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"Drivers caught on mobiles to face €1,000 fine"

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    #92
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    djimi wrote: »
    Varadkar doesnt seem to think a lot of stuff out too thoroughly. I get the distinct impression that he feels that he just needs to be seen doing things.

    There is no way on earth that anyone will be getting a €1000 fine for a first offense for using their phone.

    As I said, he is just thumping his chest and banging his fist on the table and the average moron is going gaga over it.
    No one cares about the substance, it's just cosmetic politics, i.e. stuff to make him look good.


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    #93
    rovoagho
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭rovoagho


    bigboss1986 wrote: »
    Look what Polish lad did Cookie VS Police:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b31lg6DTgJw
    Well feckin done :D:D

    That should be in the police dictionary under "wasting police time". What a complete asshat.


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    #94
    Polarix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭Polarix


    tippman1 wrote: »
    About time too:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/drivers-caught-on-mobiles-to-face-1-000-fine-1.1759612

    Good to see, but Politicians and bankers caught raping the country : zero fine.

    There's a severe problem of perspective and justice in this country.


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    #95
    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    rovoagho wrote: »
    That should be in the police dictionary under "wasting police time". What a complete asshat.

    Asshat or not, but there was little they could do about him.
    And they had some laugh as well ;)


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    #96
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    tayto lover wrote: »
    If I had an emergency I'd prefer if he answered the call though.

    Most people don't ring a Garda's mobile looking for help though. And if a station wants to get in contact with a Garda they'll use the cars radio to do so.


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    #97
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    bigboss1986 wrote: »
    Look what Polish lad did Cookie VS Police:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b31lg6DTgJw
    Well feckin done :D:D

    Do that in Ireland, they'd find some way to bring you to the station. They'd ask for you insurance cert and if you didn't have it on you, they'd demand you to bring it to a station within 2 weeks.


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    #98
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    Do that in Ireland, they'd find some way to bring you to the station. They'd ask for you insurance cert and if you didn't have it on you, they'd demand you to bring it to a station within 2 weeks.

    You'd also want to make sure all your tyres are above the correct threshold and all your lights are working etc.


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    #99
    BMJD
    Registered Users Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭BMJD


    The sooner they ban cars altogether the better. It's madness out there.


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    #100
    moc moc a moc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    catallus wrote: »
    Actually in-car cams should be compulsory and they should all be uploading to a public server where anyone can watch everyone. If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear.

    So we'll put a camera in your bedroom and toilet then, will we?

    Seeing as you've nothing to hide and all.
    Actually, I hope your post was ironic too...


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    #101
    The Backwards Man
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    I think people are jumping the gun saying that parrots and bluetooth earpieces are included. If earpieces are outlawed I'll just have to go back to handheld use.


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    #102
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    So what about having the phone in the holder and having torque running, displaying varying engine parameters.
    Read the rpm on the phone screen>accessing information on a mobile device>€1000 fine.
    But read the rev counter on your dash, fine.
    Also, have torque running on a tablet, exact same as the phone, but no SIM card capabilities, also fine.
    I think the Gards, who are not too hot on all dat computher stuff, will either not do a damn thing about it, or they will just pull anyone that happens to have a phone or tablet with them, no matter where it is or what they're doing with it and try and slap €1k fines on the lot of them.

    A Boardsie was done for using a phone, even though he was only scratching his ear.
    Scratch your ear now, it'll set you back a bag of sand.
    I will just sit rigid in my car, staring straight ahead, not moving a muscle.
    If I hit someone, it's still better than being done to the tune of a thousand bucks.


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    #103
    CiniO
    Registered Users Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    So what about having the phone in the holder and having torque running, displaying varying engine parameters.
    Read the rpm on the phone screen>accessing information on a mobile device>€1000 fine.
    But read the rev counter on your dash, fine.
    Also, have torque running on a tablet, exact same as the phone, but no SIM card capabilities, also fine.
    I think the Gards, who are not too hot on all dat computher stuff, will either not do a damn thing about it, or they will just pull anyone that happens to have a phone or tablet with them, no matter where it is or what they're doing with it and try and slap €1k fines on the lot of them.

    At the moment it's an offence to "hold" a mobile phone.
    How then new law will look - we'll see in some future.


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    #104
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    CiniO wrote: »
    At the moment it's an offence to "hold" a mobile phone.
    How then new law will look - we'll see in some future.

    This is Ireland, the government will spend millions on "consultants" (someone's nephew who will hand in a report, usually copied and pasted from Wikipedia), the government will sit on the report for months whilst "deliberating" (going down the pub) and then will issue legislation (whatever was scribbled on a napkin while they where there).
    Looking at most pieces of legislation that come out in Ireland, it's the only explanation.


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    #105
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I think people are jumping the gun saying that parrots and bluetooth earpieces are included. If earpieces are outlawed I'll just have to go back to handheld use.
    I think that parrots are still okay as long as they're properly secured to a perch or in a cage.


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    #106
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    GarIT wrote: »
    1000 isn't enough. Its as bad as drunk driving, 2 year ban is appropriate.

    Until its your word against a garda who wrongly stops you for using the phone of course. Then your 2 year ban might not be so welcome.


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    #107
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,115 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Good God what did we do before the mobile phone?

    Seriously, so many people who cannot do without the phone for a short period of time. Are we all that important that phone calls won't wait? The mind boggles.


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    #108
    Knob Longman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭Knob Longman


    dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »
    How about total surveillance. And everyone gets to watch everyone, with an automatic "call the gards" button. I get to review your footage but you don't get to see mine, that goes to someone else. This will be done with fly-sized drones that buzz around your head 24/7. There will also be a gard looking at the live stream.
    If we all live blameless lives, we have nothing to fear.

    Shh, That would be a very popular idea here, Nanny Statism is a political ideology here now at this stage. :rolleyes:


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    #109
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    endacl wrote: »
    We managed to drive around the place before the invention of mobile phones and gps apps. Stick it in the glove box till you get there. You'll survive.
    If your ear gets itchy and you scratch it and a Garda sees you €1000 fine for scratching your itchy ear. There was a thread on here not so long ago about something similar even though the driver could prove to the Garda that were no calls on his phone he got no joy.


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    #110
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    If I got half that fine for every clown I see driving while on the phone and clearly not concentrating I would be a millionaire :)


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    #111
    DuckSlice
    Registered Users Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭DuckSlice


    I've started using the apple ear buds that came with the phone when driving, will I still be able to use these? I can answer and make a call without touching the phone with these!


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    #112
    ardle1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    That's crazy, what if your checking your emails! for my Aldi news-letter for Thursday special deals.... This is an outrage ����


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    #113
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    spurious wrote: »
    Good God what did we do before the mobile phone?

    Seriously, so many people who cannot do without the phone for a short period of time. Are we all that important that phone calls won't wait? The mind boggles.

    Well I wasn't driving before the mobile phone but I would prefer my gps to be calling out instructions than messing around with giant maps

    Plus the threads where people get done for guards making up stories about "you were totally using your phone I SWEAR" makes me very skeptical of this altogether


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    #114
    djimi
    Registered Users Posts: 13,238 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    spurious wrote: »
    Good God what did we do before the mobile phone?

    Seriously, so many people who cannot do without the phone for a short period of time. Are we all that important that phone calls won't wait? The mind boggles.

    What did we do without mobile phones? Nowadays my phone is my radio, music player, podcast manager and GPS device, and thats just the things that I use it for when Im in the car. Phone calls/texts account for about 5% of what I use my phone for nowadays. Banning them outright in cars is utterly moronic and shows how out of touch with reality Varadkar is.


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    #115
    RandomAccess
    Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭RandomAccess


    I think this might also affect taxi drivers who use apps such as Hailo.

    The reality is that the rules we already have aren't being enforced so I can't see a major impact from this.
    The worst of all are those idiots holding the phone like a dictaphone, something that should already be a rare occurrence if the laws were enforced, but plainly are not.


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    #116
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    RandomAccess wrote: »
    I think this might also affect taxi drivers who use apps such as Hailo.

    As if taxi drivers care about the rules.....!!!


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    #117
    Sobanek
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭Sobanek


    jack presley wrote: »
    As if taxi drivers care about the rules.....!!!

    I had one undertake me on a single lane road today with a passenger onboard. Wish I had a dashcam for moments like these.


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    #118
    pjproby
    Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭pjproby


    The major beneficiary of this proposed law will be the legal profession. I foresee endless challenges to this one.


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    #119
    Interslice
    Registered Users Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭Interslice


    A guard drove past me earlier on the phone. I was in a big line of traffic waiting to exit the phoenix park. Not a good example to be setting.


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    #120
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Interslice wrote: »
    A guard drove past me earlier on the phone. I was in a big line of traffic waiting to exit the phoenix park. Not a good example to be setting.
    Gardaí are allowed use mobile phones while driving.


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    #121
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    No Pants wrote: »
    I think that parrots are still okay as long as they're properly secured to a perch or in a cage.

    Yes, but have you ever tried to return a dead parrot? It's a complete nightmare!


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