Orion launch 4th Dec 1205pm

irishgeo · 04-12-2014 4:11pm

dlouth15 wrote: »

I'm glad. I would have missed it if it went off today.

How come they only have certain launch windows. Can't they lash the thing into space anytime of the day.

dbran · 04-12-2014 4:35pm

I suspect that need to make sure that they recover the craft on re-entry. Wont do any good if it comes down in Russia or over Syria.

dbran

dlouth15 · 04-12-2014 4:46pm

Possibly a reason in this case is that they may want a daytime launch and a daytime recovery for this first flight. A 4.5 hour duration flight plus a bit of leeway mean they only have a limited window in which to launch.

Fluffy88 · 05-12-2014 11:55am

Commentary for today's launch begins in 5 minutes (11am our time).

The weather forecast for today calls for a 40 percent chance of acceptable conditions during the launch window which opens at 7:05 a.m. EST and closes at 9:44 a.m.

That's a launch windows of 12pm - 2:44pm our time

Blog: https://blogs.nasa.gov/orion/
Live stream: http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv

Thargor · 05-12-2014 12:46pm

Liveblog with stream again:

http://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/live/2014/dec/05/nasas-orion-launch-second-attempt-at-crew-capsule-takeoff-live

All go for launch in 20 minutes, 12:05 GMT.

Thargor · 05-12-2014 12:59pm

Various acronyms: Go go go go go go go go go - Love it, never gets old

Thargor · 05-12-2014 1:00pm

5 minutes, looking good.

Thargor · 05-12-2014 1:02pm

Best stream:

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#.VIGdqme6jqM

fricatus · 05-12-2014 1:07pm

Aaaaaaand LIFTOFF!!!

Standman · 05-12-2014 1:08pm

Stream went down for me a t-6 seconds

:mad::( . Very frustrating.

Thargor · 05-12-2014 1:09pm

Success it looks like, that seemed like a very fast ascent, faster than a shuttle launch?

Standard Toaster · 05-12-2014 1:19pm

That thing hauled ass!

Firefox11 · 05-12-2014 1:20pm

GO ORION! Man... that delta v takes off like a bullet!

greedygoblin · 05-12-2014 2:01pm

Ah crap. I missed it.

Fluffy88 · 05-12-2014 2:04pm

Me too

It's up on youtube already though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hn8qnsucwo

irishgeo · 05-12-2014 2:22pm

Firefox11 wrote: »

GO ORION! Man... that delta v takes off like a bullet!

If the delta is fast wait till they actually load it on the rocket its supposed to go on.

shedweller · 05-12-2014 3:58pm

Whats the timeline for landing?

mickmackey1 · 05-12-2014 4:01pm

Splashdown at 4.29

dlouth15 · 05-12-2014 4:04pm

Great live views of the earth out the window from the high orbit.

Tomk1 · 05-12-2014 4:55pm

This is some of the best TV I've seen in a long time accept it's not on TV.
Barndi Dean o I dream

Firefox11 · 05-12-2014 5:21pm

Now on re-entry.

Firefox11 · 05-12-2014 5:28pm

Parachutes deployed.

shedweller · 05-12-2014 5:37pm

Video is freezing a lot

shedweller · 05-12-2014 7:08pm

There's lots of pics being put up on twitter that show what i presume is taken from the recovery ship. There's a nice charred look to Orion if i say so myself!

Capt'n Midnight · 06-12-2014 2:05am

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

big deal this , first step to Mars

Or you could look at it as re-inventing the Saturn I and Apollo

It's 50 years since they launched the first orbital test flights of Apollo and it's service module.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS-102_%28spacecraft%29

In 6 years we might have manned missions, maybe
Back in the 60's they got to the moon and back in less time.

Hopefully NASA is back on track, but still early days.

nokia69 · 06-12-2014 6:05am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Hopefully NASA is back on track, but still early days.

I don't think so, this is more of the same from NASA, so far the Orion has cost 9 billion and its still not finished, thats a crazy waste of money, criminal IMO

the sooner this thing gets cancelled the better

shedweller · 06-12-2014 9:15am

nokia69 wrote: »

I don't think so, this is more of the same from NASA, so far the Orion has cost 9 billion and its still not finished, thats a crazy waste of money, criminal IMO

the sooner this thing gets cancelled the better

Yer fierce negative!
What would be a better way of spending the money?

nokia69 · 06-12-2014 9:54am

shedweller wrote: »

Yer fierce negative!
What would be a better way of spending the money?

well to develop the falcon 9 and the dragon 1, spaceX spent just under 900 million

dragon 2 will cost less than 2.6 billion, and its more complex than Orion IMO

for 9 billion I would expect some serious progress not just a copy of an Apollo era capsule

shedweller · 06-12-2014 4:03pm

Fair points. I suppose it was a slightly more palatable way of borrowing more money. At least it partly went into wages and onwards back into the economy eh?!

Capt'n Midnight · 06-12-2014 5:51pm

shedweller wrote: »

Fair points. I suppose it was a slightly more palatable way of borrowing more money. At least it partly went into wages and onwards back into the economy eh?!

Pork Barrelling was the main reason why the Shuttle's boosters had to be made in sections with O rings at the joints just so they could be road transportable instead of being shipped and we all know how that turned out.

nokia69 wrote: »

for 9 billion I would expect some serious progress not just a copy of an Apollo era capsule

At least they weren't using a triple core Atlas V ( at this stage the V nearly stands for Vostok )

*cough* command module *cough*
http://www.space-airbusds.com/en/programme/mpcv-esm-v15.html

Under an agreement between NASA and ESA, ratified in December 2012, the new American Orion vehicle for manned space exploration missions will be powered by a European service module based on the design and experience of the ATV (Automated Transfer Vehicle), the supply craft for the International Space Station (ISS) developed and built by Airbus Defence and Space.

Also Delta IV Heavy isn't man rated but academic seeing as how these are only proving flights.

Then again a later model of the Saturn IB did launch manned flights in 1968

Saturn 1B on the Milkstool vs. Saturn V

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6FORr1XKb4

shedweller · 07-12-2014 6:58pm

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/nasaorion/sets/72157641969853204/

Capt'n Midnight · 07-12-2014 9:31pm

Also this week

Hayabusa 2 is an asteroid sample return mission operated by the Japanese space agency

The target is asteroid (162173) 1999 JU3. Hayabusa 2 is expected to arrive at the target in July 2018, survey the asteroid for a year and a half, depart in December 2019, and return to Earth in December 2020.[5]

The spacecraft features ion engines, upgraded guidance and navigation technology, antennas and attitude control systems.[7] Operations at the asteroid will be similar[clarification needed] to those of the previous Hayabusa, but with an explosive device to dig the asteroid surface for fresh sample material

http://smsc.cnes.fr/MASCOT/

MASCOT is a 10 kg lander equipped with a mobility mechanism which will enable it to visit up to 3 sites on the asteroid. The only source of energy is its primary batteries which last for a maximum of 12 hours.

Capt'n Midnight · 09-12-2014 12:06am

This week \o/

Mountainsandh · 09-12-2014 8:04pm

I missed the whole excitement of the live event this time. Did Orion take pics of space at its furthest point of orbit ? All along, actually ? Can it ? I know it was short and fast...
I've seen the stunning Earth image.

shedweller · 09-12-2014 9:06pm

I missed the launch and orbits but got the landing. I dont know if they have any video from inside the capsule. That would be cool eh?

Streets_of Rage 2 Come_On · 09-12-2014 11:03pm

nokia69 wrote: »

well to develop the falcon 9 and the dragon 1, spaceX spent just under 900 million

dragon 2 will cost less than 2.6 billion, and its more complex than Orion IMO

for 9 billion I would expect some serious progress not just a copy of an Apollo era capsule

Chinas building a brand new Rocket and brand new Engine. Long March 9 for a Moon Run in 2028.

http: //usa .chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2014-12/08/content_19043616.htm

http

/ en. wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System

Mountainsandh · 10-12-2014 1:09am

shedweller wrote: »

I missed the launch and orbits but got the landing. I dont know if they have any video from inside the capsule. That would be cool eh?

There's a Mirror or Daily Mail article that claims they do, but no official link that I found. Don't know if speed would have allowed much, I'm interested in these things but I have a congenital logic deficiency condition :pac:

shedweller · 10-12-2014 11:12am

At any rate, the cameras would (should) have recorded and saved internally. I know i'd fit it out with go-pros everywhere! Space rated go-pros of course, complete with two or three extra zeros on the price tag!

Firefox11 · 10-12-2014 7:52pm

shedweller wrote: »

I missed the launch and orbits but got the landing. I dont know if they have any video from inside the capsule. That would be cool eh?

The complete test flight from on-board cams sped up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s98NtfIcuGg

Im sure we will get lovely hi res HD video once the download it from the actual spacecraft.

shedweller · 10-12-2014 8:02pm

Firefox11 wrote: »

The complete test flight from on-board cams sped up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s98NtfIcuGg

Im sure we will get lovely hi res HD video once the download it from the actual spacecraft.

Nice one!

Streets_of Rage 2 Come_On · 12-12-2014 3:12am

HD vid and pics

http: // www .extremetech.com/extreme/195517-orions-first-space-flight-now-in-high-res-photos-and-videos

Capt'n Midnight · 13-12-2014 2:43am

India are developing a crew module too.

But they won't be flight testing it until ... wait for it ... Thursday :cool:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Isro-to-test-GSLV-Mk-III-crew-module-on-December-18/articleshow/45444522.cms

Somanath said that 325 seconds after the lift off, the crew module — made of aluminium alloy and with a lift-off mass of 3,735kg — will separate from the rocket at an altitude of 126km. Three different types of parachutes tested at facilities in Chandigarh and at Sriharikota by dropping them from a helicopter will be deployed during the descent. About 1,280 seconds after the launch the module will splashdown in the Bay of Bengal at a point 600km from Port Blair. It will be recovered by the Indian Coast Guard.

Somanath said that the module has an ablative thermal protection system because during re-entry into the atmosphere, it will experience heat around 1,600 degrees C.

Capt'n Midnight · 18-12-2014 6:08pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-30527602

The 630-tonne Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (MK III) blasted off from Sriharikota in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh on Thursday morning.
...
The rocket's main cargo was an Indian-made capsule capable of carrying two to three astronauts into space.

Isro said the capsule has "safely splashed down into Bay of Bengal off Andaman and Nicobar Islands" and that the experiment was successful..

Firefox11 · 21-12-2014 1:14am

A cool Orion re-entry to splashdown video has been released by NASA.

Looks pretty amazing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibtsgAig3Yk

shedweller · 21-12-2014 2:31am

Very good video! One thing i noticed was a sudden transition to a more vertical trajectory at the 4:10 mark or thereabouts. The sky gets blue suddenly after Orion turned downwards.

Orion launch 4th Dec 1205pm

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