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Should the womens mini Marathon be banned

  • 04-06-2008 10:44am
    #1
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭


    First off its blatantly discriminatory, as it does not allow men to enter, this would be fine if there were a similar mini jog around town for all the fat men who fancy a walk and a medal at the end.

    Secondly I object to the use of the term Marathon in its name.
    marathon
    1. a race on foot of 26 miles 385 yards (42.195 kilometres)
    2. any long or arduous task or event

    And thirdly its a feckin traffic nightmare and ruins the end of a good bank holiday weekend, cant they take this stroll to the midlands or somewhere else or maybe even get these women to stroll up the mountains.

    There I have said it now.


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  • #2
    Keano
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    I always disliked the use of the name of the mini marathon for a race so short but I wouldn't ban it.


  • #3
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    Keano A Legend wrote: »
    I always disliked the use of the name of the mini marathon for a race so short but I wouldn't ban it.


    I think it should be banned on sexual discrimination grounds.

    The name should be changed to the Dublin 10Km race or the Dublin 10km Charity run


  • #4
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Rob_l wrote: »
    Secondly I object to the use of the term Marathon in its name.
    Keano A Legend wrote: »
    I always disliked the use of the name of the mini marathon for a race

    Call it the 'fun-sized Snickers' so...




    :pac:


  • #5
    Dizzyblonde
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    Build a bridge Rob ;):D


  • #6
    DarkJager
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    How about adding some obstacles to make it more interesting? Maybe large tree trunks that swing across the road swatting away large numbers of the group?? That way it would really be only the best woman that would win!! Clean up might take a while though ;)


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  • #7
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Call it the 'fun-sized Snickers' so...

    Ha ha ha, I get jokes.:)

    If this is really such a big concern to you then I feel you have a very empty life. Besides men can run in it they just have to dress like women.


  • #8
    xzanti
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,440 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    So do what the other men do, dress up like a woman and run it anyway :)


  • #9
    Steve_o
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    Stuff like this shouldn't annoy you Rob, this annoyance/anger could be channeled into something constructive... If you wanna run it, dress up like a woman, if you don't... don't, simple!


  • #10
    egan007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭egan007


    Vote +1 for most pointless thread on boards ever.....


  • #11
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    xzanti wrote: »
    So do what the other men do, dress up like a woman and run it anyway :)

    I want to use roll eyes but I will resist, why should I be forced to degrade myself so?

    Should women not have then dressed up as men and put on funny voices if they wanted to go back in the old days mens golf clubs nooooooooo they protested and ruined it for everyone


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  • #12
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    alanmurphy83 wrote: »
    Ha ha ha, I get jokes.:)

    If this is really such a big concern to you then I feel you have a very empty life. Besides men can run in it they just have to dress like women.


    Right now you deserve it :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • #13
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    egan007 wrote: »
    Vote +1 for most pointless thread on boards ever.....



    Thanks


  • #14
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Anything that keeps the wimmin of Ireland nice n fit should NEVER be banned.

    Besides, the couple of months before it have been a joy to any male... sat outside the beer garden in my local watching the beauties in tight sporty gear and bosoms jiggling run by sure is a nice sight. Sure, I do have to turn my head from the odd mess, but it's still worth it.


  • #15
    Maximilian
    Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    This topic deserves to be made into a Major Motion Picture.


  • #16
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Anything that keeps the wimmin of Ireland nice n fit should NEVER be banned.

    Besides, the couple of months before it have been a joy to any male... sat outside the beer garden in my local watching the beauties in tight sporty gear and bosoms jiggling run by sure is a nice sight. Sure, I do have to turn my head from the odd mess, but it's still worth it.

    Ah yes I would agree if it was only pert bottomed girls allowed to run but this is not the case, the odd mess you say :eek:


  • #17
    earlyevening
    Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭earlyevening


    Rob_l wrote: »
    First off its blatantly discriminatory, as it does not allow men to enter, this would be fine if there were a similar mini jog around town for all the fat men who fancy a walk and a medal at the end.

    Secondly I object to the use of the term Marathon in its name.
    marathon
    1. a race on foot of 26 miles 385 yards (42.195 kilometres)
    2. any long or arduous task or event

    And thirdly its a feckin traffic nightmare and ruins the end of a good bank holiday weekend, cant they take this stroll to the midlands or somewhere else or maybe even get these women to stroll up the mountains.

    There I have said it now.


    I agree. Its a fun run/walk for the ladies and has nothing to do with marathons.


  • #18
    Steve_o
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    Maximilian wrote: »
    This topic deserves to be made into a Major Motion Picture.

    /Gets popcorn and waits for the fallout....


  • #19
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Maximilian wrote: »
    This topic deserves to be made into a Major Motion Picture.

    Can Dysons go at 88mph?


  • #20
    hunnymonster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    This is one of may favourite rants.

    I love the conversations that go something like

    silly woman: "I ran the marathon on Monday"
    me: "Congratulations, what time did you do?"
    silly woman "1 hour 5 minutes"
    me "wow, that's impressive, the world record was 2.15"
    silly woman - stupid look on her face.

    A marathon is 26.2 miles (42.2. km if you prefer). Unless you've run that distance, do not pretend you have run a marathon. As anyone who did actually run the marathon (in Cork) on Monday will tell you, there is a world of pain that separates 10 km from 26.2 miles.*




    Obviously a woman running a 30 min 10 km is also in some degree of pain, but I'm talking about the 1 hour mini-"marathon" people here!


  • #21
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Rob_l wrote: »
    I think it should be banned on sexual discrimination grounds.
    The name should be changed to the Dublin 10Km race or the Dublin 10km Charity run

    Dublin Forum 10km Charity fun run FTW


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  • #22
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    hunnymonster wrote: »
    This is one of may favourite rants.

    I love the conversations that go something like

    silly woman: "I ran the marathon on Monday"
    me: "Congratulations, what time did you do?"
    silly woman "1 hour 5 minutes"
    me "wow, that's impressive, the world record was 2.15"
    silly woman - stupid look on her face.

    A marathon is 26.2 miles (42.2. km if you prefer). Unless you've run that distance, do not pretend you have run a marathon. As anyone who did actually run the marathon (in Cork) on Monday will tell you, there is a world of pain that separates 10 km from 26.2 miles.*




    Obviously a woman running a 30 min 10 km is also in some degree of pain, but I'm talking about the 1 hour mini-"marathon" people here!
    Your ideas are intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.


  • #23
    Maximilian
    Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Can Dysons go at 88mph?

    They'd fit well enough in the back of a Micra but until wimmin learn how to use 3rd gear, its not looking good.


  • #24
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I know someone who did it and she said joggers and runners were instructed to go the front.
    However, many walkers insisted on staying at the front so when it started so the runners spent the first few minutes tripping, dodging and overtaking the walkers

    Well done to all who took part, why can’t the walkers stay at the back? :confused:


  • #25
    JangoFett
    Registered Users Posts: 854 ✭✭✭JangoFett


    It raises money for worthwhile causes so no, it should not be banned

    I would like to see a men's mini-marathon to raise money for testicular/prostate cancer


  • #26
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    JangoFett wrote: »
    It raises money for worthwhile causes so no, it should not be banned

    I would like to see a men's mini-marathon to raise money for testicular/prostate cancer


    Or just one event which is not discriminatory by banning male competitors


  • #27
    JangoFett
    Registered Users Posts: 854 ✭✭✭JangoFett


    Yeah, but it shouldn't be banned.

    Todays society is full of these "women only" things and aren't illegal or discriminatory somehow, insurance companies that only insure women for example

    But seeing as the mini-marathon has become a female institution I don't see it becoming a non-discriminatory event.

    I still think its for a worthy cause.


  • #28
    earlyevening
    Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭earlyevening


    Keep it (no issue there), retain it as a women only jaunt. Just remove the word "marathon" from the title of the event.


  • #29
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    JangoFett wrote: »
    Yeah, but it shouldn't be banned.

    Todays society is full of these "women only" things and aren't illegal or discriminatory somehow, insurance companies that only insure women for example

    But seeing as the mini-marathon has become a female institution I don't see it becoming a non-discriminatory event.

    I still think its for a worthy cause.


    These are all fair points but still discriminatory and can be changed for example the lone parents allowance was the single mothers allowance and only payable to females until a man took the country to Europe to end that discrimination


  • #30
    togster
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    Councillor O'Kelly??


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  • #31
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    xzanti wrote: »
    So do what the other men do, dress up like a woman and run it anyway :)
    Actually they don't allow that anymore. Someone asked about this and she was annoyed that men couldn't participate in any way as it was meant to be ultimately for charity (as it's definitely not an actual marathon).


  • #32
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    ixoy wrote: »
    Actually they don't allow that anymore. Someone asked about this and she was annoyed that men couldn't participate in any way as it was meant to be ultimately for charity (as it's definitely not an actual marathon).
    exactly
    I dont want post what the site says because it explicitly denies usage of content but your right it says something along the lines of

    the event is strictly female, males are not allowed

    not allowed, whats that all about


  • #33
    Todoquetengo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Todoquetengo


    There are lots of 10 k runs in Dublin city that men and women can sign up for and they don't attract 40,000 people! It's promoted for women and makes a lot of women get off their asses for the first time. I think part of the attraction is the fact it is a women's event. I bet a mens only event wouldn't attract 40,000 men so stop moaning about it and sign up for one of the other 10k races that happen over the summer if you feel really left out ;)

    Altough I do agree with the name of it, if another perosn asks me did I do the marathon at the weekend I'll scream....


  • #34
    robinph
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    Calling it anything "marathon" should certainly be stopped. Only two distances can reasonably have that in their title, the marathon distance itself obviously, and a half.

    Maybe the "A bit less than a quarter of a marathon only for people in dresses" might be a bit catchier for the future events?


  • #35
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    Todoquetengo wrote: »
    There are lots of 10 k runs in Dublin city that men and women can sign up for and they don't attract 40,000 people! It's promoted for women and makes a lot of women get off their asses for the first time. I think part of the attraction is the fact it is a women's event. I bet a mens only event wouldn't attract 40,000 men so stop moaning about it and sign up for one of the other 10k races that happen over the summer if you feel really left out ;)

    Altough I do agree with the name of it, if another perosn asks me did I do the marathon at the weekend I'll scream....


    Yes there are plenty of other 10km runs but none are across the city centre I have no problem with these women running around a track, but if they are going to block the city centre for a day I think it should be for a non discriminatory event,
    if twas the other way around would you be so obliging and say no carry on lads, we all know no such race would be allowed.


  • #36
    hunnymonster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    Rob_l wrote: »
    ...

    the event is strictly female, males are not allowed
    ....

    That didn't work so well
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56116630&postcount=883 (photography forum)

    In addition to the marathon (and begrudgingly the half). the word marathon is legitimately used in ultramarathons, which are technically anything longer than a marathon but most people start counting at 50km.


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  • #37
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    hunnymonster wrote: »
    That didn't work so well
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56116630&postcount=883 (photography forum)

    In addition to the marathon (and begrudgingly the half). the word marathon is legitimately used in ultramarathons, which are technically anything longer than a marathon but most people start counting at 50km.



    well if you check my first post I give the definition of a marathon as

    1. Sports
    a. A cross-country footrace of 26 miles, 385 yards (42.195 kilometers).
    b. A long-distance race other than a footrace: a swimming marathon.
    2.
    a. A contest of endurance: a dance marathon.
    b. An event or activity that requires prolonged effort or endurance    .

    I think your ultra marathons count as a test of endurance but I would certainly say a 10km race does not come anywhere near an endurance race


  • #38
    Todoquetengo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Todoquetengo


    Rob_l wrote: »
    Yes there are plenty of other 10km runs but none are across the city centre I have no problem with these women running around a track, but if they are going to block the city centre for a day I think it should be for a non discriminatory event,
    if twas the other way around would you be so obliging and say no carry on lads, we all know no such race would be allowed.

    I don't know if anyone has ever proposed a men's only veriosn it and I don't know how this veriosn was founded in the first place, but somebody thought it would attract a lot of people and it does, perhaps it's in the city centre because it's so big and it's not feasible to have it anywhere else where transport links aren't as good.


  • #39
    hunnymonster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    That's not actually the definition you gave in the first post but if you want to bring endurance into it, then I'm afraid a 10 km has to count as an endurance event. It doesn't matter if you base your "endurance" on muscular or cardiovascular, 10 km is an endurance not strength/power event. Look at the fist versus slow twitch muscles of runners, there is little common ground between a 100m sprinter and a 10000 track runner. There is significant similarity between a 10000 runner and a marathon runner, Indeed most of the great marathoners came from the longer track events.

    That said, the name "marathon" has come to mean a running event of 26.2 miles endurance and to equate that with a 10 km run, undermines the efforts of those who do the real race. It's slightly different for something like marathon swimming because there are no assumptions about the distance.


  • #40
    Reku
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Todoquetengo wrote: »
    I don't know if anyone has ever proposed a men's only veriosn it and I don't know how this veriosn was founded in the first place, but somebody thought it would attract a lot of people and it does, perhaps it's in the city centre because it's so big and it's not feasible to have it anywhere else where transport links aren't as good.

    They've had half marathons in the Phoenix park, so I don't see why they couldn't have this little stroll there too.

    The problem with the ignorent walkers insisting on remaining at the front happens every year, they'll even try make their way in front of the elite runner group (you have to qualify to get in that group to prove you're fast enough to not get in the way of those behind). Next year they should just issue cattle prods to select runners within the crowd to keep things moving.:D


  • #41
    Todoquetengo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Todoquetengo


    farohar wrote: »
    They've had half marathons in the Phoenix park, so I don't see why they couldn't have this little stroll there too

    I was referring to the number of people (40,000) not the length of the race :p


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  • #42
    Earthhorse
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    They shouldn't ban it no, but to make things equal women should be banned from taking part in it too.


  • #43
    Rob_l
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    They shouldn't ban it no, but to make things equal women should be banned from taking part in it too.


    +1


  • #44
    Reku
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Todoquetengo wrote: »
    I was referring to the number of people (40,000) not the length of the race :p
    A papal mass in 1979 saw almost one in three citizens of Ireland assembled in Phoenix Park to see Pope John Paul II celebrate mass.
    http://www.phoenixparkbook.com/history.htm

    The road through the Pheonix park, that they use for the half marathon, would also be wider than some of the roads they use for the minimarathon, so I can't see how the numbers would be an issue.

    Be honest, you ladies just want to be able to windowshop at the same time, hence strolling instead of running.:D


  • #45
    marylou82
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭marylou82


    Rob_l wrote: »
    Ah yes I would agree if it was only pert bottomed girls allowed to run but this is not the case, the odd mess you say :eek:


    Firstly Irish guys are hardly oil paintings..Im sure you're no George Clooney.


    Secondly..this race raises loads of money for charity, whats the big deal?? Givin out about traffic disruptions, come on.WALK for god sake.


  • #46
    MissHoneyBun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭MissHoneyBun


    I literally cant believe that some posters are being so *petty*
    Who gives a flying fukk what it's called?
    It's a fun event raising money for charities ffs.
    Lighten up for the love of God and stop trying to find fault with everything!


  • #47
    marylou82
    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭marylou82


    MissHoneyBun wrote: »
    I literally cant believe that some posters are being so *petty*
    Who gives a flying fukk what it's called?
    It's a fun event raising money for charities ffs.
    Lighten up for the love of God and stop trying to find fault with everything!


    +1


  • #48
    Reku
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    marylou82 wrote: »
    Firstly Irish guys are hardly oil paintings..Im sure you're no George Clooney.
    Arrr... 'tis true...:(

    When dealing with the stragglers at the tail end of the "race/run" just fit these and you should be fine anyway.:p


  • #49
    Homer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Homer


    farohar wrote: »

    Be honest, you ladies just want to be able to windowshop at the same time, hence strolling instead of running.:D

    That makes more sense than anything else in this thread.. Period!


  • #50
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    MissHoneyBun wrote: »
    I literally cant believe that some posters are being so *petty*
    Who gives a flying fukk what it's called?
    It's a fun event raising money for charities ffs.
    But they'd potentially double their charity collectings if they allowed men...

    Maybe there should be a men's mini marathon then, sponsored by Guinness or Rambo or something to even it out.


  • #51
    Reku
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    ixoy wrote: »
    Maybe there should be a men's mini marathon then, sponsored by Guinness or Rambo or something to even it out.
    Could end it right outside the brewery and have cans (packed in ice) for sale outside, all the thirsty lads after the run = serious income for Guinness.


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