced stuff there.

dar31 · 25-01-2011 10:51pm

aidanki wrote: »

is this camera connected to TV or PC

the zoom rotate how does it work?

when you go to view it via TV/PC? do you rotate it? or do you program it so that it turns, pauses for preset time and then moves to next position?

it is connected to the pc/wireless to the lap top, and have a tinge ma gig that sends it to the tv.

when set up properly it can be viewed over the internet on an iphone
the zoom rotate can be controlled from pc/phone
the big advantage of the system the lad has is the light mounted behind the camera and follows the path of the camera and can also be turned on and off from pc, clams you can read the tag in ear from a good distance....?
unfortunately he wont have it up and going till late summer.
he has the same kit imported but it costs 2-3k+, where as he is building his one for considerably cheaper cant get exact price from him though.

the current stuff i have in is similar in setup but with 4 fixed cameras, but has a lot of problems with lighting and picture clarity.
ptz camera with the light is the key to it.

thedevils · 26-01-2011 4:53pm

pure breed wrote: »

Hi i recently just bought a cctv camera in aldi 100m range for the purpose of cows calving.
Our slatted shed/calving pen is a little farther then that, so to boost the signal to the house i also got a signal relayer in maplin that sends the signal/pic all the way to the house allowing for walls/buildings etc.
Total cost €120
cctv €60
Signal relay €60 (can take 4 cameras)
hope that helps

Have you any links for these. ?

robin3 · 29-01-2011 12:33pm

Atilathehun wrote: »

Would be a mighty simple solution, if you could connect the receiver end to a PC. That way you could log on form work or whatever through LOGMEIN software, as see what was happening in the shed:cool:

Anyone done this??? does it work?, to connect the receiver to the pc i'd need av leads with usb connection, am i correct? and just looking at logmein, looks fab if it works for this purpose,

love to hear from someone with this set up

Shauny2010 · 29-01-2011 6:38pm

Would it not be easier to just get a skype phone
Set it up in the calving shed
skype it from either you PC or another Skype phone when you want to check the cow
Should also work out much cheaper than a dedicated Internet connection

robin3 · 29-01-2011 8:59pm

there's a novel idea,
not being smart here but when you skype someone don't they have to answer the phone to get connected, (maybe not don't use skype alot)

Shauny2010 · 30-01-2011 10:37am

No, you can easily set it to auto answer
Plus if your using another Skype phone you don't have to be near a PC

deerejohn · 30-01-2011 9:53pm

robin3 wrote: »

Anyone done this??? does it work?, to connect the receiver to the pc i'd need av leads with usb connection, am i correct? and just looking at logmein, looks fab if it works for this purpose,

love to hear from someone with this set up

did this but it is not streaming properly and thats over broadband for what that is worth! a slow image is what is appearing but over better quality broadband it may work!

adne · 31-01-2011 1:44pm

Shauny2010 wrote: »

No, you can easily set it to auto answer
Plus if your using another Skype phone you don't have to be near a PC

Does the Skype Phone in the shed not need to be within an internet wifi area. This could be the problem for most people....

BeeDI · 31-01-2011 2:14pm

adne wrote: »

Does the Skype Phone in the shed not need to be within an internet wifi area. This could be the problem for most people....

Yes, I think you are right.

I'm also looking at options to get cameras into my shed.
Shed is 500 meters from the house, and I can just see the roof of the shed from my house. Putting in a cable from house to shed is not an option, as I would have to cross the public road, a neighbours property, and a stream:mad:
Anyway, I have been researching what I need to get a wi-fi signal into the shed from my house.
I'm told the following needs to be done.
1. Set up a repeater router in the house to extend the range of my
wi-fi signal. This is the gizmo I need to do that. http://www.rfshop.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=universal+repeater&x=22&y=11

2. Set up a high gain ariel on the roof of the shed, to
reliably pick up the signal. This is the gizmo required http://www.rfshop.co.uk/antennas/2-45-ghz-802-11b-g-n/flat-panel-directional/ya-24-01-2-45ghz-16dbi-yagi-yr-24-01.html

Once properly installed and configured, I should have wi-fi in shed. Now I could use an IP camera which will connect to the internet through the wi-fi in shed. Hoping I can log on to the IP camera from laptop or smartphone no matter where I am, to see what's going on in the shed.

Cost for the two items above will be around €150. Camera would be extra on top of that.

adne · 31-01-2011 2:39pm

Let me know how u get on as this is the same solution i have in mind, I dont think that repeater will suffice to carry the signal that distance.

This is the one I had in mind but it is considerably more expensive
http://www.3com.com/products/en_US/detail.jsp?tab=reqoptprod&sku=3CRWEASYA73&pathtype=purchase

vanderbadger · 31-01-2011 2:47pm

lads its possible that if your house was close enough to the sheds and using the same power supply these might work
http://www.maplin.co.uk/dlan-high-speed-ethernet-ii-networking-over-the-mains-3-pack-264947
basically you plug them into a power socket either end and they will network you over the power cables, you can plug a network cable from each end into your end device
ive never tried mine now going up the yard but i use a pair of them in the house rather than trying to run a long network cable along the floor etc and i find them mighty

adne · 31-01-2011 3:16pm

vanderbadger wrote: »

lads its possible that if your house was close enough to the sheds and using the same power supply these might work
http://www.maplin.co.uk/dlan-high-speed-ethernet-ii-networking-over-the-mains-3-pack-264947
basically you plug them into a power socket either end and they will network you over the power cables, you can plug a network cable from each end into your end device
ive never tried mine now going up the yard but i use a pair of them in the house rather than trying to run a long network cable along the floor etc and i find them mighty

Cheers vanderBadger, these are a great job alright within a house but cannot see them reaching the 500M distance

BeeDI · 31-01-2011 10:26pm

vanderbadger wrote: »

lads its possible that if your house was close enough to the sheds and using the same power supply these might work
http://www.maplin.co.uk/dlan-high-speed-ethernet-ii-networking-over-the-mains-3-pack-264947
basically you plug them into a power socket either end and they will network you over the power cables, you can plug a network cable from each end into your end device
ive never tried mine now going up the yard but i use a pair of them in the house rather than trying to run a long network cable along the floor etc and i find them mighty

The supplier told me, with clear line of sight, this repeater combined with the high gain aerial, will reliably cover a distance of 750 meters.

adne · 01-02-2011 9:45am

BeeDI wrote: »

The supplier told me, with clear line of sight, this repeater combined with the high gain aerial, will reliably cover a distance of 750 meters.

Let me know how it works out. I would have my Doubts

vanderbadger · 01-02-2011 11:19am

BeeDI wrote: »

Yes, I think you are right.

I'm also looking at options to get cameras into my shed.
Shed is 500 meters from the house, and I can just see the roof of the shed from my house. Putting in a cable from house to shed is not an option, as I would have to cross the public road, a neighbours property, and a stream:mad:
Anyway, I have been researching what I need to get a wi-fi signal into the shed from my house.
I'm told the following needs to be done.
1. Set up a repeater router in the house to extend the range of my
wi-fi signal. This is the gizmo I need to do that. http://www.rfshop.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=universal+repeater&x=22&y=11

2. Set up a high gain ariel on the roof of the shed, to
reliably pick up the signal. This is the gizmo required http://www.rfshop.co.uk/antennas/2-45-ghz-802-11b-g-n/flat-panel-directional/ya-24-01-2-45ghz-16dbi-yagi-yr-24-01.html

Once properly installed and configured, I should have wi-fi in shed. Now I could use an IP camera which will connect to the internet through the wi-fi in shed. Hoping I can log on to the IP camera from laptop or smartphone no matter where I am, to see what's going on in the shed.

Cost for the two items above will be around €150. Camera would be extra on top of that.

just buy 2 of these beedi
http://www.wi-pipe.com/nanostation5-p-314.html?antenna=fd86a6fca2261fb18284e04e981eed2a
they will cover that distance easy, are high thruput also and can just be cable tied to anything, gutter pipe etc

jfh · 02-02-2011 3:27pm

hi lads, can anyone recommend a good wireless camera,
any opinions on the followinghttp://www.networkwebcams.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=30&products_id=754

thanks

pure breed · 08-03-2011 7:20pm

thedevils wrote: »

Have you any links for these. ?

yep here is the link for the signal relayer in maplin
http://www.maplin.co.uk/2.4ghz-wireless-signal-relay-station-260605
and i bought the camera in local Aldi €60 + €60 (relay)

Another way we used on our other slatted house was to mount a aerial on the shed outside with a cable into the camera inside and point the aerial towards the house and Aldi camera receiver will pick it up in the house works day and night(infra red)
http://www.maplin.co.uk/ = Aerial = €80

note: The prices are dearer in the irish Maplin than quoted on its website but still good value i find.

fisherking · 03-04-2011 10:27pm

Trying to do this cheaply for the brother
We have eircom broadband in the house only and the shed is about 140 metres away
We could run a cable from from a port on the router in the house to the shed but i have my doubts on cat6 cable with that distance.....
Has anyone experience of this lenght of cable run?
Is there any items that could boost the signal?
Or if anyone has any clever suggestions before i fork out:D
Thanks

JCB1 · 04-04-2011 1:33pm

I have ran external Cat5 cable over 100 metres with no loss of signal quality. But you do need to use the external cable to prevent weather damage.

towzer2010 · 05-04-2011 10:34am

fisherking wrote: »

Trying to do this cheaply for the brother
We have eircom broadband in the house only and the shed is about 140 metres away
We could run a cable from from a port on the router in the house to the shed but i have my doubts on cat6 cable with that distance.....
Has anyone experience of this lenght of cable run?
Is there any items that could boost the signal?
Or if anyone has any clever suggestions before i fork out:D
Thanks

Hi fisher

The max length for CAT5 is 100 meters or [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]you start running into signal loss so 140 is a bit to far really. Can you do it wirelessly? It you have line of sight then wireless aerials work very well.[/FONT]
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fisherking · 05-04-2011 11:36am

thanks
We probably could .....
Can you recommend one that would do the job?

Niall

towzer2010 wrote: »

Hi fisher

The max length for CAT5 is 100 meters or [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]you start running into signal loss so 140 is a bit to far really. Can you do it wirelessly? It you have line of sight then wireless aerials work very well.[/FONT]
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