Hurler of the Year 2012

bobjimmy · 20-05-2012 10:14pm #1

I know we havnt seen any of the matchs yet but ye always expect someone to excel each year so wat are yer predictons.

daddydick · 21-05-2012 12:07am

It's definitely going to be Henry Shefflin, or else Richie Power, or Michael Fennelly or Padraic Maher or else one of Tommy Walsh, Lar Corbett, John Mullane, Joe Canning, JJ Delaney or if it's none of those it will be someone else that hurls for either Kilkenny, Cork, Tipperary, Galway, Limerick, Waterford, Clare, Dublin, Wexford, Offaly or Antrim

That's my prediction

SteelyDanJalapeno · 21-05-2012 12:08am

Lehane by a country mile

MrJoeSoap · 21-05-2012 12:10am

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Lehane by a country mile

Danny Sutcliffe at 16/1 for young hurler is my shout. As for the senior, Eoin Larkin would be a good outside bet. Had a solid league campaign. Other than that, sure it could be anyone.

Fireball07 · 21-05-2012 12:16am

Declan Hannon/Shane Dowling

jive · 21-05-2012 6:05am

Lehane for young hurler, Power for player of the year if he comes back from injury, Tommy Walsh to win it if he doesn't. Early days yet though so it's anyones guess, will be hard to beat Lehane to young hurler of the year though he's been quality thus far

AGC · 21-05-2012 1:25pm

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Danny Sutcliffe at 16/1 for young hurler is my shout. As for the senior, Eoin Larkin would be a good outside bet. Had a solid league campaign. Other than that, sure it could be anyone.

Sutcliffe not going to miss part of the champo through injury?

eigrod · 21-05-2012 1:45pm

Surprised to see John Gardiner in that list. Will be doing well to keep his place for the year. Would have Shane O' Neill, Patrick Horgan, Darren Sweetnam and others on it from Cork long before John Gardiner.

Joe Canning for me, if he stays fit. Unmarkable when he's on form.

Yeboah · 21-05-2012 2:40pm

the usual KK suspects will be in the running: Walsh,Larkin,Fennelly,Shefflin....if Cork have a decent year Sweetnam or Lehane for Young Hurler...Id take a punt on Padraic Maher, very consistent player and if Tipp get to a final, will have a good shout for it

MrJoeSoap · 21-05-2012 2:57pm

AGC wrote: »

Sutcliffe not going to miss part of the champo through injury?

Nope.

http://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/sutcliffe-to-lift-the-blues-3108501.html

Also, just saw this...

http://www.thescore.ie/at-odds-put-your-money-on-sutcliffe-455994-May2012/

premierstone · 21-05-2012 3:42pm

Can't see how anyone from outside of Tipp and KK can win it, so with that in mind I would say Padraic Maher and Eoin Larkin wiould be my two against the field, with Seamie Callinan a lively outsider if rumours from Tipp camp are to be believed.

OAOB · 21-05-2012 6:18pm

I'll go with Colin Fennelly, reckon he could be a goal machine for Kilkenny.

cgpg5 · 21-05-2012 7:26pm

Lehane shoe in for young player surely with N.Burke and Sweetman (if he starts) not far off.

Xenophile · 21-05-2012 7:45pm

Hope Lar Corbett has a thing or two to say about all this.

Mountainlad · 21-05-2012 7:45pm

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Nope.

http://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/sutcliffe-to-lift-the-blues-3108501.html

Also, just saw this...

http://www.thescore.ie/at-odds-put-your-money-on-sutcliffe-455994-May2012/

See the problem as I see it with that article as I see it (second article) is that while you'd get more money if Sutcliffe wins it, if Lehane wins it you'll get no money, where as you would if you bet on Lehane, and Lehane is going to win it. Sutcliffe also played midfield against Cork, so I don't see where this stuff about Gardiner is coming out of, he was on Sean Og, who I reckon should definitely be dropped for Cork.

Hurler The Year is a difficult one to call, it's way too early really to be talking about it. Padraic Maher was hurler of the year for most of last year, probably up until the final. The year before it was between Fennelly and Brendan Maher, and Lar Corbett won it. I'd say Power or Larkin would be decent bets, Noel McGrath was the man in the league for Tipp from what I saw. I'll believe it when I see it with Seamus Callinan, last time I saw him he was destroyed by Wayne Hutchison playing for Drom/Inch.

Haha what is Conor O'Mahony doing in that list by the way, or Conor McGrath? O'Mahony is decent, but no where near that good and while Conor McGrath is excellent, he plays for Clare.

Mike O' Brien · 21-05-2012 8:56pm

Why am I not nominated?!!!!!

deisedude · 22-05-2012 12:33am

Unlikely that a Waterford player would win hurler of the year since it is inevitable it will be a Tipp or Kilkenny player but Brick Walsh and John Mullane are surely a better bet than a good few on that list

A few people getting carried away with Lehane. Kilkenny didn't give him a sniff in the league final and while he is a huge prospect he won't be winning hurler of the year in his first proper season at senior

premierstone · 22-05-2012 10:38am

Mountainlad wrote: »

Hurler The Year is a difficult one to call, it's way too early really to be talking about it. Padraic Maher was hurler of the year for most of last year, probably up until the final. The year before it was between Fennelly and Brendan Maher, and Lar Corbett won it. I'd say Power or Larkin would be decent bets, Noel McGrath was the man in the league for Tipp from what I saw. I'll believe it when I see it with Seamus Callinan, last time I saw him he was destroyed by Wayne Hutchison playing for Drom/Inch.

Haha what is Conor O'Mahony doing in that list by the way, or Conor McGrath? O'Mahony is decent, but no where near that good and while Conor McGrath is excellent, he plays for Clare.

Re. Seamie Callinan, club hurling and intercounty are two completely different games and played at the opposite end of the callender year, have a look at Lar Corbett's form at club level, its nothing short of shocking.

COM on the list is hardly that absurd, he is the CB for the second favourites for the AI, has 2 allstars in that position and at 27 should be in he's prime, I dont think he will win it myself but certainly stranger things have happened.

Conor McGrath is an excellent talent and I quite fancy Clare to upset Waterford in the Munster Semi, that would mean he would be then in a Munster Final and would also be having an appearance in Croke Park, why is that anymore ludicrous than Joe Canning, what are Galway going to win this year??

MrJoeSoap · 22-05-2012 12:19pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

See the problem as I see it with that article as I see it (second article) is that while you'd get more money if Sutcliffe wins it, if Lehane wins it you'll get no money, where as you would if you bet on Lehane, and Lehane is going to win it.

It's taken me about a day to try and work out this little riddle. The odds imply that Lehane is over 6 times as likely to receive Young Hurler of the Year than Sutcliffe, I can't agree with that and I can't see any value whatsoever in Lehane, but if you think he is more than 38% likely to win the award then fill your boots. I defnitely see Sutcliffe as more than a 6% shout.

Mountainlad wrote: »

Sutcliffe also played midfield against Cork, so I don't see where this stuff about Gardiner is coming out of, he was on Sean Og, who I reckon should definitely be dropped for Cork.

It's fairly widely accepted, the last quotes below are from Ryan O'Dwyer and Sutcliffe himself on the matter.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0312/1224313151433.html

Lehane finished with three points, but his contribution was bettered by Dublin wing forward Danny Sutcliffe, named at centrefield but switched with Simon Lambert, on just his second league outing. Including a rhythmic three points from play in four minutes, the St Jude’s man shot five to land the TG4 Man of the Match award.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2012/0328/sport/no-fear-of-leagues-being-hurt-188627.html

especially the likes of Danny Sutcliffe, who has starred against John Gardiner and Tommy Walsh.

http://www.southernstar.ie/article.php?id=3321

It was rough justice on the Dubs, who looked the better team for long stretches of the second half when Danny Sutcliffe made a huge impact against John Gardiner, who was way off the pace at wing back for Cork.

http://www.munsterfans.com/threads/8581-The-GAA-Thread/page296?p=1040177&viewfull=1#post1040177

Danny Sutcliffe from Dublin has taken john gardiner and Tommy Walsh to the cleaners in the last 3 weeks.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0328/1224314004649.html

http://www.reservoirdubs.com/forum/index.php/topic,14209.msg522500.html?PHPSESSID=96bfe1d2fa735cd47140796d860a8c27#msg522500

Sutcliffe was terrific. Destroyed John Gardiner. We have a real talent here.

“Danny Sutcliffe, like, he goes out one week and plays wing back against Galway and plays a stormer. Goes out against Cork and John Gardiner is taken off. How often do you see that?

“I was joking with Danny in the showers after and I said, ‘Jeez, when I was playing with Tipp, John Gardiner finished my Tipp career, you’re after finishing his Cork career’.”

http://www.theliberty.ie/2012/05/01/danny-sutcliffe-previews-dublins-chances-in-the-shl/

“Having watched people like John Gardiner and Tommy Walsh for years on television it felt great to finally pit myself against them.”

I re-watched the game this morning. Sutcliffe was on Gardiner from about 30mins in, when he had a goal chance saved in the 35th minute (subsequently got a point) and when he scored three points in four minutes (48th to 53rd minute) in the second half. He was given Man of the Match too, despite the defeat (and Lehane was very impressive also). Had been one of Dublins best players in a poor overall performance in Salthill in the previous outing, and was certainly Man of the Match the next week against Kilkenny also.

0-1 against Galway
0-5 against Cork
2-3 against Kilkenny
0-2 against Tipperary
0-1 against Waterford
0-3 against Galway (0-0 in the replay)

Averaging 3.0 points per game to Lehane's 3.3, in a team that was relegated thats not a bad return at all. I'm not arguing that Sutcliffe is a better player, or had a better league. Just trying to back up my argument that there is no value in Lehane at 13/8 and value in Sutcliffe at 16/1.

0-7 against Waterford
0-3 against Dublin
0-5 against Galway
0-1 against Kilkenny
1-2 against Tipperary
0-2 against Tipperary
0-0 against Kilkenny

Mountainlad · 22-05-2012 3:38pm

premierstone wrote: »

Re. Seamie Callinan, club hurling and intercounty are two completely different games and played at the opposite end of the callender year, have a look at Lar Corbett's form at club level, its nothing short of shocking.

COM on the list is hardly that absurd, he is the CB for the second favourites for the AI, has 2 allstars in that position and at 27 should be in he's prime, I dont think he will win it myself but certainly stranger things have happened.

Conor McGrath is an excellent talent and I quite fancy Clare to upset Waterford in the Munster Semi, that would mean he would be then in a Munster Final and would also be having an appearance in Croke Park, why is that anymore ludicrous than Joe Canning, what are Galway going to win this year??

I'd probably agree about Canning but he'll always have the media onside.

Clare may well upset us, I don't mean to sound arrogant with that but can you really see them advancing as far as an all-ireland semi, which you yourself have said is when player of the year begins to be decided?

I won't entertain Conor O'Mahony as a suggestion for player of the year, I would put everything I own (admittedly not an awful lot in the scheme of things) on him not even being nominated. Can't remember the last time someone said he'd an outstanding game, and I've seen him mix playing well enough with being poor.

As for Callinan, he's still young and no doubt has the talent, but to be fair Premier you can understand why I'd be at the very least reserved about him, given some of his performances for the county. Wouldn't see him as a big game player, which is what you need to be to win Player of The Year. We've all heard of the lad that's flying in training before, doesn't mean he'll win player of the year, though he could well be in contention for an all-star because he has the talent I just don't see two back to back truly excellent performances from him at the business end of the year.

Mountainlad · 22-05-2012 3:44pm

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

It's taken me about a day to try and work out this little riddle. The odds imply that Lehane is over 6 times as likely to receive Young Hurler of the Year than Sutcliffe, I can't agree with that and I can't see any value whatsoever in Lehane, but if you think he is more than 38% likely to win the award then fill your boots. I defnitely see Sutcliffe as more than a 6% shout.

It's fairly widely accepted, the last quotes below are from Ryan O'Dwyer and Sutcliffe himself on the matter.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0312/1224313151433.html

Lehane finished with three points, but his contribution was bettered by Dublin wing forward Danny Sutcliffe, named at centrefield but switched with Simon Lambert, on just his second league outing. Including a rhythmic three points from play in four minutes, the St Jude’s man shot five to land the TG4 Man of the Match award.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2012/0328/sport/no-fear-of-leagues-being-hurt-188627.html

especially the likes of Danny Sutcliffe, who has starred against John Gardiner and Tommy Walsh.

http://www.southernstar.ie/article.php?id=3321

It was rough justice on the Dubs, who looked the better team for long stretches of the second half when Danny Sutcliffe made a huge impact against John Gardiner, who was way off the pace at wing back for Cork.

http://www.munsterfans.com/threads/8581-The-GAA-Thread/page296?p=1040177&viewfull=1#post1040177

Danny Sutcliffe from Dublin has taken john gardiner and Tommy Walsh to the cleaners in the last 3 weeks.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0328/1224314004649.html

http://www.reservoirdubs.com/forum/index.php/topic,14209.msg522500.html?PHPSESSID=96bfe1d2fa735cd47140796d860a8c27#msg522500

Sutcliffe was terrific. Destroyed John Gardiner. We have a real talent here.

“Danny Sutcliffe, like, he goes out one week and plays wing back against Galway and plays a stormer. Goes out against Cork and John Gardiner is taken off. How often do you see that?

“I was joking with Danny in the showers after and I said, ‘Jeez, when I was playing with Tipp, John Gardiner finished my Tipp career, you’re after finishing his Cork career’.”

http://www.theliberty.ie/2012/05/01/danny-sutcliffe-previews-dublins-chances-in-the-shl/

“Having watched people like John Gardiner and Tommy Walsh for years on television it felt great to finally pit myself against them.”

I re-watched the game this morning. Sutcliffe was on Gardiner from about 30mins in, when he had a goal chance saved in the 35th minute (subsequently got a point) and when he scored three points in four minutes (48th to 53rd minute) in the second half. He was given Man of the Match too, despite the defeat (and Lehane was very impressive also). Had been one of Dublins best players in a poor overall performance in Salthill in the previous outing, and was certainly Man of the Match the next week against Kilkenny also.

0-1 against Galway
0-5 against Cork
2-3 against Kilkenny
0-2 against Tipperary
0-1 against Waterford
0-3 against Galway (0-0 in the replay)

Averaging 3.0 points per game to Lehane's 3.3, in a team that was relegated thats not a bad return at all. I'm not arguing that Sutcliffe is a better player, or had a better league. Just trying to back up my argument that there is no value in Lehane at 13/8 and value in Sutcliffe at 16/1.

0-7 against Waterford
0-3 against Dublin
0-5 against Galway
0-1 against Kilkenny
1-2 against Tipperary
0-2 against Tipperary
0-0 against Kilkenny

Fair enough, I watched it on tv and obviously got it wrong. Don't get me wrong he was outstanding against Cork, and I'd loved to have seen him against Kilkenny but I could see Cork progressing further than Dublin, and I just think Lehane is different class. My point was there would be no point in betting on someone that won't win. Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit but there's a reason the bookies have stretched Sutcliffe's odds out that little bit further I reckon.

I look forward to watching both this summer though, exciting to see such good young hurlers.

premierstone · 22-05-2012 3:53pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

I'd probably agree about Canning but he'll always have the media onside.

Clare may well upset us, I don't mean to sound arrogant with that but can you really see them advancing as far as an all-ireland semi, which you yourself have said is when player of the year begins to be decided?

I won't entertain Conor O'Mahony as a suggestion for player of the year, I would put everything I own (admittedly not an awful lot in the scheme of things) on him not even being nominated. Can't remember the last time someone said he'd an outstanding game, and I've seen him mix playing well enough with being poor.

As for Callinan, he's still young and no doubt has the talent, but to be fair Premier you can understand why I'd be at the very least reserved about him, given some of his performances for the county. Wouldn't see him as a big game player, which is what you need to be to win Player of The Year. We've all heard of the lad that's flying in training before, doesn't mean he'll win player of the year, though he could well be in contention for an all-star because he has the talent I just don't see two back to back truly excellent performances from him at the business end of the year.

The Canning thing has been snowballing now for the last three years and its a joke, he's brother was one of if not the best corner back I have ever seen and never got a fraction of the hyperbole that surrounds Joe, of course this is not Cannings fault himself.

I have never really seen COM been poor for Tipp tbh, possibly was for one or two games after he came back from the viral infection, he isnt your swashbuckling type CB and thats probably why he doesnt make the headlines but he is very very rarely beaten by he's direct opponent, very simailar to Brain Hogan.

I know what you are saying about Callinan and in previous years he would frustrate the life out of you and looked like he was afraid to go in to a dark room, but I have seen him in action recently and he has really developed physically and personally I think he and Pa Bourke could have massive years, we'll have to wait and see, roll on Sunday

randd1 · 22-05-2012 4:08pm

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Lehane by a country mile

He was kept very quiet in the league final which would suggest he's still a bit raw, the early front-runner though all the same the way he's played overall.

Most likely to be either him, Sweetnam, or Kilkenny's Richie Doyle or Cillian Buckley on current form.

I have a sneaking suspicion for Sweetnam as I think Cork need him to be the one to lead them from midfield this year, they don't look the same side without his pace, drive and directness in midfield.

Though if Doyle keeps his place in the Kilkenny lineup this summer he'll be (most likely) playing in the bigger matches which could tip it for him.

MrJoeSoap · 22-05-2012 4:31pm

Mountainlad wrote: »

I'd loved to have seen him against Kilkenny

Possibly the best game of hurling I've ever seen, definitely up there with the best of the Cork-Waterford or Kilkenny-Tipp games over the past few years. When I found out there hadn't been a camera at it I lost the plot. I'd have watched that match for years to come, same way I do with the 2004 Munster final, 2007 Cork-Waterford games, and more recently, the 2009 and 2010 All-Ireland finals. It was that good a game.

Anyway, way off-topic, sorry!

Mountainlad · 22-05-2012 4:47pm

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Possibly the best game of hurling I've ever seen, definitely up there with the best of the Cork-Waterford or Kilkenny-Tipp games over the past few years. When I found out there hadn't been a camera at it I lost the plot. I'd have watched that match for years to come, same way I do with the 2004 Munster final, 2007 Cork-Waterford games, and more recently, the 2009 and 2010 All-Ireland finals. It was that good a game.

Anyway, way off-topic, sorry!

I remember the same thing happened in 2003 when Waterford drew with Limerick 4-13 a piece, Flynn scored an unbelievable goal that day. It also had the worst refereeing performance I've ever seen, and all this is basically forgotten now on account of some fire safety issue with where the cameras usually are in Thurles.

Sweetnam will probably be in contention as well, he was excellent when he came on against Kilkenny in the League final.

MrJoeSoap · 23-05-2012 1:55am

Mountainlad wrote: »

I remember the same thing happened in 2003 when Waterford drew with Limerick 4-13 a piece, Flynn scored an unbelievable goal that day.

A real hero of mine, Paul Flynn. Genuinely nice guy and a serious hurler. The goal in 2004 against Cork is probably my favourite GAA goal of all-time.

dastardly00 · 23-05-2012 11:22am

Joe Canning is currently in the lead in the poll ...... wtf???

adrian522 · 23-05-2012 11:52am

I reckon Richie Power is more likely than any of those to win HOTY, playing very well up until he got injured and assuming he stays fit I think he has a great chance of winning it.

MrJoeSoap · 23-05-2012 11:58am

dastardly00 wrote: »

Joe Canning is currently in the lead in the poll ...... wtf???

Lots of Tribesmen on boards!

dastardly00 · 23-05-2012 12:12pm

adrian522 wrote: »

I reckon Richie Power is more likely than any of those to win HOTY, playing very well up until he got injured and assuming he stays fit I think he has a great chance of winning it.

That would be my opinion as well. He's becoming more and more important for KK.

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Lots of Tribesmen on boards!

There must be!! :pac:

Diabhal Beag · 23-05-2012 12:24pm

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Lots of Tribesmen on boards!

The thinking with Joe Canning is probably due to how well he played against Dublin.

premierstone · 23-05-2012 12:54pm

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

The thinking with Joe Canning is probably due to how well he played against Dublin.

Relegation playoffs wouldn't hold too much weight and if they did then surely Damien Hayes would be topping the poll??

Fireball07 · 23-05-2012 1:09pm

Is Power not injured for the season??

adrian522 · 23-05-2012 1:20pm

No, He should be back for championship.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0501/1224315407564.html

Kojak · 24-05-2012 2:01am

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

The thinking with Joe Canning is probably due to how well he played against Dublin.

Maybe, but it won't count for anything come championship time. If he were to keep up that form later on in the year, then he would be in strong contention for an All-Star, but not HOTY.

At the present moment in time, Eoin Larkin is probably the favourite, although if Richie Power comes back to action soon, I think he could well be the winner of HOTY.

A lot of it depends on who wins the AI - Corbett won it in 2010, yet imo Michael Fennelly was the best hurler that year.

MrJoeSoap · 24-05-2012 2:13am

Kojak wrote: »

Maybe, but it won't count for anything come championship time. If he were to keep up that form later on in the year, then he would be in strong contention for an All-Star, but not HOTY.

At the present moment in time, Eoin Larkin is probably the favourite, although if Richie Power comes back to action soon, I think he could well be the winner of HOTY.

A lot of it depends on who wins the AI - Corbett won it in 2010, yet imo Michael Fennelly was the best hurler that year.

Power is 5/1, Larkin is 10/1 afaik.

Corbett scored 6-12 in 6 games in 2010, including a hat-trick in the final. It would have been hard to have given it to anyone else after the final. You're right that the final does have a huge impact on the decision.

Only Tony Browne and Dan Shanahan have won it without winning the All-Ireland the same year.

Yeboah · 24-05-2012 10:42am

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Power is 5/1, Larkin is 10/1 afaik.

Corbett scored 6-12 in 6 games in 2010, including a hat-trick in the final. It would have been hard to have given it to anyone else after the final. You're right that the final does have a huge impact on the decision.

Only Tony Browne and Dan Shanahan have won it without winning the All-Ireland the same year.

Brian Corcoran 92 also off top of my head

premierstone · 24-05-2012 11:22am

Kojak wrote: »

A lot of it depends on who wins the AI - Corbett won it in 2010, yet imo Michael Fennelly was the best hurler that year.

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Corbett scored 6-12 in 6 games in 2010, including a hat-trick in the final. It would have been hard to have given it to anyone else after the final.

Corbett was very fortunate to get it in 2010, but in no way shape or form was Michael Fennelly better than Brendan Maher in 2010, Brendan was imperious that year, and even stood out in the mauling in Cork.

Kojak · 24-05-2012 11:49am

premierstone wrote: »

Corbett was very fortunate to get it in 2010, but in no way shape or form was Michael Fennelly better than Brendan Maher in 2010, Brendan was imperious that year, and even stood out in the mauling in Cork.

Yeah, actually you are right about Maher - but it would have been nearly umimaginable that the awards for Young Hurler of the year and HOTY would go to the same person, no matter how good he was.

Has any player actually won both these arwards in the same year?

MrJoeSoap · 24-05-2012 11:56am

Kojak wrote: »

Has any player actually won both these arwards in the same year?

Nope.

dastardly00 · 24-05-2012 11:58am

Kojak wrote: »

Yeah, actually you are right about Maher - but it would have been nearly umimaginable that the awards for Young Hurler of the year and HOTY would go to the same person, no matter how good he was.

Has any player actually won both these arwards in the same year?

I've had a look back through past winners and I can't find anybody who has won HOTY and YHOTY.
I'd say it's a case of the judges wanting to celebrate two players rather than one player not being good enough to win both awards.

MrJoeSoap · 24-05-2012 12:11pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

I've had a look back through past winners and I can't find anybody who has won HOTY and YHOTY.
I'd say it's a case of the judges wanting to celebrate two players rather than one player not being good enough to win both awards.

Since 1995, there hasn't been anyone to win Young Hurler of the Year and then go on to win Hurler of the Year. They really do like to spread out the awards.

The only players to have won two awards are Shefflin (HOTY in 2002 and 2006) and Eoin Kelly (YHOTY in 2001 and 2002). Maybe I should forget about that Larkin bet...

adrian522 · 24-05-2012 12:35pm

Pretty sure brian corcoran has 2 HOTY awards (1992 and 1999). DJ Carey too (1993 and 2000)

MrJoeSoap · 24-05-2012 12:48pm

adrian522 wrote: »

Pretty sure brian corcoran has 2 HOTY awards (1992 and 1999). DJ Carey too (1993 and 2000)

I did say since 95, when the All Stars Hurler of the Year began.

dastardly00 · 24-05-2012 5:20pm

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Since 1995, there hasn't been anyone to win Young Hurler of the Year and then go on to win Hurler of the Year. They really do like to spread out the awards.

The only players to have won two awards are Shefflin (HOTY in 2002 and 2006) and Eoin Kelly (YHOTY in 2001 and 2002). Maybe I should forget about that Larkin bet...

Larkin is probably the most fit in-form player at the moment. He is revelling at being the captain of the team and scored 3-20 in the league this year (3-11 from play). I never thought he would be a full-forward but it is suiting him at the moment.
Obviously HOTY will be decided during the latter stages of the championship and not during the league etc.

dastardly00 · 24-05-2012 5:32pm

There's an interesting enough article in the Indo from last week where Vincent Hogan picks his All-Star team based on performances in the 2012 NHL.

Of the potential winners of HOTY that are in this thread's poll, only 3 are named in the All-Star team: Maher, Lehane and Larkin.

(The team was: 1 David Herity, 2 Paul Murphy, 3 JJ Delaney, 4 Niall Corcoran, 5 Richie Doyle, 6 Eoin Cadogan, 7 Padraic Maher, 8 David Burke, 9 Darren Sweetnam, 10 Conor Lehane, 11 Niall Burke, 12 TJ Reid, 13 Colin Fennelly, 14 Richie Power, 15 Eoin Larkin)

dirtyden · 24-05-2012 7:10pm

Vincent Hogan really does not have a clue though.

MrJoeSoap · 24-05-2012 7:16pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

There's an interesting enough article in the Indo from last week where Vincent Hogan picks his All-Star team based on performances in the 2012 NHL.

Of the potential winners of HOTY that are in this thread's poll, only 3 are named in the All-Star team: Maher, Lehane and Larkin.

(The team was: 1 David Herity, 2 Paul Murphy, 3 JJ Delaney, 4 Niall Corcoran, 5 Richie Doyle, 6 Eoin Cadogan, 7 Padraic Maher, 8 David Burke, 9 Darren Sweetnam, 10 Conor Lehane, 11 Niall Burke, 12 TJ Reid, 13 Colin Fennelly, 14 Richie Power, 15 Eoin Larkin)

I normally agree with Hogan on most things, but no Sutcliffe in the team is fairly laughable. Not really his fault given that the KK game wasn't televised though.

MrJoeSoap · 24-05-2012 7:18pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

Larkin is probably the most fit in-form player at the moment. He is revelling at being the captain of the team and scored 3-20 in the league this year (3-11 from play). I never thought he would be a full-forward but it is suiting him at the moment.
Obviously HOTY will be decided during the latter stages of the championship and not during the league etc.

I'm with you on this by the way, totally agree and in my first post on this thread I mentioned him. I voted for him also.

I was just referring to the likelihood that the award wouldn't be given to a player who had already won it. For Larkin to win it he'd really need to be head and shoulders above the rest.

ebbsy · 24-05-2012 10:54pm

Bosco O' Neill ?

Martin567 · 25-05-2012 4:49pm

dirtyden wrote: »

Vincent Hogan really does not have a clue though.

Yes, you're right. The person who set up this poll and didn't include Richie Power would obviously be a lot more knowledgeable.:rolleyes:

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