The Landrover Discovery Td5 Thread

101sean · 19-02-2012 11:48pm

That's so true!

Just worked out what the oil leak on the front of my Td5 engine is after 4 years (camshaft oil seal, basically a rubber bung):o

Still haven't fixed my abs, had part for two months.

:o

Green Oval · 19-02-2012 11:56pm

There's a few drops of oil under the front of mine too!
I'll investigate some day. Never drops any oil on the dipstick so i'm not too worried.
For now.
I see a silver one going around our local town which looks like it left the factory last week. And its a 02 to make it worse. Must find out who owns it. Its showing me up a bit so a spell of polishing is looming as well. I think a local solicitor might own it so lets hope it gives him endless trouble.

Is there a trouble shooting thread for New Holland as well?

Atilathehun · 20-02-2012 12:22pm

I drive a company supplied Landcruiser, commercial. It's 2005, and has 256k kilometers on the clock. Injector seals done under warranty. Apart from that, just plain vanilla servicing.

It's due to be changed in August, so I was seriously considering getting commercial Discovery. Like the cabin compared to Landcruiser.

But now that I have read this thread ,....

:( , ........... would I be off my head, to consider such a change.

101sean · 20-02-2012 2:03pm

I assume you'd be looking at a newer Discovery 3 or 4 (2004-2008, 2008 on) which doesn't have the issues that the D2s in this thread had, just some different ones! They are considered pretty reliable, the Range Rover Sport is on the same chassis and you don't hear many complaints about them.

Land Rover currently can't build there products quickly enough, 8 month wait on Evoques at the moment. If going to a LR dealer be choosy, some are hopeless, others OK. Dealers here are also selling D4s with 5 seats as N1 commercials and don't appear to be importing the full 2 seat commercial versions.

For specific D3/4 issues look here - http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/
http://www.disco4.com/forum/

Suckler · 20-02-2012 2:05pm

Atilathehun wrote: »

I drive a company supplied Landcruiser, commercial. It's 2005, and has 256k kilometers on the clock. Injector seals done under warranty. Apart from that, just plain vanilla servicing.

It's due to be changed in August, so I was seriously considering getting commercial Discovery. Like the cabin compared to Landcruiser.

But now that I have read this thread ,.... :( , ........... would I be off my head, to consider such a change.

Had a Discovery 3 - Can honestly say it was one of the best cars I've ever driven. The Air suspension is superb. Only changed it because I changed jobs.

Atilathehun · 20-02-2012 2:53pm

101sean wrote: »

I assume you'd be looking at a newer Discovery 3 or 4 (2004-2008, 2008 on) which doesn't have the issues that the D2s in this thread had, just some different ones! They are considered pretty reliable, the Range Rover Sport is on the same chassis and you don't hear many complaints about them.

Land Rover currently can't build there products quickly enough, 8 month wait on Evoques at the moment. If going to a LR dealer be choosy, some are hopeless, others OK. Dealers here are also selling D4s with 5 seats as N1 commercials and don't appear to be importing the full 2 seat commercial versions.

For specific D3/4 issues look here - http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/
http://www.disco4.com/forum/

Thanks for that. Just had a very quick glance through the issues on Disco 4.
Mind made up. Stick to the Landy. I just cannot believe, that any modern day vehicle could have so many bugs and glitches, and still have people who want to purchase.
Quite apart from the annoyance of so many problems, I just simply would not have the time to be tooing and froing to the dealer to get the issues fixed. I need to sit into the car, at 7am every day, and drive to thje job, and stay on the job, all day every day.
That prerequisite, would seem to be beyond the capabilities of Disco 4.:(

Suckler · 20-02-2012 2:57pm

Suckler wrote: »

Had a Discovery 3 - Can honestly say it was one of the best cars I've ever driven. The Air suspension is superb. Only changed it because I changed jobs.

Also to add to this, I still have a TD5 Disco - The disco has given me two minor problems in 70k Kilometres - Fuel pressure regulator & Sensor in the roof recently.

I've towed cattle and lengths of steel and she always kept going. Lovely machine to drive on motorways as well

101sean · 20-02-2012 7:00pm

Most of the problems that crop up on here are with older high mileage vehicles that are on their 3rd/4th owners that didn't get proper care early on, especially if they were new in Ireland.

Land Rover's quality control has improved vastly, Freelander 2 is reckoned to be trouble free. The dealer experience is the let down, seem to be either very good or a total disgrace with nothing in between :rolleyes:

Green Oval · 20-02-2012 10:22pm

Atilathehun wrote: »

I drive a company supplied Landcruiser, commercial. It's 2005, and has 256k kilometers on the clock. Injector seals done under warranty. Apart from that, just plain vanilla servicing.

It's due to be changed in August, so I was seriously considering getting commercial Discovery. Like the cabin compared to Landcruiser.

But now that I have read this thread ,.... :( , ........... would I be off my head, to consider such a change.

Well, if you'd rather drive round in a up-turned boat so be it. I fear we can help you no further. You do realise that the Disco3/4 is an entirely different car than the one discussed in this thread?

Atilathehun · 21-02-2012 10:57am

Green Oval wrote: »

Well, if you'd rather drive round in a up-turned boat so be it. I fear we can help you no further. You do realise that the Disco3/4 is an entirely different car than the one discussed in this thread?

No, it's not that I'd rather the Landcruiser, but that I absolutely need reliability and the car on the road 99% of the time. I rather fance the idea of changing to a Disco 4.
The thread I'm looking at is this one http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/faults-fixes-d4-vf48.html

That's a lot of stuff cropping up on the D4!!

It's just I'm coming off a vehicle, that has never once let me down. Not once.
Still, I must take a test drive in the Landrover, just to whet my appetite a bit more. Bloody expensive though compared to L'cruiser:eek:

101sean · 21-02-2012 12:59pm

Fair enough, may as well take advantage and get a test drive anyway but it sounds like you are not going to be converted!

Your perception of reliability is one LR has struggled with since the 70s and they've still some way to go, they are sometimes their own worst enemy

OldGuysRule · 21-02-2012 3:16pm

Reliability can be seriously impacted by servicing. I am on my second Disco td5 (my fourth Disco altogether) and have never been left at the side of the road. I keep my vehicles serviced and use them well.

Tora Bora · 21-02-2012 6:43pm

OldGuysRule wrote: »

Reliability can be seriously impacted by servicing. I am on my second Disco td5 (my fourth Disco altogether) and have never been left at the side of the road. I keep my vehicles serviced and use them well.

But reading back this thread, there appears to be a common consensus that LR vehicles, have issues, albeit the D4 is somewhat better then previous models, PLUS, too many of the dealers are below par:eek:

So we have a mix of a vehicle which needs really good dealer serice to make up for it's underlying quality issues, which in actual fact has a poor dealer support

Wow:rolleyes:

Green Oval · 21-02-2012 8:35pm

I've had 3 disco 2 and the only time i was left stranded was once when i let one run out of diesel. The first had 180k on it and was still going fine when i sold it. Issues are not uncommon certainly but in my experience the issues i've had are more annoying than journey ending. I've been all over France, Belguim, Germany and Holland in these cars and never let down once. I'd set out for anywhere in the morning in mine. Don't confuse sticky door regulators with basic reliability. In engine and gearbox terms Disco is as sound as anything really.
A lot of its down to non-servicing i'd say when it comes to major mechanical failure.
There's no real way to prevent 7 yr old electric window winders going wonky.

OldGuysRule · 22-02-2012 1:15pm

The youngest Disco 2's are now eight years old, it would seem a bit mad relying on main dealers for minor or service items. There are enough guys out there around the country who know these vehicles.

Green Oval · 22-02-2012 1:30pm

OldGuysRule wrote: »

The youngest Disco 2's are now eight years old, it would seem a bit mad relying on main dealers for minor or service items. There are enough guys out there around the country who know these vehicles.

True to a large degree. But if you plan to trade it back to the same dealer some day it also pays to keep in touch. I would'nt buy a second hand Discovery of any age from anybody regardless of the deal unless they were a main dealer.

JohnBoy · 24-02-2012 1:34pm

Does anyone have any links to a good buying guide? i'm thinking of changing the frontera and it's either another frontera, or a td5

OldGuysRule · 24-02-2012 1:44pm

Not sure if you have to register but a very good site;

http://www.thed2boysclub.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=136

Just remember that when you look at lists / buying guides like these, they are a condensed form of all the problems many have had over years of ownership of thousands of vehicles. Highly unlikely that you could find a machine with all the problems! They do provide a good checklist of things to look for and questions to ask

101sean · 24-02-2012 1:47pm

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php?t=40317 is very good despite being South African based.

Plus look back up this thread!

Go for the newest you can, post 02 best and the run out models will have extras thrown in (UK imports, any first registered here will mostly likely be poverty spec)

Kali_Kalika · 28-03-2012 12:20pm

Appologies I know I've asked this elsewhere but it doesn't appear anyone there has any info for me - so I hope I can post this here

How do I remove the back seat head rests in a 2002 Land Rover Discovery? There are no push in clips - just round circular pieces covering the 2 spikes of the head rest - you turn them to move the headrest up and down but I cannot remove them completely

Turning the circular pieces - this will only raise and lower them - I pulled hard to remove them but not overly hard as I don't want to break anything - but if they were going to come out from just doing that they would have.

Checked the owners manual - no help.

Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this!

OldGuysRule · 28-03-2012 5:28pm

Sorry, can't help you. Any time I needed that sort of space, I just put the seats down in my Disco.

I will have a look later and respond if I work it out

tony.aspergers · 28-03-2012 5:57pm

As far as I know, they cannot be removed, due to a rule change in the UK when that model came out in 1998. The centre one should drop down into the seat when you open out the arm rest. The other two are designed to remain in place when you fold the seats down.

Using this vehicle without the headrests in place contravenes the safety rules (something to do with the airbags/seatbelt design).

Hope this helps.

Kali_Kalika · 29-03-2012 11:36pm

I only needed to remove them to place a cover over the seat

No laws were broken

Head rests were successfully removed and replaced

Firstly - its not a 1 person job (unless you have 2 sets of arms!)

The secret is to turn them both to the "open" direction (the way the allows you to raise and lower them) then keeping them firmly in that direction your helper needs to lift them fully out - they will slide out incredibly easy once both of them are pushed and held to the full "open" position.

101sean · 30-03-2012 7:27am

Glad you go that sorted, I looked in the RAVE manual and that didn't even cover it.

mf690 · 03-04-2012 1:35pm

Anyone know where I might get a front bumper for 02 td5 discovery.New or a good secondhand . Main dealer price is over €600. any help appricated.

Suckler · 03-04-2012 1:47pm

mf690 wrote: »

Anyone know where I might get a front bumper for 02 td5 discovery.New or a good secondhand . Main dealer price is over €600. any help appricated.

Was looking for one of these myself a while ago - decent 2nd hand ones are hens teeth!

101sean · 03-04-2012 3:33pm

Best I can find is from LRseries which by the time you add VAT, delivery and exchange rate won't be far off €600

http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/4840/DPC000150PMA-FRONT-BUMPER-ASSEMBLY-BLACK.html?search=front%20bumper&page=1

Try Equicar or CWS 4x4 breakers in the UK

tony.aspergers · 03-04-2012 8:10pm

mf690 wrote: »

Anyone know where I might get a front bumper for 02 td5 discovery.New or a good secondhand . Main dealer price is over €600. any help appricated.

Try the dealers up in Northern Ireland........ Or the UK breakers / independent specialists. Most of the secondhand ones down here are in poor condition, they break easily especially the original 98-02 examples. The later ones mid 02 onwards are better usually.

MyStubbleItches · 17-04-2012 4:01pm

Always keep an eye on this thread but unfortunately the time has come to look for advice!

My 03 td5 (same one you saw Sean) started giving trouble a few days ago. Running rough, idling speed only c. 700 rpm, would only hit c. 2750 rpm with the pedal to the floor in neutral. Having re-read this thread, I took out the ECU and sure enough there was a bit of oil appearing on the red plug. So I've just fitted a new injector harness but the problem persists, although not as bad. She'll rev to c. 3100 rpm now in neutral. My initial thoughts were that it was a fuel problem. She got a full service not so long ago, incl. the fuel filter.

Anyone have any ideas?

101sean · 17-04-2012 6:45pm

The oil that's in the main loom will still run out of the red plug for while, you'll have to flush it out with solvent every few days for a couple of weeks until it stops. I use a spray can of brake cleaner for a job like this.

Was it you I meet you in Thurles and diagnosed a duff MAF? My memory isn't what it was

It's possible for even a new MAF to fail, unplug and see if performance improves.

The Landrover Discovery Td5 Thread

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