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NBP: National Broadband Plan Announced

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  • #752
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    *cue all the rural users of this subforum rightly exploding*


  • #753
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭rob808


    Capital Plan: Initial €275 million broadband allocation “demonstrates commitment to conclusively deal with Ireland’s connectivity challenge”





    Tuesday, 29 September 2015



    Minister for Communications Alex White today (Tuesday) welcomed the capital investment plan allocation of €275 million for the National Broadband Plan. He said the funding would provide the initial stimulus required to deliver high speed broadband access to every home, school and business by 2020.



    Minister White said the €275 million did not represent the full cost of the National Broadband Plan (NBP) which would likely be spread over 20 years, well beyond the period of the capital investment plan published today. The Government is on target to go to tender on the state intervention element of the NBP towards the end of 2015, and Minister White said he would not outline the total level of Government funding envisaged until the tender process was complete.



    Minister White said: “The capital plan funding announced today demonstrates the Government’s strong commitment to this important project, which aims to conclusively deal with Ireland’s connectivity challenges and put us at the top of the international league for quality high-speed broadband. The €275 million will provide the initial stimulus for the early years of the state intervention under the National Broadband Plan.



    “This is an indication of the scale of the investment envisaged, but it is not the full cost. The full 20-year cost of the programme will emerge out of the tendering process, which will commence as planned at the end of this year. In the meantime I will not speculate about the final level of Government funding because, if I did, it could influence the tender process and drive the cost to the taxpayer up rather than down.”



    It is expected that the funds allocated today will be used to draw down EU funding of €75 million, which has already been agreed. The Department of Communications is also at an advanced stage of exploring the scope for further European funding through the European Investment Bank and the Ireland Strategic Investment Fund.



    Minister White said the NBP was on course to ensure that every home, school and business in Ireland had access to high-speed broadband by 2020, with 85% of premises covered by 2018. He said he would be able to proceed to formal procurement by the end of 2015, because all the milestones set for the delivery of the project had been met:



    · A draft Intervention Strategy was published for public consultation in July 2015, along with seven expert reports. Some 36 submissions were subsequently received from industry, local authorities, stakeholder groups and individuals


    · The Department of Communications has submitted its State Aid pre-notification to the European Commission in July 2015, as is required under EU rules


    · The Department is currently updating its high-speed broadband map to take account of new industry investment proposals, with a view to publishing an updated map later this year. The updated map will determine the final scope of the required state intervention to deliver high-speed broadband access to areas that will not be served by commercial providers.


    ENDS



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  • #754
    garroff
    Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭garroff


    We will have to remind our TDs of what they promised when they run past our doors before the election!!!


  • #755
    ACLFC7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭ACLFC7


    When he says "promising that 85pc of premises will be covered by 2018
    Is that 85% of the total premises in Ireland or 85% of the premises which don't already have high speed broadband


  • #756
    dbit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭dbit


    Total cost to be spread over 20 years lol my son is 7 hell be 27 by the time they finish and hopefully not living in ireland . Jaysus piss up in a brewery.


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  • #757
    dbit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭dbit


    NBP the national broadband proposal , The indecent proposal . Man its sucks being Irish right now. No hasle with the banks getting fast connections.


  • #758
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭rob808


    ACLFC7 wrote: »
    When he says "promising that 85pc of premises will be covered by 2018
    Is that 85% of the total premises in Ireland or 85% of the premises which don't already have high speed broadband
    yea he mean 85% of the NBP homes.It good that eir doing 300,000 houses.it give some hope for the another 400,000 homes the problem now is will eir and siro or even gigabite fibre be interested in bidding.


  • #759
    KOR101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    dbit wrote: »
    Total cost to be spread over 20 years lol my son is 7 hell be 27 by the time they finish and hopefully not living in ireland . Jaysus piss up in a brewery.
    Maybe all this means is that there will be an annual government subsidy element for the NBP customers, and less of an upfront payment, and no change to the rollout schedule That's the optimistic take.


  • #760
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    It looks like openeir's masterstroke of releasing a map with some blue lines drawn on it has succeeded in taking those areas out of the NBP. Now they may be free to connect these areas if and when they see fit without fear of penalty clauses or government fines for missing deadlines. Remember broadbandtoz?


  • #761
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Maybe all this means is that there will be an annual government subsidy element for the NBP customers, and less of an upfront payment, and no change to the rollout schedule That's the optimistic take.

    You are correct I believe. The twenty years is referring to the financing of the project not the actual connecting of premises.


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  • #762
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭rob808


    Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: »
    You are correct I believe. The twenty years is referring to the financing of the project not the actual connecting of premises.
    yea there not giving the full figure until the tendering finish.


  • #763
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    ACLFC7 wrote: »
    When he says "promising that 85pc of premises will be covered by 2018
    Is that 85% of the total premises in Ireland or 85% of the premises which don't already have high speed broadband
    rob808 wrote: »
    yea he mean 85% of the NBP homes.It good that eir doing 300,000 houses.it give some hope for the another 400,000 homes the problem now is will eir and siro or even gigabite fibre be interested in bidding.

    No, I read it to mean 85% of all premises by 2018, that includes all premises already connected to Eircom FTTC and UPC cable.

    85% of all NBP premises by 2018 would be far too aggressive.
    dbit wrote: »
    Total cost to be spread over 20 years lol my son is 7 hell be 27 by the time they finish and hopefully not living in ireland . Jaysus piss up in a brewery.

    In fairness, no surprise with this, that is how all capital expenditure is funded. LUAS, DART, motorways, etc. are all paid for typically over 20 to 30 years.

    You borrow the money upfront (our staggered over a few years of the construction) and then pay it off over 20 years, not much different from how a mortgage work. It makes a lot of sense given how low government bods are at the moment, it is almost free money.

    Note, this doesn't mean it will take 20 years to rollout, just to pay back.


  • #764
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I just knew it, that the government would start stalling on this or cutting funding. An insane decision just like the decision to bin the plans for the dart underground.

    While government spending goes into other areas which I won't name wasting so much of tax payers money. This really makes my blood boil.

    With this big cut on the NBP they will probably opt for some cheap alternative.

    I am so lucky that my home will be one of the 300,000 to get Eir FTTH at some point over the next 5 years as I wouldn't like to be banking on this NBP.


  • #765
    MajesticDonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I am so lucky that my home will be one of the 300,000 to get Eir FTTH at some point over the next 5 years as I wouldn't like to be banking on this NBP.

    Except that there's absolutely no requirement on Eir to provide you with that service within 5 years...that's the issue this has caused.


  • #766
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    MajesticDonkey wrote: »
    Except that there's absolutely no requirement on Eir to provide you with that service within 5 years...that's the issue this has caused.

    Exactly, it is tactically brilliant by eir. Make it uneconomic for others to bid on the areas and you control the countryside. All with a few blue lines.


  • #767
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    MajesticDonkey wrote: »
    Except that there's absolutely no requirement on Eir to provide you with that service within 5 years...that's the issue this has caused.

    I think the reason they made the blue lines was not to lose out on a large market share over the next 50 to 100 years if the NBP was awarding all these areas to some other company. They've already lost most of Dublin to UPC/Virgin Media.

    This time around I do have faith that Eir will roll out their FTTH to most promised locations over the next 5 years tho it could stretch into 2021 or even 2022.


  • #768
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    MajesticDonkey wrote: »
    Except that there's absolutely no requirement on Eir to provide you with that service within 5 years...that's the issue this has caused.

    There's a lot of blue on that map. Seems very ambitious but I sense 'slippage' alright. I'm too cynical perhaps, but then I've spent years dealing with Eircom both at business and consumer level. An old dog doesn't learn new tricks. :eek:


  • #769
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭rob808


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I think the reason they made the blue lines was not to lose out on a large market share over the next 50 to 100 years if the NBP was awarding all these areas to some other company. They've already lost most of Dublin to UPC/Virgin Media.

    This time around I do have faith that Eir will roll out their FTTH to most promised locations over the next 5 years tho it could stretch into 2021 or even 2022.
    The goverment just need to update the map so I can see if I'm getting FTTH of eir :)


  • #770
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    ED E wrote: »
    *cue all the rural users of this subforum rightly exploding*

    scrubs-head-explode-o.gif


  • #771
    corsav6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭corsav6


    ACLFC7 wrote: »
    When he says "promising that 85pc of premises will be covered by 2018
    Is that 85% of the total premises in Ireland or 85% of the premises which don't already have high speed broadband

    Taken from NBP website.

    "The Intervention Strategy proposes that 60% of the premises in the Intervention Area are covered by December 2018 (85% of the country) and 100% by December 2020."

    My own house falls within the NBP area so looking like a few more years before I can upgrade from westnets 2mb wisp.


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  • #772
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    MBSnr wrote: »
    There's a lot of blue on that map. Seems very ambitious but I sense 'slippage' alright. I'm too cynical perhaps, but then I've spent years dealing with Eircom both at business and consumer level. An old dog doesn't learn new tricks. :eek:

    As much as Ive hated Eircom over the years, they are a completely different animal to the company we saw holding onto 56k/ISDN for years and their hi-speed adverts back in the day! If they can FTTC the country in 3 years then they can definitely FTTH the blue lines by end of 2020. I just hope im much closer to 2017 than 2020!


  • #773
    dbit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭dbit


    Gonzo wrote: »
    As much as Ive hated Eircom over the years, they are a completely different animal to the company we saw holding onto 56k/ISDN for years and their hi-speed adverts back in the day! If they can FTTC the country in 3 years then they can definitely FTTH the blue lines by end of 2020. I just hope im much closer to 2017 than 2020!

    I hold my breath , ready to scream take my money !!.


  • #774
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    So lets call a spade a spade all of us who don't currently have line broadband and are not passed by the Eir fibre blue line .... will we realistically get served within this decade?... or are we talking the decade after realistically?


  • #775
    wexfordman2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭wexfordman2


    Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: »
    It looks like openeir's masterstroke of releasing a map with some blue lines drawn on it has succeeded in taking those areas out of the NBP. Now they may be free to connect these areas if and when they see fit without fear of penalty clauses or government fines for missing deadlines. Remember broadbandtoz?

    Mm,

    I had a look at the eir map with the blue lines.

    I am approx in an island with blue lines 2km away to the east of me, and 2k to the west of me.

    That surely has to kill the viability of ftth in my area even via the nbp ?

    Unless of course if the nbp areas are allowed to piggyback on top of eirs rural fibre network and just extend it out ?


  • #776
    KOR101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    wexfordman2 wrote: »
    Mm,

    I had a look at the eir map with the blue lines.

    I am approx in an island with blue lines 2km away to the east of me, and 2k to the west of me.

    That surely has to kill the viability of ftth in my area even via the nbp ?

    Unless of course if the nbp areas are allowed to piggyback on top of eirs rural fibre network and just extend it out ?
    But, not the viability for Eir. It does reduce it for their competitors which is the point.


  • #777
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I just knew it, that the government would start stalling on this or cutting funding. An insane decision just like the decision to bin the plans for the dart underground.

    While government spending goes into other areas which I won't name wasting so much of tax payers money. This really makes my blood boil.

    With this big cut on the NBP they will probably opt for some cheap alternative.

    I am so lucky that my home will be one of the 300,000 to get Eir FTTH at some point over the next 5 years as I wouldn't like to be banking on this NBP.

    Should have come as no surprise to anyone. It would not be Irish Government if there wasn't promises made that are then reigned back in.

    This government is operating a very clear model of short term planning, to put things in place that are new and shiny quickly, so they can lay their claim to it, and not leave something to be finished when another government might be in power.

    It's a totally political decision, and the typical short term, power securing moves that keep so many areas of this country stuck in a cycle of "out dated".

    Broadband really isn't a hot topic for them that would give them enough kudos if it went through, or cause enough ruptions if it didnt. So no surprise the funding got slashed by nearly 50%.

    This government is clearly going to dump a load of wasted money on the City Centre to Dublin Airport connection, which is a total waste of money, but is something new and shiny that can probably be completed within the next lifetime of government(which most likely will be FG in part) so they can reap the credit when it finishes.

    It's just another item on a long list of things that were promised, reigned back in, and evidence of this government being a total spoof about change and longterm planning. They are pretty clueless when left to their own devices.


  • #778
    jd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    TheDoc wrote: »
    This government is clearly going to dump a load of wasted money on the City Centre to Dublin Airport connection, which is a total waste of money, but is something new and shiny that can probably be completed within the next lifetime of government(which most likely will be FG in part) so they can reap the credit when it finishes.
    Eh no, metro north goes back into planning and a new railway order, so construction can't start for another 4 or so years. It's be 2025 at the earliest before it would be finished (and to be fair, it serves a lot more than the airport, but the DU should have proceeded) Only new rail construction to start in next 5 years is Malahide to Balbriggan electrification.


  • #779
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Am I reading things incorrectly, because I see no 'rolling back' of promises.

    There was a committment of some €510 million for NBP when the NBP coverage was to have been ~700,000 premises.


    Both eir and Siro have indicated that they will (commercially) provide service to a good part of those premises. Eir have said 300,000 I believe, so let us say Siro does an extra 100,000 (to allow for dual supply to some).


    So that leaves the gov to support connection to 300k premises and not the 700k.


    That surely deserves a reduction in the estimate of the cost of supporting the NBP?

    ...... or am I misinterpreting things? .....


  • #780
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭rob808


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Am I reading things incorrectly, because I see no 'rolling back' of promises.

    There was a committment of some €510 million for NBP when the NBP coverage was to have been ~700,000 premises.


    Both eir and Siro have indicated that they will (commercially) provide service to a good part of those premises. Eir have said 300,000 I believe, so let us say Siro does an extra 100,000 (to allow for dual supply to some).


    So that leaves the gov to support connection to 300k premises and not the 700k.


    That surely deserves a reduction in the estimate of the cost of supporting the NBP?

    ...... or am I misinterpreting things? .....
    well siro hasn't said anything about doing rural houses they are interested in NBP.I don't think siro will bother with rural Ireland if they don't win any of the NBP.


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  • #781
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Am I reading things incorrectly, because I see no 'rolling back' of promises.

    There was a committment of some €510 million for NBP when the NBP coverage was to have been ~700,000 premises.


    Both eir and Siro have indicated that they will (commercially) provide service to a good part of those premises. Eir have said 300,000 I believe, so let us say Siro does an extra 100,000 (to allow for dual supply to some).


    So that leaves the gov to support connection to 300k premises and not the 700k.


    That surely deserves a reduction in the estimate of the cost of supporting the NBP?

    ...... or am I misinterpreting things? .....

    I reckon your right, the latest 'cut' in NBP estimated spending is taking 300,000 homes and business out of the equation as Eir have 'promised' to handle that. The NBP is now down to approx 400,000 instead of 700,000 premises. I have a feeling that SIRO have no interest in anything remotely rural unless they get government funding, For now I suspect that SIRO will continue to just focus on county towns and larger urban areas.


  • #782
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I reckon your right, the latest 'cut' in NBP estimated spending is taking 300,000 homes and business out of the equation as Eir have 'promised' to handle that. The NBP is now down to approx 400,000 instead of 700,000 premises. I have a feeling that SIRO have no interest in anything remotely rural unless they get government funding, For now I suspect that SIRO will continue to just focus on county towns and larger urban areas.

    The reason I included Siro in my estimate was this
    The government’s original estimate of 700,000 premises may be cut short by subsequent announcements from Eir and Siro, the joint venture between Vodafone and the ESB. Both companies have indicated that they will cover more rural homes and businesses than originally planned, thus reducing the size of the catchment area envisaged by the state-subsidised National Broadband Plan.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/government-shaves-over-200m-off-initial-national-broadband-plan-spend-cut-to-275m-31567889.html

    I do not have any other reference for the Siro 'announcement'.


  • #783
    KOR101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    The reason I included Siro in my estimate was this



    http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/government-shaves-over-200m-off-initial-national-broadband-plan-spend-cut-to-275m-31567889.html

    I do not have any other reference for the Siro 'announcement'.
    Yes,that's a puzzle.


  • #784
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    If, between Siro and eir, they have taken 400k premises out of the 700k total, that leaves 300k for NBP.

    The gov had promised

    €millions ..... Premises

    510 .............. 700k

    so for 300k premises that would equate to

    510/700*300 == 218.57 ..... say 220 million

    By now saying the amount is 275 million it does seem that the gov might have increased the € per connection, which would definitely be required as those with easier access have already been taken out of the 700k.

    If Siro do not intend to provide service (commercially) to any of the 700k total then the pro-rata figure from gov should be approx
    €300 million and not €275 as announced.

    In truth, it seems someone has done something right if the required tax payers contribution is falling.

    (yes I find that difficult to believe too :D )


  • #785
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭rob808


    Well siro are planing on doing small towns and villages in phase 2 so some of them might be in NBP areas which would decrease the NBP foot print.
    The thing is we won't know until phase 1 finish siro are slow with annoucement.I say there gona be targeting FTTC areas in phase 2 so probably be a small chance they do adsl exchange in a rural town or village with a small population.


  • #786
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    rob808 wrote: »
    Well siro are planing on doing small towns and villages in phase 2 so some of them might be in NBP areas which would decrease the NBP foot print.
    The thing is we won't know until phase 1 finish siro are slow with annoucement.I say there gona be targeting FTTC areas in phase 2 so probably be a small chance they do adsl exchange in a rural town or village with a small population.

    I suppose it is possible they have indicated to gov they will do some of the 700k as a commercial roll out, without releasing the info publicly.


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  • #787
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    jd wrote: »
    Eh no, metro north goes back into planning and a new railway order, so construction can't start for another 4 or so years. It's be 2025 at the earliest before it would be finished (and to be fair, it serves a lot more than the airport, but the DU should have proceeded) Only new rail construction to start in next 5 years is Malahide to Balbriggan electrification.

    I probably won't remember to say I told you so, but when it happens it might pop back as a "oh yeah your man said that"

    There has been a few changes in the last two weeks I'm struggling to keep up, but Metro North got canned and the focus was shifting to a city centre airport connection that could be done quickly, a bit cheaper, and be a new shiny for the government to be in office to say they made.

    They got some pressure rightly from the transport agencies to stop being ****ing morons, and it was a clear political scoring exercise, so they re-introduced metro north and an expanded City to Airport route.

    But I would 99.9% expect that plan to change again before ground is broken, and probably on the QT also.

    As a Fingal resident, I'm hearing plans about Metro North for about 10 years....


  • #788
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Am I reading things incorrectly, because I see no 'rolling back' of promises.

    There was a committment of some €510 million for NBP when the NBP coverage was to have been ~700,000 premises.


    Both eir and Siro have indicated that they will (commercially) provide service to a good part of those premises. Eir have said 300,000 I believe, so let us say Siro does an extra 100,000 (to allow for dual supply to some).


    So that leaves the gov to support connection to 300k premises and not the 700k.


    That surely deserves a reduction in the estimate of the cost of supporting the NBP?

    ...... or am I misinterpreting things? .....

    The allocated funding has been cut in near half. The whole purpose of the government funding was for them to make it viable for development in rural areas, as it would not be viable for two commercial entities to do it.

    It's like if you join into a public/private partnership for a bus route. You need the state money to put in place the infrastructure and framework as its a benefit for the state and citizens, and not viable for a private company to do this. But when the framework is put in place, it becomes commercially viable for a private entity to service the area. And the public part is happy a private(and in theory more lean and efficent) body is doing it.

    That the funding has been cut in half does not tell to me that it's down to Eir and Siro saying they can handle X amount.

    To me it comes across as the government seeing it would be a quicker win to focus on the areas of higher density, and probably where the private companies have outlined there will be higher catchment and benefit.

    This government have shut down post offices, Guarda stations and other rural services in low density areas, to focus resourcing and funds to higher density catchment areas.

    Let's get real here, they are not going to provide half a billion in funding for broadband in rural areas, when they can't get a police station there and funded.

    Coupled with the Finance Minister probably deliverying some reality checks the last month, and seeing where money can be cut on projects so it can be given away in a budget to buy the next general election, this cut in funding to me is VERY MUCH a reigning in of an ambitious but beneficial plan, to revert to the normal Irish political cycle of over promise, under deliver, heres a few quid in the budget, you'll be grand.

    As a final point I would say it's entirely possible as you outline, that the commerical arm of this project is upping it's resourcing and catchment, therefore reducing the figures the government has to budget for. And that is very much what the obvious thing is. But there is enough evidence over the course of countless government projects and private partnerships, that it's a total mess and misallocation of resources, and it's usually someone who has gotten a call from the Minister for Finance or Public Expenditure to chill the **** out and reign that **** in.


  • #789
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,668 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    http://www.dcenr.gov.ie/communications/en-ie/Broadband/Pages/Latest-News.aspx


  • #790
    ACLFC7
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    Not much news in that report. Hoping to see the updated map as soon as possiple


  • #791
    The Cush
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    ACLFC7 wrote: »
    Hoping to see the updated map as soon as possiple

    Expected before the start of the procurement process in Dec

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=97198583


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  • #792
    rob808
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    ACLFC7 wrote: »
    Not much news in that report. Hoping to see the updated map as soon as possiple
    yea me to wanna see if I'm on eir FTTH rollout the blue line end at my gate but doesn't go pass it so fingers crossed I get it.


  • #793
    Gonzo
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    rob808 wrote: »
    yea me to wanna see if I'm on eir FTTH rollout the blue line end at my gate but doesn't go pass it so fingers crossed I get it.

    if the line goes as far as your gate then you'll probably get it, are there houses past your gate with no blue line?


  • #794
    rob808
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    Gonzo wrote: »
    if the line goes as far as your gate then you'll probably get it, are there houses past your gate with no blue line?
    yea there house beside me and about 3 others up the road.


  • #795
    dalta5billion
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    Imagine (remember them?) are promoting something on Facebook, implying in the comments it's part of the National Broadband Plan. This can't be true, I don't think it's even gone to tender yet.

    https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153303304140787&id=118081615786

    They say they'll be using wireless solutions but are calling it "fibre connect".....
    Claiming between 30 and 100 Mbps.
    Claim Eir may not even roll out their fibre solution.
    Hopefully homes won't get taken out of the NBP because of Imagine.


  • #796
    roast
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    dalta5billion wrote: »
    Imagine (remember them?) are promoting something on Facebook, implying in the comments it's part of the National Broadband Plan. This can't be true, I don't think it's even gone to tender yet.

    https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153303304140787&id=118081615786

    They say they'll be using wireless solutions but are calling it "fibre connect".....
    Claiming between 30 and 100 Mbps.
    Claim Eir may not even roll out their fibre solution.
    Hopefully homes won't get taken out of the NBP because of Imagine.

    Interesting... Post has been taken down.


  • #797
    The Cush
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    roast wrote: »
    Interesting... Post has been taken down.

    Is this it - https://www.facebook.com/imaginewimax/posts/10153303304140787


  • #798
    ACLFC7
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    dalta5billion wrote: »
    Imagine (remember them?) are promoting something on Facebook, implying in the comments it's part of the National Broadband Plan. This can't be true, I don't think it's even gone to tender yet.

    https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153303304140787&id=118081615786

    They say they'll be using wireless solutions but are calling it "fibre connect".....
    Claiming between 30 and 100 Mbps.
    Claim Eir may not even roll out their fibre solution.
    Hopefully homes won't get taken out of the NBP because of Imagine.
    The Cush wrote: »
    Is this it - https://www.facebook.com/imaginewimax/posts/10153303304140787

    ****! I live in Kildare and I've seen signs for Imagine near my house in the last 2 weeks. They even mention "National Broadband Plan" in the comments on the Facebook post.
    This better not be the long term solution. :mad:


  • #799
    roast
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    The Cush wrote: »
    Is this it - https://www.facebook.com/imaginewimax/posts/10153303304140787

    Thanks.

    Christ!
    ACLFC7 wrote: »
    ****! I live in Kildare and I've seen signs for Imagine near my house in the last 2 weeks. They even mention "National Broadband Plan" in the comments on the Facebook post.
    This better not be the long term solution. :mad:

    For them, I'd say so, but this is probably their attempt at proving a concept to submit for tender.


  • #800
    ACLFC7
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    roast wrote: »
    Thanks.

    Christ!



    For them, I'd say so, but this is probably their attempt at proving a concept to submit for tender.

    I don't mean to be complaining about 30mbps( depending on coverage) but in 3 or 5 years time I imagine (see what i did there) this will be considered very slow.


  • #801
    roast
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    ACLFC7 wrote: »
    I don't mean to mean complaining about 30mbps( depending on coverage) but in 3 or 5 years time I imagine (see what i did there) this will be considered very slow.

    Agreed, but I'd much prefer fixed wireless @ 100Mb instead of dodgy 4g/3g as a solution for the few % of places that can't be served by fibre.

    I just hate that marketing strategy. Eircom called VDSL Fibre, now Imagine are claiming they can supply "Fibre speeds".
    I wonder if some of these marketing chaps even know the definition.


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