Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

Princess Peach · 14-11-2010 11:57pm

C_Dawg wrote: »

I'm back to work in the morning after being out sick for over a year. I'm sh!tting myself now lol

Good luck! I bet you'll be fine after a few hours, its just a bit scary thinking of it now.

Odysseus · 15-11-2010 4:08pm

OneForTheTeam wrote: »

Hi guys do ye know if the medicial card covers any CBT therapy?

What you can do is ask your GP for a referral to your local Psych Services, it then depends on your area, but you should be able to access therapy through them.

Another option would be to have a look at you local directory of services, you may have a low price/sliding scale/free counselling or psychotherapy service in your area.

Don't be afaird to try other psychotherapeutic options CBT is only one form of psychotherapy, and to be honest a lot of psychotherapists I know would claim to work from a CBT approach have few if any real qualifications in it.

CBT helps some people, some benefit from other types of psychotherapy, the main thing I would say is focus on trying to get access to a professional therapist, don't worry too much about them being CBT therapists or not. As you are looking for free treatment, try anything that may help provided the person is a qualified psychotherapist or psychologist. You may have to do a bit of searching, but their are free/ low cost professional services out there. Best of luck with it.

MUSEIST · 15-11-2010 4:09pm

Odysseus wrote: »

What you can do is ask your GP for a referral to your local Psych Services, it then depends on your area, but you should be able to access therapy through them.

Another option would be to have a look at you local directory of services, you may have a low price/sliding scale/free counselling or psychotherapy service in your area.

Don't be afaird to try other psychotherapeutic options CBT is only one form of psychotherapy, and to be honest a lot of psychotherapists I know would claim to work from a CBT approach have few if any real qualifications in it.

CBT helps some people, some benefit from other types of psychotherapy, the main thing I would say is focus on trying to get access to a professional therapist, don't worry too much about them being CBT therapists or not. As you are looking for free treatment, try anything that may help provided the person is a qualified psychotherapist or psychologist. You may have to do a bit of searching, but their are free/ low cost professional services out there. Best of luck with it.

What are the other types of psychotherapy, I have only heard of and tried CBT?

C_Dawg · 15-11-2010 7:02pm

Princess Peach wrote: »

Good luck! I bet you'll be fine after a few hours, its just a bit scary thinking of it now.

Cheers for the good luck.

A load of people actually came up to me and said welcome back which was really nice. It'll take a while to get used to but my employer has been really good about it all and are slowly easing me back into the work. After 15 months out I'm just grateful to have the job back lol

Princess Peach · 15-11-2010 11:03pm

C_Dawg wrote: »

Cheers for the good luck.

A load of people actually came up to me and said welcome back which was really nice. It'll take a while to get used to but my employer has been really good about it all and are slowly easing me back into the work. After 15 months out I'm just grateful to have the job back lol

I knew it would be fine! Just keep your spirits up and keep working away. I get pretty stressed in work but I have good co-workers who always find a way to make me laugh, so I'm glad people welcomed you so nicely.

Odysseus · 15-11-2010 11:53pm

MUSEIST wrote: »

What are the other types of psychotherapy, I have only heard of and tried CBT?

That is part of the problem CBT has been a bit of a buzz word for the past few years especially within the medical community. However, I am not saying CBT does not help people it does, it's just not suited to everyone.

The main types of psychotherapy in Ireland would include:
Psychoanalytic psychotherapy.
Analytic psychology.
Humanistic psychotherapy,
Integrative psychotherapy.

Then you have people who specialise in certain areas for example I'm a psychoanalyst, and my HSE work is based in a specific field addiction. For others it may be Rogers and eating disorders. However, a good psychotherapist should be able to treat depression, anxiety disorders etc.

As I said CBT help some people I have trained in it myself, but it does not suit everybody. I would not consider myself a CBT therapist though. A lot of therapists I know who say they use CBT have learned it on short course rather than doing a Masters or similar in it. Does that answer your question?

If you have any other questions feel free to ask about psychology/psychotherapy in the psychology forum. We are not PI, but we do discuss issues in general as opposed to specific cases.

SL10 · 16-11-2010 12:24am

C_Dawg wrote: »

Cheers for the good luck.

A load of people actually came up to me and said welcome back which was really nice. It'll take a while to get used to but my employer has been really good about it all and are slowly easing me back into the work. After 15 months out I'm just grateful to have the job back lol

Well done on going back to work C Dawg- thats a brill step- you should be really proud:)

staker · 16-11-2010 12:30am

C_Dawg wrote: »

Cheers for the good luck.

A load of people actually came up to me and said welcome back which was really nice. It'll take a while to get used to but my employer has been really good about it all and are slowly easing me back into the work. After 15 months out I'm just grateful to have the job back lol

Well done C_Dawg, top notch!

SL10 · 22-11-2010 10:37pm

Hi All,

So I have developed a new anxiety symptom/initiator that I'm wondering if anyone else suffers from cos I cant really figure out how to deal with it.

Basically I have become very worried/obsessed with my breathing and keep panicking that I am not able to breathe. its not a hyperventilating thing though- its more like I dont really believe that I am breathing because I cant feel the air going in and out! (Now I do know that this is stupid and that no one can actually feel themselves breathing and that it is not something that we consciously control) But I am worrying that I might forget to breathe or else my lungs might stop working. Completely irrational yes but it is still causing me a great deal of anxiety!

So just wondering if anyone else has ever had this problem? And any hints on how they dealt with it? I am currently doing deep breathing exercises every day to help with my panic attacks and kinda wondering if this is having an effect on it?! Like could it be having the opposite effect on me?

OneForTheTeam · 23-11-2010 7:48pm

SL10 wrote: »

Hi All,

So I have developed a new anxiety symptom/initiator that I'm wondering if anyone else suffers from cos I cant really figure out how to deal with it.

Basically I have become very worried/obsessed with my breathing and keep panicking that I am not able to breathe. its not a hyperventilating thing though- its more like I dont really believe that I am breathing because I cant feel the air going in and out! (Now I do know that this is stupid and that no one can actually feel themselves breathing and that it is not something that we consciously control) But I am worrying that I might forget to breathe or else my lungs might stop working. Completely irrational yes but it is still causing me a great deal of anxiety!

So just wondering if anyone else has ever had this problem? And any hints on how they dealt with it? I am currently doing deep breathing exercises every day to help with my panic attacks and kinda wondering if this is having an effect on it?! Like could it be having the opposite effect on me?

I get that too some times wake up at night with it.

Sooooooooooooooooo mega freak out for me the last 24hours or so. Went to bed last night at like 11pm couldnt sleep as my heart rate was over 100 bpm and was freaking out thinking im going to have a heart att, Anyway after all night been up I went to A&E and 8am Where they hooked me up to heart rate thingys and took blood to check my heart. All came back clear and was giving a anxiety med to relax me and heart rate. Anyway its nearing 19hours now since it first started and my heart rate starting to drop thank god. Never ever experienced this before.

Anyone else?

MUSEIST · 23-11-2010 9:16pm

OneForTheTeam wrote: »

I get that too some times wake up at night with it.

Sooooooooooooooooo mega freak out for me the last 24hours or so. Went to bed last night at like 11pm couldnt sleep as my heart rate was over 100 bpm and was freaking out thinking im going to have a heart att, Anyway after all night been up I went to A&E and 8am Where they hooked me up to heart rate thingys and took blood to check my heart. All came back clear and was giving a anxiety med to relax me and heart rate. Anyway its nearing 19hours now since it first started and my heart rate starting to drop thank god. Never ever experienced this before.

Anyone else?

Exact same thing happend to me a year ago, I swore I was having a heart attack, turned out to be a massive panic attack but it was a very scary experience.

Reactor · 23-11-2010 11:45pm

Hi guys, long time reader of this thread, first time poster.

I think I have social anxiety and a bit of depression, Im 26 (male) and Ive always been antisocial and miserable with terror, nausea and sometimes vomiting if I have a meeting/appointment coming up but it got really bad recently after a bit of a fight with a housemate, having 2 degrees but being unemployed for a year definitely hasnt helped, so I decided to get help with it this week. My GP gave me Xanax to try for a week today before we meet again and I have a meeting with a councillor in 3 weeks time.

I took my first Xanax a few hours ago and its not as potent as I thought it was going to be judging by my research beforehand but I do actually feel nicely chilled out now and the despair seems to have lifted a bit, I even sent out a load of CVs at 10pm in the evening because I actually felt better about doing that than I have in months, it usually makes me cry and ruins my day.

I think my main problem now is I have absolutely no friends whatsoever, something I notice about this thread is a lot of people mention their friends trying to cheer them up or get them to come out but I have nobody, not really sure how to go about rectifying that, Im in Galway City but the usual advice of joining clubs or meeting people with common interest is completely meaningless to me, it just wont work, I dont really have any interests anyway apart from the internet.

Another strange thing is that for the past few years I havent spoken to my brother in years, he's happy and sucessful I think and I would like to have a relationship with him but I dont know how to start talking again after 5 years of silence, same for with my parents, I go home at the weekends out of habit from when I was in college but they try to talk to me and I just grunt yes no or fine at them, I cant seem to push through that and if I do Ill just start crying, I have no idea why Im like that as they were always great parents.

Any advice or links appreciated, Im just making lists of stuff to talk about to the councillor in a couple of weeks. I do see a lot of common problems with people in this thrad and that is a help, thanks for reading.

RubyXI · 23-11-2010 11:58pm

Reactor wrote: »

Hi guys, long time reader of this thread, first time poster.

I think I have social anxiety and a bit of depression, Im 26 (male) and Ive always been antisocial and miserable with terror, nausea and sometimes vomiting if I have a meeting/appointment coming up but it got really bad recently after a bit of a fight with a housemate, having 2 degrees but being unemployed for a year definitely hasnt helped, so I decided to get help with it this week. My GP gave me Xanax to try for a week today before we meet again and I have a meeting with a councillor in 3 weeks time.

I took my first Xanax a few hours ago and its not as potent as I thought it was going to be judging by my research beforehand but I do actually feel nicely chilled out now and the despair seems to have lifted a bit, I even sent out a load of CVs at 10pm in the evening because I actually felt better about doing that than I have in months, it usually makes me cry and ruins my day.

I think my main problem now is I have absolutely no friends whatsoever, something I notice about this thread is a lot of people mention their friends trying to cheer them up or get them to come out but I have nobody, not really sure how to go about rectifying that, Im in Galway City but the usual advice of joining clubs or meeting people with common interest is completely meaningless to me, it just wont work, I dont really have any interests anyway apart from the internet.

Another strange thing is that for the past few years I havent spoken to my brother in years, he's happy and sucessful I think and I would like to have a relationship with him but I dont know how to start talking again after 5 years of silence, same for with my parents, I go home at the weekends out of habit from when I was in college but they try to talk to me and I just grunt yes no or fine at them, I cant seem to push through that and if I do Ill just start crying, I have no idea why Im like that as they were always great parents.

Any advice or links appreciated, Im just making lists of stuff to talk about to the councillor in a couple of weeks. I do see a lot of common problems with people in this thrad and that is a help, thanks for reading.

Know what ya mean about the friends thing. I'm resigned to the fact of being alone. Wish someone would text me though. I just have no-one to talk to. No-one to help me.

stupidusername · 24-11-2010 12:00am

phi3 wrote: »

Know what ya mean about the friends thing. I'm resigned to the fact of being alone. Wish someone would text me though. I just have no-one to talk to. No-one to help me.

Would it be a bad thing if a few of us in here were to swap numbers for this very reason?

Reactor · 24-11-2010 12:01am

I dont even have a Facebook account because it would be just embarassing looking at it

staker · 24-11-2010 12:02am

Very honest post Reactor, fair play as it's not a thing I'd be able to do online myself.
From the sounds of it, you're really making a go of it and you're probably excited and anxious about it at the same time.Excited at finally getting this monkey off your back,anxious for it all to be in the past.
I'm no expert on any of this but to me you've turned a corner and it's only going to get easier.
From my own experience,maybe a bit jealous of your brother(was in my case anyway) and feeling inadequate in his shadow.I suffered the same thing for years but once I realised how happy I could be in my own achievements these feelings really did disappear.
I don't know what the fallout with your brother was over, it would be a big bonus if you could approach that when you feel up to it!!
Best of luck with it all!!

Queen-Mise · 24-11-2010 12:48am

Reactor wrote: »

I dont even have a Facebook account because it would be just embarassing looking at it

Facebook is a strange thing. My psychiatrist told me it is interaction with other people - as is boards.

I would be inclined to join facebook. Sometimes it was my only interaction with the outside world when my depressed.

Go with facebook. So much on it: blogs (love political ones), videos, games - so many. Zynga free poker for example is brilliant. Live Scramble.

My last point on this. I have a friend - in a serious motorbike accident. Took him two years to walk again. During the worst of it - facebook and its poker was his sanity. He has made some long like friends there & even a new york girlfriend for past two years.

Try it anyway.

Oops didnt realise problem was with facebook. Sorry. You can block ppl posts without removing them as a friend. Easy to manage facebook for problemish things.

Best of luck with it. I wandered all over the place there

Queen-Mise · 24-11-2010 1:00am

back to what i wanted to say. With my depression i have finite amounts of energy. Was out 3ish hours with a friend. Free facial & drink afterwards (non-al). I am bone tired now. Could well sleep till one tomorrow.

Sometimes i think im getting better till i try to do something. Such a frustrating illness.

C_Dawg · 24-11-2010 9:57pm

I feel like that "Forever alone" internet meme...

RubyXI · 25-11-2010 12:02am

Anyone else find anxiety really expensive? Like I there was this thing I wanted to buy but I was too scared to go ask for it in the shop so I bought it online but it cost more coz i had to pay the delivery. And I know I could get my rent reduced but i'm too scared to make the call to the landlord.

Princess Peach · 25-11-2010 12:05am

phi3 wrote: »

Anyone else find anxiety really expensive? Like I there was this thing I wanted to buy but I was too scared to go ask for it in the shop so I bought it online but it cost more coz i had to pay the delivery. And I know I could get my rent reduced but i'm too scared to make the call to the landlord.

My boss owes me a lot of holiday pay which I am entitled too, but I'm too afraid to ask!

I guess just think to yourself before you do something whats the worse that can happen. And set yourself a time goal to do it maybe.

I WILL ask for my holiday pay tomorrow!

RubyXI · 25-11-2010 12:09am

Princess Peach wrote: »

My boss owes me a lot of holiday pay which I am entitled too, but I'm too afraid to ask!

I guess just think to yourself before you do something whats the worse that can happen. And set yourself a time goal to do it maybe.

I WILL ask for my holiday pay tomorrow!

I think i might write a letter to my landlord. Letters and emails are so much easir than talking and phoning.

Queen-Mise · 25-11-2010 12:10am

Queen-Mise wrote: »

back to what i wanted to say. With my depression i have finite amounts of energy. Was out 3ish hours with a friend. Free facial & drink afterwards (non-al). I am bone tired now. Could well sleep till one tomorrow.

Sometimes i think im getting better till i try to do something. Such a frustrating illness.

I slept until 14.25 today - because I was out for a couple of hours yesterday evening. Crazy stuff.

I forget sometimes why I keep such a low profile, stay close to home so much. Last night wasn't much, and still exhausted today.

Reactor · 25-11-2010 2:43am

phi3 wrote: »

Anyone else find anxiety really expensive? Like I there was this thing I wanted to buy but I was too scared to go ask for it in the shop so I bought it online but it cost more coz i had to pay the delivery. And I know I could get my rent reduced but i'm too scared to make the call to the landlord.

Yeah I cant ask the other people in my house to stop using my milk or to pay me back for an NTL bill I covered when the landlord demanded it a while ago, Id rather lose it than have any kind of confrontation.

SL10 · 26-11-2010 12:15am

Definitely- the counselling, books and the countless bottles of rescue remedy i have bought do not come cheap!

Reactor · 26-11-2010 12:31am

What are people in this threads opinion of Rescue Remedy anyway?

SL10 · 26-11-2010 12:39am

Im not too sure. I use it all the time. And a lot of it! Im not too sure if it actually does anything tho other than it being a bit of a comfort for me. Almost like a ritual that calms me slightly.

I read up on it a bit online and i dont think it is proved to have any effect other than acting as a placebo!

neelyohara · 27-11-2010 3:05am

I use it on my dog and cats and it seems to have an effect on them

Personally I haven't had any benefits from it. With me I wonder if it's because my body is used to taking stronger chemicals?

sam34 · 28-11-2010 5:28pm

nualahyland please read the charter before posting here again.

we do not allow any kind of medical advice here on boards. and even if we did, the "advice" you gave was inaccurate.

post deleted for the above reasons

Reactor · 29-11-2010 6:49pm

Is it generally recommended that you try a bit of councelling before you ask your GP for anti-depressants? He offered me them straight away when I went to see him.

Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

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