Time Travel In Relation To The Past ?

essem 6590 ganne wrote: »

We'll only ever be able to travel back to the time when the time machine was invented, so the person who invents it won't be able to go anywhere. (well, when he turns it on, steps inside, and waits 60 mins, he'll have travelled an hour into the future, but then he can go back an hour from there)

No. If the time machine was built 1,000 years in the future of which had the capability of travelling back in time then it's a different ballgame in relation to your comment.

But who is to say this would be the case ?. Some say that past present and future exists all at one time but forks of passage to the past could be irregular as in different dimensional shifts regarding time, as hard as that is to envision.
But lets think outside the box for a minute. If a time machine has the capability of travelling forward and backwards in time no matter how far in the future it was built, wouldn't that mean a time machine could be visiting us now from the far future ?.

If it could go back to any time in the past, then why could it not visit us at this time even though it doesn't exist now.

Spunge wrote: »

If time travel to any point in the past was ever possible in the infinite future surely we would have records or proof of this in the past or to the extreme level we'd already have crap loads of time machines coz so many people already travelled into our past from our future.

That's a very good point. But who's to know it didn't happen, or happening now ? as is said...never interfere with the space time continuum ? surely that would be upheld by any visiting persons from the future from destabilising a world ? who knows but it would make sense.

Maybe there is a prime directive not to interfere with the past in any way, makes sense as a protocol regarding the seriousness of doing such a thing.

And who's to say it hasn't happened in our past ?. We have a strange history of which is not all known.

Scientists were seriously damaged in the past from saying the earth is round, But hey, the earth is round. Scientists of the time again were ridiculed when they said the earth orbits around the sun, they paid for that one of which held science back a long time. This idea of 'things are set' is an old stigma of drudgery.

They say faster than the speed of light is impossible, well, that will be proven in time that it can be defeated just like everything in our past. The sun goes around the earth to most folk, and heavier than air flight is madness, also we are the centre of the universe.

The box can only hold enough monkey's before it bursts with new thinking and enlightenment of such possibilities in time travel.

@ spunge

Yeah but the people who do this prime directive would have to police an infinite amount of time, or at least the length of the universe.

I think if they were tinkering with a planets life, they would (or should I say we, as they would be us in the future, humans) be damn careful not to interfere too much.

Lets see what the hadron collider can provide us all with as it's going to be doubly powered in 2015 with their new powerful spec. It's this that might get us closer.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The general theory I've heard, which has some convincing scientific basis to back it up, is that if a time machine was built, time travel forwards and backwards would be possible but for a quantum reason I can't remember, it would be almost impossible to build a machine which could go back to a time before it was built. So in other words, once a time machine exists, travel in both directions will be possible but only as far back as the moment of that particular machine's creation.

If this is indeed the case, I can foresee a scenario in which time machines are aged like wine and become more valuable as they get older, whereas brand new machines will be considered junk.

But what about past/present and future intermingled in a loop dimensionally speaking if true ? but just on a different frequency outside our physical reality ?. I have heard of the electron being in two places at the same time, what do we make of this ? it's a strange mechanic of quantum thinking.

Who says that a matter machine needs to be built to transport individual/s from future to past ? maybe a stable energy vortex shield surrounding a person/persons that has the capability of keeping these folk in a plasma form situation with life support that can travel not only through physical matter but warp them electrically in a nano-second to their destination ?. Yes it is out there on planet pluto I agree, but so is the universe so anything is possible.