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Speed cameras in Ireland - a guide

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    gstack166 wrote: »
    Yeah 60km sorry mate. To guess I'd say I was doing 45mph again can't be sure but wasn't going much more than that. Question really I'm asking is, should I have been able to see this light flashing? Also, I've only had the car since last Friday (it's second hand) so isn't there still a good chance if I was caught ill get away with it? I bought the car out of a garage, he said he only had it there 2 weeks so I imagine its still registered to the previous owner as I haven't received the log book yet

    Apparently the Go-Safe vans use infra-red flash which is invisible to the naked eye, so no you shouldn't expect to see a flash from a Go-Safe van. However, Garda vans use visible flash afaik. The dark orange light you saw was probably a reflection.
    As you were doing 80km/h in a 60km/h zone you probably were caught but you'll only know for certain when you get the notice in the letterbox.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭gstack166


    Esel wrote: »
    Nice of you to think like that... not.

    If the previous owner gets a letter about speeding points, you can be sure he/she will be getting on to the garage for your details (or referring the authorities to the garage).

    Jesus, the good doo'ers are out. All I said was that I wouldn't get the letter because I haven't received the log book. You can be sure he/she will not get onto the garage for my details, he/she will ring up themselves and simply explain they sold the car, and that will be that as far as he/she is concerned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 902 ✭✭✭JMSE


    I see they've created a new zone on the N22 between Glenflesk and Killarney for the gosafes to operate. Humbug to that, I enjoyed manys an evening cruising through the hills to Ballyvourney happy in the knowledge that it was just the boys in blue I had to worry about. Why the new zone I wonder??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Apparently the Go-Safe vans use infra-red flash which is invisible to the naked eye, so no you shouldn't expect to see a flash from a Go-Safe van. However, Garda vans use visible flash afaik. The dark orange light you saw was probably a reflection.

    You can see the infrared (Depending on your eyesight and angle) as a very, very faint red glow. Its a huge flash on a DVR. Which could be mistakn as orange in some lighting conditions. Both GoSafe and Garda use infrared. Some Garda vans still use visible flash, all GoSafe use infrared.

    If you really want to know if you've been caught, buy a DVR and check the footage if your ever unsure! Another bonus to the list of many for buying one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Mick990


    Hey lads im realy sorry if this has been asked before but if the go safe vans are using an infrared flash would the light from your headlights not then end up blacking out the pic ??

    I admit i am only basing this on movies when you see people wearing infrared goggles going blind when a light goes on or maybe this is a completely different science


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,589 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I think you might be getting confused with night vision?


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Mick990


    antodeco wrote: »
    I think you might be getting confused with night vision?

    Ah sorry you are right first dumbass moment of the day :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,256 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    JMSE wrote: »
    I see they've created a new zone on the N22 between Glenflesk and Killarney for the gosafes to operate. Humbug to that, I enjoyed manys an evening cruising through the hills to Ballyvourney happy in the knowledge that it was just the boys in blue I had to worry about. Why the new zone I wonder??
    The official reason is because somebody died there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Mick990 wrote: »
    Hey lads im realy sorry if this has been asked before but if the go safe vans are using an infrared flash would the light from your headlights not then end up blacking out the pic ??

    I admit i am only basing this on movies when you see people wearing infrared goggles going blind when a light goes on or maybe this is a completely different science

    GoSafe vans, very sophisticated stuff, compensate for headlights very quickly. Much faster than regular CCTV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,193 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    ironclaw wrote: »
    GoSafe vans, very sophisticated stuff, compensate for headlights very quickly. Much faster than regular CCTV.


    what specs do you have for the camera system ? or are you regurgitating what others have said and making the rest up ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    mikeecho wrote: »
    what specs do you have for the camera system ? or are you regurgitating what others have said and making the rest up ?

    For the record, I don't regurgitate. I only post what I know to be fact. I've probably come up against every police threat known to man.

    As regards the above,its personal experience and hard fact. Its not exactly military spec or classified info. Its just a camera that has a very quick reacting iris and white balance. They are publicly available. So irregardless of lighting conditions it can get a perfect snap shot. The example I was shown was multiple passes with dips, heads, fogs, sudden heads, sudden dips etc. Snapped every time. Used for ANPR as well. If you search hard enough, the manufacturer has a video on YouTube.

    You also have to remember the camera is day and night, so that adds a level of complexity in terms of filters etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 902 ✭✭✭JMSE


    flazio wrote: »
    The official reason is because somebody died there.

    when?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    JMSE wrote: »
    I see they've created a new zone on the N22 between Glenflesk and Killarney for the gosafes to operate. Humbug to that, I enjoyed manys an evening cruising through the hills to Ballyvourney happy in the knowledge that it was just the boys in blue I had to worry about. Why the new zone I wonder??



    The RSA's road collisions map shows three fatal crashes on the N22 in that general area.

    Personally I think it is irrational to wait until people die before considering speed surveillance in any location, but that's the politics of Irish traffic law enforcement for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 topcat31


    was caught doing 39km on Eden Quay in Dublin which is a 30km zone .was caught by a go safe van but when i looked up the garda website Eden Quay is not listed on the map for go safe camera locations .is there anything i can do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    topcat31 wrote: »
    was caught doing 39km on Eden Quay in Dublin which is a 30km zone .was caught by a go safe van but when i looked up the garda website Eden Quay is not listed on the map for go safe camera locations .is there anything i can do

    You weren't caught by a GoSafe van. Unless the GoSafe van is in a GoSafe zone as listed by the Garda website, it cannot issue a fine.

    You were caught by a Garda van. They can appear on any road in the country, at any time and issue a fine.

    Can people please take a moment to realise the difference between a Garda van and a GoSafe van?

    Also at 39km/h true speed, your speedo would have been showing closer to ~45km/h. You would have known your were well over the limit. Apologises for the harshness but as a person who has the utmost hatred for the vans I have no sympathy, its a well marked 'dead slow' zone which isn't very long.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 topcat31


    it was a go safe van i saw it too late hands up i was caught speeding but the location was not marked on the garda list of locations.if you look it up eden quay is not of of the locations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    topcat31 wrote: »
    it was a go safe van i saw it too late hands up i was caught speeding but the location was not marked on the garda list of locations.if you look it up eden quay is not of of the locations

    It was not a GoSafe van if it was on Eden Quay and gave you a fine. It was a Garda van. They live there and they are allowed issue fines. Zones only apply to GoSafe.

    Look at my post here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83936423&postcount=7

    If you are categorically sure it was a GoSafe van i.e. Had all the markings and trimmings, and looks like one in the photos marked 'GoSafe that can issue fines' you might have a case. But I sincerely doubt it. I'd wager your legal costs it wasn't a GoSafe van. They cannot process fines for images outside their zones. Note as well, they have more zones now:

    http://www.garda.ie/gosafe.htm

    Please carefully read the difference between a Garda van and a GoSafe van.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭nacimroc


    I heard the RSA announce a few weeks ago they no longer only operate in areas where people died. They added 700 new locations of their own choosing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    About time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭bbuzz


    With the new locations, do they have to have the speed camera signs up before they can start catching people? Or are the sign "optional"?

    They added part of the N11 in Stillorgan and a sign has been installed just before Priory Avenue (going south), but there's two junctions between the sign and where they generally park up (at St John of Gods). Bit unfair to people who join the dual-carriageway after the speed camera sign, but before the actual speed camera. Also haven't seen any on the northbound side.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    bbuzz wrote: »
    With the new locations, do they have to have the speed camera signs up before they can start catching people? Or are the sign "optional"?

    They added part of the N11 in Stillorgan and a sign has been installed just before Priory Avenue (going south), but there's two junctions between the sign and where they generally park up (at St John of Gods). Bit unfair to people who join the dual-carriageway after the speed camera sign, but before the actual speed camera. Also haven't seen any on the northbound side.

    They can appear anywhere between the signs, not just 'exactly' where the signs are. The zones have only been designated recently so I'd imagine the signs are still being put up. For instance, the N11 from Fassaroe to Glen of the Downs is a new zone but no signs are currently in place.

    However, if you take that as an example, there is no where for a van to safely park before Kilmacanogue. The usual pencil pusher in an office with a highlighter with no local knowledge. Its very easy to guess where these vans will be if you have any knowledge of the locality.

    As for the Foxrock / Stillorgan section the Gardai / Garda van live there anyway so I never push more than the limit anyway. No sympathy for anyone caught along there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭bbuzz


    ironclaw wrote: »
    They can appear anywhere between the signs, not just 'exactly' where the signs are. The zones have only been designated recently so I'd imagine the signs are still being put up. For instance, the N11 from Fassaroe to Glen of the Downs is a new zone but no signs are currently in place.

    However, if you take that as an example, there is no where for a van to safely park before Kilmacanogue. The usual pencil pusher in an office with a highlighter with no local knowledge. Its very easy to guess where these vans will be if you have any knowledge of the locality.

    As for the Foxrock / Stillorgan section the Gardai / Garda van live there anyway so I never push more than the limit anyway. No sympathy for anyone caught along there.

    I realise that they can appear anywhere in the speed camera zone, my point was that there's nothing to tell people who join the dual carriageway after the sign that they are entering a speed camera zone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    bbuzz wrote: »
    I realise that they can appear anywhere in the speed camera zone, my point was that there's nothing to tell people who join the dual carriageway after the sign that they are entering a speed camera zone

    True actually. Way too many signs / cost I'd imagine is probably the answer to that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭ohyesthefinest


    I passed a Garda Van (not traffic corp) which had a camera looking yoke on the dashboard just above the steering wheel. I am wondering can this calculate speed as I was roughly going 80 in a 80 zone. Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭ohyesthefinest


    The Van was moving by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    I passed a Garda Van (not traffic corp) which had a camera looking yoke on the dashboard just above the steering wheel. I am wondering can this calculate speed as I was roughly going 80 in a 80 zone. Cheers

    A Garda Transit van? Be more specific. There are Garda Jeeps with ANPR.

    And in all cases camera vans don't prosecute or operate for speed whilst moving.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭ohyesthefinest


    Yep, a Garda transit van. So in other words I have nothing to worry about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Yep, a Garda transit van. So in other words I have nothing to worry about?

    Your fine :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Padkir


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Your fine :)

    "Your fine" might be in the post...

    However, you're fine! :D

    Got I hate grammar nazi me when I've been drinking! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,306 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Okay driving along the Blackrock bypass heading into town and there was a garda car parked in the small slip lane where buses pull in on the opposite side of the road to the garda station. There was no garda present but there was a small box that looked like a camera pointing out the back window of the car. Im pretty sure i was at least 5kph over the speed limit so should i be worried or was it nothing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭AltAccount


    If it was the size of a cigarette box or so, it was ANPR and tax/insurance/stolen car-related


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Ofiann


    Hi folks, today i passed a speed cam between oldcastle and virginia, ot was around half way, i was doing 80km, but i am not sure what speed limit was. maybe some1 can help me? about 4 miles after the speed van i did see a sign that said 80km but i couldn't spot it again on google map!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭DanWall


    I was always interested in the long term accuracy of these speed cameras, if the are catching people for small amounts over the limit. From a calibration point of view it must be at least 4 times better than the recorded figure (this is standard industrial practice) eg. if they say you are doing 4kph over the camera must be better than 1kmph accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    DanWall wrote: »
    I was always interested in the long term accuracy of these speed cameras, if the are catching people for small amounts over the limit. From a calibration point of view it must be at least 4 times better than the recorded figure (this is standard industrial practice) eg. if they say you are doing 4kph over the camera must be better than 1kmph accurate.

    Accuracy apparently is +/- 1.5km/h. At a minimum, its +/- 3km/h. At least that was the old spec I read.

    But look at it this way, your car speedo is normally over reading by between 5 to 10%. So at 60km/h on your speedo, your probably doing anywhere between 57km/h and 54km/h in reality.

    So, if a camera snaps you at 62km/h, your speedo will be (most likely) reading higher than 65km/h. So you know you are speeding. You know you are well over.

    Anyway, Irish law states there is no requirement for the unit to be calibrated or for them to prove the unit is accurate or even in full working order.


  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭D_murph


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Accuracy apparently is +/- 1.5km/h. At a minimum, its +/- 3km/h. At least that was the old spec I read.

    But look at it this way, your car speedo is normally over reading by between 5 to 10%. So at 60km/h on your speedo, your probably doing anywhere between 57km/h and 54km/h in reality.

    So, if a camera snaps you at 62km/h, your speedo will be (most likely) reading higher than 65km/h. So you know you are speeding. You know you are well over.

    Anyway, Irish law states there is no requirement for the unit to be calibrated or for them to prove the unit is accurate or even in full working order.

    That last part is a disgrace on its own. The equipment could be faulty but the drivers that it wrongfully takes pictures of will have no comeback.
    They really want our money bad :rolleyes:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭DanWall


    Yes the speedo is always reading positive and it also depends on the wear on the tyres. I use my Sat Nav which is about 5kph less than the speedo and is more accurate according to Garmin.
    If it was a factory they would have to follow these guidelines for ISO 9000 etc.
    There is a large amount of uncertainty when they are doing people for small amounts such as 5 kph


  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭D_murph


    My point is that it is a disgrace that they do not have to calibrate the equipment at all to validate prosecutions.

    The same old speed guns (that have most likely been dropped a few times throughout their time and/or are several years old, are still being used to fine motorists that may well have been innocent but there is no way for them to have a comeback due to this flawed part of the law.

    Guilty until proven innocent if the offence is small enough, it seems :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    D_murph wrote: »
    My point is that it is a disgrace that they do not have to calibrate the equipment at all to validate prosecutions.

    The same old speed guns (that have most likely been dropped a few times throughout their time and/or are several years old, are still being used to fine motorists that may well have been innocent but there is no way for them to have a comeback due to this flawed part of the law.

    Guilty until proven innocent if the offence is small enough, it seems :rolleyes:

    Meh could also work in your favor ... they don't automatically read everything as faster when they are defective :)

    At least its not like the US, where in some parts its enough for the copy to just say in his opinion you were driving too fast ;P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    DanWall wrote: »
    There is a large amount of uncertainty when they are doing people for small amounts such as 5 kph




    How many motorists are being done for "small amounts such as 5 kph"?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=87168415


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  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭D_murph


    Meh could also work in your favor ... they don't automatically read everything as faster when they are defective :)

    At least its not like the US, where in some parts its enough for the copy to just say in his opinion you were driving too fast ;P

    Not guaranteed to read your speed as faster, no but they actually can do it and have done in the past. It has something to do with reflections from other cars nearby etc. A guy in the UK (Professor Clarke I think it was) was able to get prove it a few years ago. No links cos Im doing this on my phone but it can be googled for if you want :).

    Cops here can just say you were driving too fast for conditions or dangerously also ;).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭DanWall


    I got done for 10kph which is only 6 mph, as said many times you can spend all your time looking at the speedo or let it drift up and down a bit. The average system is much better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭DanWall


    I got done for 10kph which is only 6 mph, as said many times you can spend all your time looking at the speedo or let it drift up and down a bit. The average system is much better. My first offence in 20 yr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    DanWall wrote: »
    I got done for 10kph which is only 6 mph, as said many times you can spend all your time looking at the speedo or let it drift up and down a bit. The average system is much better

    10km/h over? You do realise your speedo was probably reading anywhere between 5 and 10% over? If you were caught doing a true speed of 70km/h in a 60km/h, hence over the limit by a true 10km/h, your speedo would have been reading a minimum of around 75km/h. Thats not a drift, thats a massive gap. If you can't keep your speed with 5km/h of a limit, then there is something seriously up with your driving technique.

    Also, if you were averaged at 70km/h true speed, your still speeding. 'Averaging' doesn't work in your favour if you are still speeding :confused:

    The M50 is about 45km long. If you did 160km/h from start to finish, it would take you about 16 minutes. At 100km/h, it would take you about 27 minutes. If you wanted to do 160km/h on the M50, and beat an average speed camera (Assuming one at the start and one at the very end) you'd have to pull in and STOP for a full 10 mins just before the end.

    aka: Absolutely no point.

    Also ties in nicely to those who insist on doing 120km/h+ on the M50 100km/h sections. For the sake of 2 points and €80, your saving about 5 mins. Doesn't seem worth it to me to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭DanWall


    Well done. Slap on the wrist for me. As it was I was doing 60 in a 50 and I don't live anywhere near the M50, I do not know the exact spot but they do this coming into a derestriction from 60 to 50


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 blusey35


    I'm wondering wether if I was caught speeding as the doors were open on the speed van and the operator was outside measuring how far in off the road he was can anyone be able to she'd some light on this matter

    Thank you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    blusey35 wrote: »
    I'm wondering wether if I was caught speeding as the doors were open on the speed van and the operator was outside measuring how far in off the road he was can anyone be able to she'd some light on this matter

    Thank you

    Answered your own question. He was calibrating the system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Mr Keek


    Can video evidence from the on board, front windscreen dash cam(Not the speed cam) of a GO SAFE van whiles being driven, be given to the Guards for later prosecution?

    I watched some clown speed past a Go Safe van this morning(dual carriageway, both vehicles were moving in full motion), and after he overtook the van. He made a dodgy maneuver; the driver went to change lanes in front of the van, but the car up ahead changed before him, so he suddenly change back to his origonal lane.

    From what I could judge, he was obeying the limit while he was behind the van, and as soon as he would out of the way from the camera, he booted it.

    As I was behind the guy, I saw the speed van driver take his reg from the other lane, and he was taking notes when they were both stopped at traffic lights. The speed van guy tried to gain the drivers attention, but your man never responded and looked like he ignored him; he didn't roll down his window anyway.

    Your man deserves a Darwin award, talk about tempting fate!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Mr Keek wrote: »
    Can video evidence from the on board, front windscreen dash cam(Not the speed cam) of a GO SAFE van whiles being driven, be given to the Guards for later prosecution?

    I watched some clown speed past a Go Safe van this morning(dual carriageway, both vehicles were moving in full motion), and after he overtook the van. He made a dodgy maneuver; the driver went to change lanes in front of the van, but the car up ahead changed before him, so he suddenly change back to his origonal lane.

    From what I could judge, he was obeying the limit while he was behind the van, and as soon as he would out of the way from the camera, he booted it.

    As I was behind the guy, I saw the speed van driver take his reg from the other lane, and he was taking notes when they were both stopped at traffic lights. The speed van guy tried to gain the drivers attention, but your man never responded and looked like he ignored him; he didn't roll down his window anyway.

    Your man deserves a Darwin award, talk about tempting fate!

    Whilst in motion, a GoSafe van is like any other motorists, they are entitled to make complaints to the relevant authorities. Their DVR / CCTV systems could be shown to the Gardai but would carry no more weight than you or me in court, it would be up to the courts to decide if admissible.

    For the record, GoSafe DO NOT operate while in motion. They DO NOT measure, record or capture speed offences while in motion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 chriso1969


    I got caught speeding doing 80klms in a 50 klm zone..i know I was wrong but I had a medical emergency and needed to use a toilet..however the speed camera was facing the opposite direction and the other side of the road and took a photo of my back reg plate. I spoke to a serving guard who told me the speed camera has to be facing a oncoming car to check the speed I was going.Is this true? also the speed camera van was black and not visible to the eye? does anybody know if this is true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    chriso1969 wrote: »
    I got caught speeding doing 80klms in a 50 klm zone..i know I was wrong but I had a medical emergency and needed to use a toilet..however the speed camera was facing the opposite direction and the other side of the road and took a photo of my back reg plate. I spoke to a serving guard who told me the speed camera has to be facing a oncoming car to check the speed I was going.Is this true? also the speed camera van was black and not visible to the eye? does anybody know if this is true?

    Garda is completely wrong first of all.

    On a standard two lane road, a speed camera van can measure speed of a car coming towards or going away from the rear of the van only. So they will either capture your front or rear reg plate.

    Exception to that rule would be if two cars passed at exactly the same time facing in opposite directions. Then its null. There can only be one car and one car only in each photo.

    Speed camera vans can be any color. They have been spotted in white, red, green, dark brown and black. The difference is, a GoSafe van to be operating and issuing fines, must be marked up accordingly (i.e. Big reflective signs, Camera logos etc) and in a GoSafe zone whilst a Garda van can be completely unmarked and appear on any road.

    Are you sure it was a speed camera van? Because unless it had clear markings, it sounds like a GoSafe monitoring van which does not issue fines.

    If you had a genuine medical emergency and could prove it, I'd go before a judge before taking the points. Best of luck.


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