canadian society for gay animals objects to penguins

Phill Ewinn · 10-11-2011 11:46am #1

Two african penguins will be seperated to encourage them to have sex with female penguins. The species is endangered and needs all the help it can apparently.

So AH should we let them be? Is this a black and white issue for you or should there be more gay rights for penguins????

yutta · 10-11-2011 11:47am

Just because something occurs "naturally" in nature, doesn't mean it's right.

cml387 · 10-11-2011 11:47am

I hope this doesn't become another penguin-bashing thread.

Phill Ewinn · 10-11-2011 11:48am

nydailynews.com/news/national/gay-penguin-couple-buddy-pedro-separated-toronto-zoo-mate-females-article-1.974930 linky

Penn · 10-11-2011 11:49am

yutta wrote: »

Just because something occurs "naturally" in nature, doesn't mean it's right.

You dare say something created by God isn't right?

I CUT THE HEAD OFF THE DEVIL AND I THROW IT AT YOU!

Killer Pigeon · 10-11-2011 11:49am

FFS! If they want the species to survive then they should just get some of the penguin's sperm, freeze it and use it for IVF later...

I think that LGBT people should boycott the zoo. It's a disgrace. The poor penguins shouldn't be forced into something they don't want to do. It would traumatize them and destroy their relationship. Does the zookeeper think that homosexuality is a choice? Disgusting.

bijapos · 10-11-2011 11:50am

A somewhat misleading thread title OP, but a brilliant one nonetheless.

Galtee · 10-11-2011 11:54am

Apparently, the word on the street is that the canadian society for gay animals are sick and tired of being objectified by penguins.

bijapos · 10-11-2011 11:54am

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

FFS! If they want the species to survive then they should just get some of the penguin's sperm, freeze it and use it for IVF later...

Seeing as they seem to drag their balls along the ground most of the time I would think that a penguins sperm is already frozen?

btw your sig is 2 weeks out of date.

yutta · 10-11-2011 11:55am

Penn wrote: »

You dare say something created by God isn't right?

But you must ask how God could allow for love without the potential for evil? God could have created robots that do nothing more than forever say, "I love you, I love you, I love you." Such beings would be incapable of any kind of real love. Love is a choice, and the Bible says that God desires a real love relationship with His creation. Love is not real unless we have the ability to not love.

God knew that in a world with much choice, there would be much evil: to choose not to love is evil by definition. However, there would also be the capacity for real love. Philosopher Alvin Plantinga once wrote that "An all loving, all powerful, all knowing Being could permit as much evil as He pleased without forfeiting His claim to being all loving, so long as for every evil state of affairs He permits there is an accompanying greater good".

The potential for love outweighs the existence of evil, especially if evil can only exist for a time. Evil is a side effect of love. Suffering and death are a side effect of evil.

Of course if you refute the existence of God, you won't find much truth in the above, although you might get some insight as to where Christians come from.

I'm not saying these penguins are inherently evil - they probably think they're reproducing. I mean if you stick two penguins in a cell together, eventually the powerful reproductive reflex will kick in.

keepkeyyellow · 10-11-2011 11:58am

yutta wrote: »

Just because something occurs "naturally" in nature, doesn't mean it's right.

Some cats eat their kittens, lions kill gazelles to eat and a black widow kills the male after sex...all things that are natural in nature and obviously not right by our moral standards but they happen.

However having that said I think it's a non issue. They're just animals and if the species is endagered it's a problem, how ever if the penguins are truly gay they just won't have sex...end of

Killer Pigeon · 10-11-2011 12:01pm

bijapos wrote: »

btw your sig is 2 weeks out of date.

Congrads for noticing!

Snakeblood · 10-11-2011 12:02pm

yutta wrote: »

God knew that in a world with much choice, there would be much evil: to choose not to love is evil by definition. However, there would also be the capacity for real love. Philosopher Alvin Plantinga once wrote that "An all loving, all powerful, all knowing Being could permit as much evil as He pleased without forfeiting His claim to being all loving, so long as for every evil state of affairs He permits there is an accompanying greater good".

What's the greater good for two gay penguins banging? How are penguins banging even evil? They're penguins, it's doubtful they've even read the bible, at best they've skimmed it, and noticed it barely mentions penguins at all.

starbelgrade · 10-11-2011 12:06pm

Sexy gay penguins.

Da Shins Kelly · 10-11-2011 12:36pm

If they're actually gay, they won't have sex with the females regardless. Then they can be together again.

Jen Pigs Fly · 10-11-2011 1:02pm

They're trying to break up a lovely couple

I hope both of them refuse to mate with the females out of protest, that would show them.

Why not just use frozen semen and AI methods?? Why break them up?

I did have a big 'awwwwww' moment when I saw the pics haha

Batsy · 10-11-2011 1:18pm

The Canadian Society for Gay Animals?

Those Canucks need to get out more.

Lucy8080 · 10-11-2011 2:00pm

why would a male penguin hump another male penguin?

something smells fishy in this story.

Batsy · 10-11-2011 2:04pm

yutta wrote: »

Just because something occurs "naturally" in nature, doesn't mean it's right.

So are you saying that it's wrong for two animals of opposite gender to breed with each other?

flutterflye · 10-11-2011 2:05pm

Batsy wrote: »

So are you saying that it's wrong for two animals of opposite gender to breed with each other?

How can they breed???

Edit - Ah, you said opposite.
Back in my box.

On the op - I don't think they will mate if they're really gay, so it's all good.

Batsy · 10-11-2011 2:06pm

Snakeblood wrote: »

What's the greater good for two gay penguins banging? How are penguins banging even evil? They're penguins, it's doubtful they've even read the bible, at best they've skimmed it, and noticed it barely mentions penguins at all.

Although if all animals of a species are gay and only have sex with members of the same gender then that species will eventually become extinct.

Batsy · 10-11-2011 2:07pm

flutterflye wrote: »

How can they breed???

They can't breed if they are of the same gender.

jester77 · 10-11-2011 2:07pm

Sounds like they p... p.... picked up the gay

flutterflye · 10-11-2011 2:08pm

Batsy wrote: »

They can't breed if they are of the same gender.

See edit

parker kent · 10-11-2011 2:09pm

Clearly they need to have a threesome with a female penguin to spice things up.

stupidusername · 10-11-2011 2:11pm

There's quite a few species that form gay relationships,it's not that unusual. Though I would agree with not forcing them to mate with females if their decline has been nothing to do with human interference

Ridley · 10-11-2011 2:24pm

So we're just ignoring that one of them is only ten years old?

Phill Ewinn · 10-11-2011 2:26pm

No sign of any of them trying to mate with baby penguins. That must just be something bears do.

Snakeblood · 10-11-2011 4:21pm

Batsy wrote: »

Although if all animals of a species are gay and only have sex with members of the same gender then that species will eventually become extinct.

That's true. On the other hand, not the case for penguins, and it also doesn't have much to do with theoretical god.

cml387 · 10-11-2011 4:39pm

Reminds me of the old story about the penguin driving through town when his car broke down.
The garage said that it'd take a while to diagnose so, feeling hot and bothered, the penguin went off to get some ice cream.

Penguins are by their nature messy eaters so by the time he got back to the garage he was covered in ice cream.

The garage guy said "It looks like you've blown a seal"
"No,no" said the seal "It's just ice cream".

DidierV · 10-11-2011 8:53pm

yutta wrote: »

Just because something occurs "naturally" in nature, doesn't mean it's right.

Define "right" and by whose standards?
Certainly not YOUR "standards" Yutta--versus GOD's!!!
You clearly consider yourself "pious",
GOD created those penguins : as they are.
God is the creator of every living thing and most certainly ALL that is natural. as defined as being that which is found in NATURE.
Here Yutta for your education in the definition of the word NATURAL.
Look & Learn.
(You're welcome)

nat·u·ral [nach-er-uhl, nach-ruhl] Show IPA
adjective
1.
existing in or formed by nature (opposed to artificial): a natural bridge.
2.
based on the state of things in nature; constituted by nature: Growth is a natural process. (ie: GAY PENGUINS)
3.
of or pertaining to nature or the universe: natural beauty.
4.
of, pertaining to, or occupied with the study of natural science: conducting natural experiments.
5.
in a state of nature; uncultivated, as land.

Save your sanctimonious and erroneous use of quotation marks.
Nobody cares what you think or have to say in criticism of that what is most definitely GOD MADE and NATURAL (sans your obnoxious quotation marks) --ESPECIALLY when you are sitting there on your holier than GOD judgmental paranoid of gays horse; passing judgement on God's holy creation of gay penguins.

Leave the damned penguins alone and go get a life-stop busy bodying around everyone else's love life.

I forgive you Yutta for your judgemental slur against our Almighty Lord.
(You just needed to be put in your place)

DidierV · 10-11-2011 9:01pm

yutta wrote: »

But you must ask how God could allow for love without the potential for evil? God could have created robots that do nothing more than forever say, "I love you, I love you, I love you." Such beings would be incapable of any kind of real love. Love is a choice, and the Bible says that God desires a real love relationship with His creation. Love is not real unless we have the ability to not love.

God knew that in a world with much choice, there would be much evil: to choose not to love is evil by definition. However, there would also be the capacity for real love. Philosopher Alvin Plantinga once wrote that "An all loving, all powerful, all knowing Being could permit as much evil as He pleased without forfeiting His claim to being all loving, so long as for every evil state of affairs He permits there is an accompanying greater good".

The potential for love outweighs the existence of evil, especially if evil can only exist for a time. Evil is a side effect of love. Suffering and death are a side effect of evil.

Of course if you refute the existence of God, you won't find much truth in the above, although you might get some insight as to where Christians come from.

I'm not saying these penguins are inherently evil - they probably think they're reproducing. I mean if you stick two penguins in a cell together, eventually the powerful reproductive reflex will kick in.

Ah so and how did God allow for the bad judgmental attitude of YOU Yutta?
Judging our Beloved God's creations, sitting there in front ofyour cmputer screen casting judgement on something so natural as 2 of God's belove penguins.
Shape up or ship out.
Shame on you.
Beg Allah for forgiveness.

yutta · 10-11-2011 9:02pm

DidierV wrote: »

Define "right" and by whose standards?
Certainly not YOUR "standards" Yutta--versus GOD's!!!
You clearly consider yourself "pious",
GOD created those penguins : as they are.
God is the creator of every living thing and most certainly ALL that is natural. as defined as being that which is found in NATURE.
Here Yutta for your education in the definition of the word NATURAL.
Look & Learn.
(You're welcome)

nat·u·ral [nach-er-uhl, nach-ruhl] Show IPA
adjective
1.
existing in or formed by nature (opposed to artificial): a natural bridge.
2.
based on the state of things in nature; constituted by nature: Growth is a natural process. (ie: GAY PENGUINS)
3.
of or pertaining to nature or the universe: natural beauty.
4.
of, pertaining to, or occupied with the study of natural science: conducting natural experiments.
5.
in a state of nature; uncultivated, as land.

Save your sanctimonious and erroneous use of quotation marks.
Nobody cares what you think or have to say in criticism of that what is most definitely GOD MADE and NATURAL (sans your obnoxious quotation marks) --ESPECIALLY when you are sitting there on your holier than GOD judgmental paranoid of gays horse; passing judgement on God's holy creation of gay penguins.

Leave the damned penguins alone and go get a life-stop busy bodying around everyone else's love life.

I forgive you Yutta for your judgemental slur against our Almighty Lord.
(You just needed to be put in your place)

Lots of phenomenon occur "naturally" - including incestuous relationships and mothers who kill their newborns.

These naturally occuring things do not translate into the human domain.

Frank Black · 10-11-2011 9:03pm

When you're dealing with gay penguins the issues are rarely black and white.

jockeyboard · 10-11-2011 9:06pm

This is a terrible story about a 'forbidden' love similar to that mighty fine film broke back mountain....
They could remake it using these penguins and call it broke beak mountain.

Anyone anyone???
*gets coat, but giggles on way out*

footnote-i love all animals regardless of their sexual preferences.:D

Sunnyisland · 10-11-2011 9:08pm

I think we should count yourself lucky it was penguins , Imagine if it was Gay elephants.

gurramok · 10-11-2011 11:05pm

Buddy is a paedo?

Zoo officials told the Toronto Star that Buddy, 21, and Pedro, 10, were spotted engaging in courtship and mating behavior similar to those of female and male penguins.

Ah feck from Yutta's posts, wonder if the penguins are Christian, Muslim or Hindu, anyone?

strobe · 10-11-2011 11:17pm

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

If they're actually gay, they won't have sex with the females regardless. Then they can be together again.

Indeed. Sure maybe they are bi-penguins.

I say lash them in separate cages with a couple of chicks and let them experiment. Don't knock it till you tried it and all that.

woodoo · 10-11-2011 11:19pm

Increasing numbers is more important than these two lovers prancing about like their on the set of brokeback mountain.

Logical Fallacy · 10-11-2011 11:20pm

yutta wrote: »

But you must ask how God could allow for love without the potential for evil? God could have created robots that do nothing more than forever say, "I love you, I love you, I love you." Such beings would be incapable of any kind of real love. Love is a choice, and the Bible says that God desires a real love relationship with His creation. Love is not real unless we have the ability to not love.

God knew that in a world with much choice, there would be much evil: to choose not to love is evil by definition. However, there would also be the capacity for real love. Philosopher Alvin Plantinga once wrote that "An all loving, all powerful, all knowing Being could permit as much evil as He pleased without forfeiting His claim to being all loving, so long as for every evil state of affairs He permits there is an accompanying greater good".

The potential for love outweighs the existence of evil, especially if evil can only exist for a time. Evil is a side effect of love. Suffering and death are a side effect of evil.

Of course if you refute the existence of God, you won't find much truth in the above, although you might get some insight as to where Christians come from.

I'm not saying these penguins are inherently evil - they probably think they're reproducing. I mean if you stick two penguins in a cell together, eventually the powerful reproductive reflex will kick in.

What the **** are you on about?

yutta wrote: »

Lots of phenomenon occur "naturally" - including incestuous relationships and mothers who kill their newborns.

These naturally occuring things do not translate into the human domain.

And again, what are you on about?

galwayrush · 10-11-2011 11:21pm

Did any of the penguins play rugby?

psychward · 10-11-2011 11:24pm

How does anyone know they are Gay ? Maybe one of them dropped the soap and they were having prison (zoo) sex

smokingman · 10-11-2011 11:36pm

Snakeblood wrote: »

What's the greater good for two gay penguins banging? How are penguins banging even evil? They're penguins, it's doubtful they've even read the bible, at best they've skimmed it, and noticed it barely mentions penguins at all.

It does mention unicorns though...and dragons, talking donkeys, talking snakes etc...

Yutta obviously knows his stuff where "un-natural" animals are concerned :pac:

...
EDIT; there are actually unicorns in the bible, look it up, I am honestly not pulling your leg on that! ****ing unicorns!

oppenheimer1 · 11-11-2011 12:09am

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

FFS! If they want the species to survive then they should just get some of the penguin's sperm, freeze it and use it for IVF later...

I think that LGBT people should boycott the zoo. It's a disgrace. The poor penguins shouldn't be forced into something they don't want to do. It would traumatize them and destroy their relationship. Does the zookeeper think that homosexuality is a choice? Disgusting.

I assume (hope!) you're not being sincere. These are animals, endangered ones at that and we need them to breed. It is only right that they are put in a situation which allows this to happen. If they don't breed after this... well so be it.

We need to stop projecting human emotions on animals, because animals don't have human emotions.

psychward · 11-11-2011 12:15am

jokes aside .... is there really a gay group so extreme that they would rather a species of penguin dies out than simply be placed next to a female ''just in case'' they reproduce ?
Not that I believe the argument but only extremist idiots would play into the hands of the oft used homophobic argument that ''gayness'' should be stamped out because it will endanger the survival of the species.

gurramok · 11-11-2011 12:30am

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

I assume (hope!) you're not being sincere. These are animals, endangered ones at that and we need them to breed. It is only right that they are put in a situation which allows this to happen. If they don't breed after this... well so be it.

We need to stop projecting human emotions on animals, because animals don't have human emotions.

How do you know?

oppenheimer1 · 11-11-2011 12:31am

gurramok wrote: »

How do you know?

Because they are animals:rolleyes:

Killer Pigeon · 11-11-2011 12:36am

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

I assume (hope!) you're not being sincere. These are animals, endangered ones at that and we need them to breed. It is only right that they are put in a situation which allows this to happen. If they don't breed after this... well so be it.

We need to stop projecting human emotions on animals, because animals don't have human emotions.

How do you know that penguins don't feel heartbreak too? Don't penguins keep the same mate for years on end?

The breeding issue could easily be solved using IVF and collecting the penguin's sperm.

smokingman · 11-11-2011 12:37am

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Because they are animals:rolleyes:

Apes show emotions akin to ours; you have to remember, we're animals too.

Killer Pigeon · 11-11-2011 12:37am

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

Because they are animals:rolleyes:

Humans are animals too.

charlemont · 11-11-2011 12:41am

yutta wrote: »

But you must ask how God could allow for love without the potential for evil? God could have created robots that do nothing more than forever say, "I love you, I love you, I love you." Such beings would be incapable of any kind of real love. Love is a choice, and the Bible says that God desires a real love relationship with His creation. Love is not real unless we have the ability to not love.

God knew that in a world with much choice, there would be much evil: to choose not to love is evil by definition. However, there would also be the capacity for real love. Philosopher Alvin Plantinga once wrote that "An all loving, all powerful, all knowing Being could permit as much evil as He pleased without forfeiting His claim to being all loving, so long as for every evil state of affairs He permits there is an accompanying greater good".

The potential for love outweighs the existence of evil, especially if evil can only exist for a time. Evil is a side effect of love. Suffering and death are a side effect of evil.

Of course if you refute the existence of God, you won't find much truth in the above, although you might get some insight as to where Christians come from.

I'm not saying these penguins are inherently evil - they probably think they're reproducing. I mean if you stick two penguins in a cell together, eventually the powerful reproductive reflex will kick in.

Your on a mission tonight !! Turn on a porn channel and relax for yourself ..

canadian society for gay animals objects to penguins

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