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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread

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    #8972
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,640 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Presumably he can unretire if someone offers him what he seems fair compensation


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    #8973
    TO.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭TO.


    Looks like Justin Blackmon put the final nail in his NFL coffin. Dumb ass arrested for Mary Jane possession in Oklahoma. Any chance of getting that indefinite suspension removed will now most like be gone. Life time ban on the cards?

    http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/7/24/5933203/justin-blackmon-arrested-marijuana-possession-jaguars


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    #8974
    Masked Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    And he's back to being a complete moron in my book.


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    #8975
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Being arrested with weed is just that an arrest.

    If he got caught with weed in his system, then he could be banned for repeated violating the substance abuse policy.

    But regardless, according the the Jaguars, he has gone completely MIA with nobody in the franchise in communication with him. Its looking like he is done in the NFL anyway.


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    #8976
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Ray Rice is only getting a 2 game suspension for beating the sh1t out of his wife while Josh Gordon is facing a year long suspension for smoking weed...seems a bit ridiculous.


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    #8977
    Phoenix Park
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Phoenix Park


    NFL are a disgrace. Two games is a flucking joke. What a shambles that press conference was too, his wife apologising. Even the Ravens official twitter feed...how do these guys keep their jobs is beyond me.

    NFL need to start coming down on illegal weapons (i will have to phrase that carefully as we all know the gun laws Stateside) /assaults/domestic violence like a ton of bricks. It truly is enough to turn people off the sport.


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    #8978
    JaMarcusHustle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭JaMarcusHustle


    I refused to believe that Rice had said "Sometimes in life you get knocked down..." or something to that effect, until I seen the video. Boggles the mind how he was let go out there without a carefully written, simple 4/5 sentence statement. And as Phoenix said above, the fact that they let his wife apologise in front of those cameras. Boggles the mind.


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    #8979
    Masked Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    JaMarcusHustle wrote: »
    I refused to believe that Rice had said "Sometimes in life you get knocked down..." or something to that effect, until I seen the video. Boggles the mind how he was let go out there without a carefully written, simple 4/5 sentence statement. And as Phoenix said above, the fact that they let his wife apologise in front of those cameras. Boggles the mind.

    What's more unbelievable is that the Ravens account tweeted it, and that his gf deeply regretted her role in the incident. Even some PR intern should know better than that.


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    #8980
    padraig_f
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    I don't have a problem with the 2-game suspension. To me, this is something for the courts to handle. The NFL isn't a court-of-law, to be going down the road of handing out suspensions relative to the extent of crimes would be a pretty dodgy road to go down. I think this is the appropriate action, you give the 'bringing the game into disrepute' suspension, and let the courts handle the severity of the crime.

    Also he loses $500k salary, so if you think of it as a $500k fine, that's pretty hefty.

    The marijuana suspension is obviously wrong and will be changed I think, but if you're dumb enough to test positive twice, I have less sympathy.


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    #8981
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    padraig_f wrote: »
    I don't have a problem with the 2-game suspension. To me, this is something for the courts to handle. The NFL isn't a court-of-law, to be going down the road of handing out suspensions relative to the extent of crimes would be a pretty dodgy road to go down. I think this is the appropriate action, you give the 'bringing the game into disrepute' suspension, and let the courts handle the severity of the crime.

    Also he loses $500k salary, so if you think of it as a $500k fine, that's pretty hefty.

    The marijuana suspension is obviously wrong and will be changed I think, but if you're dumb enough to test positive twice, I have less sympathy.

    Marijuana is a crime and the nfl isn't a court of law.....


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    #8982
    padraig_f
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Marijuana is a crime and the nfl isn't a court of law.....

    The suspension was for failing the NFL's drugs policy, separate to criminal matter.


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    #8983
    SameOleJay
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SameOleJay


    padraig_f wrote: »
    to be going down the road of handing out suspensions relative to the extent of crimes would be a pretty dodgy road to go down.

    How so?

    The Rice ban is farcical, as the whole episode has been.

    Trying to reconcile a 2 game stint for beating a woman with some of they other bans they've handed out is just impossible.


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    #8984
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Marshawn Lynch is holding out.


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    #8985
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Paully D wrote: »
    Marshawn Lynch is holding out.

    Not surprised at all to hear that.


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    #8986
    padraig_f
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    SameOleJay wrote: »
    How so?

    The Rice ban is farcical, as the whole episode has been.

    The NFL doesn't hear the evidence. If people think they should go 'wife beating? throw the book at him!', that's kangaroo court territory. If people think Ray Rice got off lightly for what he did, their issue is with the criminal justice system, not the NFL.
    Trying to reconcile a 2 game stint for beating a woman with some of they other bans they've handed out is just impossible.

    The whole thing about comparing Josh Gordon's ban to Ray Rice's ban is flawed logic. One happened within the laws of the NFL, the other didn't.

    They're not saying Gordon's offence is more serious, they're saying Gordon's fell under the remit of the NFL to deal with, Ray Rice's fell under the criminal justice system to deal with. The NFL applied a penalty for bringing the game into disrepute or whatever, but essentially they're leaving the courts to deal with it, who are much better equipped to do so.


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    #8987
    Masked Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    They're not saying Gordon's offence is more serious, they're saying Gordon's fell under the remit of the NFL to deal with, Ray Rice's fell under the criminal justice system to deal with. The NFL applied a penalty for bringing the game into disrepute or whatever, but essentially they're leaving the courts to deal with it, who are much better equipped to do so.

    it was probably under personal conduct, iirc that's what Big Ben was banned under. He got 4 games after the charges had been dropped.


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    #8988
    Masked Man
    Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    did a quick google and got this, if anybody is interested.

    http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/personal-conduct-policy.pdf


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    #8989
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,824 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    padraig_f wrote: »
    The NFL doesn't hear the evidence. If people think they should go 'wife beating? throw the book at him!', that's kangaroo court territory. If people think Ray Rice got off lightly for what he did, their issue is with the criminal justice system, not the NFL.



    The whole thing about comparing Josh Gordon's ban to Ray Rice's ban is flawed logic. One happened within the laws of the NFL, the other didn't.

    They're not saying Gordon's offence is more serious, they're saying Gordon's fell under the remit of the NFL to deal with, Ray Rice's fell under the criminal justice system to deal with. The NFL applied a penalty for bringing the game into disrepute or whatever, but essentially they're leaving the courts to deal with it, who are much better equipped to do so.

    Right, so why did he get any ban at all then? Either they feel it's in their remit or they don't, it can't be a little bit their business. If they feel they can hand out bans for both things, which they do, then the notion that rice is less guilty than Gordon is ****ing ridiculous. There's no way of taking round it.

    Drugs are bad, m'kay?


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    #8990
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    The NFLPA will have a huge influence in how long a play can be banned for due assualt/bringing the game into disrepute etc. Since there isn't a set/defined list of offences/punishments then the NFL have to tread carefully as if they handed out a year long suspension to Ray Rice for example then they'd face a huge backlash form the NFLPA.

    With the drug situation there is a defined list of punishments already set out. Makes it far more difficult for the player/NFLPA to do anything about it.


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    #8991
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Will Hill signed by the Ravens

    If he makes the team he still has to serve his 6 game suspension


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    #8992
    HigginsJ
    Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Will Hill signed by the Ravens

    If he makes the team he still has to serve his 6 game suspension

    This makes me :(

    Potentially the best safety in the NFL. Glad he didn't go within our division


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    #8993
    Knex*
    Registered Users Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Had a good laugh at Mike Zimmer.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap2000000369024/Mike-Zimmer-mic-d-up-at-Vikings-training-camp

    "I can find a cover 2 corner anywhere, I'm telling ya. We go down to the 7-11 in Bloomington."

    :pac:


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    #8994
    padraig_f
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    padraig_f wrote: »
    New Irish NFL site/podcast I notice...http://the819.tumblr.com/

    Anyone here involved?

    Listened to the first two podcasts. It's good, the guys know their stuff and do it with a bit of humour. Stylewise, similar to Off the Ball/Second Captains.


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    #8995
    adrian522
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    The first major 49ers injury of the offseason...

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000369584/article/niners-rb-kendall-hunter-suffers-torn-acl

    Kendall Hunter has torn his ACL and will miss the season. Terrible news for him and a bit worrying the amount of these sorts of injuries we are seeing.


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    #8996
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    adrian522 wrote: »
    The first major 49ers injury of the offseason...

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000369584/article/niners-rb-kendall-hunter-suffers-torn-acl

    Kendall Hunter has torn his ACL and will miss the season. Terrible news for him and a bit worrying the amount of these sorts of injuries we are seeing.

    Hope this isn't the start of it again. Last season we seemed to have an usually high amount during camp alone.


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    #8997
    adrian522
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Hope this isn't the start of it again. Last season we seemed to have an usually high amount during camp alone.

    Non contact injury too .so hard to know how to prevent them


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    #8998
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Non contact injury too .so hard to know how to prevent them

    Just freaky crap really. Like our first round draft pick Dominique Easley, he's done both his ACL's through non-contact. I always find the non-contact injuries more worrying. A direct impact/contact injury is more understandable, but the non-contact ones can raise many questions regarding the how and the why?


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    #8999
    nerd69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,632 ✭✭✭nerd69


    ahem i understand you have to have confidence but jesus dee you need to show something first
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000370024/article/new-york-jets-dee-milliner-im-the-best-corner-in-nfl


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    #9000
    In Exile
    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭In Exile


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Hope this isn't the start of it again. Last season we seemed to have an usually high amount during camp alone.

    LaMichael James has dislocated his elbow also today.

    Add that to Lattimore struggling still and suddenly it's a very sparse backfield there


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    #9001
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    Just freaky crap really. Like our first round draft pick Dominique Easley, he's done both his ACL's through non-contact. I always find the non-contact injuries more worrying. A direct impact/contact injury is more understandable, but the non-contact ones can raise many questions regarding the how and the why?

    I really think it's a case of bodies (in particular muscle mass) being too big and strong for supportive ligaments and connective tissues to cope. Hence more guys are checking into the snap city hotel than ever before.


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