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EV Sales 2014
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06-02-2014 6:35pm#1I'm not sure if it will be a continuing trend in 2014, but just picking the current most popular EV, sales have been much better this year.
There also seems to good few secondhand Leafs being imported privately from the UK over the last few months. I have been speaking with some new owners over the last few months and they all seem to be extremely happy with their EVs. I can't imagine February being as good, but I would think sales should be generally good this year.4
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Excellent, I wonder how much of that was down to me ?
50 isn't a huge amount but they sales seem to be gaining traction.
It will be interesting to see how many buy the I3, E-Golf and the Mercedes B class EV.
But it's nice to see that there were more sold in Jan than all of last year.
Global ev sales are predicted to explode this year.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »Excellent, I wonder how much of that was down to me ?
50 isn't a huge amount but they sales seem to be gaining traction.
It will be interesting to see how many buy the I3, E-Golf and the Mercedes B class EV.
But it's nice to see that there were more sold in Jan than all of last year.
Global ev sales are predicted to explode this year.
Gaining traction......Good one:pac::pac:0 -
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It looks well in black , the trademark baby blue isn't as nice. The interior is slick, really upmarket and "different" feel to it. It feels like you're driving something different.
I actually like the Leaf in grey, black isn't bad either but it shows up every chip and scratch.
I like the interior of the Mk 1.5 a lot more than the bright interior of the older one.
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Deleted User wrote: »Excellent, I wonder how much of that was down to me ?
There is a rumour going around that there is a mad fella in Kildare with fifty Nissan Leaf's in a shed out the back
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naughtysmurf wrote: »There is a rumour going around that there is a mad fella in Kildare with fifty Nissan Leaf's in a shed out the back
Wish it were true, I'd take just one ! 0 -
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Drummerboy08 wrote: »Slightly OT, but why can't a manufacturer build a "normal" looking EV? I like the concept behind it and if my daily commute suited one, I'd seriously consider it.
However the actual look of the car puts me right off - it's not only the Leaf, but the Fluence EV is awful looking, the I3 is no better, and the Mitsubishi isn't exactly a looker.
Why not make an EV that looks like a Seat Leon, or a Mazda 3? Many people (me included) don't want to stand out from the crowd, which is what these current EV's will cause. I genuinely think this is holding many people back from purchasing an EV.
Well there is the new Mercedes, which looks exactly like its ICE version
http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/mercedes-benz-b-class-electric-drive-first-drive-2014-02-06How much power?
174bhp and 251lb ft of torque, and a top speed limited to 100mph (to conserve battery life), which is quite a considerable step down from the Model S's 400-odd-horsepower output. But then, it was never going to be a 400bhp electric B-Class, because Top Gear isn't in charge at Mercedes. Mercedes is, and anyway, this thing will sprint from 0-62mph in 7.9 seconds via a single-speed gearbox, which is plenty for a B-Class.
But is it really a B-Class?
It is. The ED is built on the same production line as the regular B-Class, because it required no major structural change.
The current B-Class was designed with a sort of ‘semi-sandwich' floor, with a very convenient space in the middle of the car underneath the passenger seats, here dubbed ‘Energy Space'. Merc has fitted the 28 kW lithium-ion battery in this little gap, with the motor and rest of the electric gubbins up front in place of a normal combustion engine.
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Drummerboy08 wrote: »Slightly OT, but why can't a manufacturer build a "normal" looking EV? I like the concept behind it and if my daily commute suited one, I'd seriously consider it.
However the actual look of the car puts me right off - it's not only the Leaf, but the Fluence EV is awful looking, the I3 is no better, and the Mitsubishi isn't exactly a looker.
Why not make an EV that looks like a Seat Leon, or a Mazda 3? Many people (me included) don't want to stand out from the crowd, which is what these current EV's will cause. I genuinely think this is holding many people back from purchasing an EV.
Couldn't agree more, thats why I think cars like the VW e-Golf are the future, normal cars electrified
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The obvious EV success story in Europe would be Norway, which has a similar population to ours.
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/12/04/norwegian-ev-sales-remain-strong-in-november/The Tesla Model S and Nissan Leaf have been battling for top sales in the Norwegian market. In September, the Model S was Norway's top-selling car with 616 units sold. Deploying a network of Superchargers in the country only makes the car all the more appealing there. In October, the Leaf sold 716 units, beating the Volkswagen Golf (the e-Golf isn't yet on sale there and the plug-in hybrid version is coming next year). In November, the Golf took first place overall with 666 units sold; the Model S was second with 527 sales and the Leaf dropped down to fifth place at 512 units.
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I dont know if there fast or not. I just see the chargers about. But there for the esb cars only afaik.
Yeah I see 3 fast chargers in Cork City, Fast chargers are Blue.
Where I live now i have no way to charge from house as parking is opposite side of street to the house. Driving to a charger would be only way. And cant charge at work as im working in people's houses.
In theory a electric van would be great as I do about 300 miles a week in city and suburbs.
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wotswattage wrote: »Not having a go at you personally here, but that seems to be the latest get out of jail free retort from the general motoring population disliking the idea of an EV.
First it was 'sure the range would never do me...' Turns out the ranges are sufficient for the vast majority of the population.
Then 'Sure the battery will be useless after a year...' Turns out the batteries hold up ok.
Now its that they are 'quare looking yokes'...
The Leaf isn't that different/funny looking. It's certainly more conservative than some of Citroen's current DS offerings. Personally I don't really love the styling of it, but it's no less attractive than the likes of a Focus/Golf/Hyundai etc. There are lots of other horrendously ugly cars out there which don't get the abuse a Leaf does..
I do agree that manufacturers would be making life easier for themselves in Ireland if they offered what the Irish want - A Jetta ev:P
What will sell EV's in Ireland this year will be billboards explaining in big letters:
Cost per 10000km (or a years driving for the average Irish motorist) incl. tax etc
Nissan Leaf/other EV: €x
Rival diesel hatchback: €y
*I don't know the figures maybe someone who has done the maths can post up the cost difference
You're right the Leaf is more conservative than many of the Citroën's out there. But it's also ugly. The Citroën's are both modern and not ugly. Why EV brings the ugly stick escapes me. Too much time watching Bladerunner I suspect
Don't forget the other fuel for your comparison : petrol. Cheaper to build, buy, finance, and close to diesel in economy. ..Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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You're right the Leaf is more conservative than many of the Citroën's out there. But it's also ugly. The Citroën's are both modern and not ugly. Why EV brings the ugly stick escapes me. Too much time watching Bladerunner I suspect
Don't forget the other fuel for your comparison : petrol. Cheaper to build, buy, finance, and close to diesel in economy. ..
Ah come on now, the Leaf MK 1.5 interior is a step up from my MK II Prius ! And the outside isn't as ugly as the MK II either, however the MK III outside isn't bad at all.
TBH do people actually think the Golf is a nice looking car ?0 -
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Matt Simis wrote: »At numbers so low that the chart and any projected trend is statistically irrelevant. Better to look at the UK numbers year on year and also take into account any seasonality effects such as general market gain or losses by all brands.
I think it's interesting that in the UK they also saw much stronger sales in January.
http://www.hybridcars.com/leaf-still-leads-uk-ev-sales/January was another record-breaking month for the Nissan Leaf, maintaining its market-leader status in the UK.
Figures released by the UK Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) show Nissan managed to sell 230 units of the Leaf during January 2014.
That total was more than 1,000 percent up when compared to sales in January 2013 according to SMMT sales numbers and Nissan said they clearly show the Leaf continues to enjoy strong upward sales momentum in the face of growing competition.
I find the perception of EVs is gradually changing and on that note I came across this story the other day.
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/2/12/Koenigsegg-Buys-a-Tesla-Model-S-Says-No-Better-Car-for-the-Money-7718623/Hypercar maker is an EV lover. 18 months is a long time to wait for a car. But that didn’t deter Koenigsegg founder Christian von Koenigsegg from putting down an order for a Tesla Model S, which the Swedish hypercar builder took delivery of last October. Speaking at an electric car conference in Helsinborg, Sweden, Koenigsegg said that there is no better car than the Model S in its price range, claiming it to be the best sports sedan on the market with better acceleration and handling than the BMW M5 while also being more fun to drive. - See more at: http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/2/12/Koenigsegg-Buys-a-Tesla-Model-S-Says-No-Better-Car-for-the-Money-7718623/#sthash.GJR3DTIJ.dpuf
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Deleted User wrote: »In Ireland the Leaf holds it's value better than all but the premium brands of the same calibre that is, Golf/A3. but not by much less.
I actually had a call from the sales guy who sold me my Leaf 3 years ago. He was wondering was I interested in trading up as there was strong demand for secondhand models. He told me last month was great and he had sold 5 of them himself. I didn't tell him a lot of people were also bringing them in from the UK 0 -
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naughtysmurf wrote: »I'd be interested in a Leaf / other EV, the main things holding me back are
1. If I buy now I believe the range could increase considerably over the next few years leaving me with a shorter range car that nobody will want second hand
2. I don't think I do enough milage to justify one, <10K / pa albeit mostly short journeys, so the savings are not huge over the tried & tested
3. I'm not exactly sure what would happen say after four years and some battery issues start to crop up, will this = €€€€€??
There is a perception out there that the battery in an EV is like an AA battery you buy in a newsagent, useless once its spent. It's very much a valuable commodity! I'd suggest checking out this thread.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057145444
I do think the technology is progressing fast and wouldn't be surprised if the 2016 Leaf had 50% to 100% more battery capacity than the current model. Nissan have recently tested a Leaf with a 48Kwh battery pack in Spain. You can't always keep holding off for the next model though 0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »The Prius MK III isn't ugly, It's better looking than a Golf, maybe not from the inside.
The Golf doesn't push any boundaries but it's plain Jane styling is classier and more pleasing on the eye than the Prius.
I'd drive this:
Over this
And the reason it purely because there isn't an angle you can look at the prius from without it looking odd. It's a borderline ugly car. You can see from the Golf (and the UP) EV that it looks almost identical to the ICE version. It offers a similar tech without you having to wince should you look back at what you've just parked.0 -
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the person that designed it I'm pretty sure had no soul :P
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