Midband speedtest Megaathread

watty · 10-07-2010 11:20am

LTE is a SEPARATE system. Basically the existing Mobile Phone operators may never have LTE.
(Note they are NOT primarily ISPs or Data operators, but Mobile PHONE networks. The internet data "piggy backs" on the Mobile Phone network, it's essentially faster dialup, but with Digital system rather than hybrid analogue/digital like old 56kbps dialup modems)

It needs new amps & aerials at Basestations because it needs a different band, incompatible with 3G/HSDPA/iHSPA/HSPA+ etc or GSM / EDGE.

It needs new Phones and Modems.

The operators need new bands and Licences.

Yes, the baseband gear at the basestation can run LTE software. But that is absolutely useless as they need to use that gear for 3G/HSDPA/iHSPA/HSPA+ on the 2100MHz for many years after LTE starts on a new band, till most people get LTE and they can switch off 3G/HSDPA/iHSPA/HSPA+ phone/Modem. Even then their existing channels are ONLY licenced for 3G. They would need to bid in an Auction for new licences. The current 3G band can only support one LTE operator so three of the four can't do LTE ever at 2100MHz.

T-Mobile/Orange or someone else could win the 1st LTE licences. Anyone could get the LTE licence for 2100MHz current 3G or 900MHz & 1800MHz GSMs when they expire.

Ignore the hype from 3 and Meteor etc about LTE. The existing 3G Mobile Operators* can't run it on their existing channels or licence and may never ever have LTE.
The higher speeds of 3G such as 14MBps and 21Mbps are for only ONE person using the sector and very close to mast < 3% of cell area and 42Mbps needs only one user using all of TWO sectors with perfect signal. Marketing Fantasy.

MIMO (Multiple In and Multiple Out, i.e. Multiple aerials) is only good for small city cells and is very much more expensive to install. It really creates multiple virtual sectors and doesn't increase peak speed at all. It increases capacity by allegedly x2 to x4, i.e. 20 users instead of 5 for near decent speeds. In reality most of the time the capacity increase is about 25% to 50%. Since more valuable mast space is needed (which may not exist) and the MIMO gear is expensive and they pay increased mast rent, don't expect very many cells at all to ever have MIMO. More marketing Hype.

(* Meteor, 3, O2 and Vodafone)

mayo.mick · 10-07-2010 5:12pm

my speed today, ( in rural caven ):(

jay93 · 11-07-2010 4:47pm

downwithpeace wrote: »

Wet, Windy and foggy at the moment.

I'm using the E5830 and when it says HSPA i still get random pings, with my old ZTE622 i use to be able to get 3Mb/s+ in the AM so when i was upgrading the modem to the E5830 i was told i should be able to get the max network speed around the same times but fastest i have seen it was just above 4Mb/s. Worth putting yours by the window, every little helps

weather was very bad this past few days internet was struggling to get fast speeds but i expect that anyways

do you use the wireless on the E5830 ?maybe your max speed is only 4mb/s beacause you are a good bit out from the mast im about 1-2km/s from the mast so usually get ok speeds pings etc but all depends who's online at the time!! lol yep i do have my modem by the window a good few times and notice a slight increase of speeds and pings heres a current test from a o2 modem i just unlocked a few mins ago for free yay

:) pings are gone down again as this modem supports HSPA

:)

jay93 · 11-07-2010 4:57pm

mayo.mick wrote: »

my speed today, ( in rural caven ):(

that sucks ping is useless must take an age to get through the internet was in cavan a while ago in mullagh to be exact very rural area near virginia had no signal on my tesco mobile phone (uses o2 network) no signal on my 3 broadband no meteor signal ..only network that worked was vodafone as they had a mast at the garda station in the village very useless area for communication :rolleyes::rolleyes: only signal was a GPRS internet signal no 3G so the vodafone modem in the house i was in was crawling along loading pages was such a chore

:p

downwithpeace · 11-07-2010 10:51pm

Been like this most of the day, not sure why but my nearest test server has jumped from Limerick to Dublin.
At these speeds it might be faster to invest in carrier pidgins.

warlikedave · 11-07-2010 11:40pm

downwithpeace wrote: »

Been like this most of the day, not sure why but my nearest test server has jumped from Limerick to Dublin.
At these speeds it might be faster to invest in carrier pidgins.

same jump happened for me but i still used the limerick server and got a better result - ithe jump could be down to ip/dns but only three would really know that answer

Have switched from the e5830 and am using the e180 and it seems more stable on HSPA altho the software doesnt show HSPA the ping is the main indicator

watty · 12-07-2010 5:24am

If ping is less than 130ms it would usually mean HSPA rather than HSDPA.

jay93 · 13-07-2010 5:41pm

has anyone on 3 ever got connected to the vodafone network if the 3 mast ever went down ..
the 3 cell went down for 20mins last night and it then went to green light and said GPRS voda IE (roaming) beside the signal i connected and it worked i know 3 dont have data agreement with vf but it was working for me no bother last night for me

downwithpeace · 13-07-2010 7:38pm

I had the Vodafone network listed before instead of three but it wouldn't connect.

jay93 · 14-07-2010 1:35am

Walkman · 14-07-2010 4:38pm

In Galway trying out a friends 3 modem, seems to be much better than when I first got it

warlikedave · 14-07-2010 5:14pm

jay93 wrote: »

I wants that

:mad:

My conncetion keeps failing and coming up with limited connectivity :mad:

Walkman · 14-07-2010 6:25pm

Another test....when is peak time so I can test it again?

warlikedave · 14-07-2010 7:01pm

Walkman wrote: »

Another test....when is peak time so I can test it again?

jesus that would be difficult depending on the demographics of teh users in your area

how many students using it, how many people logging in after coming home from work and when theya rre home and the numbers of unemployed...

Peak would be between 10am and 10pm jsut to be on a safe margin of error

jay93 · 14-07-2010 7:09pm

Walkman wrote: »

Another test....when is peak time so I can test it again?

them tests are good for during the day peak times 10am-10pm but when it gets real busy is about half 7 -10pm in the evening for me anyways..
is your connection not as good as this ?:o

jay93 · 14-07-2010 7:12pm

warlikedave wrote: »

I wants that :mad:

My conncetion keeps failing and coming up with limited connectivity :mad:

lol i can only usually get it that fast after 10pm at night before that it does be slower tough..your connection seems to be suffering today maybe there is a problem in your area with the local cell :mad::mad:
will test mine in about 15mins just waiting for downloads to finish

:D
i mostly wait till the speed goes upto 5-6mb at night before i bother to start bigger downloads cos it can take an age during the day

Walkman · 14-07-2010 7:53pm

Another one, I just noticed the time on the speedtest is an hour behind, I just did that one

jay93 · 14-07-2010 8:07pm

these are my peak time speeds not to bad could be alot worse can still use youtube witout it stopping to buffer

yep the speedtest website is hosted by speakeasy inc in the USA so the time is a hour behind the uk and ireland and other GMT areas as we put our clocks forward at diffeant times of the year :cool::cool:
interesting how the tests seems to maintaing 3.5-4mb/s must be a quiet cell :P

warlikedave · 14-07-2010 8:16pm

jay93 wrote: »

lol i can only usually get it that fast after 10pm at night before that it does be slower tough..your connection seems to be suffering today maybe there is a problem in your area with the local cell :mad::mad:
will test mine in about 15mins just waiting for downloads to finish :D
i mostly wait till the speed goes upto 5-6mb at night before i bother to start bigger downloads cos it can take an age during the day

my cell is fairly contended with users so the max i get these days is 2.7mbps - still speed isnt an issue - consistancy and decent pings is what i want ( and no I dont have afixed line option :P )

downwithpeace · 14-07-2010 10:16pm

Past few days the speeds have been all over the place, not good speeds at that. Using the ZTE622 because the E5830 has decided it doesn't want to work any more so i'm back to the lovely random disconnections tonight.

warlikedave · 14-07-2010 10:35pm

downwithpeace wrote: »

Past few days the speeds have been all over the place, not good speeds at that. Using the ZTE622 because the E5830 has decided it doesn't want to work any more so i'm back to the lovely random disconnections tonight.

Mine decided to freeze up as well but a good long charge via usb or plug with it off can solve that - battery is an odd thing in it - it can be green for weeks and then die all of a sudden so its worth taking note of

jay93 · 14-07-2010 11:12pm

warlikedave wrote: »

my cell is fairly contended with users so the max i get these days is 2.7mbps - still speed isnt an issue - consistancy and decent pings is what i want ( and no I dont have afixed line option :P )

same here the cell seems fine during the day when it hits about 6pm-10pm it drops from the good 3-6mb to about 0.60-1.5 which still isnt to bad
all i want is good pings and a service that is consistant which i dont seem to have any problem getting

:D
can get fixed line no problem here just previous owners of the house racked up a huge bill with eircom and wont release the line untill we pay them which we will not do so mobile is only option for us :rolleyes::rolleyes:

warlikedave · 14-07-2010 11:17pm

jay93 wrote: »

same here the cell seems fine during the day when it hits about 6pm-10pm it drops from the good 3-6mb to about 0.60-1.5 which still isnt to bad
all i want is good pings and a service that is consistant which i dont seem to have any problem getting :D
can get fixed line no problem here just previous owners of the house racked up a huge bill with eircom and wont release the line untill we pay them which we will not do so mobile is only option for us :rolleyes::rolleyes:

ok well thats a load of BS from eircom - it may be the same line but the customers are different - if you ring magnet or another fixed ISP they might release the line to them otherwise they could be locking you from accessing anotehr service which you are allowed to do

sounds like a call to comreg even if you dont use it for anything but you might want to so you haev a right to have the line in operation if you want it

jay93 · 14-07-2010 11:18pm

downwithpeace wrote: »

Past few days the speeds have been all over the place, not good speeds at that. Using the ZTE622 because the E5830 has decided it doesn't want to work any more so i'm back to the lovely random disconnections tonight.

does the ZTE modem disconnect you alot??ive just ran into a serious problem tonight the connection just dropped on me all of a sudden then windows xp seems to think the modem does not exist anymore re-installed software for the modem picks up on signal but when i hit connect it says its disconnected.have tried all 3 modems i have ..the o2 e1752 modem which is the one i have been posting recent tests off the vodafone k3765 and also a 3 E160G modem all keep saying disconnected..all modems are unlocked and its doing my damn head in :mad::mad::mad: its been very bad since going back to windows xp a week ago connections keep hanging on loading pages etc..i taught windows 7 was bad but at least my bloody modems worked with it so im going to install windows 7 again because xp is a heap of junk currently using a unsecured wifi in my area to get a copy of windows 7 from microsoft 2GB file taking a age to download if the install goes well ill throw up a few speedtests tomorrow

downwithpeace · 14-07-2010 11:32pm

warlikedave wrote: »

Mine decided to freeze up as well but a good long charge via usb or plug with it off can solve that - battery is an odd thing in it - it can be green for weeks and then die all of a sudden so its worth taking note of

I will try that thanks.

jay93 wrote: »

does the ZTE modem disconnect you alot??ive just ran into a serious problem tonight the connection just dropped on me all of a sudden then windows xp seems to think the modem does not exist anymore re-installed software for the modem picks up on signal but when i hit connect it says its disconnected.have tried all 3 modems i have ..the o2 e1752 modem which is the one i have been posting recent tests off the vodafone k3765 and also a 3 E160G modem all keep saying disconnected..all modems are unlocked and its doing my damn head in :mad::mad::mad: its been very bad since going back to windows xp a week ago connections keep hanging on loading pages etc..i taught windows 7 was bad but at least my bloody modems worked with it so im going to install windows 7 again because xp is a heap of junk currently using a unsecured wifi in my area to get a copy of windows 7 from microsoft 2GB file taking a age to download if the install goes well ill throw up a few speedtests tomorrow

The ZTE is just annoying, if i'm not streaming or downloading it will disconnect or hang and not work until i disconnect and reconnect. Mostly during peak times but can happen anytime, never had the issue with the E5830.

EDIT: Seems the charging did the trick, cheers warlikedave

jay93 · 15-07-2010 4:45am

downwithpeace wrote: »

I will try that thanks.

The ZTE is just annoying, if i'm not streaming or downloading it will disconnect or hang and not work until i disconnect and reconnect. Mostly during peak times but can happen anytime, never had the issue with the E5830.

EDIT: Seems the charging did the trick, cheers warlikedave

ZTE must not be a good modem :rolleyes:
good to see your E5830 is working again seemed like a simple fix:)
got windows 7 installed modem is working alot better under this system than in xp

warlikedave · 15-07-2010 5:09am

@ downwithpeace - no problem dude

downwithpeace · 15-07-2010 6:10pm

I think the ZTE is around a year and a half to two years old now so it could just be dieing slowly but handy as a back up for the just incase days

Good to see your modem is working better too jay93.

mayo.mick · 15-07-2010 7:18pm

look at my BROADBAND speeds this evening

Thats the highest ping i've ever seen:eek:

warlikedave · 15-07-2010 7:35pm

jay93 · 15-07-2010 7:37pm

result from o2 speedtest site:

Last Result:
Download Speed: 4682 kbps (585.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 1376 kbps (172 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 82 ms
15 July 2010 19:33:03

jay93 · 15-07-2010 7:41pm

mayo.mick wrote: »

look at my BROADBAND speeds this evening

Thats the highest ping i've ever seen:eek:

my god:eek::eek: what the hell that is really bad im suprised the speedtest site even loaded with the brodband being like that something must be up at vodafone because that is more than contention :eek::(

jay93 · 15-07-2010 7:46pm

downwithpeace wrote: »

I think the ZTE is around a year and a half to two years old now so it could just be dieing slowly but handy as a back up for the just incase days

Good to see your modem is working better too jay93.

ah right the ZTE must be dieing of old age lol:)
always good to have a backup modem alright in case something goes wrong with your modem :cool:
thanks im happy tht it is finally working full steam now my older system didnt seem to like the modems but windows 7 does

i shall be getting the new 3 mifi next month the E585 with the screen on it so looking forward to that the plug in modems can be a nuicense at times:rolleyes:!!

mayo.mick · 15-07-2010 8:09pm

jay93 wrote: »

my god:eek::eek: what the hell that is really bad im suprised the speedtest site even loaded with the brodband being like that something must be up at vodafone because that is more than contention :eek::(

It took a while to load allright, i'd say it has something to do with the weather ( heavy rain and thunder at the moment ) i'm only about 500 mtrs from the mast.

mayo.mick · 15-07-2010 8:14pm

mayo.mick wrote: »

look at my BROADBAND speeds this evening

Thats the highest ping i've ever seen:eek:

Back to more normal again

warlikedave · 15-07-2010 10:03pm

the weather has got worse and teh results are better - 1 bar of HSDPA :eek:

usually have two HSDPA bars (when no HSPA) with slighly slower speeds and 160ms plus pings

wierd

jay93 · 16-07-2010 5:21pm

thats odd the recommended server for 3 went to mexico WTF??

tested to dublin

downwithpeace · 16-07-2010 5:50pm

Not a bad download speed, for now.

jay93 · 17-07-2010 2:18am

in the uk using hotels wifi not to bad not great expected more from a hotel than this!!still its a change from mobile BB

:D also have my 3 dongle with me was very slow here in the uk

downwithpeace · 17-07-2010 5:24pm

:mad:

Walkman · 18-07-2010 6:10pm

3 seem's much more stable since I last had it a couple of years ago

ralphie · 20-07-2010 1:25am

http://www.speedtest.net/result/885217212.png
Normal 3.Very slow all night

mayo.mick · 21-07-2010 7:28pm

my speed results this evening:mad:

Walkman · 21-07-2010 8:20pm

Walkman · 21-07-2010 8:21pm

Helium · 21-07-2010 8:30pm

warlikedave · 21-07-2010 9:12pm

Walkman · 21-07-2010 10:26pm

downwithpeace · 23-07-2010 6:43pm

mayo.mick · 23-07-2010 7:37pm

my speeds this evening, 3g signal now gone form cell im connected to,

Midband speedtest Megaathread

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