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Bus Eireann routes 109/109A Changes

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  • #502
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Commuter109 wrote: »
    Got the 8.20 today, havent gone the old road in a long time. Interestingly according to the timetable 8.20am gets to Dunslaughlin at 8.40 and arrives in bus aras at 9.25.

    Granted it was a Monday etc.. but it took 20 minutes to get out of Navan alone (i.e market square, Johnston and Kilcarne stops) and the numbers getting on weren't big, circa 30 people I'd say, but the dreaded online tickets/ cash held the whole show up.

    Eventually got to O connell Street at 9.45. (which probabaly meant it was at least 9.50 getting into Bus Aras)

    Two interesting things I noted, one being that the Navan Town service bus went by us and if my eyes werent mistaken, it has leap card functionality?

    Secondly is the number of recently added stops on the old N3, being serious there appears to new stops probabaly less that a kilometer apart in some cases, and stops, in some cases which seem to have been put in, to service what appears to be a very small number of houses.

    Does anyone know how BE/ NTA decides on where to position official stops, or is a case that if you make a nuisance of yourself or have the right people contact them they'll stick a personal stop wherever you request?

    As per my post in the LEAP thread - most Bus Eireann PSO routes in the Dublin & East region now take LEAP.

    See here.


  • #503
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    Joke shop this week on the non express buses. Have got two non expresses this week , a 5.45 that left at 5.55 and now I'm on the 5.30 slow coach which eventually left bus aras at 5.42 .


  • #504
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    Worse this service is getting. 6.30 express full at 6.26 and people turned away. Happening all too frequently on the small number of express services BE have


  • #505
    Fiskar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Fiskar


    Don't think I would be happy paying €2,900 for an annual ticket for the service being offered. Here I am on a nice comfortable train with full wifi going to the M3 parkway. Don't miss that joke service.


  • #506
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    People pissed off and rightly so this evening with the 6.30 express been full and pulling out at 6.23. Was the same yesterday with bus full at 6.27.

    Got two expresses last week and it was the same story.


  • #507
    sofireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭sofireland


    I suppose the as the saying goes the early bird gets the worm.
    The problem particularly with the 630 is the bus itself is usually a private hire, and the one on that my wife gets is only maybe 38 seats or so? Where as the BE doubles can take how many 75?

    The biggest joke with the whole service is the two direct buses in the morning - the Ardboyne stop is ridiculous. Why they don't run 1 from that stop and 1 from the square is beyond me.


  • #508
    tom23
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭tom23


    sofireland wrote: »
    I suppose the as the saying goes the early bird gets the worm.
    The problem particularly with the 630 is the bus itself is usually a private hire, and the one on that my wife gets is only maybe 38 seats or so? Where as the BE doubles can take how many 75?

    The biggest joke with the whole service is the two direct buses in the morning - the Ardboyne stop is ridiculous. Why they don't run 1 from that stop and 1 from the square is beyond me.

    Well here is one for ya. Two private buses pull out at 9:30 from Busaras. One is a smaller coach that goes direct to Navan. First stop is the Ardboyne. Second bus does all the donkey work, a regular size coach. He has stop all along the road, blanchardstown shopping centre, brace town etc.

    But he still manages to get into Navan at least 5 minutes before the smaller coach who had a straight run. I think it took 70 minutes. Do we have grounds to gripe about a driver driving to slow? Don't want to start a witch hunt on any particular driver but the one that was driving that night would drive you to tears because you know that the journey is going to take at least 10-15 minutes longer than average.

    But a straight run to Navan in a a small coach with no traffic, straight down the M3 in 70 minutes is shocking.


  • #509
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    tom23 wrote: »
    Well here is one for ya. Two private buses pull out at 9:30 from Busaras. One is a smaller coach that goes direct to Navan. First stop is the Ardboyne. Second bus does all the donkey work, a regular size coach. He has stop all along the road, blanchardstown shopping centre, brace town etc.

    But he still manages to get into Navan at least 5 minutes before the smaller coach who had a straight run. I think it took 70 minutes. Do we have grounds to gripe about a driver driving to slow? Don't want to start a witch hunt on any particular driver but the one that was driving that night would drive you to tears because you know that the journey is going to take at least 10-15 minutes longer than average.

    But a straight run to Navan in a a small coach with no traffic, straight down the M3 in 70 minutes is shocking.

    I think I know the driver you are on about, fella thats fond of lifting the mic and giving a running commentary now and again on the most bizarre of stuff

    70 minutes to Navan when using the M3 at 9.30 at night is just not good enough, when you consider the 6.30 can do it in 55 minutes

    Re the earlier comment about the "early bird getting the worm" -I am not suggesting that its a flippant remark, but leaving tax implications aside, if you are spending in excess of €2500 on an annual service, and can't get the bus you want on a consistent basis , which appears to be the case with the express buses constantly filling up early, again its not good enough

    Room for at least one more express service on the Navan - dublin route. in the evening, maybe a 6 oclock would take some of the pressure of the 5.30 and 6.30 expresses.

    Their logic defies me, if I am correct (and i stand open to correction) there are 4 expresses in the morning , 7.05 x 2 and 7.20 x 2?? yet they dont see demand for more than 2 in the evening.

    Did anyone hear anything about these new changes that were spoken about a few month back that are going to add "considerable improvements to the existing service?


  • #510
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    There are ongoing reviews of Bus Eireann services at the moment - the Monaghan and Drogheda areas are seeing the timetable and route changes next weekend (including Navan/Drogheda), as well as Dublin/Mullingar, so there may be something in the pipeline.


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  • #511
    sofireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭sofireland


    Sorry if the comment seemed flippant. But you can only board from 615 or 515. It is meant to leave at the time on the timetable. There are only a finite number of seats on these buses. I know I personally bust a gut to get to busaras on time for those seats.

    Ive given up trying to understand their when it comes to how they set up their services.

    Simply put imo the direct express in the evening should both be double deckers.


  • #512
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    They used a normal single decker coach on the 6.30 this evening , but the result was the same. Full and gone at 6.26 with people refused entry.

    Bottom line is more expresses are needed but I have come to the conclusion that for some unknown reason BE don't like them .

    The have refused for two years to put them on the departures board , the use the most uncomfortable bus i have the experience of been on for the 530 service ( while at the same time running half full new and comfortable coaches elsewhere ) , they use whats not far off a minibus for the 6.30 a lot of the time and simply don't want to run buses the quickest way out of town ie DPT.

    from a business perspective it's hard to understand why any going concern would neglect its most popular product to the extent that BE / NTA do. It's the equivalent of putting the worst produce you have in the shop window.

    Would the sensible thing to do not be for BE/NTA to decide these services are working and attracting paying customers so let's take them back in house , ensure they well run with decent buses and maybe just maybe with proper advertising and good word of mouth more people might be willing to take the bus and leave the car at home if there was a reliable service that offered Navan to Dublin and return journey in an hour each way on a consistent basis ?


  • #513
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    Different day, same story . 6.25 , bus full and six people can't board . ( I'm sure the re will be others who arrive in the next 5 minutes to find the express has left.

    You'd think the penny would drop when you have double digit queues for the 6.30 express at 6.10 I.e people who are not happy to go the nonsensical route that the 6.15 and almost every other 109 takes . The mind truly boggles


  • #514
    Furp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Furp


    Commuter109 wrote: »
    Different day, same story . 6.25 , bus full and six people can't board . ( I'm sure the re will be others who arrive in the next 5 minutes to find the express has left.

    You'd think the penny would drop when you have double digit queues for the 6.30 express at 6.10 I.e people who are not happy to go the nonsensical route that the 6.15 and almost every other 109 takes . The mind truly boggles

    I'm actually wishing I could get off this 109, it's dirty, has an unrecognisable smell and the suspension is knackered. Not yo mention broken seat belts.

    But I agree maybe if a few people write to the nta, ridiculousness having a 40? seater coach for the direct service to Navan.


  • #515
    tom23
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭tom23


    Furp wrote: »
    I'm actually wishing I could get off this 109, it's dirty, has an unrecognisable smell and the suspension is knackered. Not yo mention broken seat belts.

    But I agree maybe if a few people write to the nta, ridiculousness having a 40? seater coach for the direct service to Navan.

    Writing to the NTA is only way your going to influence change on that bus route. cc your local political representative as well. Navan commuters deserve more express buses.


  • #516
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    Business as usual . 6.26 , we're full and we're off ! 6 refused .

    BE - consistency in a world gone mad !


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  • #517
    sofireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭sofireland


    So commuter109 you and I are part of the lucky 39. Wonder has anyone sent a link yo this thread to the NTA


  • #518
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    sofireland wrote: »
    So commuter109 you and I are part of the lucky 39. Wonder has anyone sent a link yo this thread to the NTA

    39? Don't say the lunatics are using a minibus on the route? Surely they wouldn't be that stupid?

    We all know that bus eireann have to reduce costs but this is taking the concept too far.


  • #519
    Furp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Furp


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    39? Don't say the lunatics are using a minibus on the route? Surely they wouldn't be that stupid?

    We all know that bus eireann have to reduce costs but this is taking the concept too far.

    Stupi isn't it to put such a small coach on the express service


  • #520
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    Furp wrote: »
    Stupi isn't it to put such a small coach on the express service

    And one that's not fit for service either, I'm not a mechanical engineer but you cant sleep on that bus most of the time as it shakes it's way violently down the motorway

    Here's one for any of you transportation regulation experts out there, is a bus (and a double decker in particular) obliged by law to have arm rests in this country? I know all of the BE buses have, but some of the older private ones dont

    Cheers


  • #521
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    No they are not.

    Dublin Bus vehicles have no arm rests!!


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  • #522
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Buses on the 109 route should be suitable for expressway duties, but more often those less suitable double deck buses like what is used on the 103/105 are used, and these have their speed limited due to being rated to carry standees.


  • #523
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Buses on the 109 route should be suitable for expressway duties, but more often those less suitable double deck buses like what is used on the 103/105 are used, and these have their speed limited due to being rated to carry standees.

    Agreed, I knew Dublin Bus had no arm rests, but are they allowed on the motorways? Upstairs on the 5.30 express is a nightmare once it hits the motorway


  • #524
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Buses on the 109 route should be suitable for expressway duties, but more often those less suitable double deck buses like what is used on the 103/105 are used, and these have their speed limited due to being rated to carry standees.
    shouldnt Dunshaughlin really be removed from the 109 route and be served by such slower high capacity busses, even sending them to the M3 rail station where users could avail of Dublins fantastic integrated transport and ticketing system, before heading for town.


  • #525
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Commuter109 wrote: »
    Agreed, I knew Dublin Bus had no arm rests, but are they allowed on the motorways? Upstairs on the 5.30 express is a nightmare once it hits the motorway

    Yes they are.

    The 33X, 41X, 142 and 747 all operate along the M1.


  • #526
    Furp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Furp


    They may be allowed but these buses are not really built for motorway journeys, imo they never should be used on trips of over 30 miles to Navan.


  • #527
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    Furp wrote: »
    They may be allowed but these buses are not really built for motorway journeys, imo they never should be used on trips of over 30 miles to Navan.

    7.05 "express" was a fiasco this morning, an hour and twenty to O' Connell Street.

    Took 25 minutes or more to load pasengers at the Square and Johnstown

    BE really need to try to make these express peak time services as cashless as possible, and sort of this internet ticket farce, which makes it more time consuming to actually board the service.


  • #528
    sofireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭sofireland


    They really should push leap big time. Specially if it can be used for 10 journeys. Give the same discount as if buying off the website or even more.
    The travel pass is up to 2850 also. Must be making a fortune on this route


  • #529
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Well the fare increases come in from 1 December, which means that the revised fare structure between Navan and Dublin will be:

    Cash Single - €13.30
    Cash 10 Journey - €60

    Leap Single - €11.25
    Leap 7 Day - €56.50

    Therefore the LEAP card will be cheaper than the 10 Journey ticket by €0.50 (when the 10 journey ticket is bought online), and offer unlimited travel over 7 days.

    Hopefully enough people will get the message and switch over.


  • #530
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    The 6.30 express has finally made the departures board after 2 years . Top drawer stuff. Don't know if its anything to do with NTA having been sent this thread. I'd like to think it was but doubt it!

    Lx is there a definitive date for roll out of leap on 109 ? This morning on the 7.05 was a scandal

    Another thing BE need to look at is the numbers using different services in the evening. There were 27 on the normal kells 630 this evening , far less than was on the 6.30 express.

    Last Thursday i watched the 6.15 and the normal 6.30 pull out and there fewer on both combined than on the 6.30 express.

    Final rant is where the f;;k did all the new bus stops in dunshlaughlin come from? Hate to say it but Time it was taken off the 109 route


  • #531
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Eh, LEAP has been on all Bus Eireann Dublin region services since early October!!!


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  • #532
    sofireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭sofireland


    lxflyer wrote: »
    Eh, LEAP has been on all Bus Eireann Dublin region services since early October!!!

    My point was leap isnt being promoted at all.


  • #533
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    sofireland wrote: »
    My point was leap isnt being promoted at all.

    I was responding to the post asking when LEAP would be introduced on the 109.

    LEAP on Bus Eireann is only really going to start to become relevant for people after the fare increase on December 1st when for many trips the 7 day ticket will become cheaper than the 10 Journey ticket purchased online. That isn't the case right now.

    Hence the marketing has been fairly quiet after it was launched, as it was with the other operators. With each operator they have gone for a "soft" launch before ramping the marketing up.

    As I say, I'd expect that across all operators LEAP will be marketed far more heavily once the cash fare increases kick in and the differential with LEAP becomes more apparent.


  • #534
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    lxflyer wrote: »
    I was responding to the post asking when LEAP would be introduced on the 109.

    LEAP on Bus Eireann is only really going to start to become relevant for people after the fare increase on December 1st when for many trips the 7 day ticket will become cheaper than the 10 Journey ticket purchased online. That isn't the case right now.

    Hence the marketing has been fairly quiet after it was launched, as it was with the other operators. With each operator they have gone for a "soft" launch before ramping the marketing up.

    As I say, I'd expect that across all operators LEAP will be marketed far more heavily once the cash fare increases kick in and the differential with LEAP becomes more apparent.

    Well they would want to get the finger out ASAP . I genuinely had no idea it was now available . I asked 4 people I know use the 109 and 3 had no idea, granted a straw pole but me included that's 80%of users .

    I have seen no flyers on the buses or posters in bus areas , and this service is what 6 weeks old. ? I could be wrong but there's no indication the private coaches that run the express services are leap ready ? There's certainly no leap stickers on the ticket machines, and this 1st dec milestone is less than a week off ????

    The same "soft approach " BE had taken to its most popular r109 services, i.e don't tell people about them.


  • #535
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    You asked me this before and I told you that it was available.

    LEAP is a phased rollout by the NTA that is being done on a soft basis, rather than having a Big Bang. It was announced on the Bus Eireann website and posted here too.

    Believe me - people will get to hear about it fairly quickly, once it becomes a cheaper option. At the moment it isn't for 10 journey users.

    In the meantime here is the page on the leapcard site:
    https://www.leapcard.ie/en/_uploads/Using%20a%20Leap%20Card%20on%20Bus%20Eireann%20V2.pdf


  • #536
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    lxflyer wrote: »
    You asked me this before and I told you that it was available.

    LEAP is a phased rollout by the NTA that is being done on a soft basis, rather than having a Big Bang. It was announced on the Bus Eireann website and posted here too.

    Believe me - people will get to hear about it fairly quickly, once it becomes a cheaper option. At the moment it isn't for 10 journey users.

    In the meantime here is the page on the leapcard site:
    https://www.leapcard.ie/en/_uploads/Using%20a%20Leap%20Card%20on%20Bus%20Eireann%20V2.pdf


    Big Bang and Bus Eireann - god forbid

    People dont visit the likes of BE/ leap website randomly - you need to be directed. Golden rule of marketing

    I could be way of the mark, and I'll seek verification on this, but I dont think some/all of the private coaches been used are leap ready. Maybe thats why its not been pushed, even though the service has been "launched"


  • #537
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Commuter109 wrote: »
    Big Bang and Bus Eireann - god forbid

    People dont visit the likes of BE/ leap website randomly - you need to be directed. Golden rule of marketing

    I could be way of the mark, and I'll seek verification on this, but I dont think some/all of the private coaches been used are leap ready. Maybe thats why its not been pushed, even though the service has been "launched"

    It is the NTA who are managing the LEAP rollout - not Bus Eireann.

    They (quite rightly) have deliberately taken a soft approach to the rollout to avoid major delays on buses if problems arise.

    The rollout on Dublin Bus, Irish Rail and LUAS has been done slowly, with little marketing initially, and is slowly being ramped up. I don't see the point of doing any different on Bus Eireann.

    Once the buses have the newer ticket machines, they are can facilitate LEAP.

    As I pointed out above, until the next fare increase happens, the only people that LEAP really facilitated were occasional users - for the single fare. Now that the fares are being increased, LEAP will begin to become more relevant for some people, but not all. For some journeys, the 10 Journey ticket will remain cheaper.


  • #538
    Azza89
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Azza89


    The thing about the leap card is that is actually wont work out cheaper than buying a ticket online if you only use the leap card for the commute during the week.

    Because BE give you 10% of the cost of an online ticket as points and you can use these points against a free ticket when you build up your points.

    Unless you are going to be using you 7 day ticket at the weekend as well it wont be cost efficient.


  • #539
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    Azza89 wrote: »
    The thing about the leap card is that is actually wont work out cheaper than buying a ticket online if you only use the leap card for the commute during the week.

    Because BE give you 10% of the cost of an online ticket as points and you can use these points against a free ticket when you build up your points.

    Unless you are going to be using you 7 day ticket at the weekend as well it wont be cost efficient.

    Whoops!, good post on BE facebook from a guy who reckons he has had almost 6 weeks free travel on BE (a company on the verge of going to the wall) as none of the drivers have a clue how to use LEAP, probabaly as a result of no training??

    Assumedly as it has been "rolled out" I am free to produce my LEAP card on any 109 service (private bus or otherwise), and I cant be stopped from boarding the service, because it doesnt have the leap card reader, or driver cant work it etc?


  • #540
    Furp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Furp


    I hadn't realized they had started to take leap as i have only seen the reader on a couple of the buses, must try it now.

    Also I am disappointed that there does not appear to be any advantage with Leap for Bus Eireann the price is the same for those like me that are lucky enough to only require the bus 3 days a week, plus it does not contribute to the cap in Dublin.


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  • #541
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Furp wrote: »
    I hadn't realized they had started to take leap as i have only seen the reader on a couple of the buses, must try it now.

    Also I am disappointed that there does not appear to be any advantage with Leap for Bus Eireann the price is the same for those like me that are lucky enough to only require the bus 3 days a week, plus it does not contribute to the cap in Dublin.

    Given the cash and online fares change this weekend - that may change.


  • #542
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    6.30 express full and gone and people refused at 6.26. Lovely big new double decker beside us with less than 20 people on it going to kells.

    Seriously ??? and I don't care if NTA are reading this , only conclusion I can come to is that between BE and /or NTA , they haven't got things sorted re whatever bull**** paper work has to be completed before a BE bus goes through DPT , so will only run a private bus with no BE logo on it through DPT at 6.30 or b)

    And this is equally probable , - they honestly couldn't give a sh.t


  • #543
    Furp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Furp


    Sitting on the 6.30 this evening 53 seater just gone 6.30 and 2 people had to get off because it's full.


  • #544
    Commuter109
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Commuter109


    Furp wrote: »
    Sitting on the 6.30 this evening 53 seater just gone 6.30 and 2 people had to get off because it's full.

    I asked one the guys in BE yesterday evening re the LEAP card, and he told me in nutshell, if you produce a LEAP card on any relevant non LEAP enabled bus, i.e. alot of the private buses that run the express services , you will be onboarded for free.

    If I was buying a 10 journey BE ticket and using the expresses, suffice to say I'd be buying a LEAP card for a fiver or whatever its costs next week.


  • #545
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Commuter109 wrote: »
    I asked one the guys in BE yesterday evening re the LEAP card, and he told me in nutshell, if you produce a LEAP card on any relevant non LEAP enabled bus, i.e. alot of the private buses that run the express services , you will be onboarded for free.

    If I was buying a 10 journey BE ticket and using the expresses, suffice to say I'd be buying a LEAP card for a fiver or whatever its costs next week.

    Just to recap.....12 years and c.€40 Million to bring the ITS/Leapcard project to the heights it currently occupies.


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  • #546
    Al_Coholic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Al_Coholic


    not sure if it has been mentioned here but Sillan Tours have a new 6.30pm service from Nassau Street which go through the port tunnel and first stop is in Dunshaughlin.


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  • #547
    gazzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭gazzer


    Al_Coholic wrote: »
    not sure if it has been mentioned here but Sillan Tours have a new 6.30pm service from Nassau Street which go through the port tunnel and first stop is in Dunshaughlin.

    Does it stop in Virginia or Cavan town do you know?


  • #548
    LXFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    Sillan Tours operate to Kingscourt and Shercock, not to Cavan.

    http://www.sillan.ie/index.php/bus-timetables


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    gazzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭gazzer


    lxflyer wrote: »
    Sillan Tours operate to Kingscourt and Shercock, not to Cavan.

    http://www.sillan.ie/index.php/bus-timetables

    Ah right. Thanks for that.


  • #550
    malene
    Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭malene


    Got the nitelinik @ 3.30a.m on Friday and was charged €13.50 from a private bus company, then on Saturday, it was back to 11.50 as per usual. Same driver, I said nothing, but next time be wary, it's only €11.50.


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    Geog1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭Geog1234


    Would suggest dropping Bus Éireann a line or e-mail about this.


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