The Walking Dead Discussion (SPOILERS)

degrassinoel · 26-10-2013 2:39pm #1

As the other thread has been turned upside down and inside out with spoilers and confusion. Please use this thread to discuss the latest going's on in The Walking Dead.

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Barna77 · 28-10-2013 12:00pm

Wow, the end, took me by surprise. Couldn't see Carol doing that. But thinking how she was teaching the kids about survival... it makes sense.

Rick and Ty's fight was rather bitter and poignant, feels like unleshing all the pressure they are on.

Zombie swarm! Fook I was on edge there. :eek: Also Michone seems to recover quite fast...

degrassinoel · 28-10-2013 12:22pm

Herchells speech was class, and yeah, Carol.. seen it coming in the last episode but wasnt sure if it was her or the screwed up kid.

Hope Tyreese worked out his deathwish with that fete of inhuman zombiekilling lol

bushball · 28-10-2013 4:37pm

i really liked the way it showed that ty was alive, when the zombies came out i thought that was it

i wonder how the whole carol thing will play out, i cant see herscal, daryl rick glen or any of the others voting to kill her

AllthingsCP · 29-10-2013 2:23am

This is on Mondays yes, I keep missing it and seeing it on Friday. Then green with envy when ye talking about it

RoyalMarine · 29-10-2013 6:33pm

that swarm was impressive! hopefully there is more story behind where there's such a large gathering there

LOSTfan57 · 29-10-2013 6:53pm

bushball wrote: »

i really liked the way it showed that ty was alive, when the zombies came out i thought that was it

i wonder how the whole carol thing will play out, i cant see herscal, daryl rick glen or any of the others voting to kill her

Well why would they keep her?
She disregarded the entire council system and acted on her own, furthermore she murdered two "infected" people....if Hershel/Daryl/Bob/Michonne/Tyreese do find medicine that returns these sick to full fitness it means Carol had zero reason at all to kill them. Plus Carol would also see no problem with killing Caleb, Glenn, Jeanette, Sasha or Hershel (he probably will get infected from a) being old b) Caleb coughed blood all over him c) he then chose to remove his mask so I guess Calebs blood might have infected him either way i'll be shocked if he avoids it......) or anyone else with symptoms.....how can they really trust her ever again?

bushball · 29-10-2013 9:52pm

LOSTfan57 wrote: »

Well why would they keep her?
She disregarded the entire council system and acted on her own, furthermore she murdered two "infected" people....if Hershel/Daryl/Bob/Michonne/Tyreese do find medicine that returns these sick to full fitness it means Carol had zero reason at all to kill them. Plus Carol would also see no problem with killing Caleb, Glenn, Jeanette, Sasha or Hershel (he probably will get infected from a) being old b) Caleb coughed blood all over him c) he then chose to remove his mask so I guess Calebs blood might have infected him either way i'll be shocked if he avoids it......) or anyone else with symptoms.....how can they really trust her ever again?

she did it when she thought it could be contained
i cant see rick/daryl/glen or any of the others except ty lining up her up and shooting her in the back
the way i see it, it will play out in 3 ways
ty will kill her and get kicked out
rick wont tell anyone
carol will be forced to leave

LOSTfan57 · 29-10-2013 10:12pm

bushball wrote: »

she did it when she thought it could be contained
i cant see rick/daryl/glen or any of the others except ty lining up her up and shooting her in the back
the way i see it, it will play out in 3 ways
ty will kill her and get kicked out
rick wont tell anyone
carol will be forced to leave

What did Hershel tell Ty in that episode though? Remember?

degrassinoel · 29-10-2013 10:43pm

TWD just got the green light for a fifth season

bushball · 29-10-2013 11:43pm

LOSTfan57 wrote: »

What did Hershel tell Ty in that episode though? Remember?

naw sorry mate i cant really remember that, are you sure it was hershel?

Barna77 · 29-10-2013 11:52pm

Did anybody pick up what they said on the radio?

degrassinoel · 29-10-2013 11:59pm

Barna77 wrote: »

Did anybody pick up what they said on the radio?

i'll have to watch it again on FX to hear it, but it totally reminded me of the broadcast in 28 days later.

Barna77 · 30-10-2013 12:24am

degrassinoel wrote: »

i'll have to watch it again on FX to hear it, but it totally reminded me of the broadcast in 28 days later.

Good point... Which reminds me of the Governor... Possible trap?

degrassinoel · 30-10-2013 12:28am

possibly, as his "trail went cold" according to Daryl - he could be anywhere, or dead. That hoard though, something has to be making them gather up like that.

PirateShampoo · 30-10-2013 12:33am

The hoard is in the comics as well. Think of them like a million strong herd of cows.

salacious crumb · 30-10-2013 9:16am

Was a tad ridiculous that Ty got away from them all though :pac:

Good episode. All I could make out on the radio was the word "alive", but now that it has been mentioned, it could actually have been the Governor's voice. I did see him in a photo yesterday confirming season 5, so maybe he'll be back....

PirateShampoo · 30-10-2013 12:04pm

salacious crumb wrote: »

Was a tad ridiculous that Ty got away from them all though :pac:

Good episode. All I could make out on the radio was the word "alive", but now that it has been mentioned, it could actually have been the Governor's voice. I did see him in a photo yesterday confirming season 5, so maybe he'll be back....

His rage scene is a nod at the comics.

Comic spoiler below

In the comic he has a daughter, when she dies he locks himself in the prison gym in what looks like a suicide attempt. When the gang goes to see whats happened they find him still alive covered in zombie brains after slaughtering 100? or so zombies with his hammer

Barna77 · 30-10-2013 1:33pm

salacious crumb wrote: »

Was a tad ridiculous that Ty got away from them all though :pac:

Good episode. All I could make out on the radio was the word "alive", but now that it has been mentioned, it could actually have been the Governor's voice. I did see him in a photo yesterday confirming season 5, so maybe he'll be back....

Yeah, you wouldn't expect him to walk away and disappear from the series.

LOSTfan57 · 30-10-2013 3:32pm

bushball wrote: »

naw sorry mate i cant really remember that, are you sure it was hershel?

When Karen first showed symptoms and Tyreese was showing concern for her Hershel said "Not to worry, we're gunna figure this out".....The disease may not be fatal as Hershel knew so straight away he was going to try and think of a cure (along with Dr.S)....in the next episode we see Hershel send Bob, Daryl, Michonne (and Ty) to get medication while he eases the symptoms.....Carol had no reason to kill Karen and David....they were awaiting treatment and separate from the others.....Hershel just needed time and he said this infront of Carol....she completely ignored him...

degrassinoel · 30-10-2013 3:47pm

let's not bash Carol just yet, we dont know why she did it, only that she admitted it. She could have been covering for the screwedupkid, and.. we still dont know who put the live rats out to feed the walkers. Both of those signs for me are pointing at the screwed up kid (kid being upset at nick the zombie being dead(er))and carol's recent loss of her daughter and a misguided mother's instinct to protect the young. Add to that, that Carol gave screwedupkid a knife the day before the murders too, her admission may be one of guilt for teaching the kid how to kill and seeing what she had done or catching her in the act rather her(carol) actually doing it, she may be covering up for the kid.

bushball · 30-10-2013 4:28pm

never thought about that degrassinoel, i have to say i laughed when the guy asked her to look after them like theyre her own though

PirateShampoo · 30-10-2013 6:24pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

let's not bash Carol just yet, we dont know why she did it, only that she admitted it. She could have been covering for the screwedupkid, and.. we still dont know who put the live rats out to feed the walkers. Both of those signs for me are pointing at the screwed up kid (kid being upset at nick the zombie being dead(er))and carol's recent loss of her daughter and a misguided mother's instinct to protect the young. Add to that, that Carol gave screwedupkid a knife the day before the murders too, her admission may be one of guilt for teaching the kid how to kill and seeing what she had done or catching her in the act rather her(carol) actually doing it, she may be covering up for the kid.

I thought we found out it was the girl who was feeding the Walkers?

She has made friends with one of them giving it a name and drawing pictures of it and feeding it no ?

Also i was convinced we would find a half eaten rat in the water barrel Carol kicked over.

degrassinoel · 30-10-2013 8:12pm

i seen the picture alright but i didnt see rats in it? i'll have to look again this friday

PirateShampoo · 31-10-2013 12:30pm

It's hard to discuss without referencing the comic, even though some of the characters arnt in the series you can still half predict what might happen.

The One Who Knocks · 01-11-2013 4:03pm

salacious crumb wrote: »

Was a tad ridiculous that Ty got away from them all though :pac:

Yeah, because that's the ridiculous part... :P

salacious crumb · 01-11-2013 4:14pm

Point taken :pac:

Zomg Okay · 03-11-2013 4:39am

Friend was watching the episode with me, made a worrying point:

Lizzy (the screwed up kid) went into the quarantined cell block... with the knife Carol gave her. I didn't notice but he thought her cough was unconvincing too. Don't know if he's looking too much into it but an interesting observation all the same.

Does anyone know why Carol flipped and started tossing water barrels?

degrassinoel · 03-11-2013 9:34am

Zomg Okay wrote: »

Friend was watching the episode with me, made a worrying point:

Lizzy (the screwed up kid) went into the quarantined cell block... with the knife Carol gave her. I didn't notice but he thought her cough was unconvincing too. Don't know if he's looking too much into it but an interesting observation all the same.

Does anyone know why Carol flipped and started tossing water barrels?

I thought that too, Carol flipped the barrels out of frustration and guilt imo

degrassinoel · 04-11-2013 1:00pm

Well, i was wrong, I'm gonna miss Carol

DavidHabsburg · 04-11-2013 1:32pm

I don't think this will be the end of Carol.

She is possibly my favourite character in the show now. TBH, I would rather be out in the open with her than stuck in the prison with the virus. I am sick of Rick!

Also, moment of silence for the two poor hippies that got it

Malibu Stacy · 04-11-2013 6:21pm

I was half-hoping that Carol would plow into Rick as she was turning her car around.

And why in the world would he give guns to strangers? Especially hippy-dippy strangers like those two?

degrassinoel · 04-11-2013 7:49pm

They owned those guns, they just got them back and a free watch

bushball · 05-11-2013 10:02pm

i wonder will carol be back though, i cant see her just walking away from them all even after what she did

Barna77 · 05-11-2013 11:21pm

Only saw this episode now. Wow, what did just happen there! :eek: Self righteous Rick is back. Logged on Twitter on Sunday night and it was inundated with posts about Carol so turned it off before I read too much, but wow...

Daryl won't be happy.

Now there could be your spin off, Carol on the lose.

bushball · 05-11-2013 11:36pm

daryls not gonna be happy that carols gone and tys not gonna be happy that shes not dead
ive a funny feeling ricks going to lie and say shes dead

degrassinoel · 05-11-2013 11:51pm

maybe, but i'd hazzard a guess that he'll say she wanted to leave and left - daryll will know better but tyreese wont.

it'd be mad if someone else 'fessed up to it, like lizzie, yep i still have hope that carol wasnt that insane. I love Carol.

Zomg Okay · 06-11-2013 1:29am

This isn't the end of Carol.

They wouldn't dare. :mad:

MarkR · 06-11-2013 2:58pm

I had only started to like bad ass Carol. So far, she's not dead. Last guy who left the show (missing hand) who wasn't dead came back. Maybe she will too!

RoryMac · 06-11-2013 3:07pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

maybe, but i'd hazzard a guess that he'll say she wanted to leave and left - daryll will know better but tyreese wont.

it'd be mad if someone else 'fessed up to it, like lizzie, yep i still have hope that carol wasnt that insane. I love Carol.

I think that could be what happens alright, Lizzie fesses up when Rick comes back without Carol and leads to a search mission to find her. Then they either run into the horde or find her with the Guvnor

bushball · 06-11-2013 8:06pm

carol would probably die before helping the guv but i can see him using her for leverage somehow
does anyone know if morgan will be back or if any rumors are going around about him?

Barna77 · 06-11-2013 8:58pm

I don't see Carol joining the governor. But well you never know....

Malibu Stacy · 06-11-2013 9:01pm

Does she even know what he looks like though? I missed a few episodes last season, but I didn't think she had even met him - she just knows he exists, right?

I also have to think that between the mystery virus and the weak fence that the group, or at least a core group may end up leaving or being driven out of the prison so perhaps they will see Carol again when they try to regroup. If that happens, it will be interesting, especially depending on what Rick tells them about her disappearance.

degrassinoel · 06-11-2013 9:57pm

when prison guy was unexpectedly shot in the head beside Carol, the governor would have seen her pretty clearly, but she might not have seen him, she'd know he only has one eye though. Doesnt matter how nice he is, it wont grow his eye back

Zomg Okay · 06-11-2013 11:58pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

when prison guy was unexpectedly shot in the head beside Carol, the governor would have seen her pretty clearly, but she might not have seen him, she'd know he only has one eye though. Doesnt matter how nice he is, it wont grow his eye back

And the Oreo he uses in place of an eyepatch is pretty distinctive. She'll know him if she runs into him.

What do you guys make of our alcoholic friend? I can't see him being taken on a run again but I do hope they try and do something to help with his problem. It's already gotten Zach killed and he nearly died himself trying to hold onto the bag.

degrassinoel · 07-11-2013 11:35am

he's a liability in that state, even stone cold sober his gut reaction when faced with life and death was to save the booze. However, he does have a medical background - didnt someone mention he was a combat medic?

maximoose · 07-11-2013 11:38am

I really don't get the love for Carol....

I'm glad she's gone (even though she's probably not actually gone)

bushball wrote: »

does anyone know if morgan will be back or if any rumors are going around about him?

Yep:

http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Morgan_Jones_(TV_Series) wrote:

On July 19th, 2013, showrunner, Scott Gimple, confirmed that Morgan would appear in Season 4

Zomg Okay · 07-11-2013 2:02pm

degrassinoel wrote: »

he's a liability in that state, even stone cold sober his gut reaction when faced with life and death was to save the booze. However, he does have a medical background - didnt someone mention he was a combat medic?

I think he mentioned it himself when we was trying to get on the team that hit the Big Spot.

I'm surprised it took this long to find an alcoholic. Its the kind of world where you'd think at least every other person would have to drink themselves to sleep.

bushball · 07-11-2013 5:30pm

He was combat medic, I think it was Daryl who said it when he was trying to get on the run
He seemed to have a decent idea about the medicine
Herscel will probably get sick from the other guy coughing on him so they'll probably have to keep him around to help the sick. Its abit weird that he didnt get any medicine at all as it seems he picked it up from the cot before they even got near the medicine cabinet

RoyalMarine · 11-11-2013 8:01am

amazing episode!

Rick and Carl taking out the small horde that broke in was pretty badass. However Rick's shooting was a little dramatic!

Evd-Burner · 11-11-2013 11:02am

That was a fantastic episode, things are shaping up for a really good season.

I wonder how many people are now left in the prison. 15-20 maybe?

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