Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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Jelle1880 wrote: »

No kidding Sherlock.

But it still happened, not my fault the Establishment newspapers (Because didn't a tim here say that the newspapers were doing their best to help us ?) didn't pick it up.

The difference is that a national paper hired the hearse and parked it outside Celtic Park for its back page. Newspapers today dont have the same influence as they did then.

EDIT

Anyways, that picture at Ibrox is "inspired" by the stunt done at Celtic Park. It probably wouldnt have been done otherwise.

Anyways, lets get back onto topic

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18471197

Rangers fans, if there is any that havent jumped ship to the newco yet, should be proud that their shambles of a club have been the catalyst for the SFA finally grabbing the SPL and SFL by the scruff of the necks and forcing them to merge. Also you can be proud that your shambles of a club has galvanised the entire scottish football fan community into wanting clubs to finally stand up and demand proper sporting integrity. Kudos, the death of your club leaves a lasting legacy for Scottish Football! :pac:

Jelle1880 wrote: »

And what exactly does this have to do with this situation ?

Or were you just looking for something to post which would allow you to peddle the myth that the club is completely gone ?

The SFA are fast tracking changes outlined in the McLeish report because of whats happening Rangers. You wouldnt be asking this if you bothered to read the article.

oranbhoy67 wrote: »

Why are you going on KDS then, obssessed with us are you?

You'll still be an immature, narrow minded pain in the proverbial.
Nice to know the status quo still exists eh?

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I did read it, I was more talking about your incessant need to constantly moan about how Rangers is dead or dying or whatever silly idea it is you have.

Dig your heels in all you want, its akin to Juventus and the 3 stars on their jersey.

When the SFA/SPL deduct titles off Rangers I think your head will explode :P

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Still going on about that ?

You've been saying that for months now, and there is still absolutely no indication that they will do that.

You do realise that Rangers is under investigation by the SPL for dual contracts. You do also realise that the CVA rejection gives the liquidators, which will be appointed by HMRC for the purpose of going after Rangers directors for tax liability, the legal powers to investigate and this could provide further evidence for the SFA/SPL on top of their own investigation. Illegal players result in 3-0 losses for any match they are involved with.

No indication, really?

Jelle1880 wrote: »

You do realise that that investigation is on hold until the Newco situation is resolved ?

Unless the SFA come out and say 'Yeah, we're going to strip them of trophies' then all you've got is hopes of Celtic fans all over the world.

Not to mention that you can't really strip trophies of a club that is no longer there.
Unless... you're agreeing that the Newco will hold the same history ?

I know the investigation is on hold but it flies in the face of your "absolutely no indication" comment.

The standard practice is to null and void matches (3-0 to the other team) where illegal players are involved. I shouldnt have to point this out to you.

Rangers can be retrospectively stripped of results and titles whether they exist or not. Transferring assets into a newco affects this how?

blahfckingblah wrote: »

oh seriously will you ever relax and realise that if the shoe was on the other foot you would be the one reveling in out situation

If?

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Not to the extent you lot are.

And that's a fact.

No, its your opinion and you've nothing to suggest it is a fact.

ColeTrain wrote: »

Hartson was signed for 6million but Murray had to double it with the Flo signing. Every fiver they spend and all that? That was obsession.

I guessing you read this

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4371825/The-day-Murrays-ego-killed-Rangers.html

To quote John Brown

“We were going beyond the budget. Money was being thrown at it. I mean Bert Konterman was on £18,000 a week! What the hell was that all about?”

“When we signed Tore Andre Flo for £12m Jim Duffy was reserve team coach at Chelsea.

“He phoned me and said ‘Are they off their heads?’. Duff said he was fifth choice at Chelsea and a semi-retired Luca Vialli was ahead of him. Then Richard Gough phoned me. He was at Everton and he’d played against him and he just didn’t rate Flo in that sort of bracket.

“Those would have been two simple phone calls to make. Were Sir David and Advocaat not doing their homework?

“It was not just the £12m, it was £30,000-a-week in wages, minimum.

“When you spend money like that, it’s just throwing it away.”

“Flo’s true value was £4-6m and we threw £12m at that deal. That’s the sort of bad financial management of a football club that comes back to haunt you.

“We turned down John Hartson by failing him on a medical and we signed Flo.

“The day we dumped the Hartson deal we signed Ronald de Boer who had well-documented knee trouble of his own.

“A Dutch doctor sanctioned that. Strange that, eh?”

Ye made John Hartson a bitter man because of your treatment of him during his medical. Well Done! :pac:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/sponsors-side-with-smith-as-newco-loses-support.17891030

Sponsors are beginning to pull out of Rangers in support of Walter Smith's bid to buy control from Charles Green.

Walter Smith could derail the newco yet

ColeTrain wrote: »

I did indeed..

The semi-retired Vialli getting a game over the 12million pound star striker

Its shocking to hear comments like that tbh. Flo came in a fanfare whilst people involved at the club thought that before the ink dried!

Eirebear wrote: »

I couldnt give a flying one wether people like you are enjoying it or not tbh.
You're average post on this thread is filled with bitterness and hatred, and generally lacking anything in the direction of intelligence.

As you were.

He's said nothing that I've not said. You looking at post counts before deciding who should have an opinion or not?

monkey9 wrote: »

A Celtic fan with bitterness and hatred towards Rangers! Well i never!!!! Next you'll be telling me that Rangers fans have some sort of bitterness and hatred towards Celtic!

Shockin' :pac:

Eirebear wrote: »

Difference being some people manage to have a decent, thought out, constructive post which adds to the conversation every now and then.
Others don't.

TBH i don't even know why i'm posting this. Can't be ****ed with this forum these days.

Probably because you've no club to support!!

Dempsey wrote: »

I can understand the frustration and anger, the annoyance at the rival fans sticking the boot in. Celtic fans have been there, its a situation you dont fully understand until you are subjected to it and like said, Rangers are now going through something that is worse for the fans. The EBT scheme and tax evasion stops me from showing too much empathy tbh.

I hope you dont walk away like keithafc, whilst we had our differences in the past I still respect your opinion tbh

Fair play man - I don't particularly expect sympathy, but as with all areas of life, there are some whose opinions i respect and , albeit grudgingly, will accept the fact that they will enjoy times like this and then there are the others.

Just because it's an internet forum, doesnt mean i particularly have to accept the narrowmindedness of constant hate filled posts. If we were sitting in a boozer in glasgow, or in dublin or wherever - how often would either of us give the guy who pops in and shouts at the top of his voice about "huns" and "scum" and airs his general hate filled views at anyone who will listen?

I'm not going to walk away (Yeah...i see what you did there! ) but things are pretty busy in my life right now and that coupled with the current situation at Ibrox leaves me a lot less tolerant, and it's probably best that i keep my actions as much as possible to reading what's been said on here for a while rather than risk pissing off the members that i do have some respect for.

Helix wrote: »

i dont think ive ever seen eirebear post anything vaguely resembling hate or narrow minded views on here. on the other hand ive seen one post from you and you've already outdone him on that front

To be fair, i have got carried away with things once or twice on here. But it's certainly not my default style.