Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

8th Amendment

1…333435363739»

Comments

  • #1902
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    anothernight wrote: »
    You'd think Irish doctors are ignorant of their own pregnancy-terminating actions when they perform abortions, the way you go on about intention to kill.

    Very few terminations, you say, but you appeared to expect none to have happened. Your whole argument (if it can be called that) hinged on that.

    In no particular order...







    EDIT: Removed a few "how many women have committed suicide" questions, because I don't think Black Menorca would understand the point...

    As I said, the one worrying aspect is those 3 terminations because of the suicide threat.


  • #1903
    anothernight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭anothernight


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    There will be far more women than men at the rally on Saturday. Go figure. :)

    Any of them of childbearing age? (lovely picture in the article I linked to)

    Call me selfish, but as a woman of childbearing age, I'll be protecting myself by not going.


  • #1904
    anothernight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭anothernight


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    As I said, the one worrying aspect is those 3 terminations because of the suicide threat.

    What about the other 23? Was your argument... er... how do I put this... irrelevant? Are you now ok with the 23 abortions? (medical terminations, if you want to call them that) Are you still proud that Ireland doesn't carry out abortions?


  • #1905
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    anothernight wrote: »
    Any of them of childbearing age? (lovely picture in the article I linked to)

    Call me selfish, but as a woman of childbearing age, I'll be protecting myself by not going.

    What a strange, ageist question. Anyway, happy to clarify for you....:

    rally-main.jpg


    10475731_10152567637602363_3160235958627936704_n-1.jpg

    1373149651-prolife-rally-held-in-dublin_2229818.jpg

    Pro-Life-Rally.jpg

    1373141075-7th-all-ireland-rally-for-life-celebrated-in-dublin_2229473.jpg

    belfast_5.jpg


  • #1906
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    anothernight wrote: »
    What about the other 23? Was your argument... er... how do I put this... irrelevant? Are you now ok with the 23 abortions? (medical terminations, if you want to call them that) Are you still proud that Ireland doesn't carry out abortions?

    Of course. The intention was to protect the mother. Which I have supported since the start of this thread. Really, you should know this by now.


  • #1907
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    What does "protect them" mean? Will women suddenly be forced into a Marie Stopes clinic (I hear the CEO makes 500k a year!!!!!) against their will? What about protecting the 26 unborn affected by abortion last year, why was the woman's life paramount in those cases?


  • #1908
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    lazygal wrote: »
    What does "protect them" mean? Will women suddenly be forced into a Marie Stopes clinic (I hear the CEO makes 500k a year!!!!!) against their will? What about protecting the 26 unborn affected by abortion last year, why was the woman's life paramount in those cases?

    We have deemed it so via X Case legislation passed by our political representatives last year. Tragic as those 26 lost lives are.


  • #1909
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    We have deemed it so via X Case legislation passed by our political representatives last year. Tragic as those 26 lost lives are.

    So you're ok with the direct targeting of 26 unborn lives. What about the ones directly targeted when women travel abroad for abortions?


  • #1910
    anothernight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭anothernight


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    What a strange, ageist question. Anyway, happy to clarify for you....:
    [pics]

    Not ageist. It's true that only women of childbearing age, the women who should have autonomy over their own bodies (which we don't in Ireland, at present) are the only ones who can actually get pregnant. Anyone else can well have an opinion, but it's unsavoury at best to be told what a woman (of childbearing age) can do to her own body, as if she were a child. Not that I expect you to understand.

    Fair enough, you've got pictures. I pointed out a picture too, of elderly people in one of those marches. I see that not all the pictures show such a capable-of-pregnancy population: http://www.demotix.com/news/2227705/7th-all-ireland-rally-life-marched-through-dublin#media-2229128
    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Of course. The intention was to protect the mother. Which I have supported since the start of this thread. Really, you should know this by now.

    You're very insulting to Irish doctors. Do you honestly believe that the doctors didn't know that they were killing the foetuses? What I know is that a medical termination (colloquially called an abortion*) is the killing of a foetus. Whether to save the life of the woman or not, the foetus is still killed. The doctors performing such terminations knew this. You might not like it, but intention doesn't change the fact. 26 women in Ireland were saved by doctors who killed their foetuses. And, get this... before the law was changed, even that wasn't legal. You appear to like that fact too.


    *Hey, in Spanish even miscarriages are abortions!


  • #1911
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    lazygal wrote: »
    So you're ok with the direct targeting of 26 unborn lives. What about the ones directly targeted when women travel abroad for abortions?

    Would you like me to quote Minister Varadker?

    Mr Varadkar said: “Abortion is illegal in Ireland except where there is a threat to the life of the mother. In these circumstances, it is a matter for the patient and her doctors.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/health-minister-confirms-26-abortions-5970477

    I, for one, am brimming with pride of our achievement, despite the abortion lobby throwing the kitchen sink at us. we still stand firm and maintain the criminality of their nefarious acts.


  • Advertisement
  • #1912
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Would you like me to quote Minister Varadker?

    Mr Varadkar said: “Abortion is illegal in Ireland except where there is a threat to the life of the mother. In these circumstances, it is a matter for the patient and her doctors.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/health-minister-confirms-26-abortions-5970477

    I, for one, am brimming with pride of our achievement, despite the abortion lobby throwing the kitchen sink at us. we still stand firm and maintain the criminality of their nefarious acts.
    Directly targeting26 unborn lives is a source of pride and achievement for you?


  • #1913
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    anothernight wrote: »
    Fair enough, you've got pictures.

    Happy to clarify that for you. :)


  • #1914
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    lazygal wrote: »
    Directly targeting26 unborn lives is a source of pride and achievement for you?

    I stand by the Constitution and X Case legislation, with pride.

    With the caveat of grave concern over suicide threats used as justification for a termination.


  • #1915
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    I stand by the Constitution and X Case legislation, with pride.

    With the caveat of grave concern over suicide threats used as justification for a termination.

    So only 23 abortions are a source of pride and achievement for you?


  • #1916
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,514 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    We're a victim of our own success. The event is so big we need more volunteers every year.

    You're more than welcome to join us. :)

    Can you tell us how the figures announced by the Minister will be discussed at this event - will be they mentioned factually, or spun into a sound bite about Ireland having a "liberal" relationship with abortion?

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



  • #1917
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    Can you tell us how the figures announced by the Minister will be discussed at this event - will be they mentioned factually, or spun into a sound bite about Ireland having a "liberal" relationship with abortion?

    Come along and find out for yourself. :)


  • #1918
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Chances are there's a few hundred more considering the activities of WomenOnWeb.


  • #1919
    pmasterson95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,074 ✭✭✭pmasterson95


    Hahahahaha "pro choice" "pro woman" on the same banner. Thats hilarious


  • #1920
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    The one thing this Rally For What Has The Potential To Be Life will achieve is boosting our tourist numbers. With the Euro so weak against the dollar there will be plenty from the US in attendance.


  • Advertisement
  • #1921
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Leave the modding stuff to the mods and admins, thanks.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #1922
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    Mr Varadkar said: “Abortion is illegal in Ireland except where there is a threat to the life of the mother. In these circumstances, it is a matter for the patient and her doctors.

    In all others, it is a matter between the patient and Ryanair.


  • #1923
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    During my break from Boards, I attended the Rally for Life in Dublin.

    It was a wonderful event with people of all ages celebrating life both born and unborn.

    There were a few people restrained by Gardai who were particularly intimidating from the pro abortion side at Clery's but all in all it was a great day.

    A big thank you goes to Youth Defence and the Pro-LifeCampaign for combining resources to make the day so enjoyable for all who participated.



  • #1924
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    25,000? Don't bull**** us.


  • #1925
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    25,000? Don't bull**** us.

    A wonderful day was had by all. :)


  • #1926
    Kev W
    Registered Users Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    A wonderful day was had by all. :)
    Yes.
    All 5 - 8000.


  • Advertisement
  • #1927
    Black Menorca
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,572 ✭✭✭Black Menorca


    Kev W wrote: »
    Yes.
    All 5 - 8000.

    I was too busy enjoying myself to do a headcount. :)

    The rappers were fantastic.


  • #1928
    Kev W
    Registered Users Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    Black Menorca wrote: »
    I was too busy enjoying myself to do a headcount. :)

    The rappers were fantastic.

    Its alright, it got taken care of.


  • #1929
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    No election or referendum on this.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement