Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

stuar wrote: »

Yea fly by wire, computer controlled everything, boeing being a big US military contractor and all that.......

Do you know what fly by wire actually means? And that the Airbus A320 pioneered it for mass produced civil aircraft?

Hi guys, some of yous know me from the other thread in Aviation. I have decided to move here as it has become too restrictive there, and I do think there is a possibility this plane is not at all where they are saying it is. In the other thread it is to be assumed the plane crashed in IO only.

I don't quite know what I think , tbh.
I'm open to every theory.
Ocean, land, crashed, or not ...
I think the timeline is such now that imo the passengers cannot be alive (simply because it would be too costly, troublesome, to feed and mind them all that time).

My own hunch initially was that it had taken a Northern route.
I think there is a bunch of countries up there that would absolutely loathe to admit that their defence system, their radar coverage (or operational coverage as in, radar data might be there, but not examined as it should, not manned as it should be, or human error happened) is or was inadequate : Bangladesh, Myanmar (Burma), Bhutan, Nepal, and even India ... There is a channel there that may have allowed an aircraft through to the wilderness of China's plains and deserts (whose radar coverage of that area again we don't know). From there Kyrgyzstan is not too far (relatively speaking), and there are airports in troubled areas there where the plane could have landed. For example near this lake, which used to be a touristy area (looks lovely), but I gather it has now lost its tourism potential due to political/insurgent problems. Here's a landing strip there (there's a better one in the bigger town to the East of the lake) https://maps.google.ie/maps?hl=en&ll=42.581526,76.719503&spn=0.036971,0.084543&t=h&z=14


I have read a good bit about Myanmar (Burma, but I think they prefer the name Myanmar nowadays), and was trying to find out how good or bad their radar coverage is.
It seems they went from very very poor (defense), to somewhat acceptable, especially along the Thai border.
I am saying somewhat acceptable, because I did find a good few references to them acquiring radar equipment from North Korea, but on the other hand there are still articles on how poorly electrified the whole country is for example. Along the way I might just mention that when they got this equipment, they also got whatever else, weapons, etc... and I think were educated in the art of making tunnels to hide weapons and aircraft, in North Korea. Thing is, some of the articles made reference to the 80s/90s, some were from 2008 or so. So I don't know, in terms of technology, if the equipment they purchased then, would be considered obsolete or still useful nowadays.
Here's one of the articles for reference, it's very interesting, and the Irrawaddy has more to read on : http://www2.irrawaddy.org/print_article.php?art_id=16219 Either way, I think with the amount of "leaked" information about this upgrade of their defense system, it would be an awful demonstration of vulnerability for them to now have to admit that a commercial plane crossed the country unnoticed.

Anyway, sorry this is very long, I just wanted to share what I have (or some).

Someone in the aviation thread linked to the pprune site (http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-513.html) , hinting that it was a pilots' site and therefore there would be none of the nonsense of CT, but ironically, I have found a lot of people hinting at the same notions that a hijack could have happened, and taking that a bit further.

On Pprune I came across this link this evening which was my first reason for posting here : http://www.duncansteel.com/archives/507

A northerly route for MH370 deep into central Asia cannot be excluded on the basis of the publicly-available Inmarsat-3F1 satellite data.

There you go, that's me for now, as I said I have no strong belief in any theory, but am open to all (I've no fixed opinion on hijack motive either if it was one).
Hope the links above might be interesting to some.

I agree on the lying part sopretty, the misinformation ...

The only quick answer that was given about the cargo for example, that I could find, was that there was 3/4 tons of mangosteen on board (fruit), but I have seen some commenting that this particular fruit was not in season in Malaysia at the time, and that the provenance could not be confirmed. Haven't been able to find out more about that, but it's really strange to me that a commercial plane should be carrying a large shipment of fruit and nothing else. And if there was something else, then what else ? The mangosteen was the only answer in that video clip.

They could be lying just to cover up their incompetence, and there might not be any conspiracy on their part. Or there might indeed be a lot more than meets the eye to the failed radar detection, the initial search in the wrong place, etc...

I wouldn't be as strong worded as you as regards the pilots sopretty, some seem ok and helpful, but I have to say there is a level of arrogance over there all right. I can understand them getting annoyed at people who don't have the same technical knowledge, but that's not an excuse for the behaviour I have seen in that thread.

But that's OT here, so that's the end of these comments here for me.

Malaysian authorities now saying their Military Radar they picked up the plane, although they are not saying for how long they tracked it. As for other Countries radar, a lot of the them are down 1/2 the time or not watched closely. All it takes is someone to fall asleep, happens all the time in the middle of the night in that area, but they will never admit it.

As far as stowaways, I believe there were a couple on this plane, probably from ground personnel, like food, fueling, cleaning, baggage services. They were in the electronics bay most likely and they had help from a couple of "passengers" once airborne. As for entry into the cockpit, with a a few hijackers on board, they would have probably had the tools or a small localized explosive charge to blow the lock open or they just waited until one of the pilots opened the door. They could have had a flight attendant ask for the captain to come out too. The hijackers flew the plane either west or north. Plane very easily could have made SW Iran.

I believe that The plane is not in the water, but we shall see eventually.

sopretty wrote: »

That's assuming that you believe that nobody tracked the plane in that area. I know no country has admitted to it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that no country observed it. The US has (as far as I've read), refused to hand over their radar information in relation to the flight. Then again, it's hard to know what to believe!

Not really, not sure which bases have radar capability and even if they do, how sophisticated it is and the ranges, etc... hijackers would know that info is my guess... If this plane was hijacked, it was planning years in the making

It is a nice map though... shows the issues in that whole region