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Schols Schols Schols, information and venting thread.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI


    We haven't had a CS schol since they ****ed up the curriculum to turn it into a glorified web-design course. Last guy to get it was Brazil in 2003..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,196 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    2004 rather dude, and as far as I remember Nick Nash and one other got it in that year too. 2005 schols was the year above me and no one got it, and one person in my year missed out my a small amount.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭dan719


    Time for bringing a thread back from the dead methinks.
    That's right, who else will be in the library until ten o'clock every night?
    Giving up alcohol and taking up smoking instead?
    Staring at the pav from the ussher thinking 'that shoulda been me'.
    I guess I'll start;
    Intermediate Econ
    Econ of Irl
    Econ of Public Policy
    General Essay Paper
    Algebra
    Analysis 2
    Stats 2

    Looks like the above are going to be dominating my life from Jan onwards.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mathew


    Engineering...
    Which includes:
    Maths
    Computers
    Civil Eg
    Mech Eng
    Elec Eng

    Gonna be fair bit of work....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Aye. I haven't been studying at a schols level at all so far this year. Between now and beginning of next term I will be putting in as many hours as possible in the library down here (Wexford) covering what we've done so far and getting it proper sorted, and hopefully putting myself a bit ahead. Then it's bye bye Pav, hello Berkely. Hopefully it's not too late. How about you guys, have you been putting in tat extra study?

    Anywho, Law which AFAIK entails:
    Constitutional Law II
    Contract Law
    EC Law
    Criminal Law
    Tort Law


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Sir Ophiuchus


    TSM English & Psychology

    English

    Paper 1: Critical & Cultural Theory / Romance
    Paper 2: Romanticism & Revolution / Literature & Sexualities / The Hero in English Literature, 1660-1830 / Writing Ireland
    Paper 3: Victorianism / Introduction to Postcolonial Literature and Theory / America and the U.S.

    Psychology

    Paper 1: Developmental Psychology
    Paper 2: Perception
    Paper 3: Social Psychology
    Paper 4: Practicals, Methodology & Statistics I
    Paper 5: Option


    ...

    *cries*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Computer Science.

    Maths
    Programming
    Hardware
    Programming Practical
    Hardware Practical

    BRING IT THE FÚCK ON!


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭Adventure


    What are Fellows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Kwekubo




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭d93c2inhxfok4y


    Aye. I haven't been studying at a schols level at all so far this year. Between now and beginning of next term I will be putting in as many hours as possible in the library down here (Wexford) covering what we've done so far and getting it proper sorted, and hopefully putting myself a bit ahead. Then it's bye bye Pav, hello Berkely. Hopefully it's not too late. How about you guys, have you been putting in tat extra study?

    Anywho, Law which AFAIK entails:
    Constitutional Law II
    Contract Law
    EC Law
    Criminal Law
    Tort Law

    Big up the Wexford massive!
    Where abouts in Wexford are you from, and what year are you in? I've a few wexfordian mates doing law in first year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Big up the Wexford massive!
    Where abouts in Wexford are you from, and what year are you in? I've a few wexfordian mates doing law in first year.
    Out near Kilmore. Nailer, I've definitely heard that name before! I think I may know (or have known at some stage) a few of your group. (Including one guy I used to argue with about communism a lot on Bebo, wouldn't happen to be you would it?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭d93c2inhxfok4y


    Out near Kilmore. Nailer, I've definitely heard that name before! I think I may know (or have known at some stage) a few of your group. (Including one guy I used to argue with about communism a lot on Bebo, wouldn't happen to be you would it?)

    Haha, it would indeed! Conor/Nailer, whatever suits really, but yeah, im the guy who had many a heated debate with you over the pros and cons of communism on bebo. Alan, right?
    Small e-world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Odd, I was thinking of bringing this thread up just the other day...

    CSLF:
    Mathematics
    Computer Programming - Java, C++, and some NLP...
    French Written Language Competence
    Linguistics I - Formal Semantics and Formal Syntax
    Linguistics II - Phonetics, Phonology and Speech Science

    Alcohol is gone as of when I wake up on Thursday. Socialising will be down to once a week at most. Lunch will be 20 mins maximum. And I'll be in at 9 every day (maybe not those whaere I have a class at 10. May afford myself a "lie-in", for the sake of sanity, those/that day(s).

    Think the Ussher will be my haunt for the next 3 months. 1st floor. Anyone else?

    Bring the fucking ruckus...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Haha, it would indeed! Conor/Nailer, whatever suits really, but yeah, im the guy who had many a heated debate with you over the pros and cons of communism on bebo. Alan, right?
    Small e-world.
    Alan is right. Small e-world indeed, including the Button Factory if you remember! Odd that. Anyone I'd know in 1st year law? And what are you at yourself these days?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Gallardo


    Hey I'm in 2nd year TP. Only two months left to get organised for the schols. The only problem is I'm having problems that require councelling etc. now. This is affecting my study, concentration. Did anyone else have any similar problems but manage to pull through and get schols??? Geometry and mechanics are so damn hard lol. Does anyone who got schols find that they were such difficult subjects? Keep losing concentration when I start studying them. What were peoples methods for going about these subjects. I'd say so many more people are going to go for schols now that the fees are rising.
    Cheers and good luck, :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭antiselfdual


    Gallardo wrote: »
    Geometry and mechanics are so damn hard lol. Does anyone who got schols find that they were such difficult subjects?

    Ah Geometry and Mechanics. Good times. Yeah everybody found them difficult, at least the exams were kind of predictable (do past papers do past papers do past papers do past papers). The trick with Geometry was just to keep writing out and learning off the proofs and eventually they started to sink in; with Mechanics kind of the same, a lot of the questions became a lot more doable once you already had solutions and spent ages going through them. I also liked to make and remake loads of notes... They are tough subjects though. Good luck! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Anyone done the French schol? I just read some literature today that was, for me, the first mention of an oral exam. *gulp*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭claire h


    Good luck vibes to you all...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 phalaris


    Pitseleh wrote: »
    Hmmm... Is it good idea to e-mail lecturers and attempt to forge some kind of 'rapport' with them, ask them what readings they'd espoecially recommend etc.?

    yes, it's the best idea. be sure to keep your dignity though, there's nothing worse than a student blatantly licking a lecturer's ass.
    but they really should know at least your name and your intention to do schols well in advance. you should only pester them about actual questions relating to specific material, don't go up for "a chat about schols" but do mention it in passing. if they see that you are genuinely keen to get an in-depth understanding of the material and if they know you are going for schols they will help you out for sure. i got plenty of priceless advice from my lecturers including additional reading, correcting extra questions, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    Tort law.
    Legal Systems and Methods.
    Constitutional Law 1.
    Constitutional Law 2.
    Contract.

    See you all March 10th! :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Sir Ophiuchus


    Has anyone here done schols in English Lit or Psychology before?

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭claire h


    English-y tips: oh, god, the exams are scary. But fun. But scary. But fun. The questions are usually pretty vague rather than super-specific in terms of texts, but sometimes difficult - know a fair bit about the context of the texts you're looking at so as to be able to make the questions work for you, and keep an eye out in the past papers for the sections where questions tend to be of a 'answer with reference to any TWO texts' sort.

    Also, and this is just my personal opinion (and because I suck at literary theory): you've a better chance of being able to impress the markers with a close reading of a text than by answering questions which require a more general overview of an entire field. My logic for this is that the people marking are always going to know more about, say, Literature and Sexuality or American Literature or whatever, because it's probably what they've written books on or taught since the dawn of time, but you do have a decent chance of bringing new insights to a text (or a new synthesis of previous criticism, or whatever).

    And it helps a lot to be super-enthusiastic about the texts you're writing about - so pick the ones you really like (regardless of length; also easier to find new things to say about the long ones) rather than going for a 'oh, I bet everyone's going to look at Text X, I'll do this one to be different!' kind of approach.

    I think I've probably said it somewhere on this thread before, but Schols-studying can sometimes be fun and a chance to be a little self-indulgent in your reading, so I really hope that you find that at least a teeny-tiny bit in between the inevitable nervous breakdowns et al. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    2 and a half weeks to go no. Anyone know what the story is with timetables?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mathew


    obl wrote: »
    2 and a half weeks to go no. Anyone know what the story is with timetables?

    I asked in the Exam office and they said Timetables will be out on Wednesday..


    Are Scholars allowed to graze sheep in fellows square??
    I know you'd probably have to be in your gown, with your sword too... but is it still one of the benefits??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    According to the talk in the Ed Burke berfore Christmas, all that stuff is just nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mathew


    oh.. :(
    I thought it was still somewhere in the regulations... a bit like the one to do with getting a glass of Port in exams... again I dont know the details.. and I believe you have to be in full attire with sword and all..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭claire h


    It's a Trinity variation on this idea - http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/cakesale.asp - but alas untrue.

    The sheep were devastated when they herd.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,258 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Technically some variation of these laws may still exist in the old college charters (which are still in latin) but its highly unlikely. Either way, I think they are currently rewriting the charters to bring them up to date, so these supposed privileges will then be gone. Tbh, free accomodation and food was more then enough for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Technically some variation of these laws may still exist in the old college charters (which are still in latin) but its highly unlikely.
    Technically the Charters of Elizabeth (Foundation Charter) and of Charles (1636 iirc) were translated from Latin to English at the request of some over-enthusiastic JF student a few years ago ;). They've been posted on this forum before and have no reference to those Scholarship rules.
    Either way, I think they are currently rewriting the charters to bring them up to date, so these supposed privileges will then be gone. Tbh, free accomodation and food was more then enough for me!
    The Charters can (afaik) only be changed by the Crown. They're changing the Statutes, which were last updated in 1966, and contain no such silly sheep-grazing laws. There are some silly rules, but nothing that ridiculous.

    Conclusion: tourist trap.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,258 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Ah right, clearly I got mixed up so. I was never really under the impression that we had any peculiar rights or privileges though - its an absurdly common myth with regards to several universities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭bright


    VENT: Fcuking exams. That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Sir Ophiuchus


    Aaaaaaaaagh bloody exams, I feel like I've done no work at all! Gah!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭claire h


    Good vibes, good vibes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Anyone else spend a day in the library and feel like they know everything, then the next day feel like they know absolutely nothing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Well, I don't study in the Library, but yeah. I keep fluctating between thinking it'll be doable and impossible....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mathew


    obl wrote: »
    Anyone else spend a day in the library and feel like they know everything, then the next day feel like they know absolutely nothing?

    yep.. exact same happens to me...
    Im sure itll all work out...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Sir Ophiuchus


    *breathes deeply*

    You're right, you're right.

    Spent the day working on questions in the library, and I feel way more positive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭rjt


    Timetables are up (at least, some of them are).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Only 2 years until I can do all this myself YAY!!!!!!!!!


    (This thing about exemptions no longer existing(That is true right?) nay.......(Old news, but I only heard recently))


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭cookiemonst3r


    Got my timetable today...Geometry is on Friday the 13th!! thank God I'm not superstitious

    Not sure if this has been asked already but what happens if you apply to do schols but don't turn up to the exams??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Ron DMC


    Not sure if this has been asked already but what happens if you apply to do schols but don't turn up to the exams??

    You get an automatic fail and it's frowned upon. If you decide not to do them you can knock in to the examinations office beforehand and withdraw, not sure of the date though. I applied and withdrew two separate years by the way and look at me now (so don't worry, there's no shame in it.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭claire h


    Got my timetable today...Geometry is on Friday the 13th!! thank God I'm not superstitious

    Not sure if this has been asked already but what happens if you apply to do schols but don't turn up to the exams??

    Honestly, not much. No formal penalty. But if you're in a small class and you know you're not going to turn up, do make the effort and withdraw formally; you might be the only one sitting the paper and the only reason one has been drawn up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 who_cares


    Just got my timetable today.. and have to say its actually not too bad. I really should have started working a lot earlier though. What do you think chances are of getting a BESS schol with only a few weeks study?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mathew


    Yay. my timetable is all spread out.. lots of study time :)

    For those who were considering withdrawing, the deadline was today at 4pm..... :/


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,258 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    who_cares wrote: »
    Just got my timetable today.. and have to say its actually not too bad. I really should have started working a lot earlier though. What do you think chances are of getting a BESS schol with only a few weeks study?

    No one can answer that question except yourself. You're the only one who knows how much study you need to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭bright


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    No one can answer that question except yourself. You're the only one who knows how much study you need to do.

    Erroneous.

    OP-the answer to your question is 7 to 1 are your chances. Looking good.
    Glad to help. :pac:













    *This post is dedicated to Shay and his penchant for making lists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    My timetable sucks balls. Still have to find out where and when 2 of my exams will take place. And apparently there is now a CSLL Russian course...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Liquorice


    I have a slightly unsettling issue; too many notes made and not enough space in my brain for them! Or time to stretch the cranium to slot 'em all in. All that time wasted reading new stuff instead of revising.

    My timetable is a lot nicer than I was expecting from jamming two subjects together, no afternoon exams and not too many days in a row, although I will need an entire weekend of sleep after week 2. If Sir Ophiuchus is who I think he is, hello timetable buddy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Sir Ophiuchus


    Hello Áine. *waves*

    Yeah, the timetable is pretty good.


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