Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

15-08-2012 8:58pm

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I can still see Arsenal finishing in the top four because your club seems to be like a conver belt of players you sell one and yous have some young fellow ready to take his place . I actually think Arsenal have a better team then last season and the best thing for you's is the fact yous aren't relying on an injury prone player to score the majority of your goals .

Top four has not, is not and never will be a trophy.

That's what I want. This top four is a load of b*llox.

If you're top four, you should be challenging for the trophy. You don't sell your best player to another challenger, making the stronger.

Simple as that.

kryogen · 15-08-2012 8:58pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

He wouldnt fit in at Arsenal. I wouldnt be surprised if its true as United would then have five strikers and Rooney is automatic starter so its four into one. At his age he'll want to be playing. Wouldnt be surprised if Welbeck is upset too.

At least that could be a positive. Upsetting the United dressing room :pac:

Berba is sure to be gone so its just Rooney, Van Persie, Welbeck and Hernandez, they will get game time, not as much as I would like I grant you, Also, Rooney, Welbz and RVP can play in a couple of positions so they are guaranteed to get plenty of game time imo, Chico could be the odd man out alright.

gnfnrhead · 15-08-2012 8:59pm

dvemail wrote: »

Apparently Wenger told French TV he was sold for over €30million.

£23.5m.

What the fcuk is he doing in France anyway?

Sergio · 15-08-2012 8:59pm

robby^5 wrote: »

I think that's a poor attitude. No player is bigger than the club.

My attitude is poor???You should be questioning the attitude of the people who own AFC not me.Their attitude is appauling in my opinion.:rolleyes:

robby^5 · 15-08-2012 8:59pm

dvemail wrote: »

Apparently Wenger told French TV he was sold for over €30million.

That'd be consistent with the £24million being reported.

Sergio wrote: »

My attitude is poor???You should be questioning the attitude of the people who own AFC not me.Their attitude is appauling in my opinion.:rolleyes:

What else could they have done? Nobody else was interested in buying him and he doesn't want to be at the club.

tayto lover · 15-08-2012 8:59pm

robby^5 wrote: »

I think that's a poor attitude. No player is bigger than the club.

The club is not so big anymore and have been selling their best players to rivals for the last number of years. Big clubs don't do that and the exodus of players is proof of that. We are a selling club and only interested in profits for our shareholders.

KaiserGunner · 15-08-2012 8:59pm

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Girioud + Podolski + Cazorla > RvP so at least we haven't weakened our team this year (unless of course Song goes without bringing in anyone)

It's a shame about Sahin though.

I hope thats the case, but how do we know? Podolski and Giroud could take ages to settle in, we are going into another season with uncertainties again. RVP was a proven goalscorer for us, we shouldnt have sold him as we need to settle in the new lads. Is sickening though that RVP wore the captains armband on sunday :mad:

wonga77 · 15-08-2012 8:59pm

dvemail wrote: »

Apparently Wenger told French TV he was sold for over €30million.

24 mill gbp is about €30.5 or a little over

emergingstar · 15-08-2012 8:59pm

We sold rvp we signed giroud and podiski
If we sell song we need a replacement got him
Maybe one more midfielder and were stronger than last season

How are we not showing ambition we knew he was going and got our signings in early

I think the club is doing very good this summer no complaints so far

gnfnrhead · 15-08-2012 9:00pm

kryogen wrote: »

Berba is sure to be gone so its just Rooney, Van Persie, Welbeck and Hernandez, they will get game time, not as much as I would like I grant you, Also, Rooney, Welbz and RVP can play in a couple of positions so they are guaranteed to get plenty of game time imo, Chico could be the odd man out alright.

Didnt Berbatov just get his contract extended? Havent heard of any interest in him since.

andrew241983 · 15-08-2012 9:00pm

Treachery will come home to
the traitor!!!!

ziggyman17 · 15-08-2012 9:00pm

From another site..

Apparently:

£15m with add-ons (unlikely to go above £20m)
£150k a week
Juve and City both bid the same amount, City offered higher wages but he only wanted to join utd.

dvemail · 15-08-2012 9:01pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

£23.5m.

What the fcuk is he doing in France anyway?

Reporting on a the France v Uruguay match as far as i know.

Marty McFly · 15-08-2012 9:02pm

Maire2009 · 15-08-2012 9:03pm

Trilla wrote: »

Where did you see or hear this?

Some journalists reporting it on Twitter - can't really verify. I see if I can find a tweet from a known journo.

robby^5 · 15-08-2012 9:03pm

tayto lover wrote: »

The club is not so big anymore and have been selling their best players to rivals for the last number of years. Big clubs don't do that and the exodus of players is proof of that. We are a selling club and only interested in profits for our shareholders.

I didn't say anything about how big the club was, but since you mentioned it Arsenal is as big as it's ever been.

We're a selling club? As if we couldn't wait to cash in on RvP...tripe. We wanted to keep him and sign him for the long term, he made sure that it wasn't possible. Club is not at fault here and have done remarkably well to get the money they did.

kryogen · 15-08-2012 9:04pm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Didnt Berbatov just get his contract extended? Havent heard of any interest in him since.

No, his contract was extended by the club in Feb/March, stops him leaving on a free, there has been interest from England, France, Russia and Germany, apparently Milan also, Berba has said he will be leaving.

He deserves a lot better then how he is treated at the club and I just hope he gets himself a good team

tayto lover · 15-08-2012 9:06pm

robby^5 wrote: »

I didn't say anything about how big the club was, but since you mentioned it Arsenal is as big as it's ever been.

We're a selling club? As if we couldn't wait to cash in on RvP...tripe.

How many Captains have we sold now ? They deserted the sinking ship for trophies. We have won none since 2005. The sinking ship is being deserted annually BUT sure we are happy with Top 4 so what harm :rolleyes:

bad2dabone · 15-08-2012 9:07pm

tayto lover wrote: »

The club is not so big anymore and have been selling their best players to rivals for the last number of years. Big clubs don't do that and the exodus of players is proof of that. We are a selling club and only interested in profits for our shareholders.

while its impossible to ignore that we've sold some top players lets look at them:
Fab - wanted to go back to barcelona his home club and best team in the world. Can't blame him and hard to keep an unhappy player on board
Nasri: Merc, disruptive, better off without.
RvP: you can't make a player sign a deal. He's not got the greatest personality in the world and would surely be a bad influence in the dressing room if he stuck around. Selling him was the only option. The team have had a buzz about them and were getting on like a house on fire in pre season, having a grumpy RvP on board would be bad for that.

We need to hit the ground running though, no doubt about it. And we need to buy another player.

iMuse · 15-08-2012 9:08pm

Being reported in other places that the fee was 22M up front with 2M in add ons

Maire2009 · 15-08-2012 9:08pm

Okay it was this guy apparently that started it - doesn't seem that reliable https://twitter.com/MikaMartinHaim

jonneymendoza · 15-08-2012 9:11pm

hope rvp gets injured. sickening he is

Snakeblood · 15-08-2012 9:12pm

iMuse wrote: »

Here we go again....

He also didn't know who Cazorla was. I'll see what happens. It's disappointing RVP left but the window isn't closed.

emergingstar · 15-08-2012 9:13pm

jonneymendoza wrote: »

hope rvp gets injured. sickening he is

Now now he got us champions league football this season

shano_88 · 15-08-2012 9:14pm

jonneymendoza wrote: »

hope rvp gets injured. sickening he is

I'm disappointed too but no need for these types of statements.

Pierce_1991 · 15-08-2012 9:15pm

tayto lover wrote: »

How many Captains have we sold now ? They deserted the sinking ship for trophies. We have won none since 2005. The sinking ship is being deserted annually BUT sure we are happy with Top 4 so what harm :rolleyes:

Sinking ship implies we're gradually doing worse, we did better last year than the previous season.
Stop being so dramatic, we sold one player, for a decent price, after a Summer where we've signed 3 quality players.
This Summer we saw that RVP was not the guy we thought he was, frankly I don't want a player with his attitude at the club. We'll do absolutely fine next year. The obsession with winning trophies in the short term needs to stop. We are getting better, we will be back at the top in a few years.

Mr Blobby · 15-08-2012 9:15pm

jonneymendoza wrote: »

hope rvp gets injured. sickening he is

:eek: Bit far there mate.....

robby^5 · 15-08-2012 9:15pm

tayto lover wrote: »

How many Captains have we sold now ? They deserted the sinking ship for trophies. We have won none since 2005. The sinking ship is being deserted annually BUT sure we are happy with Top 4 so what harm :rolleyes:

Sinking ship are you mad? You support one of the elite clubs in Europe, you have no idea what a club in peril is. We're much stronger this year than last, in every sense.

Marty McFly · 15-08-2012 9:17pm

blobby360 wrote: »

:eek: Bit far there mate.....

I dont see how it is a bit far, fcuk yeh i want see him get injured the traitor. Its not like people are saying they want him to die or something. But do I want see him score 30 goals for United fcuk no injuries all they way thank you very much.

tayto lover · 15-08-2012 9:18pm

emergingstar wrote: »

Now now he got us champions league football this season

You could also say that about Benayoun in fairness.

The only disappointing thing about all this is that he has gone to Utd. Wenger should have stuck to his guns and refused to sell to them. Utd never worry about money or what they play for players while Arsenal count every fcuking cent.

G.K. · 15-08-2012 9:18pm

Wishing injuries on players is totally uncalled for. There will be cards if it happens again.

batistuta9 · 15-08-2012 9:21pm

G.K. wrote: »

Wishing injuries on players is totally uncalled for. There will be cards if it happens again.

what? :pac::pac::pac:

tayto lover · 15-08-2012 9:22pm

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

Sinking ship implies we're gradually doing worse, we did better last year than the previous season.
Stop being so dramatic, we sold one player, for a decent price, after a Summer where we've signed 3 quality players.
This Summer we saw that RVP was not the guy we thought he was, frankly I don't want a player with his attitude at the club. We'll do absolutely fine next year. The obsession with winning trophies in the short term needs to stop. We are getting better, we will be back at the top in a few years.

O.k. then, it's only listing badly. Trophies is what the game is about. Nobody remembers 2nd, 3rd or 4th in my opinion.

jonneymendoza · 15-08-2012 9:22pm

blobby360 wrote: »

:eek: Bit far there mate.....

u reckon? the guy has slated us publicaly and now gone to one of our main rivals.

batistuta9 · 15-08-2012 9:22pm

tayto lover wrote: »

You could also say that about Benayoun in fairness.

The only disappointing thing about all this is that he has gone to Utd. Wenger should have stuck to his guns and refused to sell to them. Utd never worry about money or what they play for players while Arsenal count every fcuking cent.

in fairness you'd hardly want the club to end up like leeds or portsmouth

emergingstar · 15-08-2012 9:25pm

tayto lover wrote: »

emergingstar wrote: »

Now now he got us champions league football this season

You could also say that about Benayoun in fairness.

The only disappointing thing about all this is that he has gone to Utd. Wenger should have stuck to his guns and refused to sell to them. Utd never worry about money or what they play for players while Arsenal count every fcuking cent.

Would rather it was not utd either
But 24m for a 29yr old with 11 months left on his contract and was pushing his way out is excellent business
We just need a couple of more players and it will be a brilliant summer and sets u up nicely for the coming season

jonneymendoza · 15-08-2012 9:25pm

G.K. wrote: »

Wishing injuries on players is totally uncalled for. There will be cards if it happens again.

sorry man

L'prof · 15-08-2012 9:27pm

Wouldn't wish any injuries on him at all, but I do hope to feck that he extends his trophyless run until the day he retires!

bad2dabone · 15-08-2012 9:28pm

tayto lover wrote: »

O.k. then, it's only listing badly. Trophies is what the game is about. Nobody remembers 2nd, 3rd or 4th in my opinion.

aye we defo need to win a trophy, we're behind City in the league, probably chelsea too if they hit their stride, i'd bet this is the last year for Fergie and United really will feel his loss badly. I'd fancy us for the FA cup, and a decent CL run, the return of Wilshere fit and healthy and a decent backup for Sagna and I'll consider this season a success.

tayto lover · 15-08-2012 9:29pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

in fairness you'd hardly want the club to end up like leeds or portsmouth

Nor do I want to see us as a feeder club and that's the reputation we are getting now. It's becoming a laughing stock with our rivals in fairness if you read some of the blogs.

dvemail · 15-08-2012 9:31pm

https://twitter.com/TotallyArsenal/status/235835508033474560/photo/1

Also Cazorla starts for Spain.

Marty McFly · 15-08-2012 9:35pm

bad2dabone wrote: »

aye we defo need to win a trophy, we're behind City in the league, probably chelsea too if they hit their stride, i'd bet this is the last year for Fergie and United really will feel his loss badly. I'd fancy us for the FA cup, and a decent CL run, the return of Wilshere fit and healthy and a decent backup for Sagna and I'll consider this season a success.

I honestly dont think we need a back up for Sagna, i was impressed with Jenkinson last year, plus Yennaris and Coq can play there, bring in a holding midfielder and attackers for me

Sergio · 15-08-2012 9:37pm

Lads who do we think will be our new captain for the coming season. If Thomas Vermaelen can keep fit then i think he fits the bill,what you guys think?

shano_88 · 15-08-2012 9:37pm

Right where would you invest the money given a chance?

Maire2009 · 15-08-2012 9:37pm

A sinking ship is Rangers they have sunk! We're just on a plateau - we get top four, we get to the latter stages of the cups, but we can't push that extra bit to win something.

bad2dabone · 15-08-2012 9:38pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Nor do I want to see us as a feeder club and that's the reputation we are getting now. It's becoming a laughing stock with our rivals in fairness if you read some of the blogs.

yeah that's the jibe that really gets me too. It's why we need a trophy. we're successful financially, we need to be successful on the pitch too, it's the only way we'll hold on to our top players in the era of Moneybags like City,Chelsea and PSG.

I think though there's been a real shift in attitude from us this year, signing 3 top internationals is a huge step forward from signing unknown youths (although last year I remember being outraged at 15m for Ox, now I love the guy).

I hope the Van Persie money is spent and not just disappeared down the black hole.

gosplan · 15-08-2012 9:40pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Nor do I want to see us as a feeder club and that's the reputation we are getting now. It's becoming a laughing stock with our rivals in fairness if you read some of the blogs.

Stop reading blogs about other clubs.

We signed Giroud to replace RVP and it's not worth 24 million just to bench him for a year.

I get that it grates but RVP made his position untenable.

It strengthens man u sure, but not by that much. I'd be far more annoyed right now if they signed song.

gnfnrhead · 15-08-2012 9:43pm

Some birthday present for Chamberlain this is. Turns 19 today. Hard to believe he is still so young.

Sergio wrote: »

Lads who do we think will be our new captain for the coming season. If Thomas Vermaelen can keep fit then i think he fits the bill,what you guys think?

Sagna would be my choice but it'll likely be Vermaelen alright.

gosplan · 15-08-2012 9:43pm

Marty McFly wrote: »

I honestly dont think we need a back up for Sagna, i was impressed with Jenkinson last year, plus Yennaris and Coq can play there, bring in a holding midfielder and attackers for me

We really don't need another cf though. We're not going to play 442 because we don't have the midfielders for it and we've now got two good options for the single cf spot.

dvemail · 15-08-2012 9:48pm

Hope Walcott doesn't decide to leave now after all of this. Losing him would be another massive loss,
especially going from what ive seen from him pre-season. Has come a long way in the last few years.
Would hate to see him play his best years at another club.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13 MOD POST #232

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