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Football All Stars 2014

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    #122
    Past30Now
    Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Past30Now


    Realistically 8 - 12 all stars will come from the two finalists based on how they have panned out previously. That being the case there will probably be 1 or 2 players who didn't make the semi finals and the balance from Mayo and Dublin. From my perspective the only Dublin players who have a chance of making the team are Connolly and Flynn, and maybe Philly. Its unlikely that two of the three half forward berths will go to Dublin so I wouldn't be surprised if only one of them gets the nod. Hence if Dublin are to get a second player on the team, Philly would get my nod.

    As for POTY it probably depends on the result in the final. A Kerry win will almost certainly result in O'Donoghue getting the nod. A Donegal win might complicate things in that McHugh, Gallagher and Murphy might split the vote. If one of those has a stormer in the final he'll probably get the nod. Based on performances to date, particularly the quarter and semi finals I'd vote for Murphy. He was the best player on the pitch against Armagh, and excellent again against Dublin.


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    #123
    harpsman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭harpsman


    J Cheever Loophole wrote: »
    The reason I'm pulling you up about it is that you and I crossed swords on this before - this was what you said way back in early 2012 when Donegal and Armagh hadn't met in anything meaningful in ages.



    Now what was that outburst based on, given we weren't playing against each other at that time?!? :rolleyes:



    So get over it. ;)
    Good man,lets just move on and talk about the all stars, you re as bad as Oisin McConville:eek:


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    #124
    Boom__Boom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »
    You may have a general point on TV coverage but Kerry v Clare (or any of the weaker counties in Munster) has rarely been judging ground for All Stars apart from Clare's brief surge in the 90s and Limerick's flirtation with the top level from 2003 to 2005.

    Obviously the All-Stars arent going to be decided by a game against Clare (although having said that feel duty-bound to point out that Clare were very decent this year - we beat them by less than we beat Cork and Galway and on another night they could have possibly squeezed by Kildare.)

    Murphy for instance had the type of eye-catching game that if the game had been televised with his other consistent/steadier performances would probably have pushed him much closer into contention, as opposed to the current situation where as DDC1990 says he's not even being looked at as a possible All-Star.

    It's may sound odd but I wonder if it's somehow related to the fact thatt for an All-Ireland finalist, Kerry have so few players in what you would describe as pole position for All-Stars.
    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Well there you go, I thought it was players 23 and under? Must be u-21?

    He's not even being looked at as an All Star.

    Yup under-21 :D


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    #125
    Boom__Boom
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    Past30Now wrote: »
    From my perspective the only Dublin players who have a chance of making the team are Connolly and Flynn, and maybe Philly. Its unlikely that two of the three half forward berths will go to Dublin so I wouldn't be surprised if only one of them gets the nod. Hence if Dublin are to get a second player on the team, Philly would get my nod.

    I think in a sense half-forward looks like the most competitive line and I wonder if there is a danger of Connolly and Flynn splitting the vote - I can't see a huge number of voters giving them both votes, although I can't see many not giving one of the two of them a tick.

    I think they really need to see McHugh get the YPOTY and have him "lose out" on an All-Star to have any chance. Even then it might be very squeaky.

    Rightly or wrongly the Donegal has killed McMahon's chances stone dead imo


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    #126
    J Cheever Loophole
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    harpsman wrote: »
    Good man,lets just move on and talk about the all stars, you re as bad as Oisin McConville:eek:

    I hope you genuflected when you typed that name!! toungue.gif


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    #127
    Ronie32
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    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    I think in a sense half-forward looks like the most competitive line and I wonder if there is a danger of Connolly and Flynn splitting the vote - I can't see a huge number of voters giving them both votes, although I can't see many not giving one of the two of them a tick.

    I think they really need to see McHugh get the YPOTY and have him "lose out" on an All-Star to have any chance. Even then it might be very squeaky.

    Rightly or wrongly the Donegal has killed McMahon's chances stone dead imo

    Who do you reckon is in the running to make the half forward line ahead of Flynn, Connolly and Mchugh?

    One notion I have is if Donaghy has a massive final similar to the Mayo game, he might make full forward and Murphy could be pushed to the half forward line!


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    #128
    keane2097
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    I thought Donnchadh Walsh was desperate unlucky not to get an All Star last year when they pulled a stunt naming Cavanagh at half forward so Aidan O'Shea - not even Mayo's best player at centre field - could get one as well.

    If anything Walsh has been better this year. If you're leaving club performances out of it he's way more deserving of one than Connolly this year who a lot of people were calling on to be dropped through the Leinster campaign.


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    #129
    harpsman
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    J Cheever Loophole wrote: »
    I hope you genuflected when you typed that name!! toungue.gif
    Great player-not sure bout his "punditry" tho;might be losin his marbles.


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    #130
    harpsman
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    keane2097 wrote: »
    I thought Donnchadh Walsh was desperate unlucky not to get an All Star last year when they pulled a stunt naming Cavanagh at half forward so Aidan O'Shea - not even Mayo's best player at centre field - could get one as well.

    If anything Walsh has been better this year. If you're leaving club performances out of it he's way more deserving of one than Connolly this year who a lot of people were calling on to be dropped through the Leinster campaign.
    It wouldnt be a stunt to pick Murphy at centre forward-hes spent equal times through the middle in every line bar full back and goalkeeper so imo centre forward would be the most natural place to pick him.

    Walsh bit unlucky alright last year-was excellent against Cork and Kerry.

    I think Connolly is an absolute cert to win one given that afaiaa he hasnt got one yet, and also was outstanding in 2 massive games-the club final and last Sunday-when the chips were down. I wouldnt pay any heed to him not doin well in a few turkey shoots in Leinster-sure Cormac Costello and Dean Rock would be all stars if you were to count those non events


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    #131
    Boom__Boom
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    Ronie32 wrote: »
    Who do you reckon is in the running to make the half forward line ahead of Flynn, Connolly and Mchugh?

    One notion I have is if Donaghy has a massive final similar to the Mayo game, he might make full forward and Murphy could be pushed to the half forward line!

    At the moment there are 5 players less than evens with Paddypower

    McHugh 1/8 0.13
    Connolly 3/10 0.3
    Flynn 2/5 0.4
    D Walsh 8/15 0.53
    Mac Niallais 8/13 0.62

    If Kerry win it's very hard not to see Donnacha (who's never won an All-Star) picking one up. Even if Kerry don't win I could see him being a possible win depending on how the final goes.

    A massive issue is how McHugh's likely YPOTY will affect things - if lads vote for him in the YPOTY will they vote for him as an All-Star

    There's also the possibility that if one of Sheehan, O'Brien, McLoone or even Buckley has a big game in the final they might seriously come into the reckoning; depending on how the result goes and I could also see your Murphy/Donaghy scenario be a possibility as well. If any of these for instance are MOTM on the day this could put more pressure on things.

    Basically I could see lads looking at the ballot paper and running their eye over the half-forward category and after discarding a few of the 9 names on the basis of them being in the nominated to make up the full 9 number, category and deciding to give a vote to 1 of the 2 from Connolly or Flynn but not both.

    Obviously all speculation but seems plausible to me.


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    #132
    K-9
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    If Donegal beat Kerry it will be very hard to look past McHugh for an All Star as well, excellent in the Ulster Final and against Dublin.

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    #133
    Utopia Parkway
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    TCDStudent1 wrote: »
    Shane Walsh is a fantastic prospect. But his performances this year should have him nowhere near an all star.

    In fairness I don't think anyone said he'll get an All-Star. He'll get a nomination alright.

    Was probably in pole position for YPOTY though up to the quarter-finals but these things are nearly always decided by the final 3 (or 4 this year) games of the championship.


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    #134
    Nidgeweasel
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    K-9 wrote: »
    If Donegal beat Kerry it will be very hard to look past McHugh for an All Star as well, excellent in the Ulster Final and against Dublin.

    He'll get one. Personally I think Odhrán's is more deserving but I'm sure there's room for both!


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    #135
    RoscommonTom
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    That ref reilly will surely get one after his performance for kerry last week,


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    #136
    DDC1990
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    RoscommonTom wrote: »
    That ref reilly will surely get one after his performance for kerry last week,
    You had since the second round of the qualifiers to come up with a joke, and that's the best you can do? ;)

    Reilly bashing is sooooo last week.


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    #137
    washman3
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    RoscommonTom wrote: »
    That ref reilly will surely get one after his performance for kerry last week,

    Excellent contribution to the thread...!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #138
    homerjay2005
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    thread Bump....predict your all stars :)


    Durcan
    O Mahony
    Mcgee
    Higgins
    Murphy
    Crowley
    Mcglynn
    Moran
    Gallagher
    Flynn
    Connolly
    Walsh
    O Donoghue
    Donoghy
    Murphy


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    #139
    robbiezero
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    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    thread Bump....predict your all stars :)


    Durcan
    O Mahony
    Mcgee
    Higgins
    Murphy
    Crowley
    Mcglynn
    Moran
    Gallagher
    Flynn
    Connolly
    Walsh
    O Donoghue
    Donoghy
    Murphy

    Has Michael Murphy done enough to get one?
    I feel sometimes that the hype is greater than the substance with him.
    Limited displays in semi and the final. Not a hope is he ahead of Cillian O Connor for me. Between himself and Donaghy for full-forward for me and I would have Donaghy ahead.


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    #140
    Ed Winchester
    Registered Users Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Ed Winchester


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Has Michael Murphy done enough to get one?
    I feel sometimes that the hype is greater than the substance with him.
    Limited displays in semi and the final. Not a hope is he ahead of Cillian O Connor for me. Between himself and Donaghy for full-forward for me and I would have Donaghy ahead.

    Michael Murphy was outstanding in the semi final. They wouldn't have won it without him.


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    #141
    Smartly Dressed
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    robbiezero wrote: »
    Has Michael Murphy done enough to get one?
    I feel sometimes that the hype is greater than the substance with him.
    Limited displays in semi and the final. Not a hope is he ahead of Cillian O Connor for me. Between himself and Donaghy for full-forward for me and I would have Donaghy ahead.

    Not a hope is Michael Murphy ahead of Cillian O Connor for an all-star? Everyone is free to make their case for who they think should get an all-star, but leaving Murphy without ''a hope'' despite dominating in every game besides the final seems a bit much.

    If Murphy had a better final, he'd be very close to winning footballer of the year, imho.


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    #142
    robbiezero
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    Smartly Dressed wrote: »
    Not a hope is Michael Murphy ahead of Cillian O Connor for an all-star? Everyone is free to make their case for who they think should get an all-star, but leaving Murphy without ''a hope'' despite dominating in every game besides the final seems a bit much.

    If Murphy had a better final, he'd be very close to winning footballer of the year, imho.

    For me... that is i.e. in my opinion.
    I didn't think he dominated every game.


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    #143
    CurryFlavoured
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    I agreed with the Sunday game team bar McHugh #12, Boyle #7 and Durkan. I'd have James Mc or either of Donegal's wingbacks ahead of Boyle, probably Dessie Mone as well. The other wing forward role is difficult, I'd nearly move Murphy out considering he's basically been a half forward, then put Donaghy at #14. Durkan's final performance makes it hard to put him in, his kicking was poor early on against Dublin as well although he improved that day. Hard to pick a GK though, Hennelly's underrated.

    Hennelly, O'Mahony, N. McGee, Higgins, P. Murphy, Crowley, McGlynn, Moran, Gallagher, Flynn, M.Murphy, Connolly, O'Donoghue, Donaghy, O'Connor.


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    #144
    Smartly Dressed
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    robbiezero wrote: »
    For me... that is i.e. in my opinion.
    I did acknowledge that - I didn't say you were wrong. I was merely pointing out that, in my opinion, the words ''not a hope'' were a bit strong.
    I didn't think he dominated every game.
    Fair enough.


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    #145
    K-9
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    Murphy will be a cert for an All Star, Neill McGee, Gallagher as well and I'd be surprised if McHugh doesn't get one. The problem with Murphy is where do you put him? He'll probably be in the FF line despite only playing there intermittently.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #146
    turniphead
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    AN other; Fitzgerald, N McGee, Higgins; P Murphy, Boyle, McGlynn; Moran, Gallagher; Flynn, M Murphy, Connolly; JOD, Donaghy, COC.


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    #147
    CurryFlavoured
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    Crowley is a cert turniphead. He's had a brilliant season.


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    #148
    Sanchez83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 277 ✭✭Sanchez83


    Goalkeeper would have to be between Cluxton and Hennely.Durcan had a terrible final which cost Donegal so surely has lost his chance.
    I'd go-
    Cluxton
    Fitzgearld,McGee,Higgins
    Murphy,Crowley,McGlynn
    Moran,Gallagher
    Donnacha Walsh,Murphy,Connolly
    Donohue,Donaghy,O Connor

    O Mahoney had a great final but Fitzgearld was better all season.
    Donnacha Walsh is one of the most underrated players of all time.At one stage on Sunday in the first half he was the last man back defending a high ball looking like a full back.The man has an engine second to none.


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    #149
    homerjay2005
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    ya, Donnacha gets overlooked every year. would be great if he finally got one. i guess his shooting left him down on Sunday and it could perhaps have cost him the all star.


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    #150
    chubba1984
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    Paul Durkan
    Paul Murphy
    Neil McGee
    Keith Higgins
    James McCarthy
    Peter Crowley
    Colm Boyle
    David Moran
    Neil Gallagher
    Paul Flynn
    Michael Murphy
    Diarmuid Connolly
    James O'Donoghue
    Kieran Donaghy
    Cillian O'Connor


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    #151
    Chrissybhoy
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    1. Cluxton
    2. Fitzgerald
    3. McGee
    4. Higgins

    5. Mcarthy
    6. Crowley
    7. Mone

    8. Gallagher
    9. S O Shea

    10. Flynn
    11. Connolly
    12. Mchugh

    13. O Donughue
    14. Murphy
    15. O Conor


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