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The Bourne Legacy (Bourne 4)

  • 25-02-2008 1:09pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭


    <H1>Fourth Bourne movie announced

    Monday, February 25 2008, 11:43 GMT
    By Beth Hilton, Entertainment Reporter


    Universal has announced a fourth movie in the hit Bourne franchise.

    Star Matt Damon and director Paul Greengrass will return for the new instalment, reports Variety.

    The pair are currently working together on Iraq-set thriller The Green Zone, after which Damon will shoot Steven Soderbergh’s The Informant.

    Greengrass directed the second and third films in the series, which is based on author Robert Ludlum's trilogy.

    It was reported in 2006 that the franchise may stretch to five movies, but both Damon and Greengrass were reluctant to continue after the third film.

    Damon insisted last year that he was "definitely done" with playing hitman Jason Bourne, saying: "I think we've ridden that horse as far as we can."

    The Bourne Ultimatum won three technical awards at last night's Oscars.
    </H1>
    Great news


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    Good news i reckon, the first three were class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Nice! Enjoyed first three.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    I dunno, sounds like a money move.

    They made Ludlum's trilogy, told Bourne's story, so whats this one going to be on?

    as it stands its a fantastic trilogy, just wouldn't like to see a bastard son lessen it.

    While you do raise a good point, that doesn't mean with a good original script that it can't be a decent film.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Yeah i cant really see what they can do with this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I dunno, sounds like a money move.

    They made Ludlum's trilogy, told Bourne's story, so whats this one going to be on?

    as it stands its a fantastic trilogy, just wouldn't like to see a bastard son lessen it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    I dunno, sounds like a money move.

    They made Ludlum's trilogy, told Bourne's story, so whats this one going to be on?

    as it stands its a fantastic trilogy, just wouldn't like to see a bastard son lessen it.
    The Bourne Relapse? ;)

    Pretty much my thinking of it. Then again, I have no problem with money movies as long as the story is good. It doesn't have to continue the original arc, just the same character in a new situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    Would love to see a prequel movie. See what he was like as an operative


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,250 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    I dunno, sounds like a money move.

    They made Ludlum's trilogy, told Bourne's story, so whats this one going to be on?

    as it stands its a fantastic trilogy, just wouldn't like to see a bastard son lessen it.

    It's a fair point, and I will remain wary, but its not like the original trilogy stuck fantastically closely to the books anyway is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Whoa, glitch in the matrix! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Money money money.
    The story was essentially told in the first two movies,the third added very little .
    I thought the third film was very light on plot on redundant.
    By far the worst of the trilogy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 dave73


    There are more books in the bourne series: Betrayal, Legacy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    KOOL i only watched the first two - first time - yesterday, might watc hthe 3rd tonight


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    User45701 wrote: »
    KOOL i only watched the first two - first time - yesterday, might watc hthe 3rd tonight

    The 3rd is my favourite out of the 3 (only just, they are all class!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    While you do raise a good point, that doesn't mean with a good original script that it can't be a decent film.

    Thats true, and fingers crossed thats how it pans out. It will still be Damon and Greengrass which does give some hope for a quality addition (if they weren't involved id give up hope immediately).

    Id love it to be decent, and im hoping they go for the prequel option. I just really like how the 3rd one ends
    the way he accomplishes what he set out to do and just disappears to live his life in peace like he wanted to after the first movie before being dragged back in - the only ways they can carry on are with either Bourne taking up someone elses cause rather then his own (which doesnt really fit with the first 3 imo when he wasn't looking for a fight), or else the more likely "Bourne is Back for Revenge - Again"
    . Prequel would be awesome though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    dave73 wrote: »
    There are more books in the bourne series: Betrayal, Legacy

    Yeah, but they're not by Ludlum. I've not read them, but the synopsis of them make them sound terrible. Has anyone here read them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    They've made the same movie three times now. A fourth might be stretching it a bit far.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    humanji wrote: »
    Yeah, but they're not by Ludlum. I've not read them, but the synopsis of them make them sound terrible. Has anyone here read them?

    Ive read the first 3, but not the subsequent ones. All the books differ greatly from the films.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Decuc500 wrote: »
    They've made the same movie three times now. A fourth might be stretching it a bit far.
    Have to agree, good films just not spectacular by any means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    I'd be behind this if Doug Liman came back to direct it but not if Greengrass is on board. He took the last Bourne film far too close to the superhero/Bond line for my liking - Bourne became an invincible behemoth, especially in the car chase scene. In the first movie, he is vicious and a killing machine, but everything he does is within the realms of human behaviour and mostly within normal physics. More importantly, he's a character that avoids the stupid scenarios that Bond or Superman would get into - he's more cunning, more intelligent than that. The best scene in Ultimatum is the train station, and the worst is the car chase - the difference it makes to the character is jolting. You never get the feeling watching Identity that it's a series of stunts strung together, like the last one was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Running Bing


    I dont see why they cant make a fourth.

    To me the bourne films are like the James bond series in so far as you know exactly what your gonna get and you dont need more films but you want them just cause their so much fun.


    Thats the thing with bourne, you could argue the 2nd and 3rd films didnt really need to be made and they are pretty similiar to the first. But their just brilliant and I am glad they were made.


    I would have a lot of faith in Greengrass and damon(who certainly doesnt need to do stuff for cash at the moment) and as for it not being based on a ludlum book, thank god I say! Havent read the supremacy or the ultimatum but I know the identity film had very little to do with the book.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    faceman wrote: »
    Ive read the first 3, but not the subsequent ones. All the books differ greatly from the films.

    I think I read somewhere that the movies are based on Carlos the Jackel more than the books :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭rednik


    The whole point of the first book was Carlos the Jackal. But this was changed in the story of the film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭Jello


    I'll definitely go and see it when it's released and I'll probably end up liking it but right now the idea of a fourth Bourne just doesn't appeal to me. The trilogy and ending of Ultimatum seem just right as they are, a fourth would feel too much of what's all been done before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Looked to me like they tied everything up in the third but unfortunatly, I can't see anything stopping them from makeing a fourth.

    Makes me wonder though....is the tradition of the trilogy as we know it dead??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭Petey2006


    I agree with Babybling. The films were fun, they did exactly what I expected them to do, and the third one, for me was the best. Now, that's not to say I necessarily want a forth film. As much as I liked the trilogy, I did raise an eyebrow when I heard about a forth, as the trilogy wrapped up nicely. I guess I'll have to wait and see what the deal with the forth is before I condemn it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Rumoured name for the 4th film....The Bourne Eternity


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    As much as i like the bourne movies I think this is a mistake. If they do make another one they will have to do something different from the other three as the are kinda formulaic.

    cops chasing bourne, car crash, meets bad guy briefly, crunching fight scene etc.

    I think they need to move away from the third one as that was very Enemy of the State/Mission Imposible 1 I felt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    A third sequel in The Bourne Franchise looks to be moving properly ahead, after Universal commissioned co-scripter of The Bourne Ultimatum, George Nolfi, to pen a fourth flick in the outstanding and hugely successful series. Both director Paul Greengrass and Matt Damon said they'd come back if the story was right, so it looks like a quadrilogy for the best spy series ever (Sorry Bond, but you know it's true). Greengrass has previously said of another instalment: "We love it, but none of us would want to go again unless we’re sure there’s a worthwhile film". Giving the ability of both these guys and the fussiness they've both shown with each passing project, this means we're probably in store for another stunning film from them. The lads, who have become good friends, just wrapped The Green Zone together also.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Harrison Ford, Steven Speilberg and George Lucas said they'd do another Indy movie "if the script was right", and they came up with The Crystal Skull, so alarm bells automatically go off in my head when I hear that phrase.

    To be honest, it kind of sounds like they're just covering their bases. If they do make a new one, I hope they put real effort into the script instead of doing Bourne-by-numbers.

    Actually, JP Liz, where did you get that article?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭The Don


    This is the first I've heard of it and to be honest I'm sceptical. The 3rd film wrapped things up nicely but as Karl Hungus said if the script is good then it should be a good film.

    I was sceptical about the 4th Rambo until I saw it and once I did I loved it. We'll just have to wait and see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Meh.. can't go wrong with more Bourne.

    Always fun to watch Jason kick some ass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I'm very sceptical of this to be honest.
    The first 2 films were excellent thrillers but the third was poor ,it lacked a decent plot and was just a rehash of the others with alot of action scenes.
    The guy who co wrote Ultimatum is writing the new one.
    His writing is to say the least very average (Oceans 12,Timeline).
    If they dont rush the project though I'm sure they could come up with a decent plot though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    Director Paul Greengrass has reportedly walked away from the fourth Bourne movie due to disagreements regarding the script and budget concerns.

    Without seeking Greengrass's approval, Universal hired Josh Zetumer to rewrite George Nolfi's screenplay for the next Bourne thriller, reports The Playlist. It is thought that this move as well as Universal's worries over the helmer's budget-management skills contributed to his departure.

    The price tag on Greengrass's forthcoming Green Zone has apparently swelled to almost $150m (£91m) due to reshoots.

    The filmmaker directed 2004's The Bourne Supremacy and 2007's The Bourne Ultimatum. Both films starred Matt Damon in the lead role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭rednik


    As The Bourne Identity is my favourite they should bring back Doug Liman to direct Bourne 4.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 irishwarrior


    humanji wrote: »
    Yeah, but they're not by Ludlum. I've not read them, but the synopsis of them make them sound terrible. Has anyone here read them?
    Yeah read them,while i enjoyed them they not a patch on the original Ludlum..I hope to god they dont base the new movie on any of these and ruin the franchise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Much like the films, the first bourne was well paced and thought out (for a Ludlum book), the second was meh and the third was unnecessary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 708 ✭✭✭zimovain


    The next ‘Bourne’ movie will be a sequel, it has emerged.

    The action movie series, which starred Matt Damon as troubled character Jason Bourne, will be returning with a fourth movie, and new reports claim it will be a sequel, and not a prequel as was previously claimed.

    According to Variety and Deadline.com, Universal Studios has hired Tony Gilroy – who wrote the first three movies in the series – to pen a fourth script, tentatively titled ‘The Bourne Legacy’.

    Damon previously claimed he would return to work on ‘Bourne’ again, but only if a fifth film is made.

    He said: “There’ll probably be a prequel of some kind with another actor and another director before we do another one. We’re probably about five years away.”

    The 39-year-old actor also admitted he would not want to work on the franchise if he could not do it with director Paul Greengrass.

    He said: “I’m certainly not going to do it without him. Paul said he won’t do it now... but if we could crack it, find out where the character could go, we’d do it right away. But it has to be something we’d be excited about.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Sean Quagmire


    Not so sure about how they could make this work without making it seem like they are dragging it out.

    I liked the ending of the 3rd and its a nice mumber to end the series on. No movie ends with a fourth sequel, if theres a 4th there'l be a 5th. At least there not jumping into anything to quick, im sure Matt would walk away from a weak script or plot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 708 ✭✭✭zimovain


    Bourne producer Frank Marshall has announced that the fourth film will be called The Bourne Legacy, adding that Tony Gilroy, the writer for the first three films, will return. The screenwriter will put together the treatment for the project, Marshall announced on Twitter, leading to suggestions that Gilroy will also write the script.

    The return of star Matt Damon is in doubt, after the actor announced he would only work on a fourth film if original director Paul Greengrass was involved – however, he left the project earlier this year.

    Writer Gilroy is also rumoured to be replacing Greengrass in the director's chair after he helmed 2007's Michael Clayton and 2009's Duplicity.

    http://www.nme.com/movies/news/next-jason-bourne-film-named-on-twitter/175873


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a224712/tony-gilroy-hired-for-bourne-legacy.html
    Tony Gilroy has been hired to write the script for The Bourne Legacy, Universal Pictures has announced.

    Gilroy, who worked on The Bourne Identity, The Bourne Supremacy and The Bourne Ultimatum, has also been enlisted to pen a "franchise bible" to guide future sequels.

    Gilroy also wrote and directed the George Clooney thriller Michael Clayton and last year's Duplicity.

    Legacy will not be based on the Eric Lustabader-penned novel in Robert Ludlum's Bourne series.

    Star Matt Damon has previously said that he won't return to the role without director Paul Greengrass, who has ruled out making further instalments in the spy franchise.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭juma


    Bourne vs. Bauer on the big screen.

    The 24 script is already completed but its possible that these 2 films could be released around the same time. Will make for an interesting box office battle!


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Tony Gilroy has been hired to write the script for The Bourne Legacy, Universal Pictures has announced.

    Gilroy, who worked on The Bourne Identity, The Bourne Supremacy and The Bourne Ultimatum, has also been enlisted to pen a "franchise bible" to guide future sequels.

    Gilroy also wrote and directed the George Clooney thriller Michael Clayton and last year's Duplicity.

    Legacy will not be based on the Eric Lustabader-penned novel in Robert Ludlum's Bourne series.

    Star Matt Damon has previously said that he won't return to the role without director Paul Greengrass, who has ruled out making further instalments in the spy franchise.

    Thanks Liz, your ability to copy and paste other peoples work and never credit them is to be admired.


  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭MrSir


    Oh the Bourne Trilogy is some bad-ass entertainment.No arguments there.And a fourth one does have the potential of being a good film.But a prequel?Are you people going utterly and totally insane!Over statement?I think NOT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    If Greengrass isn't involved in the next one, I think that'll be a good thing. The strength was in the writing and Damon's performance far more than the manic insane directing of the last two - in fact, they spoiled them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭patch


    So the bourne legacy is going ahead for sure.
    Gilroy is now directing.
    Not really a surprise seen as gilroy was hired a few months ago to write the script.
    With a bit of luck damon will come back also!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.deadline.com/2010/10/exclusive-tony-gilroy-directing-bourne-identity-4/

    Gilroy will write and direct now - I'm not sure he is the best to direct especially the action scenes Greengrass would be better

    I hope Damon will be back anyways


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    Independence day release.

    Title: "Bourne in the 4th as a spy" :)

    (I'll get me coat)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 baldi1212


    Nonono!! Just don't make it..what's the point? The Bourne story is done....and they're making another Superman movie..ugh...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,059 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    There is no Bourne without Matt Damon.

    I certainly wouldn't watch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    baldi1212 wrote: »
    Nonono!! Just don't make it..what's the point? The Bourne story is done....and they're making another Superman movie..ugh...

    It was done after the first two films which were excellent.
    The third was rubbish.


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