9 days. Mustang launch in Europe

Marty McFly · 15-05-2014 2:37pm

HandsomeDan wrote: »

Sorry but the last mustang was bollocks. I drove one while I was in the states last year for bit.

That doesn't mean this one is

or take away from the fact that it's great to see another performance car being sold over here and one that may be somewhat affordable for the average joe, especially second hand when running cost shouldn't be astronomical.

It may be no V8 but over 300bhp is not to be scoffed at. Looking forward to hearing how it drives.

Zubeneschamali · 15-05-2014 2:41pm

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

I'd hate to be the chap who tries to impress car enthusiasts with his wrong engined mustang.

I'd hate to be the chap who tries to impress car enthususiasts.

Full stop.

HandsomeDan · 15-05-2014 2:46pm

Marty McFly wrote: »

That doesn't mean this one is or take away from the fact that it's great to see another performance car being sold over here and one that may be somewhat affordable for the average joe, especially second hand when running cost shouldn't be astronomical.

It may be no V8 but over 300bhp is not to be scoffed at. Looking forward to hearing how it drives.

Sure it could be OK. But doubt it'll be any better than anything already available.

Never got the whole pining over american bollocks. Americans don't even give a **** about there own domestics, not sure why we should either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abmrAf0evgk

Marty McFly · 15-05-2014 2:52pm

HandsomeDan wrote: »

Sure it could be OK. But doubt it'll be any better than anything already available.

Never got the whole pining over american bollocks. Americans don't even give a **** about there own domestics, not sure why we should either.

It's nothing to do with it being American for a lot of people it's about there being another performance car readily available on the Irish market that can never be a bad thing.

Much happier seeing this being released than another innovating blue motion economical car.

Also there's not to many car's on our roads producing that kind of performance.

HandsomeDan · 15-05-2014 2:54pm

Marty McFly wrote: »

It's nothing to do with it being American for a lot of people it's about there being another performance car readily available on the Irish market that can never be a bad thing.

Much happier seeing this being released than another innovating blue motion economical car.

Also there's not to many car's on our roads producing that kind of performance.

GS450h. See them all the time. 340BHP. You have to be a bit of a 'Colin' to drive one, but still, tasty car.

Marty McFly · 15-05-2014 2:58pm

HandsomeDan wrote: »

GS450h. See them all the time. 340BHP. You have to be a bit of a 'Colin' to drive one, but still, tasty car.

What???? A GS450h is not comparable to RWD coupe performance car in anyway shape or form.

Secondly there's not lots of them around or are they are very affordable running costs compared to what a 2.3 ecoboost engine could be.

HandsomeDan · 15-05-2014 3:01pm

Marty McFly wrote: »

What???? A GS450h is not comparable to RWD coupe performance car in anyway shape or form.

Secondly there's not lots of them around or are they are very affordable running costs compared to what a 2.3 ecoboost engine could be.

450H is RWD. Can be got for 10k these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9rv_07MR1s

:pac:

Marty McFly · 15-05-2014 3:04pm

HandsomeDan wrote: »

450H is RWD. Can be got for 10k these days.

Bangs head against wall.

a 450h is a luxury car a lovely car at that but comparing a 450h to a Mustang is like chalk and cheese.

Yes they can be got for 10k I said affordable running costs how many people in Ireland do you know who wouldn't be terrified of taxing and running costs of a 450h? There is a reason luxobarges drop in value so much people in Ireland are generally terrified of the thought of owning something like that.

A 2.3 would be a far less scarier and much more manageable prospect in the minds of a lot of Irish motorists.

HandsomeDan · 15-05-2014 3:09pm

Marty McFly wrote: »

Bangs head against wall.

a 450h is a luxury car a lovely car at that but comparing a 450h to a Mustang is like chalk and cheese.

Yes they can be got for 10k I said affordable running costs how many people in Ireland do you know who wouldn't be terrified of taxing and running costs of a 450h? There is a reason luxobarges drop in value so much people in Ireland are generally terrified of the thought of owning something like that.

A 2.3 would be a far less scarier and much more manageable prospect in the minds of a lot of Irish motorists.

I know it's a chalk and cheeser.

Current 450h is €225 to tax. Supposed to be a smart handler too.

Zubeneschamali · 15-05-2014 3:13pm

HandsomeDan wrote: »

Current 450h is €225 to tax. Supposed to be a smart handler too.

It's no Massey Ferguson, though.

HandsomeDan · 15-05-2014 3:15pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

It's no Massey Ferguson, though.

Contrived point, I know. But a 450h is arguably more of a muscle car than a 2.3 ecoboost mustang.

Henry Ford III · 15-05-2014 4:44pm

HandsomeDan wrote: »

Contrived point, I know. But a 450h is arguably more of a muscle car than a 2.3 ecoboost mustang.

Erm.......no. 450h is an executive saloon car.

p.s. Anyone know the likely pricing in Ireland of the new Mustang? A new Focus ST2 is touching €40k, so I'd expect the 2.3t Ecoboost Mustang to be maybe €50k+?

Zubeneschamali · 15-05-2014 4:56pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

I'd expect the 2.3t Ecoboost Mustang to be maybe €50k+?

I'd say so, which would be up against sports cars and coupés from Porsche, Mercedes, BMW and Audi. I think that would mean annual sales in Ireland should be, oooh, I don't know, at a guess, roughly none. Zero. No cars at all.

Eric Cartman · 15-05-2014 5:07pm

if somebody would like to buy a fully loaded V8 on 20's in black and automatic ill take it off ye in 2018 cheers.

Big Nasty · 15-05-2014 5:19pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

I'd say so, which would be up against sports cars and coupés from Porsche, Mercedes, BMW and Audi. I think that would mean annual sales in Ireland should be, oooh, I don't know, at a guess, roughly none. Zero. No cars at all.

Let's call it €55k. How would that compare to a 428 / A5 2LT or equivalent Merc coupe pricewise? A good 10 / 15 % cheaper I guess.

Drummerboy08 · 15-05-2014 5:24pm

Yeah but it won't hold its value anywhere near as well as the Audi, BMW or Porsche.

It needs to be aimed at the GT86, taking on the above brands in that segment is madness IMO.

Zubeneschamali · 15-05-2014 5:29pm

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

It needs to be aimed at the GT86, taking on the above brands in that segment is madness IMO.

Loads of people thought the GT86 was way overpriced, because the same money would see you in a BMW 1 series coupé.

Drummerboy08 · 15-05-2014 5:30pm

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Loads of people thought the GT86 was way overpriced, because the same money would see you in a BMW 1 series coupé.

How many GT86 were sold in 2013?

Big Nasty · 15-05-2014 5:32pm

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Yeah but it won't hold its value anywhere near as well as the Audi, BMW or Porsche.

It needs to be aimed at the GT86, taking on the above brands in that segment is madness IMO.

True enough on the residual but I'd put it higher than the GT86 though.

Henry Ford III · 15-05-2014 5:38pm

Big Nasty wrote: »

True enough on the residual but I'd put it higher than the GT86 though.

Different league power wise at least. 305bhp vs c.200bhp. Slightly different market segments too I'd suggest also.

Very few if any new performance car bargains in Ireland I'm afraid.

Days 298 · 15-05-2014 6:00pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

if somebody would like to buy a fully loaded V8 on 20's in black and automatic ill take it off ye in 2018 cheers.

Pretty much sums it up:o If a person really wants a V8 Mustang they can go fork out for it themselves. Of course some people will scoff the eco 2.3 engine but unless they are driving something as new and as powerful which is really unlikely in Ireland, they are all just talk.

I hope to see some Mustangs on our roads but seeing how rare ST's are now its unlikely, unless the government can get celtic tiger 2.0 going.

Eric Cartman · 15-05-2014 6:08pm

Days 298 wrote: »

Pretty much sums it up:o If a person really wants a V8 Mustang they can go fork out for it themselves. Of course some people will scoff the eco 2.3 engine but unless they are driving something as new and as powerful which is really unlikely in Ireland, they are all just talk.

I hope to see some Mustangs on our roads but seeing how rare ST's are now its unlikely, unless the government can get celtic tiger 2.0 going.

believe me, If I had another 50k to throw round id go buy one , sadly I have a feeling that fully loaded the v8 would be closer to 60-65 , which puts it out of my price range , even if I had the money for a brand new 2.3 id wait for a second hand 1-2 year old V8 at the same price.

id wager the V8 will hold its value better than the 2.3 , even here, but both of them will probably sink like a stone unless the tax is nothing .

rowanh · 15-05-2014 6:24pm

I did about 1600 miles in a v6 automatic convertible around california in 2012, it was a lovely car, i really enjoyed driving it. It was pretty much brand new, it only had 2000 miles on it when i got it.

In terms of owning one im not sure how they would do on roads here, it felt very heavy sometimes, going around a bend downhill for example, it felt like a struggle to keep it on the road sometimes. Other than that i couldnt fault it though if it was 50k i think you would be mad to buy one, id never buy a new car though, seems crazy to me.

Sitec · 15-05-2014 6:43pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

When's the diesel launching here?

hahahah Ford Mustang 1.6TDCI. (she's one thirty though lad)

Voodoomelon · 15-05-2014 7:41pm

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

The 2.3 ecoboost makes 5hp more than the outgoing modular V8. The essence of a muscle car is to have a high power output in a light (or what the americans thought was!) car for very little money. The best way to do this back in the day was with a V8. Because of this, the V8 became part of the muscle car. However, today the most powerful, light and cheap to produce engines are small displacement with turbos. IMO the new mustang is still pure to the muscle car as it's a cheap car with big power, but, peoples perception of what makes a muscle car has changed and they mow think it has to have a V8.

I agree, the V8 isn't a deal breaker for anyone that's half into cars, left alone the average punter who's going to buy one for the looks and individuality of it.

My V8 7 is the same power as this new Ecoboost model and is some 200kg heavier and it fairly moves. If the Mustang can get into the high 5 seconds to 100kph, there will be few V8s sold. It will be hard to justify in high tax/high fuel price countries.

People will buy it to say they have a Mustang. I know I would. And one person in a hundred will ask you what engine it has. Even a 2.3l will get raised eyebrows. "Petrol too, are ya mad?".

vibe666 · 15-05-2014 7:55pm

I wonder if we'll see the GT500 or if the yanks will keep them all to themselves?

quadrifoglio verde · 15-05-2014 9:30pm

djimi wrote: »

Its not much different to Subaru offering a 1.6 Impreza really. A bit pointless perhaps, but each to their own.

I'm actually realising the hypocriticalness of my post. As most can guess from my username I'm an alfa enthusiast.

Alfas real engines are the busso and the alfa twin cam. Yet I've a busso and a twinspark. No old alfa twin cam and neither of them are rear wheel drive.

That all being said if I was having a mustang I'd want a v8 and I'd get an old v8 instead of a newer one.

Chris_Heilong · 16-05-2014 12:32am

glad we will be getting somwthing at least a bit diffrent to the norm.

Dartz · 16-05-2014 12:38am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

When's the diesel launching here?

V8 Powerstroke?

Carson10 · 16-05-2014 1:30am

The Irish version will be

1.6 Diesel with hubcaps and radio/casette

Cookie_Monster · 16-05-2014 3:59am

420hp v8 confirmed coming to NZ in 2015 sometime, right around the time we're thinking about replacing the car, would be nice

Though I wonder will we get a Camarao in RHD as a result of this?

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 16-05-2014 3:11pm

Dartz wrote: »

V8 Powerstroke?

YUSSSSS!!! Bring it on!

Jesus. · 20-05-2014 11:40am

I wonder what the 4 pot will sound like?

Have they put a symposer in them like they have with their ST's?

Caliden · 20-05-2014 11:51am

Jesus. wrote: »

I wonder what the 4 pot will sound like?

Have they put a symposer in them like they have with their ST's?

Hopefully with an obnoxious bov or screamer pipe to compensate for the lack of a v8.

jimgoose · 20-05-2014 11:54am

Caliden wrote: »

Hopefully with an obnoxious bov or screamer pipe to compensate for the lack of a v8.

Aye. A car like that deserves both a Phsssss and a Whoooo! :pac::pac::pac:

R.O.R · 20-05-2014 12:33pm

Hope no-one is holding their breath for these to arrive.

First RHD deliveries likely to be Late 2015 :-(

vibe666 · 20-05-2014 12:36pm

R.O.R wrote: »

Hope no-one is holding their breath for these to arrive.

First RHD deliveries likely to be Late 2015 :-(

plenty of time to line up the sale of the wife and kids then! :pac:

Big Nasty · 20-05-2014 12:40pm

R.O.R wrote: »

Hope no-one is holding their breath for these to arrive.

First RHD deliveries likely to be Late 2015 :-(

WTF is that all about?

Ford Ireland have been plastering their launch all fb as May 24th. So you order now and get delivery late next year? o.O

Henry Ford III · 20-05-2014 12:43pm

That's it then - I'm cancelling my order.

R.O.R · 20-05-2014 12:44pm

Big Nasty wrote: »

WTF is that all about?

Ford Ireland have been plastering their launch all fb as May 24th. So you order now and get delivery late next year? o.O

European Launch is during the Champions League Final. Register your interest and get one of the first ones to arrive, circa October 2015.

When pricing in released you can then decide if you want to keep your car on order, or pull out.

Big Nasty · 20-05-2014 1:16pm

R.O.R wrote: »

European Launch is during the Champions League Final. Register your interest and get one of the first ones to arrive, circa October 2015.

When pricing in released you can then decide if you want to keep your car on order, or pull out.

Well fvck it, I'm gonna order one for the craic then.

String · 24-05-2014 7:46pm

Can reserve one now. Wonder if someone in Ireland is getting one!

Dord · 24-05-2014 8:08pm

String wrote: »

Can reserve one now. Wonder if someone in Ireland is getting one!

Probably a Ford Mustang Style. :pac:

comongethappy · 24-05-2014 8:25pm

Dord wrote: »

Probably a Ford Mustang Style. :pac:

There must be a Mustang Lx

With those little stick things to adjust the wing mirrors.

Dord · 24-05-2014 8:52pm

Wait til ye see, the gardai will get one as a promo veh-icle. :P

ba_barabus · 24-05-2014 10:46pm

Only 5 can be reserved in ROI.

robertxxx · 24-05-2014 10:57pm

Isn't it supposed to have a 2.3ltr engine for the euro market as well as left hand drive. Well that's what top gear said.

Dartz · 24-05-2014 11:41pm

I'll be buying one in 8 years time when used values get down to 4,000 or so.

String · 24-05-2014 11:51pm

robertxxx wrote: »

Isn't it supposed to have a 2.3ltr engine for the euro market as well as left hand drive. Well that's what top gear said.

There's right hand drive and the v8 is an option as well for Europe. On the website you can only puck red fastback and silver convertible

9 days. Mustang launch in Europe

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